From: owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com] Sent: Friday, July 10, 1998 8:56 PM To: krnet-l-digest@teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #116 krnet-l-digest Friday, July 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 116 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:49:35 EDT From: miketnyc@juno.com (Michael Taglieri) Subject: Re: KR: Stabilizer enlargement/strakes/mount >Mike, >GO FOR THE STRAKES. No increase in frontal area, minimal weight, cool >looks. >It's practically free stability. It's the next best thing to a longer >tail. >Maybe they'll even reduce the polywog appearance. >When I saw the 1/4 scale model with just the the enlarged stab on it >and my >cut-down elevators, I was scared to fly it. With the large strakes >and >regular elevators, it should be ok. The KR-2S tail reminds me of the >race >planes of the 30's. They are all cut down to go fast, but they are >compromised in stability. This, of course, is the point: the KR stabilizer is on the small side in order to reduce drag and go fast. By increasing it, you are choosing to build a less pitch-sensitive plane that will not go fast, or at least will not go anywhere near as fast as the stock plane on the stock horsepower. This is a choice for the builder to make, but realize that you are making that choice. Mike Taglieri - ------------------------------------------------ 'Mine goes up to 11' - ------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:49:35 EDT From: miketnyc@juno.com (Michael Taglieri) Subject: Re: KR: when do you? The latest issue (or the one before that) of EAA Experimenter had a lengthy article on decontaminating metal before epoxying it. Proper treatment (which is rather involved) can increase joint strength several times. The article dismissed the need to worry about decontaminating wood, because almost any reasonably normal epoxy joint is stronger than spruce. I think it also said that painting wood with T-88 will protect it better and longer than varnish will. Mike Taglieri - ------------------------------------------------ 'Mine goes up to 11' - ------------------------------------------------ >> > Fingerprints contaminating the wood? I think epoxy would bond >into >> > the wood joint >> > over a fingerprint, and be stronger than the same joint, if it was >> > previously coated with >> > epoxy. >> >> FYI, I used an electric palm sander with very light sand paper and >hit >> all the interior surfaces before I painted on a coat of epoxy. This >to >> remove any oil and sweat from my hands. I also thinned the epoxy >with >> alcohol and it worked GREAT! > >Mike, > >How much alcohol did you use per ??? > >Is it better if you just drink it before you start? > > >Ron Rheude >KR-2 in work! >srheude@erols.com > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:49:35 EDT From: miketnyc@juno.com (Michael Taglieri) Subject: Re: KR: interesting info How about forwarding this to Avemco and see what they reply? There may be another side to it, and hearsay stories often tend to come up short on the facts. Mike Taglieri - ------------------------------------------------ 'Mine goes up to 11' - ------------------------------------------------ > The utility company is after him for >>$75,000, Allstate wants their money back on the home repair and >AVEMCO is >not willing to get anywhere near the joker... >> > >This is not the first time I have heard of AVEMCO trying to back out >of >their liability. There was a fishing lodge across the street from my >old >house that crashed a Beaver and killed 4 high profile people (owned >logging companies) and AVEMCO tried every trick in the book to get out >of >paying, actually there still trying! Its been four years now and >AVEMCO is >trying to prove the Beaver is a dangerous airplane. This after failed >attempts at proving the pilot was incompetent, the pilot training >provided >by the lodge was inadequate, the AI who signed off the annual was >incompetent and deliberately skipped ADs, and something else. Another >hunter who was fully insured by AVEMCO for off airport operations,.. >crashed >his cub taking off from a remote strip and killed himself and >passenger. >AVEMCO never paid, they said the pilot was incompetent to operate from >the >remote strip. I sure hope that all insurance companies arent like >this! I >don't know who I will go with but its kinda scary thinking you could >be >wasting your money and operating with a false sense of security. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 04:16:04 -0700 From: "Benny Skyn" Subject: KR: Hub for 1700 t 4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BDABB9.742197E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My engine is back from the cleaners. Everything looks good and I'm eager = to go, however, before the balencing can be done, I need a hub. The = engine is a 1972 vw 1700 type 4. Any thoughts on where I may obtain one = would be greatly appreciated. Help!!! - ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BDABB9.742197E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My engine is back from the cleaners. = Everything=20 looks good and I'm eager to go, however, before the balencing can be = done, I=20 need a hub. The engine is a 1972 vw 1700 type 4. Any thoughts on where I = may=20 obtain one would be greatly appreciated. = Help!!!
- ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BDABB9.742197E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:57:04 -0400 From: Tom Andersen Subject: Re: KR: elevator trim feedback John, Many of the retract servos aren't proportional at all, especially the 190 degree servos. It's an independent thing. I think some of the sail winch servos with the arm would be good, but they're kinda pricey. - -Tom John F. Esch wrote: > Just had a thought and have one of these. How about a R/C gear retract > servo. They are hard to move by hand when no power is applied, but that > might be a bad idea though. I think they have a 108 degree of travel > too and loads of torgue. > > John F. Esch > Salem, OR > > Tom Andersen wrote: > > > Mark, > > I thought that somewhere I saw a requirement for a trim position > > indicator if > > you could not see the trim position from the cockpit. If you had your > > trim tab > > improperly set for takeoff it could cause a trim stall, no? Without a > > trim > > indicator, couldn't you get yourself in trouble blindly trimming out > > some kind > > of a problem? I want to be able to see the same trim position every > > time for > > solo, dual, solo with full fuel, dual with full fuel. I'll be marking > > trim > > settings and noting differences as an indication of CG changes or > > problems. I'm > > just that an*l about trimming. > > Anyway, I like the mechanical trim position indicator because of the > > backup > > service. If that cheapo servo motor burns out, the gears can still be > > moved > > manually with enough force. That brings to mind another point. You > > really > > don't want to use a coreless motor servo for this task. Generally, > > they turn > > very smoothly, and that could be too smooth to hold position with no > > voltage to > > the motor as the usual R/C operation will provide. So the cheaper the > > servo, > > the better for this application. I would think that a ball-bearing > > output shaft > > would be nice though for durability. I really like the 1/4 Mega by > > Hitec. > > Extra large servo gears, arms, everything. It's hard to turn the > > gears by hand > > too. Huge 249 in/oz torque. I use one on my radio-control lawnmower > > to steer > > the front wheel. Pics coming someday. > > -Tom > > > > Mark Langford wrote: > > > > > ServoHeads, > > > > > > You guys are gonna hate this, but it simplifies things a bit ( a > > good > > > thing). When Jim Hill and I visited Troy Petteway he had buried > > some kind > > > of Hi-tec servo in his h/s for his elevator. The subject came up of > > > > > indication of where it was set and we had the following discussion. > > I > > > mentioned that my stupid Pioneer CD player in my car has a volume > > knob, but > > > the display shows the the level (0-25) that you just set the volume > > to for > > > about 10 seconds. Well, I'm sorry, but I don't use numbers to set > > my stereo > > > volume, I use my ears, and I wish that display wouldn't be there so > > I could > > > see what cool station is playing such fine music. My point is, > > don't you > > > trim by feel? Granted, it would be nice to set it to nuetral (or > > > somewhere ) for takeoff, but that should be part of the preflight. > > And if > > > you screw up and forget, is it gonna keep you from taking off? I > > don't > > > think so. Not to put a damper on things. I may very well do > > exactly > > > whatever you guys decide to do (indications and all) but it might > > save a > > > little complexity and weight not to worry about indication > > feedback. I hope > > > somebody publishes the end result of this debate you guys are > > having, so I > > > can implement it on mine soon... > > > > > > Mark Langford > > > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > > > KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 05:29:16 PDT From: "Richard Parker" Subject: KR: Re: Diehl >I seriously thinking of going with Dan Diehl of RR for wing skins. Hopefully, >by the time I will need them someone would be selling skins for AS 5045:-) > >Haris Does he publish a cut sheet on the details? And how do I get it? I believe the wing is not the same size as the plans wing. Richard E. Parker Jaffrey, NH richontheroad@hotmail.com http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:49:01 EDT From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Re: Diehl In a message dated 98-07-10 08:29:51 EDT, Richard E. Parker writes: > Does he publish a cut sheet on the details? And how do I get it? > I believe the wing is not the same size as the plans wing. The KR-2S wing plans are based on the Diehl wing skin design. The spars are extended and tapered differently than the stock KR-2 wings. You can reach Dan Diehl at (918) 299-4445, fax 299-4425. Cheers, Rick Junkin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 11:14:02 EDT From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: KR: Re: KR gathering-Perry In a message dated 98-07-08 01:25:34 EDT, Bruce Toscano writes: > Just made my reservations today for Sept 18, 19 and 20th for