From: owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 1998 10:27 PM To: krnet-l-digest@teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #31 krnet-l-digest Tuesday, February 3 1998 Volume 02 : Number 031 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 23:10:55 EST From: leperkins@juno.com (Lloyd Perkins,Jr.) Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster Prop for sale Gene , What are the specs on that baby ???? I think I can use it . Regards, Lloyd On Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:25:06 EST BSHADR@aol.com writes: >KRNetheads: > >FYI, this came across the quickie list. Enjoy... > >Randy Stein >BSHADR@aol.com >Soviet Monica, CA > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Subj: RE: Q-LIST: Propellers >Date: 98-02-02 10:48:13 EST >From: cash@littongcs.com (Cash, Gene) > >I have a brand new Cowley prop that was original equipment for the >Revmaster. I will be using an O-200 so I can't use it. Any offers? > >Gene Cash > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 23:10:55 EST From: leperkins@juno.com (Lloyd Perkins,Jr.) Subject: Re: KR: HELP!!!! Darrin, Thanks , but I have a KR-2. Regards, Lloyd On Mon, 02 Feb 1998 18:39:17 -0800 darrin writes: >Lloyd Perkins,Jr. wrote: >> >> Gentlemen, >> >> I have joined the ranks of the Elite I am a KR owner. I tucked >N28AK >> safley to bed in my garage just minutes ago..... I am happy to >report >> that father and new airplane are doing well..... BUT now comes the >> dificult part. Does anyone have a set of plans I can copy as well as >a >> builders book ????? I want to see how everything is supposed to be >done , >> so that I can stick as close as I can to the intended product. >> Or should I buy a set from Rand????? >> >> Thanks, >> Lloyd >> >> >_____________________________________________________________________ >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > >Lloyd, if you have a kr-1, I have an old set of plans I would part >with. >I purchased a new set from RR just to make sure I had everything. > > Darrin West > KR-1 > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 23:16:09 -0800 From: "Martin Mulvey" Subject: KR: Re: sad My deepest sympathy goes to you and the families involved. Please do not apologize as one is not needed. All the best! Marty - -----Original Message----- From: John F. Esch To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: 02 February, 1998 18:07 Subject: KR: sad >To all > >I know this has nothing to do with the KR but the people in Oregon >probably has heard about the helicopter accident that happened >Saturday. It claimed one of my pilots in my Guard unit. He was >instructing a gentleman, which he has done for the past couple of years, >in a Rotorway Exec. The tailboom came off inflight and both soles >perished. >I apologize for bringing this up but it is my way of dealing with this >manner. He was part of "our" aviation community and he will be sure >missed! > > >SGT John F. Esch >1042 Medical Company (Air Ambulance) >Crew Chief / Admin NCO >Salem, OR > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 23:10:55 EST From: leperkins@juno.com (Lloyd Perkins,Jr.) Subject: Re: KR: Pilots certificate Bob, don't be discouraged most people get their licenses between 70 to 100 hours. I speak as an experienced CFI. One of my greatest moments as a CFI came when my first student soloed. God what a great ,but scary feeling that was, just like your children you just have to let them go so they can succeed.. That is not an easy lesson for a new CFI to learn.. We are not taught that during our training . A student doesn't have to perform like a ATP . Just safely and competently. Don't be at all put off by an inexperienced CFI.. You will ACE your check ride...... You are more than ready at this point.. Just relax and do what we all love to do.......FLY..... Best Regards, Lloyd P.S. Good luck !!!!! On Mon, 02 Feb 1998 12:48:15 -0500 smithr writes: >I am writing this in case it might help somebody who is considering >flight training. > >I think that I might be setting a worlds record for length of pilots >training. After hearing many of you say you got a certificate in less >than 50 hrs, I was discouraged when I was at 90 hours and still no >certificate. I have my final flight test scheduled for wednesday and >now > have 125 flight hours at a cost of probably $7500. (Training in a >152). >No wonder my KR progress is slow, I'm too broke to buy parts. > >I attribute this long training to a few things. 1) I am the first >student to finish under my CFI. I think he is more nervous than I am. >2) > Instead of flying twice a week, I stretched it out over 24 months >with >sometimes going 1 month without a lesson. 