From: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com] Sent: Sunday, September 20, 1998 10:55 AM To: krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #151 krnet-l-digest Sunday, September 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 151 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:36:15 -0600 From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: Help Ross, Ross, Ross, Must we do EVERYTHING for you? :) I beleive you were at the Dan-D-Motel. 405-336-4463 Ron Lee At 05:16 PM 9/16/98 -0700, you wrote: >Can someone email me (or post to krnet-l) the list of alternative >lodgings? > >I need to cancel my reservation now that I'm splitting a room with Jeff >Scott, >so I need to find the phone number. This stuff is at home. > >I will try and go through the digests. > >If anyone needs a room, leave me a voicemail at 1-800-538-6838x1632 >and I can give you the details on the room I had. It was dirt cheap. < >$30.00 >-- Ross > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:15:05 -0600 From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: Lodging at Perry Oops Ross, I just looked at a recent posting that indicates the area code is 580 instead of 405 (Dan-D-Motel is 336-4463) Ron Best Western is 580-336-2218 At 05:05 PM 9/16/98 -0700, you wrote: >Say, can someone re-post the accomidation list? I am preparing to >search >the archives for it. I made a reservation but I'm on the road and don't >have >my confirmation info. I need to cancel my reservation or offer this >room >to someone who needs a room. > >Posting the list will help jog my memory so I know who to call. >(It wasn't the DAYS inn) >-- Ross > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:26:38 -0700 From: Darrin West Subject: KR: unsubscribe unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:52:47 -0400 From: "Tom Andersen" Subject: KR: Windmilling Props I have been planning on not installing a starter on my direct drive Subaru EA-81 turbo for the sake of simplicity and weight reduction. The question has come up that since these short KR-size props don't windmill at all, it may be a matter of safety. I know Jean said they did't windmill on his last two engine outs on his VW, what is the experience of the other KR fliers? What speed would you need to windmill again? Does anybody ever practice engine-off landings with their KR? I'm thinking it sure would be a shame to have to do an off-field landing just because of a fuel management problems such as not switching tanks during cruise. However, attempting an inflight restart is a distraction from flying the aircraft to a safe landing. This is a philosophical issue so opinions are welcome. Mike, have you decided on your starter yet? In your case your prop will probably windmill at low KR speeds down to 60mph due to the low compression and long prop. - -Tom Andersen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:32:26 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Windmilling Props At 09:52 PM 9/16/98 -0400, you wrote: >I have been planning on not installing a starter on my direct drive Subaru EA-81 turbo for the sake of simplicity and weight reduction. The question has come up that since these short KR-size props don't windmill at all, it may be a matter of safety. I know Jean said they did't windmill on his last two engine outs on his VW, what is the experience of the other KR fliers?>>> Well Tom I am not a "KR" flyer yet but I have fly and have many friends that fly behind a VW on a regular basis. The short props used on the VWs will NOT allow for a air restart (they will not wind mill). I hate to be so absolute but I know more than one person who tried to wind mill their VW and all they did was lose altitude that would have been better used to buy time looking for a better place to land. Don't count on a wind milling prop to get it running again. Besides, if quit running what makes you think it would re-start anyway unless it quit for a known reason that you could remedy? