From: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com (krnet-l-digest) To: krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V1 #26 Reply-To: krnet-l-digest Sender: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Errors-To: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Precedence: bulk krnet-l-digest Saturday, May 31 1997 Volume 01 : Number 026 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 31 May 97 09:26:09 PDT From: "Kobus de Wet" Subject: KR: Twins To my knowledge the second motor on a light twin is there to take you to the scene of the accident after the first failed. Kobus de Wet ZS-WPX From a Sunny South Africa But its getting cold here. jfdewet@intekom.co.za www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/lab/5101/kilodelta.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 00:36:00 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Twins At 09:26 AM 5/31/97 PDT, you wrote: >To my knowledge the second motor on a light twin is there to take you to >the scene of the accident after the first failed. > Oh come on twins are fun! :-) One misunderstanding is that the second engine is there for safety, trust me on light twins its there for performance! I think only transport type twins are certified for continued operation on one engine. Most twin trainers when fully loaded wont even maintain altitude on one engine! Bummer hu! Remember: Speed up Throttle up Clean up Identify Verify if critical phase of flight Feather if enroute, attempt to trouble shoot if feather check for feather check for fire check list! There is your first 20 seconds of multi ground school! _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 06:00:02 -0700 From: Donald Reid Subject: KR: VA State EAA Fly-in NO ARCHIVE June 28 and 29 will be the first Virginia State EAA Fly-in. It will be held at the Petersburg Airport, which is located about 20 miles south of Richmond. I won't be flying in (maybe next year), but if you see a REALLY tall guy with a handlebar mustache, say HI. - -- Don Reid donreid@erols.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 07:40:56 -0600 (MDT) From: Ron Lee Subject: KR: Insufficient Gravity Fuel Flow At 22:50 97/5/30 -0800, you wrote: >Marty > >I have a 1835 VW KR-2 with a turbo charger. While experimenting with >the intake system I starved the engine of fuel (due to shutting off the >electric fuel pump and discovering the gravity flow at full power >wasn't sufficient). The engine continued to windmill and started up >as soon as I switched the fuel pump back on. At the time the engine >quit I was passing through 155 mph and the speed was still increasing. >I estimate the engine restarted with in 5 seconds of quiting, almost >before I could get really concerned. Hope this is of some interest. > >Parley Byington > Could you elaborate on the fuel starvation problem. I am not sure that fuel pumps are standard on KRs so I am curious about this occurence. Ron Lee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 10:50:09 -0400 (EDT) From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster for sale In a message dated 97-05-31 03:09:07 EDT, you write: << Hello, folks I received this note, maybe someone is interested? Cheers Carlos http://www.axess.com/users/wings ---------- From: Joe Mount[SMTP:mount@reallink.com] Sent: May 28, 1997 22:51 To: wings@axess.com Subject: Revmaster For Sale Hi! I have a Revmaster engine for sale. I request that you add a link to your site for those interested in saving money on an engine with no flight hours. The site is at "www.reallink.com/mount/". I am interested in (selling) this engine in the next couple months. Thank you, Joe Mount >> I took a look at this guy's site, and sent him an email asking for a little more info. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, but you can buy the same configuration new from the factory, with updated electronic ignition, for $7,075 (his figures show the engine to be worth $8000). His asking price is $5000, so essentially you get the starter and turbo for "free" as compared to what a new non-turbo configuration costs ($5185). Just my 2 cents worth for my friends..... Cheers! Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 10:30:05 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster for sale At 10:50 AM 5/31/97 -0400, you wrote: >I took a look at this guy's site, and sent him an email asking for a little >more info. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, but you can buy the same configuration new from the factory, with updated electronic ignition, for $7,075 (his figures show the engine to be worth $8000). Yea I was thinking it wasn't the deal of the century but if your in the market for a turbo VW it may not be a bad option. His web site says For Sale half Price, but it by no means is it half price! Also, I found most of the web site to look a lot like mine, well same text and such. Interesting! :-) By the way I have seen unrun Revmasters go for $3000 or so! I could have picked up a 2100D (non- turbo) that had 100 hrs on it for $2000 a few weeks ago at Chino. If I wanted to spend $6000+ I would seriously be looking at a Jabaru or Rotax 91 not a un-run used Revmaster from an unknown source. _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 13:59:13 -0400 (EDT) From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster for sale In a message dated 97-05-31 10:53:41 EDT, you write: << I took a look at this guy's site, and sent him an email asking for a little more info. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, but you can buy the same configuration new from the factory, with updated electronic ignition, for $7,075 (his figures show the engine to be worth $8000). His asking price is $5000, so essentially you get the starter and turbo for "free" as compared to what a new non-turbo configuration costs ($5185). Just my 2 cents worth for my friends..... Cheers! Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com >> Ummmm..... what I meant to say is that this engine appears to be a Revmaster 2100DT, the 80hp turbo charged version. This is the same engine as in Ron Lee's (formerly Roy Marsh's) KR-2S variant. From what's on the web site, I couldn't tell how old the engine is, whether or not it has been pickled, and what type ignition it has (dual mags or quad CDI), although it appears to be the mag ignition. Depending on its condition, this looks like a fairly good deal for those folks looking for a turbo setup, about a 30% savings over the cost of a factory new engine. Cheers! Rick "no turbo for me" Junkin EagleGator@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 10:59:41 -0700 From: Mike Stearns Subject: KR: Still have O-200A package for sale I still have a Continental O-200A engine package for a KR-2S for sale. The engine has 2918 TT and 1098 SMOH. It includes mags, carburetor, alternator, starter, new plugs and wires and complete logs. Also included is a factory KR-2S engine mount, all mounting hardware, a 6" prop extension, Great American 60x68 prop (20 hrs.) and a new aluminum spinner complete with bulkhead and crush plate. I'll even throw in tachometer, oil temp and EGT guages. Complete price $5995 plus shipping. Mike Stearns 714-996-7349 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 13:23:41 -0500 From: Paul Eberhardt Subject: Re: KR: Water Cooled VW Catalog Autotech used to make a bolt on supercharger kit for the rabbit engine. Last I heard they had discontinued it, but they may still be available. Neuspeed, Techtonics, and Eurosport are also good names in Water Cooled VW. Micheal Mims wrote: > > The company is: > > Autotech Sport Tuning > 32240-e Paseo Adelnto > San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675-0450 > 800-553-1055 > > Also, for you magneto guys, the vertex magneto will fit this engine. > > _______________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Just Plane Nutts > mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com > > http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 13:25:52 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Diehl wing skins Michael Mims wrote: >Has Dan decided to make skins for the > KR2S? Any idea how much he wants for them? If I'm not mistaken, his skins have always been KR2S skins. That's why we have KR2S wings, They were adopted into the KR2S plans because they worked well and everybody was buying them. The spar dimension changes listed in the S plans are directly from Dan's skins. Last I heard they were $1500, but I also heard he would discontinue them when Jeannette's became available to prevent competing with her, but don't quote me on that. Maybe you should get'em while they're hot. Mark Langford langford@hiwaay.net http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 13:51:56 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: RAF48 airfoil data Somebody asked recently about RAF48 data. I've forgotten if I responded to that, but I've updated the RAF48 info on my website to include a "higher resolution" set of RAF48 coordinates, using 72 coordinates and 5 significant digits, for the truly anally retentive among us. They're at http://fly.hiwaay.net/`langford/kraf48.html. I believe that I have all available technical data on the RAF48 posted here, but you're welcome to correct me if I'm wrong. Send me more. I need more data... Mark Langford langford@hiwaay.net http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 13:48:32 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: KROnline resurrection KRNetHeads, I haven't stirred anything up lately, so I offer this: I asked Mike Mims about an article I wrote for the February KROnline Newsletter the other day, and he said if I'd send him to it'd be the first article he'd received. Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this ain't working. I seems we have two alternatives: 1) Give it up. We're already 5 months behind. Do we seriously think we'll ever do anymore? And since we're already 5 months behind, why not 6? or 10? We've lost the sense of urgency that screams "deadline in 3 days", or something similar. 2) Try doing it another way. When we first kicked this concept around, I proposed publishing it on a rotating basis, where somebody different does it each month. The results would be varied, but the workload would not be concentrated on one person. The resulting Newsletters could be posted on different sites all over the web (although I wouldn't mind putting some or all of them on my site, if needed). A sort of true Internet newsletter. This way, friendly rivalry would keep the quality high ("I'll blow 'em away when I do mine"), and the workload would be split among as many participants as we can coerce into helping out. It's just too much to ask one man to spend his time (and it takes a lot!) to put out a quality newsletter month after month. This way, we get our deadline back, and hopefully a new sense of urgency in getting it all together for the next issue. I'd be willing to do it for the next month, if it won't hurt Mike and Ross's feelings too much. But before I go to the trouble, maybe we should get some other volunteers to do some of the coming months. Any takers? I'll do one for sure. Shall we start a list? Personally, I think we ought to keep doing an Online Newsletter, somehow. It's really nice to have a compiliation of some of our best ideas. And I look forward to seeing what gems the next issue holds. I also think that no matter how we do it (keep it the way it is, or revolve the Editorship), we ought to forget Feb-Jun, and Start with the July issue. At least that way we have our deadline back. Again, any volunteers? Or comments. I'll be Randy wouldn't mind administering the process... Mark Langford langford@hiwaay.net http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 13:54:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: KROnline resurrection (no archive) At 13:48 97/5/31 -0500, you wrote: >KRNetHeads, > >I haven't stirred anything up lately, so I offer this: > >I asked Mike Mims about an article I wrote for the February KROnline >Newsletter the other day, and he said if I'd send him to it'd be the first >article he'd received. Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure >out that this ain't working. I seems we have two alternatives: As i mentioned privately to someone earlier.....why stick to a monthly schedule if there is not enough data. Bi-monthly or quarterly is fine. Ron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:00:47 -0400 (EDT) From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: KR: New Test Plan web page I put down my slide rule long enough to pull myself a little further into the current century and created a web page to distribute the updates to the now-famous (infamous?) test plan draft. I've had quite a few requests for updates, so here's the easiest way to get them. Just visit the newly created, highly incomplete, under major construction web page at http://members.aol.com/eaglegator Go to the "KR Test Plan" link (yup, multiple pages! Sorry, I impress easily), and all the updates will be posted there as I make them. I regret that the files are still in MS Word 7.0, I had to get back to my slide rule before I learned how to convert the file to HTML. By the way, I am still soliciting inputs! Normal Procedures and Emergency Procedures checklists (in ANY file format) would be very helpful so that I don't have to create them from scratch. Please send anything else that folks have that might be helpful to everyone. This is a gourp effort, just like KROnline, and will be made better by your contributions. Also, your questions are very valuable in making this a good plan, especially the "stupid" ones... Someone else has the same question and is too timid to ask, and they will benefit from the answer. Just send me a private email and I promise I won't tell anyone who asked what. If you don't believe me, just ask... oh, wait, that won't work..... ;-}} Now where did I put that slide rule.... Cheers! Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 15:05:10 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Water Cooled VW Catalog At 01:23 PM 5/31/97 -0500, you wrote: >Autotech used to make a bolt on supercharger kit for the rabbit engine. >Last I heard they had discontinued it, but they may still be available. > >Neuspeed, Techtonics, and Eurosport are also good names in Water Cooled >VW. > For those of you who were considering some type of muffler system, I just go the Supertrapp automotive catalog in the mail today! THeu have some fine looking units that could be used in sport aircraft. Some weigh as little as 1 pound! Model #344 is the one most of us would probably end up using. I got this catalog by send an email to: SuperTrapp Industries and asking for the off-road / automotive catalog, if we could get more of these units on more aircraft maybe the skies would be a quieter place to live! :-) West Coast sales 209.745.0454 Others 216.265.8400 Europe 317.132.61709 _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 15:13:58 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: KROnline resurrection At 01:48 PM 5/31/97 -0500, you wrote: >KRNetHeads, >Personally, I think we ought to keep doing an Online Newsletter, somehow. It's really nice to have a compilations of some of our best ideas. And I look forward to seeing what gems the next issue holds. I am all for a resurrection too, I can finish the article on how I made my canopy from a KR2 bubble. Why don't we just number these things and give up on the monthly label? (vol 2 issue 6) for example. I wanted to get the last issue out but lack of input and the thought of finishing my article and making up a few more was a little overwhelming not to mention I have an airplane to build, oh yea and a beautiful wife too! _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:33:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Dennis Ambrose Subject: Re: KR: Wood Props and Wing Tanks At 08:43 AM 5/31/97, you wrote: >David and Ross talk about carrying 28 gal and 60 gal of gas. > WOW! puts it lightly. >Consider empty weight of 500lbs, pilot and passenger of 300lbs; this is a zero fuel weight of 800 lbs. Gross +10% is 990 lbs; this leaves a total of 190lbs or 32gal for gas. >32gal @ a fuel consumption of 6gph = a touch over 5hrs in a KR2 >2 to 3 hrs in a KR2, I think is pushing it or am I missing something here > >Steve in SA If I'm not mistaken, Ken designed the KR2 to be an 800lb. gross plane, and if you fudge the numbers by 10% then you end up at 880lbs. or roughly the 900lbs. that is often quoted as the max. weight. Maybe one of you could explain to me how ANYONE could fly a KR2 with 2 adult males and stay legal? Most planes are comming in at closer to 600lbs. and with 400lbs. of people and 100lbs. of fuel we weigh in at 1100lbs. or 200lbs. over. Is the 900lbs. just an arbitrary number or is the max. gross limited by something other than the structure of the plane? The KR2 has LOTS of wing area for a plane in this weight class, so is it power or what? Your comments, please? Dennis ;=# *****Wondering how to get anything other than me, a child and 5 gallons airborne******* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:49:17 -0400 (EDT) From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: KROnline resurrection In a message dated 97-05-31 18:23:40 EDT, you write: << not to mention I have an airplane to build, oh yea and a beautiful wife too! _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com >> .... T-ball with my son, homework, Girls Scouts, and piano lessons with my daughters, "honey do's" around the house, that pesky day job..... oh, yeah, we're building airplanes, aren't we? Busy folks are we.... No, I didn't forget about my wife, we're on our way out the door to a Wynonna Judd concert right now.... another night's work lost!!!! (Don't tell her I said that!!!!) Cheers! Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 19:15:33 -0400 (EDT) From: BSHADR@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: KROnline resurrection In a message dated 97-05-31 15:11:04 EDT, you write: << Again, any volunteers? Or comments. I'll bet Randy wouldn't mind administering the process... >> Hey, I've done such a fine job so far... :-) I could continue in this capacity of helping to not get it out on time LOL Seriously, I'll help as I can, but family and work loads keep me from producing it all by myself. I'm on a business trip, leaving Sunday AM, so I'll be interested to hear how many volunteers step up when I pick up my Emails next Thursday. Remember, we are talking big buck$ of income as monthly editor as the bonus! (LOL again) I still favor the MSWord format as a starting point - It is easy to pull out info and store it in my system without printing the whole dang issue. After it is