Perry. > Haven't seen a post on the krnet about the "schedule" for each day or > when things begin, etc. Did I miss it? > > Could you send me this information when it becomes available? > > Thanks so much . . . been looking forward to doing this for over a year! I talked with Don Betchan this week, and the schedule is beginning to gell for the Gathering. In general, Friday will be an informal arrival day, with a barbeque and hangar talk in the evening. Saturday will be filled with flying/rides, flying contests, flying/rides, seminars on fiberglass layup techniques (Mark Langford), vacuum bagging techniques (Brian Bland), flight testing (Rick Junkin), aero design modification considerations (Steve Eberhart), VW engine build-up (Steve Bennet, this will be an all day event), and potentially a discussion on Subaru engines. More flying/rides, discussions with pilots/builders, flying/rides, pictures, and did I mention flying/rides? There will be a fly-mart area, so bring all those parts that you can't use. The recognition banquet is planned for Saturday night. Sunday will be the departure day with no formal agenda. I'll be talking to Don again this weekend to work out the final details, and then post a flyer on my web page. I'll be out of town all of next month, so everything should be cast in concrete (or very nearly so) by the end of July. Don't forget to visit Brian Bland's page to preregister for the event to help us get a head count for the Friday night BBQ and Saturday banquet. I'll let y'all know as soon as I have more solid details. Accomodations are available at the Best Western Cherokee Strip, (580) 336-2218. I'm looking forward to seeing everyone there again this year! Cheers! Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com St. Charles MO ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:25:52 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Hub for 1700 t 4 Benny Skyn wrote: > > My engine is back from the cleaners. Everything looks good and I'm > eager to go, however, before the balencing can be done, I need a hub. > The engine is a 1972 vw 1700 type 4. Any thoughts on where I may > obtain one would be greatly appreciated. Help!!! Get one from Steve at Great Plains, he has the best one around but you will need to do some machining to make it fit, its not just a bolt on operation. - -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,.. Filling and sanding now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:09:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Ken Combs Subject: KR: DeFreze Retractable Tricycle Gear Conversion Does anyone have any experience with the DeFreze conversion? I bought a "project" that included the drawings and instructions for the conversation. It appears that the original builder (deceased) had started to modify the stock retracts but had not touched the fuselage. Before I go any farther I want to determine if there were problems with the conversation and if anyone is still using it. I may just go with fixed tri-gear if I cannot learn any more about this option. Ken Combs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:22:06 EDT From: miketnyc@juno.com (Michael Taglieri) Subject: Re: KR: elevator trim feedback >My point is, don't >you >trim by feel? Granted, it would be nice to set it to nuetral (or >somewhere ) for takeoff, but that should be part of the preflight. >And if >you screw up and forget, is it gonna keep you from taking off? I >don't >think so. Exactly. When I'm doing touch & goes, the only time I use the little indicator to set the trim is the first time, and that's only because Cessna put it in the preflight checklist. All my later takeoffs I trim by feel and it doesn't affect the plane's behavior at all. Mike Taglieri - ------------------------------------------------ 'Mine goes up to 11' - ------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:52:03 -0500 From: Trent Flemming Subject: KR: Fuselage Question Is the separation between the top of the upper longeron and bottom of the lower longeron at the aft of the boat supose to be 11 inches. On the plans (KR-2) there is a line drawn over from the last vertical member (believe it's called the stern post) toward the second to last vertical rib that says 11 inches. Is that the actual separation of the end of the longerons. There is no measurement for separation at the aft of the fuselage in the supplemental plans for the KR-2S. However the KR-2S is longer, therefore should the separation between longerons aft end be different even if the KR-2 is 11 inches. Hope I explained that right. Excuse the Freshman here, maybe I got a faulty set of plans just for laughs. :) Some kind of experiment in frustration. Thanks, Trent mailto: tflemming@texramp.net icq# 7369008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:56:18 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Fuselage Question Trent Flemming wrote: > Excuse the Freshman here, maybe I got a faulty set of plans just for > laughs. :) > Some kind of experiment in frustration. No your just coming