3) I found out at about 90 >hours that communication between me and my CFI stunk. I thought my >landings were good... He didn't but didn't really tell me. When I >drifted 10 ft in a crosswind landing I thought it was OK but the chief > >CFI said the centerline had to stay within the wheels.4)my own >stupidity >(thought I'd put this in there before one of you do) > >I will say that my flying has greatly improved over the last 25 hours. > >By the way, I was flying (not landing) a KR2 at about 50 hrs. More fun > >than a 152. > >Bob Smith, Albany, NY. Love to fly. Slightly discouraged but end is in > >sight. > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 23:47:43 -0800 From: "John F. Esch" Subject: Re: KR: Re: sad Thanks guys for all the kind words. I never realized how much exposure I had with this gentleman until tonight while thinking of the stuff he did for the unit and with me. That is one reason I thought I would bring it up on the net. The closer the services get, the harder it is going to get for all of us in the aviation community in the Guard up here. Now I know how the guys/family of any accident that has happen. Be tough and learn from the past. John (flame me if you want) F. Esch Martin Mulvey wrote: > My deepest sympathy goes to you and the families involved. Please do > not > apologize as one is not needed. > All the best! Marty > -----Original Message----- > From: John F. Esch > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Date: 02 February, 1998 18:07 > Subject: KR: sad > > >To all > > > >I know this has nothing to do with the KR but the people in Oregon > >probably has heard about the helicopter accident that happened > >Saturday. It claimed one of my pilots in my Guard unit. He was > >instructing a gentleman, which he has done for the past couple of > years, > >in a Rotorway Exec. The tailboom came off inflight and both soles > >perished. > >I apologize for bringing this up but it is my way of dealing with > this > >manner. He was part of "our" aviation community and he will be sure > >missed! > > > > > >SGT John F. Esch > >1042 Medical Company (Air Ambulance) > >Crew Chief / Admin NCO > >Salem, OR > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 10:18:50 +0000 From: Antonio Pereira Subject: Re: KR: Pilots certificate I wonder if you ever considered switching instructors. From what you say, it seems to me that the guy is not very successful at accessing your progress and training needs, or he is after your money. When looking for a CFI, choose one with gray hair and crooked back; that should do it. Don't get discouraged. I've known guys to solo at 60 hours, so what's the big deal. Wish you all the best, Antonio smithr wrote: > I am writing this in case it might help somebody who is considering > flight training. > > I think that I might be setting a worlds record for length of pilots > training. After hearing many of you say you got a certificate in less > than 50 hrs, I was discouraged when I was at 90 hours and still no > certificate. I have my final flight test scheduled for wednesday and now > have 125 flight hours at a cost of probably $7500. (Training in a 152). > No wonder my KR progress is slow, I'm too broke to buy parts. > > I attribute this long training to a few things. 1) I am the first > student to finish under my CFI. I think he is more nervous than I am. 2) > Instead of flying twice a week, I stretched it out over 24 months with > sometimes going 1 month without a lesson. 3) I found out at about 90 > hours that communication between me and my CFI stunk. I thought my > landings were good... He didn't but didn't really tell me. When I > drifted 10 ft in a crosswind landing I thought it was OK but the chief > CFI said the centerline had to stay within the wheels.4)my own stupidity > (thought I'd put this in there before one of you do) > > I will say that my flying has greatly improved over the last 25 hours. > By the way, I was flying (not landing) a KR2 at about 50 hrs. More fun > than a 152. > > Bob Smith, Albany, NY. Love to fly. Slightly discouraged but end is in > sight. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 04:12:47 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Pilots certificate Cheer up, Bob; you wrote: >I think that I might be setting a worlds record for length of pilots >training. After hearing many of you say you got a certificate in less >than 50 hrs, I was discouraged when I was at 90 hours and still no >certificate. I have my final flight test scheduled for wednesday and now > have 125 flight hours Stay cool, good luck on Wed., just remember to FLY THE PLANE FIRST, and you'll do just fine. And watch out for the FAA guy- he will ask you to pick up a chart on the floor, or a pencil he dropped, or something... and put it in an unusual attitude while getting you vertigo'd out! ;o) My logbook shows 51.7 hrs. when Andy Anderson signed me off at David Wayne Hooks airport in Houston in '81. When he shook my hand and my buddy's hand afterward, he told me that we were probably a heck of a lot better pilots than he was when he got his wings in a hurry and flew a TBM as a Navy pilot in WWII. Every hour you spend with a CFI is a good one, because you have an extra pair of eyes helping; it will pay off. Oh, BTW- I lost my first logbook, (with my cherished first solo in a J-3 logged), and about another 13 hours... so I guess I actually had about 65 hours at checkride. My instructor wouldn't sign me off until he had _instructed_ me; and I'm glad he didn't. No accidents, no incidents in 468 hrs. Worst thing I've ever done is run out of fuel in a 150 (on short final; I did OK; don't trust gauges anymore); worst incident I've had was in a Citabria when the throttle cable clamp nut let go on takeoff and the throttle was stuck wide open. Instructor in rear seat- no problem! Use mixture idle cutoff to control the engine, we made it OK. And...you wrote- >I will say that my flying has greatly improved over the last 25 >hours. That's how you know when you're ready, sir. When things happen 'naturally' in the cockpit, and start to click. You know the plane and how to fly it, and your hands aren't in a death-grip on the controls. And most of the time the back of your shirt isn't too wet! Oscar (too long winded, but great memories) Zuniga Medford, Oregon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 04:18:04 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Sad Sorry to hear about your buddy, John. Do not worry about mentioning it here; it helps keep a sense of reality in this flying activity. I'm with you 100% on the therapeutic value of KRNet; as I've mentioned to several here in private posts, the time I spend here and in aviation stuff is the only thing that's keeping me sane, half the time. If not for the flying and the dreaming, I'd be a basket case. Death is a part of life, but it rarely seems to occur at the proper time to suit us. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 06:58:54 -0600 From: jaugilas Subject: Re: KR: Pilots certificate Ron Lee wrote: > > At 12:48 PM 2/2/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > >I think that I might be setting a worlds record for length of pilots > >training. After hearing many of you say you got a certificate in less > >than 50 hrs, I was discouraged when I was at 90 hours and still no > >certificate. > > My only response is "So what"? You should see how clutzy I was at trying > to get proficient again in a taildragger. I stunk and took about 5 times > more than I expected. Does it hurt my pride...nope. Should you care > that you took longer than "typical"???.......NOPE. > > You will be a pilot soon and once you have the certificate, the training > process is irrelevant. My only suggestion is that you develop, if not > already, the ability to know your limitations and know when to make a > go-around, when to abort a flight plan and divert to avoid weather, and > when to say today is not right for me to fly. > > Ron Lee > > > > >Bob Smith, Albany, NY. Love to fly. Slightly discouraged but end is in > >sight. > > > > Hear Hear, 100% correct The past is past. The future is flying. What You do now and in the future is what counts. Good decision making comes with time. It knows not whether that time is before or after a "ticket" has been issued. Go/no go, go around, weather, cross winds, ... not only need a technique to preform, but the decision making process is allways at work. That process uses information to process. That information comes from many sources. The major one is called experience. Brighter side, I heared you can log PIC time from before your license from solo time. I would verify this though. It came up in conversation at a Civil Air Patrol meeting and other being what they are had to rush to see this in the FAR's themselves. They came back convinced. I have not seen this. Just think, insurance companies and others always ask for PIC time and Total time. What does that mean? I alway thought that total time was also important to give others a basis of a persons' total experience which can be more than actually getting credit for being PIC. Confessions, I could be clasified with you. Everyone that took over 60 or 65 hours can also. That is the average. I took 73.4 hours. I understand how the process gets dragged out when time goes by. It took me about 11 months to complete. Many times I did not fly for a month. A person develops rust very fast in those days. My confession is also the problem many times going out to practice manuvers I just flew around enjoying to fly. I was practicing but not getting much done. More having fun than work I guess I would say. That didn't at all keep training costs down nor did that keep to business. But what was I learning to fly for? Happy Flying God Bless Bill J. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 09:14:02 -0500 From: "Richard Parker" Subject: KR: Re: URL change, England trip I was over in England about a month ago and tried to use hotmail.com to access the KR-net. Unfortunately it wasnt working well. I kept getting blocked from getting in. Then I tried to access the UK style address (hotmail.co.uk) and a page came up that said it was reserved. I think that hotmail is trying to set up a UK based server. Since they make their money off of targeted marketing you wouldnt want to get ad for american products if you lived in england. Richard Parker Jaffrey, NH > From: Mark Langford > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Subject: KR: URL change, England trip > Date: Monday, February 02, 1998 11:05 PM > > KRNetHeads, > > I got word today that my ISP is changing my web address to > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford . I lost the coolest part, the "fly". Oh > well. Please change any links to my site that you might have, as they are > soon destined to disappear. This new one works already. > > I'm leaving Wednesday for almost a month in England. Not a pleasure trip, > the working kind of trip, but I WILL be staying at a bed n breakfast within > walking distance of the coast of Wales. I mention this because I'm not > sure that I'll be able to check my email from there, but if you DO email > me, make it obvious that it's to me in the subject line. Otherwise, I'll > probably be a little crazy with the delete key when I get back to 1500 > messages in my in box... > > I plan to meet Richard Mole while I'm there, as I'll certainly have Sundays > off, at least. If there are any others anywhere near Bridgend (Richard's > from North of London, but that's close enough), let me know and I'll try to > get together. Richard might be able to treat me to a ride in his > DeHavilland, weather and circumstances permitting. > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > email at langford@hiwaay.net > KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:25:31 -0500 From: "Driessen, Marcel" Subject: KR: KRnet-Archives Since my harddisk is getting overfilled I have to delete part of my e-mails. Can someone tell me where I can find the KRnet-Archives and how to acces them. Thanks Marcel Driessen KR2S-Builder (boat on wheels) Meerlo, Limburg, The Netherlands e-mail: driessen@krohne.mhs.compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 12:17:57 -0500 From: smithr Subject: Re: KR: Pilots certificate Antonio Pereira wrote: > > I wonder if you ever considered switching instructors. From what you say, it > seems to me that the guy is not very successful at accessing your progress > and training needs, or he is after your money.. > smithr wrote:. I was discouraged when I was at 90 hours and still no > > certificate. I have my final flight test scheduled for wednesday and now > > have 125 flight hours at a cost of probably $7500. (Training in a 152). I realized that I should have tried another CFI too late. I chose this particular one because he was a great guy and a teacher. But for unknown reasons, the training wasn't too productive. Thanks for all your encouraging comments. KRnet is a great bunch of guys!! Bob Smith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:13:09 EST From: BSHADR@aol.com Subject: KR: FYI - Wood prop repair service KRNetheads: Following came across the QList. I think it is a keeper...errrrrrrr, and I hope no one ever has to contact them for this service. Randy Stein BSHADR@aol.com Soviet Monica, CA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Subj: Re: Q-LIST: Propellers Date: 98-02-03 08:41:25 EST Aymar-Demuth repairs wooden props. They fixed my cowley when I dropped it. They also make an awesome prop. The climb and cruise performance on my Revmaster increased dramatically. I have the 54x46. Great prop. Aymar-Demuth number is 410-461-4329. Elliott City, MD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 09:55:09 -0800 From: David Moore Subject: Re: KR: Jeff Scott's back surgery At 08:47 PM 2/2/98 -0700, you wrote: >Jeff Scott spent 4 