From: Majordomo@teleport.com[SMTP:Majordomo@teleport.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 1997 7:42 AM To: john bouyea Subject: Majordomo file: list 'krnet-l' file 'v01.n146' -- From: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com (krnet-l-digest) To: krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V1 #146 Reply-To: krnet-l-digest Sender: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Errors-To: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Precedence: bulk krnet-l-digest Saturday, October 25 1997 Volume 01 : Number 146 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:27:16 -0500 (CDT) From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR: No archive - Sky Pup? At 10:03 AM 10/25/97 -0500, you wrote: >Netters, > >Need help locating a set of construction drawings for the Sky Pup ultralight >(I've acquired the kit and a construction manual, dated 1983). Airplane was >offered by Sport Aviation Engineering, Inc., Grand Junction, CO. Sure would >appreciate any help - perhaps someone who knows who built one. Any info >appreciated. E-mail me direct, so I don't take up more KR space. Thanks much! > >Ed Janssen >ejanssen@chipsnet.com > > > Ed, there is one located in Flora, Illinois, not too far from Mt.Vernon.(2 hour or so drive for you) I think that is what you are looking for. He has a little 2 banger on it and has several hundred hours of time flown. E-mail me direct for more info. Larry Flesner larryfle@midwest.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:27:05 -0500 (CDT) From: larry flesner Subject: KR: Re: apology At 10:23 AM 10/25/97 -0400, you wrote: >My sincerest apologies to you for responding so negatively to your post. > >Alan Moat >flowery branch >taom@randomc.com > Apology accepted... let's get on with building............... I'll try to be a bit more sensitive next time and qualify my remarks. Larry Flesner larryfle@midwest.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:45:18 -0500 (CDT) From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR: fuel cap At 04:39 PM 10/24/97 -0400, you wrote: >I've heard many of you extoll the virtues of the homemade fuel cap, > >1. exactly what/where is it you are buying with this cap? >2. How do you get it to be flush mounted? > >Bob Smith (too busy flying, building, working, doing the honeydo list >and bussing kids around to comment on the crummy RR plans & manual) > > Check out the fuel cap in the 1997 Wick's catalog on page 334. It's the one at the bottom of the page , part no. fc100-001. For $4.93 (take it out of your beer money) it's hardly worth building your own unless you're into those kind of things. It's a very good quality unit, installs easily, can be flush mounted, works well, etc. I used them for my wing tanks and I'm very happy with the way they turned out. Larry Flesner larryfle@midwest.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:26:47 -0500 From: rmccall Subject: Re: KR: full page scanner Sounds good! can you send me info? I'm looking for a scanner! Rich McCall 1518 Holly Lane Junction City, KS 66441 John F. Esch wrote: > Ross > > I received my 32-bit full page color scanner this last Friday. Still > playing with to see what it can do but I am having problems figuring out > how to say the pictures to files so at a later time I can send them via > Internet. I will just keep playing and of course read the instructions. > > Oh, I bought it for $162.00 but won't tell you where from...well maybe. > > John F. Esch > Salem, OR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:03:33 -0500 From: rmccall Subject: Re: KR: KR2 for sale WHAT IS R A H ? I'm interested!!! Rich McCall 1518 Holly Lane Junction City, KS 66441 Patrick Flowers wrote: > This popped up on r.a.h this morning: > > > For Sale KR2 N76KB 175 Hours TT. Hapi 1835 Slick Mag. Elt, some instru. > > Deihl gear conversion. Needs work, wing and canopy damage. Built in 1978. > > $3000 OBO contact: Harold Shoemaker via E-Mail or 319-396-3651. > > -- > Patrick Flowers > Mailto:patri63@ibm.