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:03:53 -0800 From: Bruce Toscano Subject: Re: KR: KRNet Etiquette okay, I've had enough of this **** for awhile. Unsubscribe me PLEASE!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:06:20 -0400 From: "WARRON GRAY" Subject: Re: KR: Windmilling Props TOM I HAVE FLOWN WITH THE TEST PILOT OF THE ROTAX 914 TURBO IN THE 152 ,WE DID A FULL ENGINE SHUT DOWN JUST TO SEE HOW LONG WE COULD GLIDE OVER THE EVERGLADES . HE THEN BEGAN TO SHOW ME THE EASE THAT THE ROTAX WILL START BY WINDMILLING .... I'M STILL WAITING!! AFTER THREE DIVES AT THOSE GATORS HE SUGGESTED WE USE THE STARTER . YOU SHOULD TOO. wARRON - -----Original Message----- From: Micheal Mims To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 10:34 PM Subject: Re: KR: Windmilling Props >At 09:52 PM 9/16/98 -0400, you wrote: >>I have been planning on not installing a starter on my direct drive Subaru >EA-81 turbo for the sake of simplicity and weight reduction. The question >has come up that since these short KR-size props don't windmill at all, it >may be a matter of safety. I know Jean said they did't windmill on his last >two engine outs on his VW, what is the experience of the other KR fliers?>>> > >Well Tom I am not a "KR" flyer yet but I have fly and have many friends that >fly behind a VW on a regular basis. The short props used on the VWs will NOT >allow for a air restart (they will not wind mill). I hate to be so absolute >but I know more than one person who tried to wind mill their VW and all they >did was lose altitude that would have been better used to buy time looking >for a better place to land. Don't count on a wind milling prop to get it >running again. Besides, if quit running what makes you think it would >re-start anyway unless it quit for a known reason that you could remedy? >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >Micheal Mims >SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >Irvine Ca >Fax 949.856.9417 >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:36:33 -0700 From: "Benny Skyn" Subject: KR: Re: Help This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BDE10A.0E025B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I saw a guy on the kr net the other day who flew his kr for the first = time. He was using a point disributor instead of a magneto. Do you know = who he was as I have deleted the message like a bonehead. I have a type = 4 and would like to look into running a point distributor on my engine. Benny Skyn -----Original Message----- From: Ross Youngblood To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 5:25 PM Subject: KR: Help =20 =20 Can someone email me (or post to krnet-l) the list of alternative lodgings? =20 I need to cancel my reservation now that I'm splitting a room with = Jeff Scott, so I need to find the phone number. This stuff is at home. =20 I will try and go through the digests. =20 If anyone needs a room, leave me a voicemail at 1-800-538-6838x1632 and I can give you the details on the room I had. It was dirt = cheap. < $30.00 -- Ross =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BDE10A.0E025B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I saw a guy on the kr net the other = day who flew=20 his kr for the first time. He was using a point disributor instead of a = magneto.=20 Do you know who he was as I have deleted the message like a bonehead. I = have a=20 type 4 and would like to look into running a point distributor on my=20 engine.
Benny = Skyn
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Ross Youngblood <rossy@teleport.com>
To: = krnet-l@teleport.com <krnet-l@teleport.com>
D= ate:=20 Wednesday, September 16, 1998 5:25 PM
Subject: KR:=20 Help

