From: owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 1997 5:59 AM To: krnet-l-digest@teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V1 #158 krnet-l-digest Tuesday, November 4 1997 Volume 01 : Number 158 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:41:39 -0500 From: "Cary Honeywell" Subject: Re: KR: Taxi Testing KR-1 Email (repy) to cary@storm.ca Web page http://www.storm.ca/~cary/ KR2 area http://www.storm.ca/~cary/kr2.shtml - ---------- > From: enewbold@sprynet.com > > Well, another frustrating weekend went by. > > Went to airport both days and experienced relatively high winds, drizzle, cold, > etc. > Gee. I went to the airport too, but didn't see you there. We had the same weather so it had to be the same airport didn't it? ;-) > It takes me about 20-30 flips to get the engine started. When it does start, > however, it runs nicely in the mid-range and high RPM ranges. Not so at idle > though. I let it warm up sufficiently by babying the throttle back and forth > between std-idle and a very high idle. When I got in it and started taxiing > around, about 1 minute later the engine died. Seems that it loads up in a > prolonged idle, and when you advance the trhottle to clear it, the engine dies. > Ugh! Another 20-30 flips to start it. There has to be something wrong there. It takes 4 flips here and the engine roars to life. I suspect your needle settings for idle are way off, or you are not getting the appropriate fuel pressure to the carb. It may be running off the fuel in the line or gascolator and starving from the tank. > > It has a Posa carb on it, and this week I'm going to fiddle around with the air > mix needle and see if I can't figure this thing out. Any suggestions? > I have several articles on Posa carbs. Will send them off if you give me your address. - - Cary - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 12:38:29 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Taxi Testing KR-1 At 03:41 PM 11/3/97 -0500, you wrote: >I have several articles on Posa carbs. Will send them off if you give me >your address. > >- Cary - > Cary, are they scannable? It may be worth putting them on the net for all to view. I am sure one of us net heads will scan them and upload to our web sites. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 12:45:08 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Soob cuts At 12:36 PM 11/3/97 -0700, you wrote: >My turbo-fuel-infected Soob will be great >eat my dust!! > John Bryhan >jeb@thuntek.net // www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm > Los Alamos, NM > Oh yea,.. then there is Jeb! :o) I bet of all the Subarus running with a reduction yours will be one of the more impressive ones! Hey did anyone ever consider running a Continental O-200 GPU? A friend is building up one for his Tailwind that will be turbocharged and infected (injected). This would make an interesting combination for a KR2S! Something for you guys to think about! Jeff, a turbo on the ole C-85 might make things come to life (well for a short time anyway!) ! :o) Seriously if anyone out there comes across a C-85 , a turbo could be what you have been waiting for! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 23:00:04 GMT From: bbland@busprod.com (Brian Bland) Subject: Re: KR: reference books On Sun, 2 Nov 1997 19:20:52 -0800, you wrote: > Was readingan old Homebuilder Magazine and came across a letter to the >editor about a series in 1981 on building a KR2. Supposedly split in 4 >issues Feb, Apr, Jun, Aug 1981. Any old time builders that know if the >articles were any good and what happened to the Hombuilder Magazine. > >Tom Stokes in Reno NV (still in boat stage and holding). > Tom, I have the Feb and Apr issues. The article is basically a reprint of the RR Manual word for word. Let me know if you are interested in seeing the first two articles. Brian J. Bland, PP, A&P Claremore, OK Building stretched and widened KR-2S bbland@busprod.com http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 18:33:49 EST From: N911TB Subject: Re: KR: Taxi Testing KR-1 In a message dated 97-11-03 14:43:40 EST, you write: >It has a Posa carb on it, and this week I'm going to fiddle around with the >air >mix needle and see if I can't figure this thing out. Any suggestions? If you'll pardon my intrustion, the Posa is your problem. I can't count the number of times I've read or heard of engines that won't run at idle or mid- range and they all have had Posa's. There was an instance of a local KR builder that insisted he could get the Posa to work and wound up on his back. Unfortunately he was in the airplane at the time. Admittedly, some people don't have problems with Posa, but those that do, never seem to solve them. It's not a cheap solution, but try a different carb. Tom Bagnetto ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:01:58 EST From: TANDEM2 Subject: KR: WHITE PRIMER don't know if this has been talked about or not, but here goes: use a opaque silver paint for your undercoat, after you use west systems / micro for initial fill and finish, then use the silver, then use a catalized primer ( rather expensive, but well worth it ) which can be wet