ready to go to press, we can have Mike or Ross convert it to Adobe and Mark can do the html thing. That way we can have it all. We do need contributions though. Is it whine season already? Got cheese? Randy Stein BSHADR@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 17:20:26 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: Wing Tanks & Fuel Octane Availability steveb@aviation.denel.co.za wrote: > > David and Ross talk about carrying 28 gal and 60 gal of gas. > WOW! puts it lightly. > Consider empty weight of 500lbs, pilot and passenger of 300lbs; this is a zero fuel weight of 800 lbs. Gross +10% is 990 lbs; this leaves a total of 190lbs or > 32gal @ a fuel consumption of 6gph = a touch over 5hrs in a KR2 > 2 to 3 hrs in a KR2, I think is pushing it or am I missing something here Nope. I think if you check the digests you will find I was suprised that I got 11.5 gal in each wing, this is about 30% more than I was thinking I would get. And that is doing it per plans. Consider what it would be like if you grabbed another bay. On the other hand, assuming you can handle the fuel load, you could fill up with mogas at home base, and fly without worrying about having mogas at the destination. I'm thinking hard about tuning my engine for 100LL, as it seems to be available just about everywhere. Anyone comment on what fuel grades they are running with? -- Regards - -- Ross Youngblood KRNET-L administrator mailto:rossy@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/N541RY.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:27:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: Wing Tanks & Fuel Octane Availability At 17:20 97/5/31 -0700, you wrote: Snipped stuff > Anyone comment on what fuel grades they are running with? > >Ross Youngblood Roy Marsh was insistent that ONLY 100LL due to additives in autogas. However, that may also be a function of the epoxy he used. Me thinks others have put fiberglass pieces in various fuels (maybe even autogas) with no observed problems. So the key may be a good epoxy when building the fuel tanks(s) so you have the option to use autogas if needed. Ron Lee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 17:41:09 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: KROnline resurrection Mark Langford wrote: > > KRNetHeads, > > I haven't stirred anything up lately, so I offer this: > > I asked Mike Mims about an article I wrote for the February KROnline > Newsletter the other day, and he said if I'd send him to it'd be the first > article he'd received. Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure > out that this ain't working. I seems we have two alternatives:[snip] . . . I think you're correct. I was considering that when I drilled the holes for my spinner, that I haven't taken many pictures of my project lately. How can I do an article if I haven't taken pictures? I don't think I've sent in any articles either. Don't wory about stepping on my toes, I just stubbed them recently myself. If I ever get another article together, I will send it to the current caretaker of the free Newsletter. Ross Youngblood KRNET-L administrator mailto:rossy@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/N541RY.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 17:46:10 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: KROnline resurrection Micheal Mims wrote: > > At 01:48 PM 5/31/97 -0500, you wrote: > >KRNetHeads, > >Personally, I think we ought to keep doing an Online Newsletter, somehow. > It's really nice to have a compilations of some of our best ideas. And I > look forward to seeing what gems the next issue holds. > > I am all for a resurrection too, I can finish the article on how I made my > canopy from a KR2 bubble. > > Why don't we just number these things and give up on the monthly label? (vol > 2 issue 6) for example. > > I wanted to get the last issue out but lack of input and the thought of > finishing my article and making up a few more was a little overwhelming not > to mention I have an airplane to build, oh yea and a beautiful wife too! > > _______________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Just Plane Nutts > mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com > > http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand I agree we need to drop the monthly label too. Lets not carry around that "late" baggage. It's a free newsletter, why force it! - -- Ross Youngblood KRNET-L administrator mailto:rossy@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/N541RY.