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:03:32 -0600 From: Ron Lee Subject: KR: R.A.H It is an internet newsgroup: rec.aviation.homebuilt Ron "Internet Geek Man" Lee At 02:03 PM 10/25/97 -0500, you wrote: >WHAT IS R A H ? I'm interested!!! > >Rich McCall >1518 Holly Lane >Junction City, KS 66441 > >Patrick Flowers wrote: > >> This popped up on r.a.h this morning: >> >> > For Sale KR2 N76KB 175 Hours TT. Hapi 1835 Slick Mag. Elt, some instru. >> > Deihl gear conversion. Needs work, wing and canopy damage. Built in 1978. >> > $3000 OBO contact: Harold Shoemaker via E-Mail or 319-396-3651. >> >> -- >> Patrick Flowers >> Mailto:patri63@ibm.net > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:03:29 -0400 From: Robert Moreland Subject: Re: KR: High Cost of Spruce When shoping for douglas fir I discovered that the 1x4 pile was junk. The quality of the 1x3 (Actually 11/16 x 2-1/2) was much better. It took a few trips to several lumber stores (Home Depot) over a period of several months but I finally was able to get all of the lumber I needed for about $100. A trip th the local cabinet shop to have it all planed down to 5/8" and I was ready to start building. This part of my project "only" took a year. Robert Moreland ranland@worldnet.att.net Micheal Mims wrote: > > At 12:21 AM 10/23/97 -0700, Ross wrote: > >John Roffey wrote: > >> > >> By the way, the spruce has gone up a lot this summer, $839 for the 2S > >> kit. John Roffey > >> jeroffey@tir.com > >In 1988 (When I started my KR-2 project) I think retail was about $600 > >or so, I got a wood kit (Complete and still in the Wicks Crates) for > >$400. WOW! This was a good think as I was anxious to start and there > >was a 6-8month waiting list for spar stock I was told. UGH! > >-- Ross > > > > Can you say Doug FIR? Clear of course! > > Its looking better all the time! :o) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:41:17 -0500 From: rmccall Subject: Re: KR: The Vinyl Ester horse I'd like ot see the article. I plan on using the stuff. Rich McCall 1518 Holly Lane Junction City, KS 66441 Brian Bland wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:35:21 -0700, you wrote: > > >At 07:09 PM 10/20/97 -0400, TANDEM2@aol.com wrote: > >>is there a e-mail address or web site for that newsletter > >> > > > >http://www.fibreglast.com > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Micheal Mims > >Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > >http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims > > > If anyone wants to see the article on Vinyl Ester let me know via > private e-mail. > > Brian J. Bland, PP, A&P > Claremore, OK > Building stretched and widened KR-2S > > bbland@busprod.com > http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:47:12 -0500 From: rmccall Subject: Re: KR: full page scanner I'm looking for a scanner. That sounds good. Can you send me info John F. Esch wrote: > Ross > > I received my 32-bit full page color scanner this last Friday. Still > playing with to see what it can do but I am having problems figuring out > how to say the pictures to files so at a later time I can send them via > Internet. I will just keep playing and of course read the instructions. > > Oh, I bought it for $162.00 but won't tell you where from...well maybe. > > John F. Esch > Salem, OR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:38:52 -0700 From: Robert Maniss Subject: KR: Epoxy for KR2 Have started project ("boat" is upside down on work table) but I'm not completely satisfied with R/R epoxy. Would like something that could give greater penetration of the wood. Aeropoxy (AS&S) sounds good but I don't know. As long as I don't attempt to use one epoxy on top of another will I encounter problems? Suggestions, please!!! Thanks. Bob Maniss Abilene, TX ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:32:56 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Epoxy for KR2 At 02:38 PM 10/25/97 -0700, Robert Maniss wrote: >Have started project ("boat" is upside down on work table) but I'm not >completely satisfied with R/R epoxy. Would like something that could >give greater penetration of the wood. Aeropoxy (AS&S) sounds good but I >don't know. As long as I don't attempt to use one epoxy on top of >another will I encounter problems? Suggestions, please!!! Thanks. > >Bob Maniss Abilene, TX > Are you talking about gluing the wood? If so,... use T-88! If your talking about fiberglass work Aeropoxy is great but I like Safe-t-poxy (EZpoxy from AS&S) much better. Take the Rand Epoxy to your local hazardous waste deposal unit! :o) (it sucks) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:19:04 -0700 From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR: Epoxy for KR2 Robert Maniss wrote: > > Have started project ("boat" is upside down on work table) but I'm not > completely satisfied with R/R epoxy. Would like something that could > give greater penetration of the wood. Aeropoxy (AS&S) sounds good but I > don't know. As long as I don't attempt