sanded and then apply your color coat. the silver paint is used to protect the structure from sunshine. the sun's raditation as you well know, will eventually degrade the fiberglass, but (and that could be a big butt), the aluminum particles in silver paint will block out this action. can you paint your bird darker colors? i don't know, i know i will not, but who ever has the yellow bird that was at the gathering, ask him how things are working out. thanks tandem2 type-4 still rules ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:42:44 -0600 From: "Randy Stout" Subject: [none] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01BCE890.A7F02880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi KR-Netters I just received my plans for the KR-2S, and am anxious to get started. 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Esch Salem, OR TANDEM2 wrote: > don't know if this has been talked about or not, but here goes: > > use a opaque silver paint for your undercoat, after you use west > systems / > micro for initial fill and finish, then use the silver, then use a > catalized > primer ( rather expensive, but well worth it ) which can be wet > sanded and > then apply your color coat. > > the silver paint is used to protect the structure from sunshine. the > sun's > raditation as you well know, will eventually degrade the fiberglass, > but (and > that could be a big butt), the aluminum particles in silver paint will > block > out this action. > > can you paint your bird darker colors? i don't know, i know i will > not, but > who ever has the yellow bird that was at the gathering, ask him how > things are > working out. > > thanks > > tandem2 > > type-4 still rules ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 17:57:46 -0800 From: "John F. Esch" Subject: Re: KR: Birthday I forgot it was Mike's Birthday. Happy Birthday Mike John F. Esch flyer@clas.net wrote: > Happy Birthday Micheal ! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:48:11 -0700 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: Soob cuts On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 06:45:32 PST "Oscar Zuniga" writes: >Jeff; > >I'm taking this very personally. I see that you, like Mike Mims, also >prefer to fly behind "certified". Me, I still think that "experimental" >means just that, and maybe I can make that Soob pull my (future) KR >along just fast enough to show you how the tail feathers finished out! > >Oscar It wasn't meant to be a slam. A C-85 is a known quantity. I bought mine because it came off from a plane I had been flying, was a known quantity to me, and the price was right. I've had a couple of engine failures of varying degrees flying behind certified engines. Soobs and such get lots of hype on the HP numbers without ever having to prove it out. On the other hand, with a A-65, A75, C-85, C90 or O-200, you have a pretty good idea of what the engine will do if it's in decent shape. I've heard all kinds of very impressive numbers about a Soob powered KR that most of us are familiar with, but watched it barely drag itself off the ground at a whopping 300ft ASL. As for racing with the Soob, I'll be the first one to congratulate you if it out performs my C-85; but personally, I'm not out looking for a race. Now, Get your plane built so we can line 'em up! :o) Jeff "where's that nitro injection system" Scott - ------ Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://fly.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: //www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 18:57:29 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Birthday At 07:55 PM 11/3/97 -0600, you wrote: >Happy Birthday Micheal ! > Thanks! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:02:04 -0500 (EST) From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: KR: N415RJ The tail number is reserved, now all I have to do is finish the airplane..... and the test manual..... and the builder's manual supplement...... piece of cake. Did I mention I'm changing jobs? No big deal, I've heard that has very little impact on your available building time..... Still planning on flying to the '98 gathering. Sorry for rambling, it happens some times. Cheers! Rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:46:32 -0800 From: enewbold@sprynet.com Subject: Re: KR: Taxi Testing KR-1 - Thanks Cary >Gee. I went to the airport too, but didn't see you there. We had the same >weather so it had to be the same airport didn't it? ;-) Hahaha. We must have been at opposite ends of the runway! >>It takes me about 20-30 flips to get the engine started. >>When it does start, however, it runs nicely in the mid-range >>and high RPM ranges. Not so at idle ... >> Ugh! Another 20-30 flips to start it. >There has to be something wrong there. It takes 4 flips here and the engine >roars to life. I suspect your needle settings for idle are way off, or you >are not getting the appropriate fuel pressure to the carb. It may be >running off the fuel in the line or gascolator and starving from the tank. I dunno. I can keep it running endlessly so long as I keep it above idle, so I'm fairly certain it's drawing fuel ok. >> It has a Posa