From: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com] Sent: Sunday, September 13, 1998 10:28 PM To: krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #148 krnet-l-digest Sunday, September 13 1998 Volume 02 : Number 148 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:15:05 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Fwd: Final 1998 KR Gathering Agenda At 09:54 PM 9/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >Rick > You'll have to talk to Marty real nice about giving rides this year. >Seems that after giving ( and I do mean giving since the guy did not >conttribute to the gas fund ) that Kitplanes did an article about an >overweight pig a KR-2. >>>>> Jean, tell Marty that guy who did that article is a complete dork! This guy bought a friend of mines Dragonfly and drilled him in the article for building a dangerous airplane! This smuck bought the Dragonfly knowing the engine case was cracked and tried to make a big deal about it after the plane was delivered. Seems he wanted my friend to eat the price of a new C85 case. Yeah RIGHT! I am sure Marty knows this dude is a @#%$&* but he also needs to realize that guy was in know way part of the KR crowd. As far as fuel $$ goes That kind of thing should not continue to happen or rides will become a thing of the past. I think the people who got a ride last year might want to cough up a few dollars over and above what Marty uses this year. If and when I get my KR to a gathering I will be more than happy to give rides all day long but at 7 gallons and hour they cant be free! :o) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:32:35 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: Web Page update There are some new pics at the bottom of http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/wing3.html bottom of http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/canopy4.html at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/engine2.html and at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/sept12.html zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:46:24 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: Fwd: Final 1998 KR Gathering Agenda Last year some contributed to fuel, some didn't. It was done with fuel chits that were given to the pilots. Rick has hinted at a different system this year. Don't know how it's gonna work out at the pump, but I trust Rick to make sure it's done properly. As for the fat pig KRs, Mike, Marty and I own three of them. I think they're gonna be three of the nicest two seat pigs in the air once Mike gets his flying. I can think of several others both flying and under construction as well. Of course we have some within KRNet that want to drill us regularly here as well as with letters in magazines for the same thing. I consider the source and continue enjoying my pig. :o) oink, oink On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:15:05 -0700 Micheal Mims writes: >At 09:54 PM 9/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >>Rick >> You'll have to talk to Marty real nice about giving rides this year. >>Seems that after giving ( and I do mean giving since the guy did not >>conttribute to the gas fund ) that Kitplanes did an article about an >>overweight pig a KR-2. >>>>> > >Jean, tell Marty that guy who did that article is a complete dork! This guy >bought a friend of mines Dragonfly and drilled him in the article for >building a dangerous airplane! > >This smuck bought the Dragonfly knowing the engine case was cracked and >tried to make a big deal about it after the plane was delivered. Seems he >wanted my friend to eat the price of a new C85 case. Yeah RIGHT! > >I am sure Marty knows this dude is a @#%$&* but he also needs to realize >that guy was in know way part of the KR crowd. > >As far as fuel $$ goes That kind of thing should not continue to happen or >rides will become a thing of the past. I think the people who got a ride >last year might want to cough up a few dollars over and above what Marty >uses this year. If and when I get my KR to a gathering I will be more than >happy to give rides all day long but at 7 gallons and hour they cant be >free! :o) >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >Micheal Mims >SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >Irvine Ca >Fax 949.856.9417 >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:53:04 EDT From: HAshraf@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Real TV I looked at the NTSB reports for this year and did not see any KR crashing. There was a Glasair that crashed last week on its first flight. Here is the synopsys form www.ntsb.gov. Haris >>>> NTSB Identification: MIA98FA237 Accident occurred SEP-05-98 at PANAMA CITY, FL Aircraft: GLASAIR RG-1, registration: N534TS Injuries: 1 Fatal. This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed. On September 5, 1998, about 1008 central daylight time, an experimental, amateur kit-built Glasair, N534TS, registered to a private individual, operating as a 14 CFR Part 91 personal flight, crashed while attempting a precautionary landing to Sandy Creek Airpark, Panama City, Florida. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and no flight plan was filed. The airplane was destroyed, and the pilot sustained fatal injuries. The flight originated about 8 minutes before the accident. According to many witnesses, neighbors of the airpark, including a fellow pilot/builder using a hand held radio in contact with the pilot, who assembled to watch the newly finished airplane's first flight, the engine was heard to cough and sputter at about 100 feet agl, on takeoff. The engine seemed to smooth out and the pilot was observed to enter a large left orbit at 500 to 600 feet agl, go out of sight beyond a tree line, then reemerge to set himself up for a right base to a downwind landing. The pilot overshot the runway center line, entered a steep right turn to correct, brought the nose up to a landing attitude at about 75 feet agl, and held that attitude until touchdown. The airplane impacted grass terrain at a high rate of descent about 40 feet left of the runway, shed its three landing gear and other parts, and slid onto the runway and burned. >>>> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:23:20 -0500 From: flyer@clas.net Subject: Re: KR: Real TV That video was first shown on Real TV at least two years ago. I recall seeing the clip in late '96. Bruce HAshraf@aol.com wrote: > I looked at the NTSB reports for this year and did not see any KR crashing. > There was a Glasair that crashed last week on its first flight. Here is the > synopsys form > www.ntsb.gov. > > Haris > > >>>> > NTSB Identification: MIA98FA237 > > Accident occurred SEP-05-98 at PANAMA CITY, FL > Aircraft: GLASAIR RG-1, registration: N534TS > Injuries: 1 Fatal. > > This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. > Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been > completed. > > On September 5, 1998, about 1008 central daylight time, an experimental, > amateur kit-built Glasair, N534TS, registered to a private individual, > operating as a 14 CFR Part 91 personal flight, crashed while attempting a > precautionary landing to Sandy Creek Airpark, Panama City, Florida. Visual > meteorological conditions prevailed and no flight plan was filed. The airplane > was destroyed, and the pilot sustained fatal injuries. The flight originated > about 8 minutes before the accident. According to many witnesses, neighbors of > the airpark, including a fellow pilot/builder using a hand held radio in > contact with the pilot, who assembled to watch the newly finished airplane's > first flight, the engine was heard to cough and sputter at about 100 feet agl, > on takeoff. The engine seemed to smooth out and the pilot was observed to > enter a large left orbit at 500 to 600 feet agl, go out of sight beyond a tree > line, then reemerge to set himself up for a right base to a downwind landing. > The pilot overshot the runway center line, entered a steep right turn to > correct, brought the nose up to a landing attitude at about 75 feet agl, and > held that attitude until touchdown. The airplane impacted grass terrain at a > high rate of descent about 40 feet left of the runway, shed its three landing > gear and other parts, and slid onto the runway and burned. > > >>>> - -- ____________________________ RagWing Special # 392 "Simplicate and Add Lightness" http://www.clas.net/~flyer ____________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:54:36 -0700 From: "John F. Esch" Subject: Re: KR: Web Page update Looking good Mike John F. Esch Micheal Mims wrote: > There are some new pics at the bottom of > > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/wing3.html > > bottom of > > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/canopy4.html > > at > > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/engine2.html > > and at > > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/sept12.html > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > Micheal Mims > SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! > mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > Irvine Ca > Fax 949.856.9417 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 05:09:15 -0400 From: "Tom Andersen" Subject: KR: Re: Web Page update Mike, I noticed you used some angle iron behind the lower motor mount attach points to tie the floor in. Did you use any behind the top mounting points and could you send a picture of them? Thanks. - -Tom - -----Original Message----- From: Micheal Mims To: krnet-l@teleport.com Cc: jbuck@ptialaska.net ; wittey@alaska.net Date: Saturday, September 12, 1998 11:23 PM Subject: KR: Web Page update >There are some new pics at the bottom of > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/wing3.html > >bottom of > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/canopy4.html > >at > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/engine2.html > >and at > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/sept12.html >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >Micheal Mims >SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >Irvine Ca >Fax 949.856.9417 >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:50:19 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Re: Web Page update At 05:09 AM 9/13/98 -0400, you wrote: >Mike, >I noticed you used some angle iron behind the lower motor mount attach points to tie the floor in. Did you use any behind the top mounting points and could you send a picture of them? Thanks. >-Tom > I used the standard 1/4 aluminum angle, look at the second picture on the engine II page. It is floxed to the motor mount rail and the upper shelf. Also notice I used 1/8 inch aluminum angle on the front of the top motor mount rails and it is bolted to the lower shelf. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:10:37 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Re: Congrats, Kobus Bill, I will check, I am using the BOSCH plug recommended in the VW auto application, or the Champion equivilent. Different plugs can extend into the cylinder as they are designed for different engines... thats where I was going with this. I'd have to check to see what Plug I'm actually using I won't be able to get to it until after Perry I'm afraid. -- Ross Krwr1@aol.com wrote: > > > > Hi Ross > > I used Champion L87Y, I used this the whole time I flew the KR.. What do you > mean the right plug, the german plug? > > I was told by a guy that flew a VW that , that was what he used, so you cant > argue with what works. > > The only problem was it extended too far into the engine. > > Bill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:15:57 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: I'll Be There FYI Rick, I will be arriving Thursday the 17th, and leaving Sunday the 20th. If you need support setting up anything etc for the event let me know and I'll pitch in. - -- Regards Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:24:00 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: Preperations for PerryKosh '98 Well, I'm trying to get my stuff together for the trip to PerryKosh. I had to run out and buy some jeans/shorts as it seems that all the good pair I had somehow ended up with epoxy/paint etc on them, and I can't explain this. It comes from popping out into the garage for "just a minute" to check on somthing, then backing into some epoxy or paint etc. At any rate, I will be traveling to San-Jose Monday-Wednesday for work, then back home to pack again for Perry. I plan to bring the digital camera and laptop, and hopefully can enlist anyone else at Perry with a laptop to help me fix all the broken links at our http://www.krnet.org website. I just don't have time otherwise to keep this up. Looking forward to taking lots of pictures of KR's - -- Regards Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:20:29 -0600 From: "Jeb" Subject: KR: New weigh-in info. With instrument panel clamped in place and not wired and everything else I could think of, (transponder, battery #4 battery cable etc...) We hung the wings and leveled it, weights Nosewheel.....................................243 left main .....................................204 rightmain ......................................212 - ------------------------------------- total ..............................................659 figure in gas and pilot, I'm about half inch in front of CG range. looking good, may get away without a lead brick in the tail. John Bryhan jeb@thuntek.net // www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm Los Alamos, NM ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:09:00 EDT From: Krwr1@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Re: Congrats, Kobus Hi Ross OK,, Let me know what you end up useing.. See Ya Bill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:33:37 -0500 From: "Dean R. Collette, MD" Subject: KR: Inside Fuse paint? Since my boat is essentially complete and I have begun work on the tail I got to wondering if anyone has ever painted the inside of the aft fuselage. I really don't have a good reason other than I think it would look better than having to look at fiberglass and micro. I can't imagine that a single coat of paint would weigh very much. Any recommendations? Dean mailto:drdean@execpc.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:20:20 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Inside Fuse paint? At 05:33 PM 9/13/98 -0500, you wrote: >I really don't have a good reason other than I think it would look better >than having to look at fiberglass and micro. I can't imagine that a single >coat of paint would weigh very much. > >Any recommendations? > I used Krylon splatter paint. It comes in a varatiy of colors (kits that have clear coat included) and seems to hold up once you add the clear coat to it. I found it at Home Base. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:58:09 -0400 From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR: Inside Fuse paint? Dean R. Collette, MD wrote: > > Since my boat is essentially complete and I have begun work on the tail I > got to wondering if anyone has ever painted the inside of the aft fuselage. When I had left-over epoxy, I would thin it with just a little MEK or acetone and use it to seal the inside of the fuselage aft of the baggage area. It looks very nice. I have seen others with a coat or two of varnish. - -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:34:57 +0000 From: Great Plains Aircraft Subject: Re: KR: Re: Congrats, Kobus duane fisher in Des Moines IA makes a brass insert for VW heads. Because brass is denser than aluminum, the insert never comes out when the plug is removed when the engine is slightly warm. steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:36:34 +0000 From: Great Plains Aircraft Subject: Re: KR: Real TV If memory serves me, this is an old case. Short strip, simple premature takes off followed by stall perhaps? I know i've seen this before! steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:39:35 +0000 From: Great Plains Aircraft Subject: Re: KR: Re: Congrats, Kobus depending upon the head you are using and if you are using the plug in the top position or secondary position the length can vary. In the top, I like the rel37b. it is about 3/32" longer than a rej38. steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:43:46 -0500 From: rmccall Subject: Re: KR: PerryKosh workshops Great idea Oscar. I could really go for that! Rich McCall Oscar Zuniga wrote: > EagleGator, you there? > > I spoke with Don Parham at RFI in McAlester, OK about giving a Subaru > conversion workshop at the Perry "alternative engine" discussions. As I > mentioned before, he has been in and out of the hospital, plus lost his > business partner and is now busy trying to hook up with a new fiberglass > person. He did say that he is very interested in the KR community and > originally developed his conversions for the KR because he was building > one at the time, so he will try to get over to Perry on Sat. the 19th, > but it will be a last-minute decision due to being out of town most of > the week. > > He has a conversion flying in a Europa, over 100 hrs. in it, and the > builder is flying it down to his shop in McAlester to show him how it > turned out. He will contact the builder to see if he will swing it by > Perry on the way- so folks can see one for real, flying. > > There are other things of interest that he can bring, but won't know if > he will make it until next week. I will let you know... > > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, Oregon > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:50:47 -0500 From: rmccall Subject: Re: KR: KR Gathering Requests Hi Steve, Rich "From Dallas, Temproarily in Kansas" McCall Horn2004@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/9/98 8:42:18 AM, you wrote: > > < am > wrapping up the final details with Don. Still too soon to get a hack on the > weather, but so far so good.>> > > FYI... We've been suffering through a terribly hot summer in the > Texas/Oklahoma area. Been in the 100's almost 60 days already (was 106 this > past weekend). Forecast is for continued hot WX, but probably only in the > upper 90's. Unless we see a dramatic change in the weather over the next week, > you might want to bring some very light clothing along with a hat to keep you > comfortable out on the ramp. Haven't had any measurable rain here in Dallas > since late June, so you probably will be safe leaving your umbrella at home. > > Steve Horn > horn2004@aol.com > Dallas, TX ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:54:45 EDT From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: KR: Fwd: PerryKosh workshops This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_905738085_boundary Content-ID: <0_905738085@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sorry gang, I mistakenly sent this reply direct to Oscar. Cheers, Rick - --part0_905738085_boundary Content-ID: <0_905738085@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: EagleGator@aol.com Return-path: To: taildrags@hotmail.com Subject: Re:PerryKosh workshops Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:55:29 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/12/98 3:01:45 AM Central Daylight Time, taildrags@hotmail.com writes: > so he will try to get over to Perry on Sat. the 19th, > but it will be a last-minute decision due to being out of town most of > the week. Hi Oscar, All of the available time for seminars has been assigned already, but he is more than welcome to bring his product over for display and one-on-one with the folks at the gathering. There may be a chance that one of the seminars will drop out, so I'll keep you posted early in the week in case that makes a difference as to whether or not he will come. Thanks for the leg work! Even if it doesn't work out this year, we can work with him for next year's gathering. Cheers, Rick - --part0_905738085_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:05:20 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Fwd: PerryKosh workshops >>>Evenif it doesn't work out this year, we can work with him for next year's gathering.