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 17:50:52 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: KROnline resurrection BSHADR@aol.com wrote: > After it is ready to go to press, we > can have Mike or Ross convert it to Adobe and Mark can do the html > thing. As much as I like Adobe, I'm not shelling out $200-300 for the Adobe authoring software, thats a good chunk of my avionics budget. I will however, do the next KRONLINE issue if folks will submit some articles to me. You can send them via email or snailmail Word format (6.0 or earlier) is preferred. I will do my part and come up with "somthing" nifty to put into the next issue. How about a deadline of 6/15? -- Regards Ross - -- Ross Youngblood KRNET-L administrator mailto:rossy@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/N541RY.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 17:57:09 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: Headsets? Say, whats the conventional wisdom on the best headset value? My FBO rents the plane with a headset, and every now and then I get one with a flaky mike which picks up static. I'm thinking it's time to buy one and start breaking it in. The FBO is selling the David Clark 20-10 at a below list price which is probably very close to their cost. This is cool but really close to $300. I've flown with the David Clark 10-30, and I'm not convinced that these headsets are worth the premium prices. Soo... can anyone comment on the durability and comfort of their favorite headset, and also any really bad ones to avoid? -- Regards Ross - -- Ross Youngblood KRNET-L administrator mailto:rossy@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/N541RY.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 21:21:00 EDT From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E. Scott) Subject: Re: KR: Looking to buy a KR-2 (no archive) I also posted some info and pictures about a partially built KR somewhere in Texas, maybe the Houston area. The guy that has the project e-mailed me recently to say that it was still for sale, but my reply back to him bounced. I don't have the info any more, but maybe there is something in the archives. - ---- Jeffrey Scott jscott.pilot@juno.com See construction of KR-2S N1213W at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford/kjeffs.html - ---- On Fri, 30 May 1997 11:52:14 -0600 (MDT) Ron Lee writes: >A few weeks ago I posted a message about three KRs for sale. I no >longer >have that posting. Trade a plane is a good source. I just got a new >copy >today and will post any NEW KRs. Mr Dye jusr posted something on one >in >Dallas (I think). Hopefully he will get back to you. > >Try this web site for archived postings (up to 18 May as of today). > >I just got my KR based upon a posting here as well. > >Ron Lee > > >At 10:57 97/5/30 -0700, you wrote: >>I am looking to buy a KR-2(s), and I was wondering where a good place >was to >>try and locate some. I am located in TX, so I would prefer to find >one >>here, but I am currently considering one in Wisconsin, so I guess >location >>isn't to big a consideration. I would like as large a selection to >pick >>from as possible. If anyone has any ideas where to start, please let >me know. >> >> Johnny >> >>Johnny Galindo >>Wk (512)339-5394 >>Pager >>---------------------------- >>1167029@SkyMail.com - or - >>(800)PAGE-MCI Pin - 1167029 >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 20:41:00 -0500 From: Paul Eberhardt Subject: KR: Radios? I am of the opinion that a handheld radio is sufficient for a kr. I am also a student pilot and my opinion on this is suspect. I-com makes an interesting one with a removable battery pack, ptt input, headset jacks, VOR display, etc. I think one could be mounted to the panel somehow with external power, ptt, and antenna inputs. This would give you a battery backup and a handheld to take in other planes. It is also lighter and cheaper than having both HH and panel mount. My only experience at a controlled airport was solo in a rental c-152 and my radio quit when I landed. Any insight from a real pilot? Am I all wet? thanks -- Paul Eberhardt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:50:36 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Wing Tanks & Fuel Octane Availability At 05:20 PM 5/31/97 -0700, you wrote: > Anyone comment on what fuel grades they are running with? > > -- Regards > >-- Brad first thought it would be cool to run on mogas but soon found it is almost impossible to get at airports in the southwest, not to mention all of it (mogas) around here is oxygenated! Blahhh.......... Super grade autofuel is very close to $2.00 a gallon in these parts so there really isn't a price savings to be had either. I am planning 100ll not matter which engine I go with. _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 18:54:15 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: KROnline resurrection At 05:50 PM 5/31/97 -0700, you wrote: >BSHADR@aol.com wrote: >> After it is ready to go to press, we >> can have Mike or Ross convert it to Adobe and Mark can do the html >> thing. > > As much as I like Adobe, I'm not shelling out $200-300 for the >Adobe authoring software, thats a good chunk of my avionics budget. > Im the Adobe freak! :-) I have the Distiller and Adobe Exchange for creating Adobe files and as always I will make any file into Adobe Acrobat for those interested. _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 19:00:07 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Headsets? At 05:57 PM 5/31/97 -0700, you wrote: I've flown with the David Clark 10-30, and I'm not >convinced that these headsets are worth the premium prices. > I have two DC 10-40 headsets and will admit the ONLY two advantages are the mics are of excellent quality and the repair with no questions ask service I have got from DC. If you have a DC headset that is broken or not working to your satisfaction try sending it back to the factory and there is a good chance they will fix it for free! Both my headsets have gel ear seals and head band pads and I find them comfortable and quiet. But in there stock form the DC headsets are like putting your head in a vice! _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 19:04:30 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Radios? At 08:41 PM 5/31/97 -0500, you wrote: >I am of the opinion that a handheld radio is sufficient for a kr. I am >also a student pilot and my opinion on this is suspect. > >I think one could be mounted to the panel somehow with external power, ptt, and antenna inputs. This would give you a battery backup and............ This is my idea exactly, if I didn't live where I do I wouldn't have a radio at all! You may want to consider getting a handheld without the VOR, it could save you a little money. Besides your gona have a GPS anyway right! :-) _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 21:25:56 -0500 From: Paul Eberhardt Subject: Re: KR: Radios? Micheal Mims wrote: > > At 08:41 PM 5/31/97 -0500, you wrote: > >I am of the opinion that a handheld radio is sufficient for a kr. I am > >also a student pilot and my opinion on this is suspect. > > > >I think one could be mounted to the panel somehow with external power, > ptt, and antenna inputs. This would give you a battery backup and............ > > This is my idea exactly, if I didn't live where I do I wouldn't have a radio > at all! You may want to consider getting a handheld without the VOR, it > could save you a little money. Besides your gona have a GPS anyway right! :-) Right!! And I believe that VOR's days are numbered. The way the price of a handheld gps is going, you can have 2 if you're worried about reliability (I'm not) and still be ahead. Has anyone done a serious comparison of hh gps's? I hesitate to buy one quite yet because I think the companies aren't done trying to out-feature each other yet. I'll probably break down when I get a real job and start flying a lot. (I get my BSME degree this summer, so soon I'll be rollin' in it!) Paul Eberhardt > _______________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Just Plane Nutts > mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com > > http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:33:28 -0400 From: Patrick Flowers Subject: Re: KR: Headsets? Ross Youngblood wrote: > > Say, whats the conventional wisdom on the best headset value? > A friend of mine is a Citation(yeah, I know, Slowtation, Slugtation...) pilot for Nationsbank. His opinion is the Flightcom 4DX is the best deal if bottom dollar is your criteria. He has four of them in his 182. I picked up one for my wife and I gotta agree. Sure, a DC might be a little more comfortable, but it does the job for only $80(Gulf Coast Avionics). Not bad for us weekend pilots. Matte black color doesn't look as tacky as my blue Sigtronics and was about half the price. Patrick - -- Patrick Flowers Mailto:patri63@ibm.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:41:58 -0400 From: Patrick Flowers Subject: Re: KR: Radios? Paul Eberhardt wrote: > > I am of the opinion that a handheld radio is sufficient for a kr. I am > also a student pilot and my opinion on this is suspect. > > I-com makes an interesting one with a removable battery pack, ptt input, > headset jacks, VOR display, etc. Pass on the VOR. NAV signals are polarized horizontally, while COM signals are vertically polarized. That's why NAV/COM's use two antennas. You'll never get decent reception even with an external antenna(a must for decent COM reception). Use the money you save buying just the COM on a handheld GPS. > I think one could be mounted to the panel somehow with external power, > ptt, and antenna inputs. This would give you a battery backup and a > handheld to take in other planes. It is also lighter and cheaper than > having both HH and panel mount. Definitely get the headset adapter. Use an external antenna(on a KR, hide copper tape in the vertical stab per RST) and external power. You could mount it with velcro easy enough. Patrick - -- Patrick Flowers Mailto:patri63@ibm.