carb on it, ... Any suggestions? >I have several articles on Posa carbs. Will send them off if you give me >your address. - Cary - Thanks for the offer, Cary. If you get them to me, I'll read them (copy them) and return them to you ASAP. All help is appreciated. Ed Newbold 5657 Balkan Place Columbus, OH 43231 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:46:19 -0800 From: tomstokes1@juno.com (Wayland T. Stokes) Subject: Re: KR: reference books Brian If thats all there is to it I don't think I need it, thanks a lot anyway. Tom in Reno NV On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 23:00:04 GMT bbland@busprod.com (Brian Bland) writes: >On Sun, 2 Nov 1997 19:20:52 -0800, you wrote: > >> Was readingan old Homebuilder Magazine and came across a letter to >the >>editor about a series in 1981 on building a KR2. Supposedly split in >4 >>issues Feb, Apr, Jun, Aug 1981. Any old time builders that know if >the >>articles were any good and what happened to the Hombuilder Magazine. >> >>Tom Stokes in Reno NV (still in boat stage and holding). >> > >Tom, > >I have the Feb and Apr issues. The article is basically a reprint of >the RR Manual word for word. Let me know if you are interested in >seeing the first two articles. > > >Brian J. Bland, PP, A&P >Claremore, OK >Building stretched and widened KR-2S > >bbland@busprod.com >http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:50:36 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Imron Having painted my Ghia 10 years ago with Imron, I think I know why people say "it's hard to match". The problem with repainting a repair is that the outlying areas of the repair will hit dry, and will be dull compared to the "wet look" of the rest of the job and the center of the repair. The stuff is so hard that rubbing it out is required, and you still can't make rubbed out Imron look as good as the original "wet look". It's great paint though, and I may very well use it on my bird someday, if not the regular acrylic enamel stuff that's not quite so toxic. Don't know about runs though. I had the good luck to avoid them, and orange peel too! Don't let anybody tell you it's hard to paint. It was my first paint job...but the year of prep work prepared me for shooting the final coat. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:51:15 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Re: Flight Testing AC Rick Junkin wrote: > The AC Ross is talking about is AC 90-89A, Amateur-Built Aircraft and > Ultralight Flight Testing Handbook, mine is dated 5/24/95. It is available > from the U.S. Government Printing Office for $6.50, add 25% for foreign Rick, I found this document on the web last year and printed it out. I don't remember where, but it's out there under FAA stuff somewhere. A search on AC 90-89A would probably turn it up. I'll see if I can find it later and report back... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:44:13 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: vinyl ester availability VinylEsterHeads, Finally got thru to somebody at AS&S that cared enough to investigate. The vinyl ester that I ordered 5 weeks ago is expected in December. It seems they are changing the way they package it. They used to get it in a 55 gallon drum, and divided it up into one gallon cans for sale. Now, their supplier will send them in one gallon cans. I suspect they are waiting for 55 back orders before promoting the drum, but I'm a pessimist, and prone to think the worst... And I still hate the stuff. Just in case your curiosity was killing you... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 03:48:33 GMT From: bbland@busprod.com (Brian Bland) Subject: Re: KR: Birthday On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 18:57:29 -0800, you wrote: >At 07:55 PM 11/3/97 -0600, you wrote: >>Happy Birthday Micheal ! >> >Thanks! >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims >Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims > Yeah! Happy Birthday! Now get back to the garage and get to work!! :) Brian J. Bland, PP, A&P Claremore, OK Building stretched and widened KR-2S bbland@busprod.com http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 20:18:09 -0800 From: Ross Subject: KR: Re:Ellison Mike, The Ellison for a VW is only $700.... BTW Ellison DOES NOT recommend installing the EFS WITHOUT Carb Heat. - -- Ross Micheal Mims wrote: > > At 04:36 PM 11/1/97 -0600, you wrote: > >>Yup, it's an Ellison. They are less prone to picking up ice than a > regular carb, but not immune to it. Avoiding it takes common sense and good > judgement. > >> > > >Avoiding temps of 60degF and 50%RH is not so easy in my estimation. > > > >But as to the feds - if only they had a chance to comment on a plane > >of mine - I have been featherless for too long now... > > > The two Ellison install that I am familiar with have carb heat installed > (because the feds said to do it) but it is never used nor has there been any > hint of carb ice. Ellisons are cool but cost major $$$$ The one for my > O-290 is around $1200! Gack! