From: owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com] Sent: Friday, March 27, 1998 8:29 AM To: krnet-l-digest@teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #60 krnet-l-digest Friday, March 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 060 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 05:23:50 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: ELTs/KR-1s Hello, Netters Don Reid wrote: > >The other point I can offer is that the ELT is not required until you >leave the test area. You can avoid putting it in until have your 40 >hours flown off. > I just had to pull out the FARs to check (91.207); what it says is you don't need the ELT if you are engaged in training operations conducted entirely within a 50-NM radius of the airport from which your flight ops begin, OR while engaged in flight ops incident to design and testing. Aren't KR pilots/builders _always_ involved in design and testing?? ;o) Very interestingly in part (f)(7), you don't need an ELT for aircraft certificated by the Administrator for research and development purposes. I wonder what the definition of this certification category is-? And for all of you KR-1 guys, or KR-2s made for "generous" single pilots, you don't need an ELT at all! Just read (f)(9)- no ELT required for aircraft equipped to carry not more than one person! Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:53:08 -0800 From: MARVIN MCCOY Subject: Re: KR: tail feathers Micheal Mims wrote: > > At 10:01 PM 3/24/98 -0800, you wrote: > >The job looks great but here is the question... On the two layers of > >cloth, do I sand over the first layer and epoxy the second layer over it > >or should I have laid them both together?>>> > > Well you should do all the layups together but if you scuff sand the first > layer you should be able to weyout another layer on top of the first one.. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Proud Member of the Area 51 BBA > > ------------------------------- Yes! I would just add that I would also wipe the glass down with acetone. Marvin McCoy Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing field mr.marvin@worldnet.att.net - --------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 15:59:43 GMT From: mathewrz@iafrica.com (Rob Matthews) Subject: KR: Fiberglass upside down Hi All Many thanks for all the info passed on the above subject. I managed to glass the piece in and used two boards with wax paper, and clamped them on the bottom and the top. It came out very well except there are about 3 small places where i think i am going to have to fill up with resin/ microfill where it has missed the foam and has a small type of air bubble (not a proper air bubble but close. I guess that i am going to have to cut open the inboard spar for the fixed gear. These are the sacrifices one must do to have piece of mind not having a gear failure as the retract system has attached to it. Regards - -- Rob Matthews Have a nice day South Africa email mathewrz@iafrica.com KR 2 ZS-VCM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:14:46 -0500 From: msharkey@softarc.com (Mike Sharkey) Subject: KR: Re: owner-krnet-l@teleport.com writes: >I don't have the old newsletters at the moment, but there was an >accident report (fatal) where flutter was suspected. As I recall, the >KR in question was doing a show pass, and was exceeding 230 or 240. >Again, I am just going by vague memory. The plane sort of >disintegrated, from the reports. As I understand it, that's what >flutter does- just gets out of control in split-seconds. > >If you Vne your bird accordingly, and/or even partially balance, I guess >it would put flutter out of reach; otherwise, IMHO- when you get out >into the 200+ range, it would be wise to balance. Last summer I witnessed a composite glider develop flutter while doing a high speed pass at or near VNE, we all though for that instant that the plane would disintigrate, that's what it looked like it was about to do, the tail was oscillating (read bending), I would estimate 1 - 1.5 feet from side to side (some other witnesses say 2 - 3 feet), for about a second, mabey 2 seconds, and made one hellatious sound. The guy had done this many times before, but this time he didn't notice during preflight that his rudder bushings where beginning to wear a bit, causing some slop in the rudder hinge, enough to get it oscillating I guess. Anyway, he had to change his shorts. I guess if you're planning on pushing VNE, you should probably do a really good preflight inspection around the control surfaces in particular. Mike Sharkey X11 Development SoftArc Inc. http://www.softarc.com/~msharkey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:13:19 +0200 From: "Andre' Johnson" Subject: KR: Re: Tail feather balance Hi Marvin The accident that Oscar is most probably referring to happened during the first National KR fly-in that was held at Arizona It was a GB-1 that had crashed an not a KR 2. (both aircraft very similar) The aircraft was also build in a record time of 24 Days !! Most of the parts used was prefabricated as well as part of other projects.