across all the neat things about the KR2S plans! I made mine 11 inches and its a KR2S. In fact I ended up using the 1/4 scale side view for more than one measurement. The plans are lacking to say the least. - -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,.. Filling and sanding now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:02:55 EDT From: Genseric@aol.com Subject: KR: Tri gear. I'm planning on building my KR-2S with the tri-gear, and would like to know more about it. The plans don't really detail much on them so can any one tell me where I can find more info on it. Where the mains atatch? Any thing that might be help full. I can finally start. I just finished my work bench last night!! Thanks Ben Raby Minnesota ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:21:40 -0400 From: Kip Anderson Subject: Re: KR: insurance (pretty long) - --------------9E855926E3DBC98225DE190C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know where this started but there is an excellent web page with an Inspection Check List for Amature-Built Aircraft and Frequently Asked Questions among outher topics. http://www.provide.net/~pratt/ambuilt/faqhmblt.html Kr2dream@aol.com wrote: > Rick: > > I think the idea is more than worthwhile - it is something long overdue. I > commend you for your efforts and enthusiasm and I definitely am willing to > participate. Count me in! > > I like the idea of a checklist for the tech counsellor to use. The cost issue > is something that will need to be sorted out but i believe the benefits > attained would be much greater than the cost incurred. The training in type > alone could easily save one future accident. > > Bob Lasecki > Enthused in Chicago - --------------9E855926E3DBC98225DE190C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know where this started but there is an excellent web page with an Inspection Check List for Amature-Built Aircraft and Frequently Asked Questions among outher topics. http://www.provide.net/~pratt/ambuilt/faqhmblt.html

Kr2dream@aol.com wrote:

Rick:

I think the idea is more than worthwhile - it is something long overdue.  I
commend you for your efforts and enthusiasm and I definitely am willing to
participate.  Count me in!

I like the idea of a checklist for the tech counsellor to use.  The cost issue
is something that will need to be sorted out but i believe the benefits
attained would be much greater than the cost incurred.  The training in type
alone could easily save one future accident.

Bob Lasecki
Enthused in Chicago

  - --------------9E855926E3DBC98225DE190C-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:48:04 EDT From: HAshraf@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Re: Diehl In a message dated 98-07-10 08:29:54 EDT, you write: << Does he publish a cut sheet on the details? And how do I get it? I believe the wing is not the same size as the plans wing. Richard E. Parker Jaffrey, NH richontheroad@hotmail.com http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm ________________ >> I had ordered some info form Dhiel. The spars need to be modified. I haven't built mine so it is no problem for me. Haris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:54:18 -0400 From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR: Fuselage Question Trent Flemming wrote: > > Is the separation between the top of the upper longeron and bottom of the > lower longeron at the aft of the boat supose to be 11 inches. There is really nothing very critical about the dimensions at that point. Even if you are buying the pre-fab parts, this dimension won't affect anything significantly. Just make it look "right" 10 to 12 inches is a good range. - -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:13:13 -0400 From: Tom Andersen Subject: Re: KR: Re: Diehl Richard, I have not seen a cut sheet on the wings, they're 23' 6", so they're a little longer, but I've heard it's only at the wingtips and helps climb without reducing speed noticeably. I can tell you Dan's workmanship is excellent. - -Tom Richard Parker wrote: > >I seriously thinking of going with Dan Diehl of RR for wing skins. > Hopefully, > >by the time I will need them someone would be selling skins for AS > 5045:-) > > > >Haris > > Does he publish a cut sheet on the details? And how do I get it? > I believe the wing is not the same size as the plans wing. > > Richard E. Parker > Jaffrey, NH > richontheroad@hotmail.com > http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:35:53 -0400 From: Tom Andersen Subject: Re: KR: Re: Diehl/spar mods When I talked to Dan Diehle about the modifications to the spars, he said that the stock spars work fine with his wings. His spars have a slightly different height by about 1/8" at the tips, and do not have any taper on the front or rear face of the spars. The stock spars are tapered on the rear, and if you use them, just line up the front edge of the spar with the front edge of the spar depression in the wing skins. The stock spars are a bit lighter than Dan's design, too. Dan has