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 20:18:47 -0800 From: Ross Subject: Re: KR: Safety wire twisters Marvin, I also got a pair of automagic wire strippers for $10.00 Cool place Boing Surplus. -- Ross MARVIN MCCOY wrote: > > ----------------------- > I just picked up a really nice set of spring loaded safety wire > twisters at the Boeing surplus store for $10. Aircraft Spruce has them > listed for $56. Any of you guys in the Seattle area should check it > out. > > Marvin McCoy > Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing field > Mr.Marvin@worldnet.att.net > ------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 22:20:42 -0800 From: Tom Brown Subject: KR: Headset Problems KRNetters I was wondering if anyone out there in the Krnet land could help me out. I recently obtained an old headset (David Clarks) that were used by the military. It has a single U-174/U plug on it so I bought a converter from sporty’s to convert it to a PJ-68 and PJ-055 to be used in a C172. I hook it up to the Aircraft and earphones work fine but the mike does not. I conducted a ohms test on all wiring in the converter and headset separately and together and everything checks out. The Aircraft has a VOX intercom and I was wondering if this mike is compatible with that type system. Can anyone give me some advise on how to get this mike working on this headset? Thanks in advance Tom tbrown@pcpros.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 20:23:08 -0800 From: Ross Subject: KR: paint sags A old body pro used to joke, that if it starts to run, just lay it on thick and cut it with a razor blade. (He was joking of course.) However I got the impression from him that it was better to spray thicker than thin, as you can rub out the finish later. If it's too thin, you don't have much to rub out before hitting primer... at least thats what I got from it. -- Ross Ed Janssen wrote: > > >Thanks. The original paint job was done with DuPont's Imron polyurethane > enamel. > >I was hoping someone could recommend a compatible touch up paint for it. > > > >Ed Newbold > >Columbus, OH > > The only thing I've heard is that Imron is difficult to match when doing a > repair. I've seen it done successfully on a P-51 with leading edge rain > damage - the guy had lots of experience tho. Don't know how he did it - > lots of help to you, right? I could try to contact him if you're interested. > > Was talking with a guy yesterday about painting and learned something I > didn't know. He said that if you see a place where the paint is beginning > to sag, take a short piece of masking tape and lightly touch the sag, pull > it off and then shoot the area again. Beats letting it dry, then sand and > reshoot. He says, afterwards you can't tell where you did it. I guess , > the trick is to see the sag developing in the first place. Anyone else > heard of doing this? > > Ed Janssen > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 22:19:53 -0600 From: brian whatcott Subject: Re: KR: N415RJ At 22:02 11/3/97 -0500, you wrote: >The tail number is reserved, now all I have to do is finish the airplane..... > and the test manual..... and the builder's manual supplement...... piece >of cake. Did I mention I'm changing jobs? No big deal, I've heard that has >very little impact on your available building time..... Still planning on >flying to the '98 gathering. > >Sorry for rambling, it happens some times. > >Cheers! >Rick > > New job? I hear there are strong sucking sounds from the region of Seattle that are centered on McD ... am I getting warm? Regards Brian brian whatcott Altus OK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 20:26:08 -0800 From: Ross Subject: Re: KR: dragging out the newsletter horse - again Steve, Don't wait... submit the article to me and or Randy and we will publish it. Also... when we have enough good stuff for a CDROM we can cut one. If the donations from next years Gathering are anything like this years, we will have enough to fund KRNET for another year, and a head start on the costs of burning CD's. The drives are about $200. And I'm trying to get my work to buy me one ($4,000) so either way we should be in position. All we need now is stuff to put on it. -- Ross Steven A Eberhart wrote: > > I just finished printing out the sections on spar and wing construction > for the Long-EZ from the Rutan CR ROM's. What a nice resource, includes > the manuals for all of the Rutan homebuilt designs. Printed out on legal > size paper - I now have a perfect clone of the Long-EZ manual - looks just > like the original. Also printed out the applicable Canard Pusher > newsletters, that are also on the CD's. Granted the CD's cost $329 but > what a resource for homebuilders! > > With the resources here on KRnet we could put together a comparable > resource for KR builders. It would require getting Rand Robinson and the > copyright holders of the newsletters on board but a split in royalaty > payments for the individual copyright holders might do the trick. I would > pay an additional $200 for a comprehensive CDROM set for the KR. It would > have to have the new KR plans and all of the newsletters though. It could > be done just like the Rutan CD's no license to build and no template > drawings but everything else. The Rutan CD's even