>>>> > >Cheers, >Rick Rick speaking of next years gathering, has anyone given this any thought? Since I WILL be flying in MY plane next year I was just curious. :o) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:05:02 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Inside Fuse paint? Dean, A couple of recommendations: 1) All of the wood structure should be protected from moisture. I used SPAR Varnish, which you can by through ACS/Wicks, or get at your local hardware/paint store. 2) You can use Zolatone paint to get a nice alternative finish look. 3) In my case I found that Formbys Granite paint looked a lot like Zolatone, but was easily obtainable at K-Mart. I then covered this with clear for a waterproof finish. That's what I did. Spar Varnish, & Formbys. - -- Ross Dean R. Collette, MD wrote: > > Since my boat is essentially complete and I have begun work on the tail I > got to wondering if anyone has ever painted the inside of the aft fuselage. > > I really don't have a good reason other than I think it would look better > than having to look at fiberglass and micro. I can't imagine that a single > coat of paint would weigh very much. > > Any recommendations? > > Dean > mailto:drdean@execpc.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:06:44 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: RE:Perry Weather Thanks for the Weather report. The hat is a great idea. I was demoing my KR at a local airshow and got FRIED in the sun. I'll try to remember to bring some sunscreen too! - -- Ross rmccall wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > Rich "From Dallas, Temproarily in Kansas" McCall > > Horn2004@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/9/98 8:42:18 AM, you wrote: > > > > < > am > > wrapping up the final details with Don. Still too soon to get a hack on the > > weather, but so far so good.>> > > > > FYI... We've been suffering through a terribly hot summer in the > > Texas/Oklahoma area. Been in the 100's almost 60 days already (was 106 this > > past weekend). Forecast is for continued hot WX, but probably only in the > > upper 90's. Unless we see a dramatic change in the weather over the next week, > > you might want to bring some very light clothing along with a hat to keep you > > comfortable out on the ramp. Haven't had any measurable rain here in Dallas > > since late June, so you probably will be safe leaving your umbrella at home. > > > > Steve Horn > > horn2004@aol.com > > Dallas, TX ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:22:51 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Fwd: Final 1998 KR Gathering Agenda At 08:55 PM 9/13/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Jeff, > >Hey, I want to get a ride with you if I can. > >Rich McCall > Jeff, I think Rich wants a ride real bad! :o) Four times should get Jeff's attention Rich. :o) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:55:51 -0500 From: rmccall Subject: Re: KR: Fwd: Final 1998 KR Gathering Agenda Hi Jeff, Hey, I want to get a ride with you if I can. Rich McCall Jeffrey E Scott wrote: > Last year some contributed to fuel, some didn't. It was done with fuel > chits that were given to the pilots. Rick has hinted at a different > system this year. Don't know how it's gonna work out at the pump, but I > trust Rick to make sure it's done properly. > > As for the fat pig KRs, Mike, Marty and I own three of them. I think > they're gonna be three of the nicest two seat pigs in the air once Mike > gets his flying. I can think of several others both flying and under > construction as well. > > Of course we have some within KRNet that want to drill us regularly here > as well as with letters in magazines for the same thing. I consider the > source and continue enjoying my pig. :o) > > oink, oink > > On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:15:05 -0700 Micheal Mims > writes: > >At 09:54 PM 9/12/98 -0500, you wrote: > >>Rick > >> You'll have to talk to Marty real nice about giving rides this year. > >>Seems that after giving ( and I do mean giving since the guy did not > >>conttribute to the gas fund ) that Kitplanes did an article about an > >>overweight pig a KR-2. >>>>> > > > >Jean, tell Marty that guy who did that article is a complete dork! This > guy > >bought a friend of mines Dragonfly and drilled him in the article for > >building a dangerous airplane! > > > >This smuck bought the Dragonfly knowing the engine case was cracked and > >tried to make a big deal about it after the plane was delivered. Seems > he > >wanted my friend to eat the price of a new C85 case. Yeah RIGHT! > > > >I am sure Marty knows this dude is a @#%$&* but he also needs to realize > >that guy was in know way part of the KR crowd. > > > >As far as fuel $$ goes That kind of thing should not continue to happen > or > >rides will become a thing of the past. I think the people who got a ride > >last year might want to cough up a few dollars over and above what Marty > >uses this year. If and when I get my KR to a gathering I will be more > than > >happy to give rides all day long but at 7 gallons and hour they cant be > >free! :o) > >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > >Micheal Mims > >SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! > >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > >Irvine Ca > >Fax 949.856.9417 > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:25:53 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Inside Fuse paint? At 07:05 PM 9/13/98 -0700, you wrote: >Dean, > A couple of recommendations: > >1) All of the wood structure should be protected from > moisture. I used SPAR Varnish, which you can by > through ACS/Wicks, or get at your local hardware/paint > store. > Yall are forgetting that Dr. Dean's fuselage aint got no exposed wood! :o) He has the trick composite job. Anyway I used EZpoxy (safe-t-poxy) thinned with alcohol to seal the wood in the aft fuselage. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:23:33 EDT From: WARRONFLYS@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Inside Fuse paint? Keep it light , those ounces add up faster than a large pizza with everything on it and a beer.Warron. P.S my wife has to loose 134 pounds and she only weighs 132 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:31:21 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: Additional Ride Opportunity I will be picking up a Rental Car in OKC on Thursday If someone wants to arrange a ride, here is how to do it as I may not be getting any KRNET email till I get to PERRY. 1) Voicemail me to arrange meeting and leave me a phone number 1-800-538-6838 x 1632 2) Page me... this is unreliable as I would have to have batteries that work, and turn the darn thing on, but I might... 1-800-SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 (Nationwide) 3) Send me an email to my work email address at rossy@saber.slb.com - -- Regards Ross rossy@teleport.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:45:51 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Perry schedule and photo platforms? Did anybody ever post a schedule of events? I only ask because I'm supposed to give a "forum" and am not sure what day it's on. It kinda matters because it's the difference in a free plane ride with Troy or a looooooong drive. Sorry if I missed the schedule if it was published previously, but I sure don't see it anywhere. Also, do we still have two photo planes showing up? I seem to remember somebody that somebody that Jean knows and one the Randy knows had said they might show up. If so, my offer for free 8x10's for all the pilots that show up still stands. My main motivation, of course, is that I get to see them all from the air. We'll have to get some formation flying advice from Rick, however. Too many recent accidents doing this stuff. I have a pretty good telephoto lense, so maybe we can keep our distance. I guess I got the bug for this kinda stuff taking pictures of Lionheart. I took some the other day after the recent paint job for a marketing brochure (and the cover of a Brazillian magazine, apparently). Several examples are at http://www.griffon-aerospace.com/current.html . It's pretty cool to see a beautiful airplane flying close by with no glass between you and it. These were taken from a Swift with my window rolled down. I had to be careful not to stick the camera in the slipstream because we'd yaw to the right! Just to give you an idea of how close we were, this was with the wide angle lense on my digital camera...but the pilot was Gordy Seuell, ex USAF fighter jock... Mark Langford mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:07:13 -0600 From: Ron Lee Subject: KR: KR Gathering Pnane Rides I will only send this once. I will be driving instead of flying. Decided I want some recent KR taildragger time before I fly mine. If anyone can provide some dual time I would be most appreciative. Ron Lee >>Hi Jeff, >> >>Hey, I want to get a ride with you if I can. >> >>Rich McCall >> > >Jeff, I think Rich wants a ride real bad! :o) Four times should get Jeff's >attention Rich. :o) >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >Micheal Mims ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:37:43 -0500 From: "Dean R. Collette, MD" Subject: KR: Inside Fuse Paint Mike is right - I have very little exposed wood. On those few pieces I used thinned out Aeropoxy, which seems to have worked out fine. On the exposed wood of the center spars I used the full strength stuff - all that talk of cracks in the spar caps a while back made me a little over cautious. Since my fuselage is all fiberglass (over wood and foam) you can see through it to the stuff underneath. I am not trying to protect anything - the fiberglass will take care of that, I am just tired of looking at the brown foam mixed with pink, white micro, and a few wood strips underneath the glass. I have plans for the cabin, it's the aft portion of the fuse that I'm wondering about. Dean mailto:drdean@execpc.