a one-hour video for $30 available, and it includes some in-flight footage of FIVE KR's in formation flight. In the video, he puts on a set of wing skins in one weekend, with a few extra pairs of hands for the glueing parts. The vinyl ester resin sets up in 30 minutes depending on how you mix it of course, and so you have to work fast. When you see how the wings are done at the end of the tape, you get really stoked. I think Tom Crawford used them on his new KR-2 if I'm not mistaken. - -Tom HAshraf@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-07-10 08:29:54 EDT, you write: > > << Does he publish a cut sheet on the details? And how do I get it? > I believe the wing is not the same size as the plans wing. > > > Richard E. Parker > Jaffrey, NH > richontheroad@hotmail.com > http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm > ________________ >> > > I had ordered some info form Dhiel. The spars need to be modified. I haven't > built mine so it is no problem for me. > > Haris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:47:12 EDT From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: insurance (pretty long) In a message dated 7/10/98 6:18:08 PM EST, kipapilot@gnc.net writes: > I don't know where this started but there is an excellent web page with an > Inspection Check List for Amature-Built Aircraft and Frequently Asked > Questions > among outher topics. http://www.provide.net/~pratt/ambuilt/faqhmblt.html > > Kr2dream@aol.com wrote: > > > Rick: > > > > I think the idea is more than worthwhile - it is something long overdue. > I > > commend you for your efforts and enthusiasm and I definitely am willing to > > participate. Count me in! > > > > I like the idea of a checklist for the tech counsellor to use. The cost > issue > > is something that will need to be sorted out but i believe the benefits > > attained would be much greater than the cost incurred. The training in > type > > alone could easily save one future accident. > > > > Bob Lasecki > > Enthused in Chicago > Hmmmm... looks like someone has been reading the archives! I haven't had the opportunity to pursue this project any further yet. The web page mentioned above is a good place to start gathering the type of information to style our own "certification" program after, I've looked at several others that are very similar (sorry, I don't have the URLs at my fingertips). New job(s), working on my airplane, working on the test plan, helping with the Gathering, and oh, yeah, spending time with my family have kept me pretty busy. If anyone else out there is interested in making a contribution to the total effort, this is a great way to do it. Here's the recap of the original idea: The issue was insuring our airplanes, and I talked to the "big cheese" type people at Avemco to find out how to go about it. In a nut shell, they want to see some sort of a formal inspection program for newly built airplanes before they fly (EAA tech counselors can do them, with some protective legal caveats) and a formal training/orientation course for new KR pilots before they fly. Developing the programs for these efforts is a BIG job, but not impossible. There are several in existance to copy from - Lancair, Glasair, etc. I won't be in a position to head something like this up for a year or two, is there anyone else who wants to run with the ball? I'll contribute as much as I can, but can't give this one as much time as it requires to be done right. And there is no other way to do this but the right way... Cheers, Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com St. Charles MO ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:04:03 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Tri gear. Genseric@aol.com wrote: > > I'm planning on building my KR-2S with the tri-gear, and would like to know more about it. The plans don't really detail much on them so can any one tell me where I can find more info on it. Another interesting issue with the KR2S plans, they don't tell you how to attach the landing gear, canopy, turtledecks, instrument panel, and a few other things. I was told I would get those supplements when I purchased the parts. So your options are to purchase the parts of surf the many websites here on KRNet to find out. Good Luck. - -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,.. Filling and sanding now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:34:37 -0500 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Re: Bummer... 