( i.e.. KR2 main spar) The accident took place early Sunday morning with wind 15 to 20 knots and gusting. The GB-1 they were flying seemed to explode in mid-air as they were about to make a high speed fly past. The FAA and NTSB conducted a investigation and revealed the following : 1- Pilot exceeded airframe Vne limits in extreme turbulent wind conditions - 220 to 240 mph 2- Aileron flutter occurred and aileron weight came off 3- Canopy separated due to the vibrations & fluttering 4- Center forwardspar broke 5- Aircraft disintegrated All the above took place in a matter of 1 to 2 seconds Newsletter issue 73 dated July 1981 Regards Andre' Johnson From a sunny South-Africa abacus@tn.co.za - ---------- > From: Oscar Zuniga > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Subject: KR: Tail feather balance > Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 3:04 PM > > Hi, Marvin > > You wrote: > >All of the newsletters I have read have not mentioned any KRs that > >developed flutter in the elevator or rudder. > > I don't have the old newsletters at the moment, but there was an > accident report (fatal) where flutter was suspected. As I recall, the > KR in question was doing a show pass, and was exceeding 230 or 240. > Again, I am just going by vague memory. The plane sort of > disintegrated, from the reports. As I understand it, that's what > flutter does- just gets out of control in split-seconds. > > If you Vne your bird accordingly, and/or even partially balance, I guess > it would put flutter out of reach; otherwise, IMHO- when you get out > into the 200+ range, it would be wise to balance. > > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, Oregon > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:14:25 -0800 From: Robert Covington Subject: Re: KR: Tail feather balance > >If you Vne your bird accordingly, and/or even partially balance, I guess >it would put flutter out of reach; otherwise, IMHO- when you get out >into the 200+ range, it would be wise to balance. > >Oscar Zuniga >Medford, Oregon I asked Jeannette Rand about this one time, and her reply was that I shouldn't be going over 200 MPH ( it is the Vne) but if I planned to get near there that I should balance the elevator for additional safety and perhaps rudder also (I think she mentioned the rudder). Robert Covington 2S sides on a table, nothing getting done. Time to move. (But BFR is done. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:50:50 -0700 From: "Adrian H. Carter" Subject: Re: KR: Tail feather balance Oscar Zuniga wrote: > Hi, Marvin > > You wrote: > >All of the newsletters I have read have not mentioned any KRs that > >developed flutter in the elevator or rudder. > > I don't have the old newsletters at the moment, but there was an > accident report (fatal) where flutter was suspected. As I recall, the > KR in question was doing a show pass, and was exceeding 230 or 240. > Again, I am just going by vague memory. The plane sort of > disintegrated, from the reports. As I understand it, that's what > flutter does- just gets out of control in split-seconds. > > If you Vne your bird accordingly, and/or even partially balance, I guess > it would put flutter out of reach; otherwise, IMHO- when you get out > into the 200+ range, it would be wise to balance. > > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, Oregon > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Hi Guys, Reason you don't read about it is because it really is not a concern unless you plan on very high speeds. I have often done decents from 10-12k at 200-210mph without any flutter of the tailfeathers, although I was on edge and ready in case I got a blurp of any kind. The ailerons were balanced with 16oz. each side. No I do not think that this is really something that one should worry about unless your doing these speeds. Happy Flying! - -- Adrian VE6AFY cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:09:58 +0000 From: Dave Wallis Subject: KR: Fixed Gear Brackets Needed in UK! Fellow KR-Netters Our KR is sick - indeed grounded! During its annual airworthiness inspection, a crack was found on one of the brackets holding the gear onto the spar, the bracket also shows evidence of previous (bodged) adjustment of the kind usually achieved with a large hammer. Our feathers have been clipped until we can satisfy the inspector that the legs have been properly reattached. If anyone knows of a pair of fixed gear brackets surplus to requirements we would be very grateful. - -- Dave Wallis and Dave Howell Rand KR2 G-BMMD Based Worcestershire, England ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:36:12 -0500 From: Bob Vermeulen Subject: RE: KR: Sun and Fun - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5814.82269A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Muse [SMTP:bmuse@mindspring.