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:52:55 -0400 From: Patrick Flowers Subject: KR: Netscape Tricks (no archive) Several users on ibm.net were complaining about spam email and how to block it. As a halfway fix, the support gurus told us about a little known feature of netscape mail, the "sort.dat" file(press [delete] now if you already know this one). You place a text file in the netscape/mail subdirectory(folder for you win95 types) named "sort.dat" with criteria for sorting your mail into folders. You can instruct it to put known spammers in the Trash folder. You still download them, but you don't have to delete them. Right away I saw the application for recipients of mail lists. The following is my sort.dat: Folder Header String Trash From @savetrees.com Trash From @cyberpromo.com Trash From @earthlink.net Trash Subject $$$ KRNet Reply-To krnet Bearhawk Reply-To bearhawk Avweb From AVflash Aeronca To aeronca VWaero To vw Just create the folders in netscape mail and set up your sort criteria. I've been using it for two days and it works like a charm. If you need any help email me directly(not through KRnet. No need to tie up the mail list). Patrick - -- Patrick Flowers Mailto:patri63@ibm.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 23:00:49 -0400 From: Patrick Flowers Subject: Re: KR: Radios? Paul Eberhardt wrote: > > Has anyone done a serious comparison of hh gps's? I hesitate to buy one > quite yet because I think the companies aren't done trying to > out-feature each other yet. I'll probably break down when I get a real > job and start flying a lot. (I get my BSME degree this summer, so soon > I'll be rollin' in it!) Buying a GPS is almost as bad as buying a computer. Features and models seem to change daily. AVweb has a review of several models and a guy name Gary Craze works for HP has a review of most models on his web page. I'll see if I can find the URL and post it. Patrick - -- Patrick Flowers Mailto:patri63@ibm.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:07:44 -0500 From: Paul Eberhardt Subject: Re: KR: Radios? Patrick Flowers wrote: > > Paul Eberhardt wrote: > > > > I am of the opinion that a handheld radio is sufficient for a kr. I am > > also a student pilot and my opinion on this is suspect. > > > > I-com makes an interesting one with a removable battery pack, ptt input, > > headset jacks, VOR display, etc. > > Pass on the VOR. NAV signals are polarized horizontally, while COM > signals are vertically polarized. That's why NAV/COM's use two > antennas. You'll never get decent reception even with an external > antenna(a must for decent COM reception). Use the money you save buying > just the COM on a handheld GPS. Well, that's two "nay" votes on the VOR. Good enough for me. Thanks for all the GOOD info. I think I'll get me a hand held com right away. The biggest problem I'm having with getting my cross country time up here at my podunk field is finding a plane with both a current annual and working radios. Thanks again -- Paul Eberhardt > > > I think one could be mounted to the panel somehow with external power, > > ptt, and antenna inputs. This would give you a battery backup and a > > handheld to take in other planes. It is also lighter and cheaper than > > having both HH and panel mount. > > Definitely get the headset adapter. Use an external antenna(on a KR, > hide copper tape in the vertical stab per RST) and external power. You > could mount it with velcro easy enough. > > Patrick > -- > Patrick Flowers Mailto:patri63@ibm.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 21:17:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: KROnline resurrection (no archive) >Im the Adobe freak! :-) I have the Distiller and Adobe Exchange for >creating Adobe files and as always I will make any file into Adobe Acrobat >for those interested. > >_______________________ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims It seems that Adobe files are mucho smaller than Word. If so, and printing and reading them is basically the same, I would prefer the Adobe. I have the FREE viewer which I believe does print. Ron Lee ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V1 #26 ****************************