Can someone email me (or post to krnet-l) = the list=20 of alternative
lodgings?

I need to cancel my reservation = now that=20 I'm splitting a room with Jeff
Scott,
so I need to find the = phone=20 number.  This stuff is at home.

I will try and go = through the=20 digests.

If anyone needs a room, leave me a voicemail at=20 1-800-538-6838x1632
and I can give you the details on the room I=20 had.  It was dirt cheap. <
$30.00
--=20 Ross

- ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BDE10A.0E025B80-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:48:37 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Help Ron, Hey thanks! I'm on the road, back in Portland, OR tonight after being in San-Jose,CA all week. I left my Tennis shoes back home on Monday morning. I decided to stay in a Motel tonight rather than drive home, and get up at 3:00am to catch my flight to Oklahoma at 6:00am. The Dan-D Motel was it! -- Your humble Brain-Dead KRNET admin Ross Ron Lee wrote: > Ross, Ross, Ross, > > Must we do EVERYTHING for you? :) > > I beleive you were at the Dan-D-Motel. > > 405-336-4463 > > Ron Lee > > At 05:16 PM 9/16/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Can someone email me (or post to krnet-l) the list of alternative > >lodgings? > > > >I need to cancel my reservation now that I'm splitting a room with Jeff > >Scott, > >so I need to find the phone number. This stuff is at home. > > > >I will try and go through the digests. > > > >If anyone needs a room, leave me a voicemail at 1-800-538-6838x1632 > >and I can give you the details on the room I had. It was dirt cheap. < > >$30.00 > >-- Ross > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:21:29 EDT From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Re: Help In a message dated 9/16/98 11:38:16 PM Central Daylight Time, skyn@vic.com writes: > I saw a guy on the kr net the other day who flew his kr for the first time. > He was using a point distributor instead of a magneto. Do you know who he was > as I have deleted the message like a bonehead. I have a type 4 and would like > to look into running a point distributor on my engine. > Benny Skyn Jim Faughn flies with a distributor. He'll be at Perry, if you're going this year. He's also on this list, and should be able to provide you with all the information you need. Cheers, Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com St. Charles MO ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 05:45:53 +0000 From: Great Plains Aircraft Subject: Re: KR: Windmilling Props my experience from trying with and engine i could restart is that they will provided that your airspeed is about 160mph. steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:09:25 -0700 From: tomstokes1@juno.com (Tom Stokes) Subject: Re: KR: a new member/flight controls On Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:12:06 +0200 "Stefan den Boer" writes: > Hallo >My name is Stef den Boer and i am happy to be now on the kr net. I am >from >the Netherlands(europe) >and bilding already for 10 years together with my father on the kr . I >know >my writing is realy bad, the reason is that this is my first letter in >another langeust. I hope that everybody is now smiling to me/. Welcome Stef I used to live in Kevelear Germany a short distance from Venlo Nederlands. Would love to come back someday, I left there in 1993. Tom in Reno NV _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:43:46 EDT From: SLIMPIDLIN@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: AOL!!!!!! HMMMMMMM Brian !!!!!! You just posted three times,guess that blows your AOL theory.See ya in OK. Garry ------------------------------ Date: 17 Sep 1998 08:25:49 -0700 From: "R.W. Moore" Subject: [none] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0187_01BDE22E.3298F560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have inventes :"The Missing Link" Vacuum pump dive system for = Volkswagen airplane engines The system mounts where the magneto was on = the Diehl or the HAPI case. You can use the electric ignition in the = regular distributor hole. The electric ignition can be bought from Greap = Plains or other dealers. The unit sells for $295.00 + 5% S&H. The unit = has over 110 hours on the test stand. In some cases at fly-ins the unit = has ran for over 10 hours with out stopping. The system uses a off the = shelf 211CC vacuum pump with out modifying it in any way. =20 MPA Company POB 622 Toccoa, Ga. 30577 706-779-3446 Fax 779-2302 best time to call is in mornings RWM PLEASE REPOST - ------=_NextPart_000_0187_01BDE22E.3298F560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have inventes :"The Missing = Link"=20 Vacuum pump dive system for Volkswagen airplane engines The system = mounts where=20 the magneto was on the Diehl or the HAPI case. You can use the electric = ignition=20 in the regular distributor hole. The electric ignition can be bought = from Greap=20 Plains or other dealers. The unit sells for $295.00 + 5% S&H. The = unit has=20 over 110 hours on the test stand. In some cases at fly-ins the unit has = ran for=20 over 10 hours with out stopping. The system uses a off the shelf 211CC = vacuum=20 pump with out modifying it in any way.     =20
 