hours get his vertabrae sawed on today. >I'd been wondering how it went all day long so I called his >house, his son told me he heard it went fine. > >Then about 30 min ago the phone rang and it was Jeff! He said he was >doing fine (recent shot of morphine?! :o) ..) > >He'll be in hospital til Friday, then back home, I'm sure he'd be glad to >hear from anyone out there in KR-land > >Oh yeah, I added 4 motor mount photos to my web page - close ups of >attach to Subaru cylinders. John, would you please add an http: to your signature, it makes it a whole lot easier to access. Dave Moore John Bryhan >jeb@thuntek.net http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm > Los Alamos, NM > > David Moore Turnkey1@MSComm.Com Hesperia, Calif. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 13:00:47 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Pilots certificate At 06:58 AM 2/3/98 -0600, you wrote: >>Everyone that took over 60 or 65 hours can also. That is the average. I took 73.4 hours. I understand how the process gets dragged out when time goes by.>>> OK since you guys are getting all accurate in your hours down to tenths I decided to dig out my first log book! It took me 56.8 hours to get my instructor to sign me off for the private check ride. I was lucky enough to fly at least two or three times a week and complete my training in less than 6 months, I think that helps a lot. When I was instructing it seemed that a large percentage of my students required between 60 and 80 hours, mostly because they would fly once or twice a month and made hardly any progress (80% of the flight would be review)! I had some guys come over for Switzerland and they were there just to learn how to fly, these three guys flew everyday and were ready for their check rides before they reached the required minimum hours. So flying as much is possible is obviously the key to completing your training in short order (flight hours) but what does it really mean? Nothing! There is really no such thing as wasted training! Well unless you don't come back! Always strive to have as many landings as take offs eh! :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Oh My,.......Its 1998!! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 09:43:12 -0800 From: David Moore Subject: Re: KR: sad John, I know of the grief you are suffering, several years ago I lost a good friend in an aviation accident. He was test flying his brand new creation and it stalled on takeoff and spun in. He lingered in a comma for 5 months and died of pneumonia. John, you do not need to apologize to anyone, we are all friend here and my (our) sympathy goes out to you and the family of the two who perished. God Bless You, Dave Moore At 05:54 PM 2/2/98 -0800, you wrote: >To all > >I know this has nothing to do with the KR but the people in Oregon >probably has heard about the helicopter accident that happened >Saturday. It claimed one of my pilots in my Guard unit. He was >instructing a gentleman, which he has done for the past couple of years, >in a Rotorway Exec. The tailboom came off inflight and both soles >perished. >I apologize for bringing this up but it is my way of dealing with this >manner. He was part of "our" aviation community and he will be sure >missed! > > >SGT John F. Esch >1042 Medical Company (Air Ambulance) >Crew Chief / Admin NCO >Salem, OR > > > David Moore Turnkey1@MSComm.Com Hesperia, Calif. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 16:47:16 -0800 From: "John F. Esch" Subject: Re: KR: Pilots certificate I soloed in 12.9 hours but I was signed off 62.9 hours for the check ride. This was mainly due to weather, job, and money. John F. Esch Salem, OR Micheal Mims wrote: > At 06:58 AM 2/3/98 -0600, you wrote: > >>Everyone that took over 60 or 65 hours can also. That is the > average. I > took 73.4 hours. I understand how the process gets dragged out when > time > goes by.>>> > > OK since you guys are getting all accurate in your hours down to > tenths I > decided to dig out my first log book! It took me 56.8 hours to get my > > instructor to sign me off for the private check ride. I was lucky > enough to > fly at least two or three times a week and complete my training in > less than > 6 months, I think that helps a lot. When I was instructing it seemed > that a > large percentage of my students required between 60 and 80 hours, > mostly > because they would fly once or twice a month and made hardly any > progress > (80% of the flight would be review)! > > I had some guys come over for Switzerland and they were there just to > learn > how to fly, these three guys flew everyday and were ready for their > check > rides before they reached the required minimum hours. So flying as > much is > possible is obviously the key to completing your training in short > order > (flight hours) but what does it really mean? Nothing! There is > really no > such thing as wasted training! Well unless you don't come back! > Always > strive to have as many landings as take offs eh! :o) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Oh My,.......Its 1998!! > > mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 17:26:57 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: Kitplanes Articles I just finished reading all the KR stuff in this months Kitplanes including the article about the guy and his wife looking for a used homebuilt to buy. In my opinion that guy shouldnt be looking at homebuilts but maybe a factory unit! Oh well on to better things, I really found it interesting that some of the interviewed pilots said the KR was too pitchy! Even the one guy who was a retired Air Force fighter jock said it was the most pitch sensitive airplane he had ever flown! Humm,....same ole complaints! I also found it interesting that a few of the interviewed pilots said they would like to build another KR2S but make some modifications. Humm...more head scratching. Another thing I noticed was almost everyone reported a cruise speed around 145 mph with VW power. The guy in Italy replaced the 2180VW in his KR2S with a 100 hp unit and speeds increased to over 200 mph from 135,...Humm more head scratching. Also noticed some mentioned if they did it again they would build it wider. Humm.......hair falling out now due to serious scratching. Well after reading all that you would think I would have been discouraged,..NO WAY! It actually made me smile, I am so glad my KR is longer, has a larger horizontal tail, 125hp, and is 4 to 5 inches wider!! Woo Hoo!!! Mike "Smiling Large" Mims ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Oh My,.......Its 1998!! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 19:30:10 EST From: Kr2dream@AOL.COM Subject: Re: KR: URL change, England trip Mark: I'll be in Chichester for ten days at the end of the month sharing pics of my KR-2s with my daughter and her husband's family. Beautiful country. Hope you enjoy! Bob Lasecki Generally Chicago ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 18:55:59 -0700 From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: Kitplanes Articles At 05:26 PM 2/3/98 -0800, you wrote: SNIP > >Well after reading all that you would think I would have been >discouraged,..NO WAY! It actually made me smile, I am so glad my KR is >longer, has a larger horizontal tail, 125hp, and is 4 to 5 inches wider!! >Woo Hoo!!! > >Mike "Smiling Large" Mims Hey Mike, aren't you the one I forbade to install an engine that powerful? Seriously, why all the head scratching? Cuz the folks could have made said modifications with the assistance of the KR Skunk factory? Ron Lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 18:07:34 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Kitplanes Articles At 06:55 PM 2/3/98 -0700, you wrote: >Hey Mike, aren't you the one I forbade to install an engine that powerful? > OK I will de-tune it just for you! :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Oh My,.......Its 1998!! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 19:15:57 -0800 From: Douglas Dorfmeier Subject: Re: KR: FYI - Wood prop repair service BSHADR@aol.com wrote: > > KRNetheads: > > Following came across the QList. I think it is a keeper...errrrrrrr, and I > hope no one ever has to contact them for this service. > > Randy Stein > BSHADR@aol.com > Soviet Monica, CA > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Subj: Re: Q-LIST: Propellers > Date: 98-02-03 08:41:25 EST > > Aymar-Demuth repairs wooden props. They fixed my cowley when I dropped it. > They also make an awesome prop. The climb and cruise performance on my > Revmaster increased dramatically. I have the 54x46. Great prop. > Aymar-Demuth number is 410-461-4329. Elliott City, MD Randy, What top RPM are you running your prop? I attended to use an EA81 engine with a 2.2:1 reduction that mean my top prop speed will be about 2500 RPMs. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:42:25 GMT From: bbland@busprod.com (Brian Bland) Subject: Re: KR: Kitplanes Articles On Tue, 03 Feb 1998 17:26:57 -0800, you wrote: >I just finished reading all the KR stuff in this months Kitplanes = including >the article about the guy and his wife looking for a used homebuilt to = buy. >In my opinion that guy shouldnt be looking at homebuilts but maybe a = factory >unit! > >Oh well on to better things, I really found it interesting that some of = the >interviewed pilots said the KR was too pitchy! Even the one guy who was= a >retired Air Force fighter jock said it was the most pitch sensitive = airplane >he had ever flown! Humm,....same ole complaints! I also found it >interesting that a few of the interviewed pilots said they would like to >build another KR2S but make some modifications. Humm...more head >scratching. Another thing I noticed was almost everyone reported a = cruise >speed around 145 mph with VW power. The guy in Italy replaced the = 2180VW in >his KR2S with a 100 hp unit and speeds increased to over 200 mph from >135,...Humm more head scratching. Also noticed some mentioned if they = did >it again they would build it wider. Humm.......hair falling out now due = to >serious scratching. > >Well after reading all that you would think I would have been >discouraged,..NO WAY! It actually made me smile, I am so glad my KR = is >longer, has a larger horizontal tail, 125hp, and is 4 to 5 inches = wider!! >Woo Hoo!!! > >Mike "Smiling Large" Mims > I want to see this! How do you get your Kitplanes so soon! When I used to subscribe they were on the shelves before I even got mine. I guess I will have to wait a few weeks to read this one. Just got last months issue about 3 weeks ago. AHHHHHHH! I hate waiting on the next Kitplanes. Especially after someone mentions an article I want to see!!! Brian "Patiently waiting" Bland Brian J. Bland, PP, A&P Claremore, OK Building stretched and widened KR-2S (DDT Soob)=20 Currently glueing plywood skins on fuselage KR-2SBuilder@bigfoot.com http://www.KR-2S.home.ml.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 19:47:27 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: FYI - Wood prop repair service At 07:15 PM 2/3/98 -0800, you wrote: >What top RPM are you running your prop? >I attended to use an EA81 engine with a 2.2:1 >reduction that mean my top prop speed will be about >2500 RPMs. > That was forwarded from the Qlist, I am sure Randy has no idea about the particulars. You plan to run a 2.2 to 1 reduction on a KR? I don't think you will ever see the prop RPM needed for performance. Eric Clutton's book says prop tip speed should be almost supersonic at take off and just under that at cruise. You would need to turn a 95 inch prop to get into those parameters! I think you need to consider a 1.5 to 1 ratio because a 60 inch prop is about the max for a KR. But thats just what I think! :o) PS The great Ray Hegy recommends this book! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Oh My,.......Its 1998!! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:38:52 GMT From: bbland@busprod.com (Brian Bland) Subject: Re: KR: Pilots certificate On Tue, 03 Feb 1998 16:47:16 -0800, you wrote: >Micheal Mims wrote: > >> At 06:58 AM 2/3/98 -0600, you wrote: >> >>Everyone that took over 60 or 65 hours can also. That is the >> average. I >> took 73.4 hours. I understand how the process gets dragged out when >> time >> goes by.>>> >> >> OK since you guys are getting all accurate in your hours down to >> tenths I >> decided to dig out my first log book! It took me 56.8 hours to get my >> >> instructor to sign me off for the private check ride. I was lucky >> enough to >> fly at least two or three times a week and complete my training in >> less than >> 6 months, I think that helps a lot. When I was instructing it seemed >> that a >> large percentage of my students required between 60 and 80 hours, >> mostly >> because they would fly once or twice a month and made hardly any >> progress >> (80% of the flight would be review)! >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Micheal Mims >> Oh My,.......Its 1998!! >> >> mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >> http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims > > > I started my training on 6/22/91, soloed after 5.6 hours, then took my checkride on 12/6/93 after 67.9 hours. Would've happened sooner and with less hours if I would have flown regularly and stayed with the same instructor (not by choice). Never found another instructor quite like my first one. =20 Brian J. Bland, PP, A&P Claremore, OK Building stretched and widened KR-2S (DDT Soob)=20 Currently glueing plywood skins on fuselage KR-2SBuilder@bigfoot.com http://www.KR-2S.home.ml.