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 12:24 AM To: krnet-l@teleport.com Subject: Re: KR: Sun and Fun At 05:22 AM 3/21/98 +0000, you wrote: >If there would be enough interest, we would be glad to host an Airport >BBQ for KR folks at our trailer on April 20 after the display buildings >close at 5:00 pm. We travel with a grill and could furnish hot dogs, >polish sausage etc... brewskies and pop. Steve > Did somebody say food???? I should be there, provided we get VFR between Michigan and Florida on the 19th. Should have some ??? about glassing when I see some of you guys with experience. BTW, does anybody know how to get a hold of Steve Makish? E-mail or phone. 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------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5814.82269A00-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:24:52 +0000 From: Great Plains Aircraft Subject: Re: KR: End stages I believe that if an aircraft does not have an electrical system it can still fly legally in a TERSA ARSA or TCA (old terms) by obtaining an exemption certificate from the controling FAA Tower. I had one for my Piper Colt and flew in the Chicago/Ohara TCA all the time. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:27:07 +0000 From: Great Plains Aircraft Subject: Re: KR: Exhaust systems Nothing! the two into one is usually used on taildraggers and the 4-1 is used on Tri-gears. Performance is the same. Steve GPASC Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:31:51 +0000 From: Great Plains Aircraft Subject: Re: KR: Re: I believe what is being refered to is a prototype KR look alike that was built and flown around 1980. I can't remember the name but the aircraft was not a KR. It did have airleron flutter - BUT - at 230mph at an early California KR fly-in in very windy weather. The aircraft was built in about 3 months. I believe that the pilot and girlfriend died in crash. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:25:43 -0500 From: Tom Andersen Subject: KR: Incidence angle at cruise on VE6AFY To Adrian and our other KR-2 fliers, Would you tell us what incidence angle your plane flies at by placing a level and protractor on your upper longeron at various throttle settings? I'm approaching the commit point on incidence angle and could use some hard data for making my decision. I don't plan on using any washout, I'm counting on stall strips exactly like the Glasair uses, so I can't go with 3 degrees. - -Tom in Orlando ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:13:37 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Tail feather balance At 09:19 PM 3/24/98 -0800, you wrote: >Has anyone ever heard of a KR developing flutter in the elevator or >rudder?? The plans only show the ailerons being balanced. I was >thinking of balancing the elevator. But if it is not needed it would >save about three pounds in the tail. > I am not sure if the plans do not balance the elevator and rudder >because they do not need it or maybe they were never blanced to just >save weight in the tail. I don't know? I wonder if the rudder and >elevator was ever analyzed to determine if balancing is needed?? > All of the newsletters I have read have not mentioned any KRs that >developed flutter in the elevator or rudder. It would be nice if >balancing is not needed. > >Marvin McCoy >Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing field >mr.marvin@worldnet.att.net >---------------------------- > As far I know, there has never been an inflight structural failure or a accident due to design error. I have been well over 200mph and my tail feathers are not balanced. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:13:40 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: tail feathers At 10:31 PM 3/24/98 -0800, you wrote: >At 10:01 PM 3/24/98 -0800, you wrote: >>The job looks great but here is the question... On the two layers of >>cloth, do I sand over the first layer and epoxy the second layer over it >>or should I have laid them both together?>>> > >Well you should do all the layups together but if you scuff sand the first >layer you should be able to weyout another layer on top of the first one.. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims > Also, if you use peel-ply on the area to be overlapped when wetting out the first layup, you can then remove the peel-ply and complete the second layup with little or no sanding. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:19:22 -0500 From: Tom Andersen Subject: KR: 1/4 Scale KR-2 model Steven A Eberhart wrote: > I am still planning on building a giant scale radio control KR-2S. Next > time I talk to Ashok I will see if it would be possible to run the > fuselage through the wind tunnel. I don't even want to think what the > stinger is going to be to build but it must be able to be done. > > Steve Steve, I've already done the reduction of the airfoils on a large size copier down to 1/4 scale. You are welcome to a set if you like. The fuselage plan is 1/4 scale already, and would best be cut from 1/4" balsa sheeting. Only the root and tip airfoils are needed, and Wing Manufacturing will custom cut foam cores. I figure a constant chord piece for the center section and two wing panels could be balsa sheeted and joined with 4oz or even 2oz glass at each joint. With a 72" span it ought to weigh about 12 lbs with a 1.08 Weedeater motor (gasoline ignition) which I pulled out of my lawn trimmer. Now all I need is a spare 100 hours or so. - -Tom in Orlando ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:28:12, -0500 From: YCGB97A@prodigy.com (MR JEAN R VERON) Subject: Re: KR: End stages Before you lay out the money for a Terra transponder see if you can find a satisfied owner. Mike Ladigo never got his to work in his KR-2. Bench tested fine every time but would only work intermitanly in the air. Had several other owners have the same experience in plastic airplanes. I have a Cessna (ARC) transponder with a Ameri-King encoder and it works fine. Martin Roberts has a Narco transponder with an ACK encoder and it works fine. Have not found a satisfied Terra owner. Jean N4DD ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:42:46 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: End stages At 08:28 PM 3/25/98 -0500, you wrote: > Have not found a satisfied Terra owner. >Jean >N4DD > > Now that is some good info! Thanks! I was thinking about looking for an old used unit and have the altitude reporting capability added. That's assuming there are any old ones to be had out there. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:55:23, -0500 From: YCGB97A@prodigy.com (MR JEAN R VERON) Subject: Re: KR: End stages Mike I went to the local radio shop and ask for a used transponder. The Cessna unit he had was just like new with tray and harnes yellow tagged, I paid $500. I bought the encoder from Chief Aircraft at Sun- N-Fun when 4 of us went to see what cind of buy we could get on GPS's. Paid $450 for GPS and $140 for encoder. You guys might get together and shop together. Incedently Chief was the only one that would bargan. One of the other guys bought about $1500 worth og stuff and got better prices on everything. Jean N4DD ( engine almost complete, upper cowl mold done ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:27:04 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Tail feather balance At 09:14 AM 3/25/98 -0800, you wrote: >Robert Covington > >2S sides on a table, nothing getting done. >Time to move. (But BFR is done. ;) > Robert dude,..just give it up and give me your wood for my next project! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:56:32 -0800 From: Peter Hudson Subject: Re: KR: 1/4 Scale KR-2 model Steve, Sounds like fun. I built a 4 ft span KR-2 model and had a blast with it. I'd suggest all white "monokote" and regular plastic tape for trim. That way you can try out all sorts of color schemes for you full size bird. Incidently I found that the KR-2 model with a 30% CG would flat spin all the way to ground (no recovery technique worked) It didn't suffer damage at impact so I spen several days climbing and spinning to the ground just to see if I could sort out a recovery technique which would work. I imagine a starting a spin test in my real KR might be to much adreniline to handle now. > > Steven A Eberhart wrote: > > I am still planning on building a giant scale radio control KR-2S. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:14:03 EST From: RFreibe131 Subject: KR: Terra transponder Sorry to see the bad press about Terra transponders because I need one to match the rest of my Terra system. Please steer me straight or tell me if someone wants to sell me theirs... Also desperate to buy a pair of HAPI rudder pedals..... next week I'm gonna give up and start rolling my own. HELP! Ron F KR@+/- in Fort Myers ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:16:45 EST From: MikeT nyc Subject: Re: KR: End stages >Before you lay out the money for a Terra transponder see if you can >find a satisfied owner. Mike Ladigo never got his to work in his KR-2. > Bench tested fine every time but would only work intermitanly in the >air. Had several other owners have the same experience in plastic >airplanes. Considering that this is one of the more popular transponders around, it's a little hard to believe none of them work right in composite planes. Could it be these unsatisfied owners didn't get the mounting or antenna right? Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:05:05 PST From: "Rogerio Werneck" Subject: Re: KR: PT-ZMJ >I got many interesting informations from Mr. Macedo. His address is: > >Agliberto Fernandes de Macedo >Rua Alexandre Fleming, 106 >Guaratinguet=E0 - SP 12500-000 >Tel/fax: (012)522-4278 > >Saluti, Alessandro > Tchau Alessandro, Thanx for the info, I am sure that talking to Mr. Macedo will be very helpful. (i called him up but could not find him home... i am patience :-) Rogerio Werneck ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:27:11 From: Austin Clark Subject: Re: KR: Double checking At 22:45 3/24/98 -0600, you wrote: > >Austin that don t sound right the guy i went flying with is going to get >me the dimension of his AA1 grumman next time he gos flying and I lett you >know Terry Chizek >---------- It dont sound right to me either. I wonder if they meant 46" instead of 64". Austin Clark Pascagoula, MS itac@datasync.com http://www.datasync.com/~itac/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:35:13 -0800 (PST) From: enewbold@sprynet.com Subject: Re: KR: Business Trip Advice (no archive) I'll be gone to Trumbull, CT, on business for the next two weeks and don't want my e-mail box to get plugged up -- so, does anyone remember how to subscribe/unsubscribe to krnet? Thanks, Ed Newbold Columbus, OH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:22:20 -0600 From: "Thomas J. Towle" Subject: Re: KR: Business Trip Advice (no archive) enewbold@sprynet.com wrote: > > I'll be gone to Trumbull, CT, on business for the next two weeks and don't want > my e-mail box to get plugged up -- so, does anyone remember how to > subscribe/unsubscribe to krnet? > > Thanks, > Ed Newbold > Columbus, OH Ed...go to "majordomo@teleport.com" and find how to unsubscribe. Tom T. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:56:28 EST From: BSHADR Subject: KR: KRNet subscribe/unsubscribe info KRNetters: Sorry for this static, but my Email directly to Ed came back... Randy Stein |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Send an email to mailto:majordomo@teleport.com with the body text: (subject line can be anything) unsubscribe krnet-l myaddress@mycomputer.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:59:05 -0700 From: "Adrian H. Carter" Subject: Re: KR: Incidence angle at cruise on VE6AFY Tom Andersen wrote: > To Adrian and our other KR-2 fliers, > Would you tell us what incidence angle your plane flies at by placing a > level and protractor on your upper longeron at various throttle > settings? I'm approaching the commit point on incidence angle and could > use some hard data for making my decision. I don't plan on using any > washout, I'm counting on stall strips exactly like the Glasair uses, so > I can't go with 3 degrees. > -Tom in Orlando Hi Tom & KRNetters I thought that 3 deg was more that I wanted to put in. Putting a level on longerons when canopy closed is a no go and why should this be a concern, build it and fly the damn thing. Take a look on my homepage and you will see the details. Happy Flying!! - -- Adrian VE6AFY cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:36:53 -0800 From: Robert Covington Subject: Re: KR: Tail feather balance and Deal (no archive) >At 09:14 AM 3/25/98 -0800, you wrote: >>Robert Covington >> >>2S sides on a table, nothing getting done. >>Time to move. (But BFR is done. ;) >> > >Robert dude,..just give it up and give me your wood for my next project! >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims >SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! Man, that's cold! Tell you whut, Mike. I will give you my wood plus $5,000 for your plane when it is done. ;) I'll even throw in all the bad gussets I have left over. Plus the hardened epoxy that is left over too. And, for this week only, I'll even throw in a few of the shop's burnt up band saw blades. ($#& RV Builder's :) Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:48:07 EST From: KRkip Subject: Re: KR: End stages In regards to the tera transponders i have been using one in my KR for 5years and it has always worked great. KR kip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:32:00 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Balancing At 10:27 AM 3/21/98 -0800, you wrote: >Jeffrey E Scott wrote: > >> >> If your wood prop is causing vibration, you may want to consider sending >> it back to the manufacturer to have the blades matched and properly >> balanced. It's better to start with the prop itself in proper balance >> then to try to compensate a poorly balanced prop by dynamically >> balancing. Dynamic balancing is setting up to run smoothest at a >> specific rpm. >> >Tom Crawford >tomc@afn.org >Gainesville, FL >N262TC 18 hours and counting. 