to use one epoxy on top of > another will I encounter problems? Suggestions, please!!! Thanks. > > Bob Maniss Abilene, TX I used T-88 on the wood, EZ Poxy on the glass (Safe-t-poxy at first), and Alphapoxy for making dry micro. No complaints and I will use them again. - -- Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:09:10 From: Austin Clark Subject: Re: KR: Re: Construction Manual At 09:07 10/25/97 -0500, you wrote: >>snip >> >>Go for it dude. What you and Mike have been doing with your own Web >>sites by sharing your building experiences has been a tremendious help >>to me with some of the gray areas in the manual that RR provides. But I >>also understand thier position because of liability problems. To many >>greedy lawyers in this world. >> >>Tim Schuy >>KR-2S builder in Japan >> >hi guys > just thought i would inject a little item that crossed my mind. > now days the liability cloud looms over everybody so i wonder if it might > not be worth considering calling them the kr diary's of how you did it > saying this worked for me, you are welcome to use my method if you like > and your results may or may not work as well as it did for me. > or something to that effect would not ruffle rr's feathers as much > and also free you from the liability cloud. > just a thought > bob adams > > > I agree with Bob and would be willing to contribute if we approached it with this type wording. Austin Clark KR2S / Subaru Pascaguola, MS ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:27:44 -0400 (EDT) From: JEHayward@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: High Cost of Spruce In a message dated 97-10-25 01:32:41 EDT, you write: << Keep in mind this aint the stuff the 2x4 studs are >made of. Ask to see the good stuff, usually in smaller cuts and knot free! >Some of the stuff here locally is not free a Make that KNOT free! :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims >> Looks like too many late nights....... Jim Hayward ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:58:39 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: page update Uploaded a few new pictures to the tail ,wing, and tank pages. Check them out if you like. The pictures on the tank page show the final process involved in the home made fuel cap. The tail page shows the new extended horizontal stab with the uni spar cap from tip to tip. The Wings page has pics of the funky wing roots. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:26:08 -0700 From: "John F. Esch" Subject: Re: KR: full page scanner It is a Adara Starlight I 32-bit full page color scanner. It came with the necessary software to edit and save the pictures. I was watching the Home Shopping Network and saw it and said I have to have it. I goto stop channel surfing so much. $152.00 + $10.00 shipping. John F. Esch Salem, OR rmccall wrote: > I'm looking for a scanner. That sounds good. Can you send me info > > John F. Esch wrote: > > > Ross > > > > I received my 32-bit full page color scanner this last Friday. > Still > > playing with to see what it can do but I am having problems figuring > out > > how to say the pictures to files so at a later time I can send them > via > > Internet. I will just keep playing and of course read the > instructions. > > > > Oh, I bought it for $162.00 but won't tell you where from...well > maybe. > > > > John F. Esch > > Salem, OR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:43:30 -0700 From: Ross Subject: KR: Unused Plans for sale This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------57B642061A266CF6BFA27F43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --------------57B642061A266CF6BFA27F43 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: owner-krnet-l@lists.teleport.com Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp2.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) id OAA07586; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: owner-krnet-l@teleport.com Message-Id: <199710242113.OAA07586@smtp2.teleport.com> To: owner-krnet-l@teleport.com Subject: BOUNCE krnet-l@lists.teleport.com: Non-member submission from ["Bordelon, Greg" ] >From krnet-l-owner Fri Oct 24 14:12:54 1997 Received: from pitbull.ep.hess.com (ns.ameradahess.com [207.51.255.129]) by smtp2.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07476 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oac02c.ep.hess.com ([192.168.8.9]) by pitbull.ep.hess.com via smtpd (for smtp2.teleport.com [192.108.254.20]) with SMTP; 24 Oct 1997 21:12:44 UT Received: by oac02c.ep.hess.