include the Bible - > Moldless Composite Construction publication. > > Just my .02 + $300 worth. Will be doing an article on vacuum bagging > wing assemblies for the on line KR newsletter when it is reserected. > > Steve Eberhart > newtech@newtech.com > http://www.evansville.net for glass panel info > http://www.newtech.com/skyterrier (soon for my construction notes) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 20:31:34 -0800 From: Ross Subject: Re: KR: WHITE PRIMER System III topcoat is UV resistant, but it "gives up" after about 6-10 years I'm told. - -- Ross TANDEM2 wrote: > > don't know if this has been talked about or not, but here goes: > > use a opaque silver paint for your undercoat, after you use west systems / > micro for initial fill and finish, then use the silver, then use a catalized > primer ( rather expensive, but well worth it ) which can be wet sanded and > then apply your color coat. > > the silver paint is used to protect the structure from sunshine. the sun's > raditation as you well know, will eventually degrade the fiberglass, but (and > that could be a big butt), the aluminum particles in silver paint will block > out this action. > > can you paint your bird darker colors? i don't know, i know i will not, but > who ever has the yellow bird that was at the gathering, ask him how things are > working out. > > thanks > > tandem2 > > type-4 still rules ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 20:33:05 -0800 From: Ross Subject: Re: KR: T-Shirt idea Golf Shirts with Pockets it is... now as soon as I find a supplier I will take some orders. Don't hold your breath. -- Ross Vince Bozik wrote: > > > I'd prefer the golf shirt too. Didn't we do this thread last year > > with > > "T-Shirt Vinnie" as the protagonist? > > > > BTW, I just sent Malcolm Hartman a check for his KR plans. I can > > almost > > hear the spruce trees trembling with fear :o) > > > > Patrick > > -- > > Patrick Flowers > > Mailto:patri63@ibm.net > > Yep, > Kinda feel like I let you guys down. I got the prices and > everything else on it, but didn't have a logo. The only Idea that I had > was to use Carlos' logo from his pages. After spring, I was no longer > working for the printing company so I kinda let the whole thing go. > Everyone was real enthusiastic; too bad I was lazy... :( > Heck, I'm no artistic person anyway. I'm sure these things would be 100 > times better than anything I could conjur up. > > Cheers, > Vince (was T-shirt vinnie, now New Modem Vinnie) Bozik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:58:16 -0600 (CST) From: flesner Subject: KR: elect. art. horz Thanks Anton and Cole for your replys. I do know John Johnson. He is the Tech. Advisor for our local EAA chapter. I have two JPG's at 110k of my instrument panel and one of the top mounted rudder pedals with the toe brakes mounted completely on the pedal bars. If someone has a place for me to post them I would be happy to share them with other builders. I'm afraid that attaching them to my e-mail will tie things up a bit for everyone. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 04:38:56 GMT From: bbland@busprod.com (Brian Bland) Subject: Re: KR: elect. art. horz On Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:58:16 -0600 (CST), you wrote: > Thanks Anton and Cole for your replys. I do know > John Johnson. He is the Tech. Advisor for our local > EAA chapter.=20 > > I have two JPG's at 110k of my instrument panel and > one of the top mounted rudder pedals with the toe > brakes mounted completely on the pedal bars. If someone > has a place for me to post them I would be happy to=20 > share them with other builders. I'm afraid that attaching > them to my e-mail will tie things up a bit for=20 > everyone. > > Larry Flesner > =20 > Larry , Send em my way and I'll post em. OK! Brian J. Bland, PP, A&P Claremore, OK Building stretched and widened KR-2S bbland@busprod.com http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 22:46:21 -0600 From: Kerry Miller Subject: KR: Posa info? If you guys come up with some info, pix, etc. on the Posa, I'd like to see it too. I talked to Bob Muse at the fly-in and he said if it's set up right it shouldn't be any problem. However, he did ask me if I had a starter... Kerry Miller Royse City, TX ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 20:40:33 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Re:Ellison At 08:18 PM 11/3/97 -0800, you wrote: >Mike, > The Ellison for a VW is only $700.... > BTW Ellison DOES NOT recommend installing the >EFS WITHOUT Carb Heat. > ONLY $700!! Yea I know, heck I remember when the Ellison for the VWs were only a little over $400. That wasn't that long ago, its when you get into the larger versions the price goes through the roof! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 20:44:59 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: elect. art. horz At 09:58 PM 11/3/97 -0600, you wrote: > I have two JPG's at 110k of my instrument panel and > one of the top mounted rudder pedals with the toe > brakes mounted completely on the pedal bars. If someone > has a place for me to post them I would be happy to > share them with other builders. I'm afraid that attaching > them to my e-mail will tie things up a bit for > everyone. > > Larry Flesner > > Larry, you could send them direct to me at: mikemims@pacbell.net and I will put them on the ideas page. Maybe include a brief description. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:10:24 -0500 (EST) From: MikeTnyc@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: main spar holes > > We are going a bit overboard on this one. The maximum stress levels will >> > occur at the junction of the spar and the fuselage. >> Very true, Here's my tips. . . . All sounds very good, but I thought of something else. Could you avoid the problem by epoxying a piece of wood with a T-nut or something to the spar and bolt your fitting to that? Or would the glued piece of wood set up a stress riser at that place on the spar and be as bad as a hole? Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:11:30 -0500 (EST) From: MikeTnyc@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Why KR2S is the best airplane in the world. >Top 10 reasons why the KR2S is the BEST airplane in the world. > >10 Too small for most mother-in-laws to travel in. > > 9 The wings come off for trailering. From bitter experience: when people ask you, "How do you get it to the airport when you're done building it?" you should never answer, "The wings come off." Instead say. "The wings are REMOVEABLE." The difference is significant, especially to the 50% of your friends and relatives who already think you're a suicidal nut just for wanting to build a plane, but may not have gotten around to telling you that in plain words yet. No point in giving them more ammunition than necessary. At a recent party, I also was confronted with the inevitable question, "How can you build a plane that killed its own designer?" I answered that he ran out of fuel, so it wasn't the plane's fault, which I thought would settle it. Instead the response was, "Then he must have been an idiot! How can you build a plane that was designed by an idiot?" You can't win sometimes. Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:11:29 EST From: BSHADR Subject: KR: dragging out the newsletter horse - again In a message dated 97-11-03 23:24:51 EST, Steve wrote: << Will be doing an article on vacuum bagging > wing assemblies for the on line KR newsletter when it is reserected. >> Steve: KROnline will be up and running when enough new stuff comes in to do the next issue. Like Monte, the material needs to be there before we can pump some life into the 'ol nag. Everyone (and anyone) can submit articles, tidbits, ideas, etc. Just send 'em my way and we'll cook up an issue. Randy (KROnwhine) Stein BSHADR@aol.com Soviet Monica, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:13:29 -0500 (EST) From: TANDEM2@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: WHITE PRIMER west system and system3 are two different things. i beleave shirl dickey of E-RACER fame used this on his plane and its been flying for quite some time, no probmento on that paint job tandem2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 23:14:29 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: WHITE PRIMER At 07:01 PM 11/3/97 EST, you wrote: >can you paint your bird darker colors? i don't know, i know i will not, but >who ever has the yellow bird that was at the gathering, ask him how things are working out. > >thanks > >tandem2 Painters, wantabe painters, and those who think they want to build an RV I hung out with the local RV snobs (actually these guys are OK but still snobs) this Sunday for brunch. One of them owns a RV6A that won awards at Copperstate this year (some of you may have seen it), well anyway his plane is ALWAYS hangered, heck if I invested over $80k in a homebuilt I think it would reside in a hanger too! OK back to the point, while his RV sat on the ramp at Copperstate and the desert heat reached searing temperatures his fiberglass wing tips got soft and sagged. He painted his tips blue (medium blue) thinking it would be OK as he has seen others painted with colors other than white. Needless to say he now has some work to do to get his RV back in shape! So the UV thing may be a concern but like Brian mentioned in an earlier post, HEAT is our enemy! And I saw proof this weekend! Other notes from the conversations, two guys had over $10k invested in tools alone to build their RV's! Two of them were just hit by the AD note that is out on the mid size Lycs ($5000 AD I might add) and one said his fuel bill for the last five months has been over $500 a month! Another guy said his monthly cost for his 200hp RV6, hanger, fuel, oil and misc, averaged about $1500 a month last year, not including the annual! Hanging out with these guys for that brief period reminded me why I am building a KR, that's for sure!! One thing that I really appreciated was that I didn't get snubbed and these guys were really interested in my KR after they learned of the minor mods to improve seating comfort and the fact I was bolting a O-290 to the front! They mumbled something about being able to keep up with them! I enquired about their top speeds and cruise speeds and mumbled something