40 by Sun & Fun or Bust. >I dont think my friend plans to charge $100.00, but even at that price, >it would be worth it if it smoothes out the top end. > Tom, What is the name and address of your friend? Can I get mine Prop balanced while enroute to Sun'N'Fun? Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:45:06 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: End stages At 08:28 PM 3/25/98 -0500, you wrote: >Before you lay out the money for a Terra transponder see if you can >find a satisfied owner. Mike Ladigo never got his to work in his KR-2. > Bench tested fine every time but would only work intermitanly in the >air. Had several other owners have the same experience in plastic >airplanes. I have a Cessna (ARC) transponder with a Ameri-King >encoder and it works fine. Martin Roberts has a Narco transponder >with an ACK encoder and it works fine. Have not found a satisfied >Terra owner. >Jean >N4DD > I am a very satisflied owner!!!!!! I have been flying with the Terra transponder in my KR for over four years. I have never had any problems. I would reccommend the Terra transponder to everyone. I have flown in controlled airspace from Florida to Oshkosh, from Ohio to Texas with no problems except once in Atlanta(weak signal because I had oil built-up on the attenna). I use a alumnium foil ground plane under the seat and the standard attenna that comes with the radio, a trouble free installation. I would suggest to everyone to get in touch with a dissatisflied Terra owner and purchase the equipment. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:33:20, -0500 From: YCGB97A@prodigy.com (MR JEAN R VERON) Subject: KR: Fixed Gear Brackets Needed in UK! Dave & Dave I talked to tom I talked to Tom Diehl today. He said that they would sell the upper gear brackets seperatly ( $60 each + shipping ). He would have to know if it is for a tail dragger or tri-gear. Hope this helps. Jean N4DD Broken Arrow, OK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:05:20 -0500 From: "Richard Parker" Subject: KR: Re: Kip, Were having Young Eagles at EEN on Sunday from 10-5 with lots of static displays.Staggewings, glasair's etc. I'm sure everyone would love to see your KR2 The advertising has been pretty good, were expecting about 1000 people. from the community, not flying in) Plus I could trade you a ride in my boring Archer for a ride in your KR2 Richard Parker Jaffrey, NH theparkers@monad.net http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:43:54 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: End stages At 05:48 PM 3/26/98 EST, you wrote: >In regards to the tera transponders i have been using one in my KR for 5years >and it has always worked great. KR kip > Word from the EZ and Dragonflyers in my area is they have all had nothing but good experiences. Humm,............... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 04:16:31 PST From: "Rogerio Werneck" Subject: Re: KR: Business Trip Advice (no archive) >I'll be gone to Trumbull, CT, on business for the next two weeks and don't want >my e-mail box to get plugged up -- so, does anyone remember how to >subscribe/unsubscribe to krnet? > >Thanks, >Ed Newbold >Columbus, OH Hi Ed, here is the e-mail Majordomo@lists.teleport.com to unsubscribe send a mesage with the folowing body unsubscribe * you@yourisp.com this will unsubscribe you from all lists you are in (in this server of course) note that you only have to put your e-mail if the message comes from an address diferent of yours (if the mesagem is sent from a friends e-mail) to subscribe take a look @ www.krnet.org have a nice trip Rogerio Werneck ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:39:38 -0800 From: Tom Crawford Subject: Re: KR: Balancing Bobby Muse wrote: > > At 10:27 AM 3/21/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Jeffrey E Scott wrote: > > > >> > >> If your wood prop is causing vibration, you may want to consider sending > >> it back to the manufacturer to have the blades matched and properly > >> balanced. It's better to start with the prop itself in proper balance > >> then to try to compensate a poorly balanced prop by dynamically > >> balancing. Dynamic balancing is setting up to run smoothest at a > >> specific rpm. > >> > >Tom Crawford > >tomc@afn.org > >Gainesville, FL > >N262TC 18 hours and counting. 