MPA Company
POB 622
Toccoa, Ga. 30577
706-779-3446
Fax 779-2302
best time to call is in = mornings
RWM
PLEASE = REPOST
- ------=_NextPart_000_0187_01BDE22E.3298F560-- ------------------------------ Date: 17 Sep 1998 09:09:33 -0700 From: "Rex Ellington" Subject: KR: Weather, Perry area G'Day The general forecast for the OKC - Perry is: Thur: partly cloudy, mainly dry, high 95-90. Fri.: sunshine broken by passing clouds, high 85. Sat. partly clouds, high low 80s, nite 57-60. Sun: partly cloudiy, mainly dry, high 80. Radar map show cloud bank from Galveston to Michigan thinning. Get a detailed briefing before T.O. Safe flying to all. Rex Rex T. Ellington ellingto@gslan.offsys.ou.edu ------------------------------ Date: 17 Sep 1998 12:59:05 -0700 From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: KR: Etiquette In a message dated 9/17/98 8:04:06 AM Central Daylight Time, tomstokes1@juno.com writes: > Welcome Stef > I used to live in Kevelear Germany a short distance from Venlo > Nederlands. Would love to come back someday, I left there in 1993. > > Tom in Reno NV Just to make the point, this is an example of something that should have been a private post direct to Stef. No offense, Tom, just trying to clarify my perception of the etiquette we should be using. Any comments to this post, please send directly to me, EagleGator@aol.com. Thanks! Cheers, Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com St. Charles MO Currently in Perry (and online!) ------------------------------ Date: 17 Sep 1998 18:17:23 -0700 From: miketnyc@juno.com (Michael C. Taglieri) Subject: Re: KR: Windmilling Props >I have been planning on not installing a starter on my direct drive >Subaru >EA-81 turbo for the sake of simplicity and weight reduction. The >question >has come up that since these short KR-size props don't windmill at >all, it >may be a matter of safety. I know Jean said they did't windmill on >his last >two engine outs on his VW, what is the experience of the other KR >fliers? >What speed would you need to windmill again? >Does anybody ever practice engine-off landings with their KR? I'm >thinking >it sure would be a shame to have to do an off-field landing just >because of >a fuel management problems such as not switching tanks during cruise. >However, attempting an inflight restart is a distraction from flying >the >aircraft to a safe landing. This is a philosophical issue so opinions >are >welcome. There is a letter in the engine column of this month's EAA "Experimenter" about a French builder (I think) who has a compression release on his engine consisting of a cam under the valve cover(s) that, when turned by a cable in the cockpit, pushes down exhaust valve(s) and releasing compression so the engine will windmill. The principle is classic and is common on single-cylinder motorcycle engines, which can be real pains to kick over. However, I've just given you virtually all the details the column gave -- i.e., maddeningly few, and it's not even clear how many cylinders you have to do this to in order to make it windmill. There was a thread on this list a year or two ago that the very short props traditionally used on KR's don't have to be that short to remain subsonic, and with with modern fixed gear you can use a much longer one. Maybe that way, you'd need such a compression release on only one cylinder for windmilling (or maybe none). Mike Taglieri - --------------------------------------- 'Mine goes up to 11' - --------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Sep 1998 06:05:24 -0700 From: Tom Crawford Subject: Re: KR: Infantile Chatter Micheal Mims wrote: > > Richard Parker wrote: > > > >Hey Richard, > > >I don't know which is worse, the multiple postings or needless > > infantile chatter like the above. KRNet is for the dissemination of >information on the construction of KR aircraft. If you are in need of a >chat room, please look elsewhere. > > > > > >Steve Horn > > >horn2004@aol > > A new pair of fruit_of_the_looms will do wonders for you Steve! :o) > > Dont feel bad Richard I will not be at Perry either. But as of last > night my wing tips are glassed! In the words of the guy in the next > hanger "thay look bitchin!". So while Perry is going on this weekend I > will be installing the last fuel sending unit and building ailerons. > Next week I hang the motor! Woo Hoo! > > -- > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > Micheal Mims > SP290,.. Putting the engine back together again! > mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > Irvine Ca > Fax 949.856.9417 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Looks like I wont be there either this year. Tried to get out yesterday AM, IFR all day here in N FLA. Looks like a lot of the same today. There's always next year. Tom Crawford tomc@afn.org Gainesville, FL N262TC ------------------------------ Date: 18 Sep 1998 08:39:34 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: IFR all day here in N FLA