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 22:10:16 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Pilots certificate Bob, Say, it took me 20 years, but at 85 hours I finally made it! (PPI), I also had 12 hours in gliders from when I was 14, so total time in aircraft was 97. I had several more different instructors and have to say that the last one I had was the best. It was the first time I communicated as an equal with the instructor. I still did a lot of stupid stuff, and he told me so, but I was finally mature enough to know that if I kept at it, I would eventually figure it out. And I did. Good Luck! -- Regards Ross smithr wrote: > I am writing this in case it might help somebody who is considering > flight training. > > I think that I might be setting a worlds record for length of pilots > training. After hearing many of you say you got a certificate in less > than 50 hrs, I was discouraged when I was at 90 hours and still no > certificate. I have my final flight test scheduled for wednesday and now > have 125 flight hours at a cost of probably $7500. (Training in a 152). > No wonder my KR progress is slow, I'm too broke to buy parts. > > I attribute this long training to a few things. 1) I am the first > student to finish under my CFI. I think he is more nervous than I am. 2) > Instead of flying twice a week, I stretched it out over 24 months with > sometimes going 1 month without a lesson. 3) I found out at about 90 > hours that communication between me and my CFI stunk. I thought my > landings were good... He didn't but didn't really tell me. When I > drifted 10 ft in a crosswind landing I thought it was OK but the chief > CFI said the centerline had to stay within the wheels.4)my own stupidity > (thought I'd put this in there before one of you do) > > I will say that my flying has greatly improved over the last 25 hours. > By the way, I was flying (not landing) a KR2 at about 50 hrs. More fun > than a 152. > > Bob Smith, Albany, NY. Love to fly. Slightly discouraged but end is in > sight. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 22:23:55 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: sad John, I heard about the incident on the news, then later heard that it was a experimental chopper. I was concerned that it might be someone I knew as well. This reminds me to take things slow, and have several pairs of eyes double check things I might overlook. -- Regards Ross John F. Esch wrote: > To all > > I know this has nothing to do with the KR but the people in Oregon > probably has heard about the helicopter accident that happened > Saturday. It claimed one of my pilots in my Guard unit. He was > instructing a gentleman, which he has done for the past couple of years, > in a Rotorway Exec. The tailboom came off inflight and both soles > perished. > I apologize for bringing this up but it is my way of dealing with this > manner. He was part of "our" aviation community and he will be sure > missed! > > SGT John F. Esch > 1042 Medical Company (Air Ambulance) > Crew Chief / Admin NCO > Salem, OR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 22:28:06 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Jeff Scott's back surgery Jeb, Thanks for keeping us posted! My wife just injured her back last week, and had some MRI scans this week, nasty stuff... Hope to see Jeff this year at the KR gathering, if not... I will have to swing by NM to visit him myself. -- Regards Ross Jeb wrote: > Jeff Scott spent 4 hours get his vertabrae sawed on today. > I'd been wondering how it went all day long so I called his > house, his son told me he heard it went fine. > > Then about 30 min ago the phone rang and it was Jeff! He said he was > doing fine (recent shot of morphine?! :o) ..) > > He'll be in hospital til Friday, then back home, I'm sure he'd be glad to > hear from anyone out there in KR-land > > Oh yeah, I added 4 motor mount photos to my web page - close ups of > attach to Subaru cylinders. > > John Bryhan > jeb@thuntek.net // www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm > Los Alamos, NM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 22:37:01 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: KRnet-Archives Marcel, Send an email to majordomo@teleport.com with the body text: index KRNET-L end You will get a list of all the available archives. Sending another email with the body text get KRNET-L vxx.nyy will send you an email with the corresponding digest. John Bryhan, has a website with the files downloadable via ftp with a single click. Driessen, Marcel wrote: > Since my harddisk is getting overfilled I have to delete part of my > e-mails. > Can someone tell me where I can find the KRnet-Archives and how to acces > them. > > Thanks > > Marcel Driessen > KR2S-Builder (boat on wheels) > Meerlo, Limburg, The Netherlands > e-mail: driessen@krohne.mhs.compuserve.com ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V2 #31 ****************************