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:12:18 -0500 Message-ID: <65D1FC658171D011806400805FC142EB93EC1F@oac01e.ep.hess.com> From: "Bordelon, Greg" To: "'krnet-l@teleport.com'" Subject: KR: For Sale (Plans & Engine) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:12:38 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <65D1FC658171D011806400805FC142EB93EC1F@oac01e.ep.hess.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCE097.9A08E910" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCE097.9A08E910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have two Items I'd like to offer to the group. 1. KR2S plans, they are new and unused KR2 plans with the KR2S supplemental drawings. 2. Continental 0200 gpu engine. Engine is crated and ready for shipment. I will accept a reasonable offer for each. I have recently gotten married and have little time to build and could use the money. Hopefully, these items could be of use to other members. My personal details are as follows: Greg Bordelon Houston Texas 281-480-0546 home 713-609-5356 work If you send email, please send to greg@brokersys.com NOT gbordelon@hess.com by replying to this message which is my employer's account. 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I think Don Reid had some good posts on the topic. I think the general consensis is that it is OK to use FIR as a substitute for Spruce. -- Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:08:37 -0700 From: Ross Subject: KR: Online Construction Manual Mark, I am setting up the disk on my PC to manage a website based online construction manual. As we speak... I have divided the problem into the following sections: Avionics Canopy Cockpit Control System Engine Flight Testing Fuel System Fuselage Gear&Brakes Getting Started Paperwork VFR Instrumentation Empenage These should do for now I think. At first I think I will just post links to others stuff, click on a section and see a list of resources from KRNET members on that topic. Later, we can post a group edited manual in .html or acroread format, one chapter per section... What do you think? If I'm lucky this page should be available online by the end of the weekend. - -- Ross Mark Langford wrote: > > Randy Stein wrote: > > > Rick, Mark, Jeff & Mike: Got your ears up? Not if your smart I 'spose. > How > > about you guys all doing a little part of it over the next year or so? > > Hey, remember when I tried to summons up a group effort to do an online > construction manual about two years ago? Nobody responded. Same with > redoing the most vital of past newsletters. That's why I've sort of given > up on group efforts from this bunch. But now there are a lot more of us, > and some new blood too. If I got some help, I'd gladly do it. We could > divide it up a bit, with somebody doing fuselage, somebody doing wings, ... > I think you could take some of our web pages and add some text and you'd > have it. And now we have lots of pictures of almost every detail of > construction on a web page somewhre. The pictures alone would put it head > and shoulders above the factory manual. The the whole thing could be > assembled on our newfound web site. I'm game. Let's divide it up and > conquer it! > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > email at langford@hiwaay.net > KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:18:43 -0700 From: Ross Subject: Re: KR: Wicks $5.00 fuel cap Larry, If these are the nifty industrial caps with the knurled flanges. I've got three of them, and Norm put them on his Firebird. He noted that the thickness of the flange was about 1" more than he needed so he cut the flanges down to save weight. With my foam tanks the thickness was just about right. I don't remember if mine were the $5.00 flavor, but I bought them from Wicks. -- Ross larry flesner wrote: > > At 04:39 PM 10/24/97 -0400, you wrote: > >I've heard many of you extoll the virtues of the homemade fuel cap, > > > >1. exactly what/where is it you are buying with this cap? > >2. How do you get it to be flush mounted? > > > >Bob Smith (too busy flying, building, working, doing the honeydo list > >and bussing kids around to comment on the crummy RR plans & manual) > > > > > > Check out the fuel cap in the 1997 Wick's catalog on page 334. > It's the one at the bottom of the page , part no. fc100-001. > For $4.93 (take it out of your beer money) it's hardly worth > building your own unless you're into those kind of things. > It's a very good quality unit, installs easily, can be flush > mounted, works well, etc. I used them for my wing tanks and > I'm very happy with the way they turned out. > > Larry Flesner > larryfle@midwest.