40 by Sun & Fun or Bust. > >I dont think my friend plans to charge $100.00, but even at that price, > >it would be worth it if it smoothes out the top end. > > > > Tom, What is the name and address of your friend? Can I get mine Prop > balanced while enroute to Sun'N'Fun? > > Bobby Muse(N122B) > bmuse@mindspring.com > Wimberly, TX Bobby, His name is Richard, and he runs RC aircraft in Keystone, FL- although he lives here in Gainesville. He says the machine is small and portable, and ha offered to bring it over to my hanger this weekend to do mine. You have to fly right over GNV to get to S&F, might as well stop and say hi. I will let you know how mine turns out. Tom Crawford tomc@afn.org Gainesville, FL N262TC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:33:19 -0500 From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR: Business Trip Advice (no archive) > From: Rogerio Werneck > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Subject: Re: KR: Business Trip Advice (no archive) > Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 7:16 AM > > > >I'll be gone to Trumbull, CT, on business for the next two weeks and > don't want > >my e-mail box to get plugged up -- so, does anyone remember how to > >subscribe/unsubscribe to krnet? > > > >Thanks, > >Ed Newbold > >Columbus, OH > > > Hi Ed, > > here is the e-mail Majordomo@lists.teleport.com > to unsubscribe send a mesage with the folowing body > > unsubscribe * you@yourisp.com Then open up a free hotmail account and subcribe using that address. Then you can check your KR-net e-mail while you are "on the road" (unless you need a break from it) Rich Parker theparkers@monad.net and Richontheroad@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 06:34:01 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Cowling Hello, Netters; To Dave Moore and others who were interested in a DXF or DWG file of 3-views of the stock KR cowling, I had good intentions! I talked to Paul Martin about going out to photograph his cowling (new, still in the box) against a nice solid background. My idea was to then scan the photos, image them into ACAD, and draw overlay outlines which I could then properly scale and bring in to experiment with various engine and mount configurations. Still plan to do it, but this week has been filled with one crisis after another (clients always feel that their "special" project is a crisis if you don't jump on it and leave everything else in a pile on the floor). So... I will sooner or later get out to Paul's and do that. Meanwhile, I can report that he is steadily working away at his bird. He is getting a new exhaust system after having to cut out part of the one he had on it in order to accommodate the nosewheel. He decided not to try rewelding and reshaping the pieces. He also got his main gear glassed in (upside down on your back, right Paul?) and I think has gotten the engine instruments and some electrics redone. As you know, there is to be a fly-in here in Medford in June, so I think he doesn't want to have to trailer his bird to static display! ;o) More later. Working on the CD-ROM too. Regards, Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:32:13 -0500 From: Chris Gardiner Subject: Re: KR: 1/4 Scale KR-2 model While pondering my decision to build a full scale KR2S in 1993, I built and flew a quarter scale KR2S. Engine was a .75 ASP two stroke , gross weight is 8 lbs.,72in span. If anyone is interested , I'll send some photos to the KR newsletter for "filler". I don't have a scanner, sorry. Glad to now be working on the real thing! Regards Chris Gardiner Ontario,Canada KR2S boat ,with tail ready to start glassing this spring. At 07:19 PM 3/25/98 -0500, you wrote: >Steven A Eberhart wrote: >> I am still planning on building a giant scale radio control KR-2S. Next >> time I talk to Ashok I will see if it would be possible to run the >> fuselage through the wind tunnel. I don't even want to think what the >> stinger is going to be to build but it must be able to be done. >> >> Steve > >Steve, >I've already done the reduction of the airfoils on a large size copier >down to 1/4 scale. You are welcome to a set if you like. The fuselage >plan is 1/4 scale already, and would best be cut from 1/4" balsa >sheeting. Only the root and tip airfoils are needed, and Wing >Manufacturing will custom cut foam cores. I figure a constant chord >piece for the center section and two wing panels could be balsa sheeted >and joined with 4oz or even 2oz glass at each joint. With a 72" span it >ought to weigh about 12 lbs with a 1.08 Weedeater motor (gasoline >ignition) which I pulled out of my lawn trimmer. Now all I need is a >spare 100 hours or so. >-Tom in Orlando > > 0000,0000,ffffChris Gardiner......................... Client Service Manager................. Schlumberger RMS...... 905 813 5009 voice 905 858 9473 FAX E mail..gardiner@mississauga.em.slb.com OR clgard@netcom.ca ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V2 #60 ****************************