At 06:05 AM 9/18/98 -0700, you wrote: >Looks like I wont be there either this year. Tried to get out yesterday >AM, IFR all day here in N FLA. Looks like a lot of the same today. >There's always next year. > >Tom Crawford Man that's too bad, I am betting a lot of guys would like to take a peek at your KR. If there is a vote to have the gathering in Kentucky next year those of us who are west of the Mississippi should consider having a gathering somewhere further to the left! I have been trying to get the local KR guys to go to Perry but they think that even that location is too far away. If and when I get my KR done and flying I would be more than glad to help someone set this up. There are A LOT of KRs over here so I don't think attendance would be an issue. Maybe a South West gathering would be something to think about. We could centralize somewhere between Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Southern Ca. Heck we could even make it a small guy gathering with invites to all the "little" (nothing over $20k) homebuilts. :o) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: 18 Sep 1998 12:29:04 -0700 From: "Richard Parker" Subject: KR: Non-Perry Participants >Looks like I wont be there either this year. Tried to get out yesterday >AM, IFR all day here in N FLA. Looks like a lot of the same today. >There's always next year. > >Tom Crawford >tomc@afn.org >Gainesville, FL >N262TC Forget about next year, how about next month? I'll be in Orlando from the 16th to the 21 st and would be more than willing to collect all kinds of bi-partisan data both in the air and on the ground about your airplane to disseminate to all other KR builders worldwide over the internet. Richard E. Parker Jaffrey, NH richontheroad@hotmail.com http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 18 Sep 1998 15:26:44 -0700 From: "ronald.freiberger" Subject: RE: KR: Windmilling Props Windmilling a prop is very easy when you have an old, tired engine with poor compression. Flying Magazine covered this years ago in the "I learned about flying from that"series. A flight instructor (yet) made it a common practice to shut down the engine in flight. (usually requires an approach to stall to get it stopped). One the occaision he relates, he had a chance to fly a pretty new airplane, and it would not restart. Fortunately, there was a beach nearby, so no big deal. I have done this with a Lycoming 0-320, and it will not (usually) restart. But, a "touch" of the starter in high speed dive give immediate high rpm. The answer is thus; just let your engine get a bit old and tired, and this probably won't be a problem (windmilling). BTW, if you have an aircraft available ( with a starter ), give stopping it a try; it's NOT ALWAYS easy.... except when you don't want it to! Ron Freiberger... back in Fort Myers with an instrument panel.. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Sep 1998 15:28:31 -0700 From: rmccall Subject: Re: KR: a new member/flight controls Don't worry about the language, we understand you just fine. Most of us couldn't do that well in another language. I spent some time in Germany and brought back a wife. I still have a hard time with German. So welcome aboard and let us hear from you often! Richard McCall Junction City, Kansas, USA Tom Stokes wrote: > On Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:12:06 +0200 "Stefan den Boer" > writes: > > Hallo > >My name is Stef den Boer and i am happy to be now on the kr net. I am > >from > >the Netherlands(europe) > >and bilding already for 10 years together with my father on the kr . I > >know > >my writing is realy bad, the reason is that this is my first letter in > >another langeust. I hope that everybody is now smiling to me/. > > Welcome Stef > I used to live in Kevelear Germany a short distance from Venlo > Nederlands. Would love to come back someday, I left there in 1993. > > Tom in Reno NV > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Sep 1998 15:28:37 -0700 From: rmccall Subject: KR: Re: - --------------9D5A0F895B270FE318C0FA22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Will it fit a Subaru? Rich McCall Junction City, KS R.W. Moore wrote: > I have inventes :"The Missing Link" Vacuum pump dive system for > Volkswagen airplane engines The system mounts where the magneto was on > the Diehl or the HAPI case. You can use the electric ignition in the > regular distributor hole. The electric ignition can be bought from > Greap Plains or other dealers. The unit sells for $295.00 + 5% S&H. > The unit has over 110 hours on the test stand. In some cases at > fly-ins the unit has ran for over 10 hours with out stopping. The > system uses a off the shelf 211CC vacuum pump with out modifying it in > any way. MPA CompanyPOB 622Toccoa, Ga. 30577706-779-3446Fax > 779-2302best time to call is in morningsRWMPLEASE REPOST - --------------9D5A0F895B270FE318C0FA22 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Will it fit a Subaru?