1/2 Compu-Fire dead At 10:32 AM 7/9/98 -0400, you wrote: >> >> I get to fly a Revmaster powered Dragonfly now and then and it doesnt >> shake at all on one mag. The RPM just drops a bit. This engine has the >> dual mag, one drive setup that is standard on most R2100s. If yours is >> shaking that bad something could be wrong. >> > >That was my thinking too. My problem is trying to get at the bottom plugs >on the Revmaster. I don't know where the plug socket it and all my other >sockets don't fit in the hole. > >Will probably just find another plug and test the leads one at a time with >it until I see something odd. > >- Cary - > Cary, You need to buy 'Thin-Wall Spark Plug Socket' from a Snap-On dealer. It's the only place I have been able to find a socket that will fit thru the head. Bobby Muse(N122B) mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:30:05 -0500 From: Trent Flemming Subject: Re: KR: Tri gear. Apparently the fun continues, that was my next question regarding where do the plans tell how to build a tri gear. If that is the case that Rand Robinson only hands the supplements upon ordering of the parts from them, than that is a real bummer. I planned on buying my stuff where i could find the best deal and as much of as i could afford at once. I had no intention on buying the Kit Groups from R.R., as I have already purchased my spruce from a local Aviation Shop and beat the shipping charge and back order wait. I hope that doesn't mean that i have excluded myself from a complete set of plans. What a disappointing first day building, :( WAIT! I have an idea, I will tell the FAA inspector that due to a monopoly setup in CA, and possible antitrust laws being broken, that I proceded to build the KR-2S without a complete set of plans and that i just put things where they looked good. All the while giving him my best Cross-eyed look. All kidding aside, I guess i will call R.R. and beg. And continue to use the excellent Web pages and Kr Email for my best guestament. Thank you to Mike Mimms and Donald Reid for your quick respones on my fuselage question, that sure is helpful when you get stuck and don't want to have to quit for an entire day. At 06:04 PM 7/10/98 -0700, you wrote: >Genseric@aol.com wrote: >> >> I'm planning on building my KR-2S with the tri-gear, and would like to know more about it. The plans don't really detail much on them so can any one tell me where I can find more info on it. > >Another interesting issue with the KR2S plans, they don't tell you how >to attach the landing gear, canopy, turtledecks, instrument panel, and a >few other things. I was told I would get those supplements when I >purchased the parts. So your options are to purchase the parts of surf >the many websites here on KRNet to find out. Good Luck. > > >-- >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >Micheal Mims >SP290,.. Filling and sanding now! >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >Irvine Ca >Fax 949.856.9417 >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:40:36 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Wieght and balance spreadsheet? Didn't somebody post or volunteer a weight and balance spreadsheet (geared for KRs, maybe?) a while back? Steve Eberhart's getting real serious about his new design and would like to save a little time developing such an animal. Going flying with a coworker tomorrow in a Starduster, wearing 'chutes and the whole bit. He's a high time CFI that specializes in aerobatics and spins. If you don't hear from me for a while, email my wife at kudzumom@aol.com for a deal on a highly modified KR... Thanks, Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kr2s.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 21:46:49 -0400 From: "Thomas Gatliff" Subject: KR: RE: Wieght and balance spreadsheet? If you tell me what you want, I will write software for the KR Weight and Balance info. Since this is what I do for a living, it would only take me a sec. In fact, if you send me the info (or spreadsheet) tonight, I will post the "Beta" in 1 to 2 days for feedback..... Thomas Gatliff GSE tgatliff@pro-trainer.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-krnet-l@teleport.com [mailto:owner-krnet-l@teleport.com]On > Behalf Of Mark Langford > Sent: Friday, July 10, 1998 9:41 PM > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Cc: Mark D. Lougheed > Subject: KR: Wieght and balance spreadsheet? > > > > Didn't somebody post or volunteer a weight and balance spreadsheet (geared > for KRs, maybe?) a while back? Steve Eberhart's getting real > serious about > his new design and would like to save a little time developing such an > animal. > > Going flying with a coworker tomorrow in a Starduster, wearing 'chutes and > the whole bit. He's a high time CFI that specializes in aerobatics and > spins. If you don't hear from me for a while, email my wife at > kudzumom@aol.com for a deal on a highly modified KR... > > Thanks, > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kr2s.html > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 21:44:16 -0700 From: Darrin West Subject: KR: Bad news from FAA As I was afraid, the letter came the other day. FAA says I'm holding my medical by the skin of my teeth - not good for motivation on building a kr. Once more I will try to sell my kr-1 project. I have purchased my old ultralight back and plan to stick with it. I have a new set of kr-1 plans as well as the project. You can see pictures at my new web site. I have no hope of my investment back and am open for offers. I need the shelter space for my other bird and need to sell as