like "yea,.. you MIGHT be able to keep up with me!" :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 04:19:32 -0500 (EST) From: JEHayward@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: A "how to" question about wing gap seals In a message dated 97-10-31 01:08:43 EST, you write: << Glass it together. If you ever ding the plane and have to move it by >highway, you can always cut through the glass then. Mine would have been >glassed together if I could have finished it at the airport. BTW, Roy >Marsh glassed his together. I doubt that Ron has cut the wings off. > So did Troy Petteway. I just don't see any reason to ever bring this thing home after its at the airport! Mike "glassing outer wing gaps" Mims >> The only thing I noticed about the gaps on Troy's plane were hairline cracks and he commented that they were the only thing he didn't like about glassing the gap... it looked like the wing had cracked and was unsafe. Jim Hayward ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 04:25:39 -0500 (EST) From: TANDEM2@aol.com Subject: KR: 78mm cranks can anyone give me the address of bradley aero --- is suppose to have ad in sport plane. web site will do thanks tandem2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 97 13:24:37 ˙˙˙ From: steveb@aviation.denel.co.za Subject: KR: ac90-89a Hi guys You can find the AC90-89A (Amateur built a/c & ultralight flight testing handbook) at web site http://sportflyer.com/kitplane.htm Steve in South Africa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 07:18:13 -0600 From: Robert Lasecki Subject: KR: for sale I have a new Great Plains engine mount for a KR-2S (VW Engine) which cost $190.00, will sell for $150.00 and will pay UPS ground shipping. Please e-mail me direct. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 05:37:52 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Troy's engine-out >>FYI After Troy's recent engine out landing, he had to cut his wings off >to trailer it home. > > Bobby Muse(N122B) > bmuse@mindspring.com > Wimberly, TX Hi, Bobby- What happened to Troy's engine? I hadn't heard about this incident. I guess I should remember, but is he running a Revmaster? Oscar ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:50:03 -0600 From: "Hartman, Malcolm L (New Orleans JRB)" Subject: KR: RE: Headset Problems Tom, The microphones used with almost all military intercom systems (ICS) are dynamic microphones (not amplified) and have an output signal that is much lower and have a different impedance than the general aviation ICS. Since yours has the U-174/U connector, it is almost certain that the microphone you are in possession of is that type. You will need to either replace the microphone or install an impedance matching amplifier between the microphone and ICS. There is such a device, I can't seem to remember where you would go to get one at the moment. I'll ask around and see if I can come up with any information for you. M. Hartman/N926FW >---------- >From: Tom Brown[SMTP:tbrown@pcpros.net] >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 1997 12:20AM >To: krnet-l@teleport.com >Subject: KR: Headset Problems > >KRNetters > >I was wondering if anyone out there in the Krnet land could help me out. >I recently obtained an old headset (David Clarks) that were used by the >military. It has a single U-174/U plug on it so I bought a converter >from sporty's to convert it to a PJ-68 and PJ-055 to be used in a C172. >I hook it up to the Aircraft and earphones work fine but the mike does >not. I conducted a ohms test on all wiring in the converter and headset >separately and together and everything checks out. The Aircraft has a >VOX intercom and I was wondering if this mike is compatible with that >type system. Can anyone give me some advise on how to get this mike >working on this headset? > >Thanks in advance > >Tom >tbrown@pcpros.net > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 05:59:03 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: KR on CD-ROM >Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:49:41 -0600 (CST) >From: Steven A Eberhart >To: krnet-l@teleport.com >Subject: KR: dragging out the newsletter horse - again >Reply-To: krnet-l@teleport.com >with snips >I just finished printing out the sections on spar and wing >construction for the Long-EZ from the Rutan CR ROM's. but >what a resource for homebuilders! > >With the resources here on KRnet we could put together a comparable >resource for KR builders. It would require getting Rand Robinson and >the copyright holders of the newsletters on board but a split in >royalaty payments for the individual copyright holders might do the >trick. > >Steve Eberhart > Hi, Steve- This wouldn't be all that hard to do, except for the part about getting the copyright thing straightened out. CD-ROM burners are everywhere these days (we have one in our office for archiving drawings onto CDs), and with a little cleaning up and good mastering, it certainly shouldn't cost anybody $330 to get ahold of one! As my own opinion, it shouldn't cost anybody more than $20 or $30. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V1 #158 *****************************