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:30:02 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: Fwd: Final 1998 KR Gathering Agenda I'll be glad to do rides for those I can fit in. However, I do have a hard limit of 150# passenger. That's the cost of having a heavy plane with a 250# pilot. I apologize to those that bust the weight limit, but you can't change the physics of how the plane flies. Jeff Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kjeffs.html http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:55:51 -0500 rmccall writes: >Hi Jeff, > >Hey, I want to get a ride with you if I can. > >Rich McCall > >Jeffrey E Scott wrote: > >> Last year some contributed to fuel, some didn't. It was done with >fuel >> chits that were given to the pilots. Rick has hinted at a different >> system this year. Don't know how it's gonna work out at the pump, >but I >> trust Rick to make sure it's done properly. >> >> As for the fat pig KRs, Mike, Marty and I own three of them. I >think >> they're gonna be three of the nicest two seat pigs in the air once >Mike >> gets his flying. I can think of several others both flying and >under >> construction as well. >> >> Of course we have some within KRNet that want to drill us regularly >here >> as well as with letters in magazines for the same thing. I consider >the >> source and continue enjoying my pig. :o) >> >> oink, oink >> >> On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:15:05 -0700 Micheal Mims > >> writes: >> >At 09:54 PM 9/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >> >>Rick >> >> You'll have to talk to Marty real nice about giving rides this >year. >> >>Seems that after giving ( and I do mean giving since the guy did >not >> >>conttribute to the gas fund ) that Kitplanes did an article about >an >> >>overweight pig a KR-2. >>>>> >> > >> >Jean, tell Marty that guy who did that article is a complete dork! >This >> guy >> >bought a friend of mines Dragonfly and drilled him in the article >for >> >building a dangerous airplane! >> > >> >This smuck bought the Dragonfly knowing the engine case was cracked >and >> >tried to make a big deal about it after the plane was delivered. >Seems >> he >> >wanted my friend to eat the price of a new C85 case. Yeah RIGHT! >> > >> >I am sure Marty knows this dude is a @#%$&* but he also needs to >realize >> >that guy was in know way part of the KR crowd. >> > >> >As far as fuel $$ goes That kind of thing should not continue to >happen >> or >> >rides will become a thing of the past. I think the people who got a >ride >> >last year might want to cough up a few dollars over and above what >Marty >> >uses this year. If and when I get my KR to a gathering I will be >more >> than >> >happy to give rides all day long but at 7 gallons and hour they >cant be >> >free! :o) >> >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >> >Micheal Mims >> >SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! >> >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >> >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >> >Irvine Ca >> >Fax 949.856.9417 >> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> > >> > >> >> >_____________________________________________________________________ >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:27:02 EDT From: miketnyc@juno.com (Michael C. Taglieri) Subject: KR: Re: VW plugs (formerly Congrats, Kobus) >> I used Champion L87Y, I used this the whole time I flew the KR.. >What do you >> mean the right plug, the german plug? >> >> I was told by a guy that flew a VW that , that was what he used, so >you cant >> argue with what works. >> >> The only problem was it extended too far into the engine. > I will check, I am using the BOSCH plug recommended in >the VW auto application, or the Champion equivilent. Different >plugs can extend into the cylinder as they are designed for >different engines... thats where I was going with this. > I'd have to check to see what Plug I'm actually using I >won't be able to get to it until after Perry I'm afraid. Despite the aviation-related modifications, people should remember these things are basically VW engines and VW has TONS of data on what works best in them. You don't have to rely on what some guy tells you especially advice that could ruin your heads. The Type I official VW Service Manual (Bentley, 1976) says the following: >(Page 54) Spark plugs must be of the correct heat range and physical >dimensions. The plug reach (length of the threaded portion of the shell) should >be 12mm (.472 in.). The threaded diameter shuld be 14mm. >(Page 58) Spark Plugs (carburetor engines): >Normal service: Champion L-85 or L-86, Bosch W 145 T1, Beru 145/14 >High-speed service: Champion L-88-A, Bosch W 175 T1, Beru 175/14 Mike Taglieri - --------------------------------------- 'Mine goes up to 11' - --------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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