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:21:43 -0700 From: Ross Subject: Re: KR: Retractable U/C hinge brackets Kobus, My apolgies... It took me a while to decode U/C into "landing gear" my brain kept coding U/C to R/C (radio control). So I thought that others who were up at 1:00AM might need the translation. It was late, and I apologize for the posting. -- Regards Ross Kobus de Wet wrote: > > Ross, > For reasons of simplicity in South Africa we use the term Under Carriage > (U/C) for both fixed and retractable, as very few commercial or military > aircraft today still have fixed U/C. You must bear in mind that we not only > have to put up with American Daftness, we also have French, English, > German, Italian and lately also Russian Terminology. As the first > commercial and military aircraft we came into contact with were British we > took on their terminology as the standard and stuck to it. The American > terminology is definitely in the minority as almost all the other countries > mentioned above use a system very close to the British system. Sorry about > all this but the original reason for the letter regarding the cracked hinge > bracket were for reasons of safety and to inform other KR-2 owners and > operators of a problem that I found on my aircraft. I do not recall asking > for a lecture on the aircraft terminology as used in the USA. > > Thanks Kobus > > Kobus, > I think this was one of the reasons that the Retract Gear has lost > ground to the fixed gear or Under Carrage (U/C for those who drive on > the left.) > > -- Ross > > Kobus de Wet wrote: > > > > The reason that ZS-WPX has not been airborne yet is because I found two > of > > the three U/C hinge brackets cracked. These are the brackets that > attaches > > to the U/C beam and rotates around the bolt in the bracket against the > > spar. > > Both these brackets are castings of very poor quality. There is no way > that > > I can determine if these brackets came from RR (USA) or from a local > > supplier that was dealing out of Lanseria Airport (Pretoria area) > > The bottom line is it does not matter where these come from, what does > > matter is that all builders and operators should have a good look at > their > > U/C hinges. > > The cracks runs through the outer two holes in the brackets. > > > > Its hell to get those bracket out of there. Making up a set out of 4130 > > > > Kobus (might be flying soon) de Wet > > > > South Africa > > -- > > Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE > PIN#895-9073 > Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x > 1632 > Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) > Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com > > Name: WINMAIL.DAT > WINMAIL.DAT Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) > Encoding: x-uuencode ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:23:32 -0700 From: Ross Subject: KR: Wood Epoxy for KR2 I recommend Either T-88 or Hexcel structural adheasive for the spruce. I used Hexcel Lamanating epoxy for laminating the spar caps it is much thinner and wets out very well. All from Wicks and ACS. Robert Maniss wrote: > > Have started project ("boat" is upside down on work table) but I'm not > completely satisfied with R/R epoxy. Would like something that could > give greater penetration of the wood. Aeropoxy (AS&S) sounds good but I > don't know. As long as I don't attempt to use one epoxy on top of > another will I encounter problems? Suggestions, please!!! Thanks. > > Bob Maniss Abilene, TX ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:24:02 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Retractable U/C hinge brackets At 05:21 PM 10/25/97 -0700, Ross wrote: >Kobus, > >My apolgies... It took me a while to decode U/C into "landing gear" >my brain kept coding U/C to R/C (radio control). So I thought that >others who were up at 1:00AM might need the translation. It was >late, and I apologize for the posting. > -- Regards > Ross > >Kobus de Wet wrote: >> >> Ross, >> For reasons of simplicity in South Africa we use the term Under Carriage (U/C) for both fixed and retractable, as very few commercial or military aircraft today still have fixed U/C. You must bear in mind that we not only have to put up with American Daftness I think maybe we need to mellow out a bit on the list! For some reason tensions are high and people are jumping on each others case. For the most part I have found this list to be very non-aggressive. Lets keep it that way eh!? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:42:26 -0700 From: "John F. Esch" Subject: Re: KR: Unused Plans for sale What would a reasonable offer for the O-200 C? The only problem I see that is was a GPU engine and what mods would needed to be done? John F. "talking too much again" Esch Salem, OR Ross wrote: > Subject: BOUNCE krnet-l@lists.teleport.com: Non-member submission from > ["Bordelon, Greg" ] > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:13:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: owner-krnet-l@teleport.com > To: owner-krnet-l@teleport.com > > >From krnet-l-owner Fri Oct 24 14:12:54 1997 > Received: from pitbull.ep.hess.com (ns.ameradahess.com > [207.51.255.129]) by smtp2.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id > OAA07476 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:12:50 -0700 > (PDT) > Received: from oac02c.ep.hess.com ([192.168.8.9]) by > pitbull.ep.hess.com > via smtpd (for smtp2.teleport.com [192.108.254.20]) with > SMTP; 24 Oct 1997 21:12:44 UT > Received: by oac02c.ep.hess.com with Internet Mail Service > (5.0.1458.49) > id ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:12:18 -0500 > Message-ID: > <65D1FC658171D011806400805FC142EB93EC1F@oac01e.ep.hess.com> > From: "Bordelon, Greg" > To: "'krnet-l@teleport.com'" > Subject: KR: For Sale (Plans & Engine) > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:12:38 -0500 > X-Priority: 3 > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > <65D1FC658171D011806400805FC142EB93EC1F@oac01e.ep.hess.com> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; > boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCE097.9A08E910" > > This message is in MIME format. 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-0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 97-10-20 00:29:03 EDT, you write: > ><< >The carb on the engine I bought is a Posa with mixture adjustment, anyone > >have experience with it? I've heard the horror stories about Posa, but >have > >also heard that some folks swear by them. If someone can tell me how, I'm > >going to use it, otherwise I'll be in the market for another carb. Thanks > >for your help! > >> If you decide not to use it, please give me a call. I've been trying to >buy >> one for awhile, but it seems whenever someone gets disgusted with one, he >> chucks in in the garbage without letting anyone know, so I never see used >> ones for sale. >> >> Mike Taglieri >> >> > >Hmmm... Well, Jim Faughn offered to show me how to tune the needle, but if >anyone has an Ellison throttle body or Revflow carb they want to get rid of, >I'm in a horse trading mood..... ;-) Email me or Mike directly and we'll >see if we can't work something out. > >Cheers! >Rick Junkin >EagleGator@aol.com >St. Charles MO > Rick, If you want to get rid of the Posa, please let me know. Is it a Super-Posa? Do you have the extra needles? I'm been flying for 5 years and my Dad since 1984 with the Posa and NO proplems with the Posa. Sure I have thought about going to a different type carb but the Posa has been good to us. I wondered if I changed carbs if I would get more power but with the Posa - it is KISS. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:23:07 -0500 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Pitch Trim At 12:52 AM 10/21/97 -0700, you wrote: >At 02:42 AM 10/21/97 -0400, BSHADR@aol.com wrote: >>The point of this is to design your spring installations for a compression >>mode and not tension mode. If you design the system to "capture" the >spring in compression in a tube assembly, if the spring breaks (failure >mode), you do not loose all use of the spring. In a tension application, a >broken spring fails your complete system in that direction. >> >>Randy Stein >>BSHADR@aol.com >> >> >Probably not a bad idea but I will do it like the EZ plans illustrate. >Building a system to utilize springs in compression would be a pain in the >butt. We can only make these >things so idiot proof, after that its up to the idiot! :o) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims > Micheal, Before you go thru with your plan...Please look at the plans of the elevator trim of the Lancair. They use compression sprinings and everyone that has a KR cable control system can adapt the Lancair. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V1 #146 *****************************