soon as posible. I hate to scrap it out but will have no choice if no one is interested. This will be the last time I attempt to sell it before parting out the engine and other building supplies. Please E-Mail me direct if interested. Thanks, Darrin West mailto:dwest@rose.net http:www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hall/2032/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:56:35 -0500 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: RE: Glassing while in pane. At 12:38 PM 7/9/98 -0500, you wrote: >Cary wrote: > >> looks like a >> topographical map of the Mississipi delta at low tide. > >That was excellent! Don't know what kind of epoxy you're using, but it sure >sound vinyl esterish. Maybe you need a prescription for a little >Aeropoxy... When I start something like that, I don't answer the phone, the >door, or the call to nature. I'm sure you know that now too. Skip the sand >paper. You need a reciprocating saw... > >Mark Langford >mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > How true! How true! Been There, Done That! Bobby Muse(N122B) mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:56:37 -0500 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: DeFreze Retractable Tricycle Gear Conversion At 01:09 PM 7/10/98 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone have any experience with the DeFreze conversion? > >Ken Combs > > > Ken, Email me directly. I can tell you all you need to know. Bobby Muse(N122B) mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 21:36:28 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: RE: RE: Wieght and balance spreadsheet? Thomas Gatliff wrote: > If you tell me what you want, I will write software for the KR Weight and > Balance info. I don't think I can beat that deal. I'll let Steve (Eberhart) elaborate but I think what he's after is a fairly simple affair using some known point (front face of prop hub) as the datum to the moment arm X a weight yielding a moment, which are all totaled below. Just fields like "instruments", "engine", "wings", "wheels",... I may be totally wrong. He'll comment... Thanks a lot, Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kr2s.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:55:56 EDT From: miketnyc@juno.com (Michael Taglieri) Subject: KR: Fascinating Novel Yesteday I finished reading "Airframe," by Michael Crichton, which was a bestseller a couple of years ago (I'm reading it now because I buy best sellers when they hit the used-book bins). A fascinating read about an incident on a commercial carrier that left 3 dead and 56 injured for reasons that are completely contradictory. The heroine of the story is the vice-president for quality assurance at "Norton Aircraft," who must determine the reason for the incident and clear the plane's reputation before sensationalist news broadcasters (egged on by Airbus -- the competition) succeed in harpooning a huge sale to China and putting the company out of business. This is lightweight reading and a lot of the plot is fluff, but the aviation details are extraordinarily complete, and this may be the closest we'll ever see of how an incident review team of a major aircraft maker investigates an accident. I can't quite understand how a nonpilot readers made much sense of it, but it should be a lot of fun for anyone on this list. Mike Taglieri - ------------------------------------------------ 'Mine goes up to 11' - ------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:31:54 EDT From: miketnyc@juno.com (Michael Taglieri) Subject: Re: KR: Tri gear. >Apparently the fun continues, that was my next question regarding >where do >the plans tell how to build a tri gear. If that is the case that Rand >Robinson only hands the supplements upon ordering of the parts from >them, >than that is a real bummer. . . . . I guess i will call R.R. and beg. And continue to >use >the excellent Web pages and Kr Email for my best guestament. Actually, maybe someone on this list who's built a tri-gear could get in touch by private e-mail and copy...uhhh...paraphrase the RR trigear plans, entirely in his own words and organization, of course, so as not to violate any copyright while still giving you the full benefit of those plans. You'll have to use your imagination on how best to do this.... Mike Taglieri - ------------------------------------------------ 'Mine goes up to 11' - ------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:56:41 PDT From: "Jody Wallace" Subject: KR: More pitchy questions Hi group, I'm thrilled by all of the discourse on pitch sensitivity. I have a few questions: 1) Does a stock KR-2 tend to oscillate or phugoid about the pitch axis in normal level flight? (trimmed, no elevator input) 2) Do you have to move the stick much to change attitude or do you just think about it and it moves? 3) Is a stock KR-2 just as sensitive about the yaw axis as the pitch axis and if no then why? JW...humbly seeking ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V2 #116 *****************************