Rich McCall
Junction City, KS

R.W. Moore wrote:

 I have inventes :"The Missing Link" Vacuum pump dive system for Volkswagen airplane engines The system mounts where the magneto was on the Diehl or the HAPI case. You can use the electric ignition in the regular distributor hole. The electric ignition can be bought from Greap Plains or other dealers. The unit sells for $295.00 + 5% S&H. The unit has over 110 hours on the test stand. In some cases at fly-ins the unit has ran for over 10 hours with out stopping. The system uses a off the shelf 211CC vacuum pump with out modifying it in any way. MPA CompanyPOB 622Toccoa, Ga. 30577706-779-3446Fax 779-2302best time to call is in morningsRWMPLEASE REPOST
  - --------------9D5A0F895B270FE318C0FA22-- ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 1998 04:34:21 -0700 From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: 1999 Gathering (was Re: KR: IFR all day here in N FLA) In a message dated 9/18/98 10:39:43 AM Central Daylight Time, mikemims@pacbell.net writes: > If there is a vote to have the gathering in Kentucky next year those of us > who are west of the Mississippi should consider having a gathering somewhere > further to the left! So far, the majority of folks here at Perry are supporting the Kentucky Dam location for next year's gathering, and Dana Overall has volunteered to host. I haven't heard of anyone else volunteering, and I believe that will be the deciding factor. But, it ain't over til its over, and the vote/decision will be made tonight at the banquet. I'll be glad to take any suggested locations and represent anyone who wants to volunteer to host, just let me know before 1800 tonight, Central time. Cheers, Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com St. Charles MO KRNet Perry Correspondent ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 1998 09:34:05 -0700 From: "R.W. Moore" Subject: KR: Re: Re: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_012A_01BDE3C7.9D378360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, only VW with a HAPI or Diehl case. for a photo look in Aircraft = spruce Catalog 1998-99 =20 R. W. Moore "MISSING LINK" vacuum pump for VW airplane engines ----Original Message----- From: rmccall To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 6:33 PM Subject: KR: Re:=20 =20 =20 Will it fit a Subaru?=20 Rich McCall=20 Junction City, KS=20 R.W. Moore wrote:=20 I have inventes :"The Missing Link" Vacuum pump dive system for = Volkswagen airplane engines The system mounts where the magneto was on = the Diehl or the HAPI case. You can use the electric ignition in the = regular distributor hole. The electric ignition can be bought from Greap = Plains or other dealers. The unit sells for $295.00 + 5% S&H. The unit = has over 110 hours on the test stand. In some cases at fly-ins the unit = has ran for over 10 hours with out stopping. The system uses a off the = shelf 211CC vacuum pump with out modifying it in any way. MPA CompanyPOB = 622Toccoa, Ga. 30577706-779-3446Fax 779-2302best time to call is in = morningsRWMPLEASE REPOST =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_012A_01BDE3C7.9D378360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry, only VW with a HAPI or Diehl = case. for a=20 photo look in Aircraft spruce Catalog 1998-99
 
R. W. Moore
"MISSING = LINK"=20 vacuum pump
for VW airplane engines
 
 
 
 
 
 
----Original = Message-----
From:=20 rmccall <rmccall@oz-online.net>
To:=20 krnet-l@teleport.com = <krnet-l@teleport.com>
D= ate:=20 Friday, September 18, 1998 6:33 PM
Subject: KR: Re:=20

Will it fit a Subaru?=20

Rich McCall
Junction City, KS=20

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 I have=20 inventes :"The Missing Link" Vacuum pump dive system = for=20 Volkswagen airplane engines The system mounts where the magneto = was on=20 the Diehl or the HAPI case. You can use the electric ignition in = the=20 regular distributor hole. The electric ignition can be bought = from Greap=20 Plains or other dealers. The unit sells for $295.00 + 5% = S&H. The=20 unit has over 110 hours on the test stand. In some cases at = fly-ins the=20 unit has ran for over 10 hours with out stopping. The system = uses a off=20 the shelf 211CC vacuum pump with out modifying it in any=20 way. MPA=20 CompanyPOB=20 622Toccoa, = Ga.=20 30577706-779-3446Fax=20 779-2302best = time to=20 call is in morningsRWMPLEASE=20 REPOST
  = - ------=_NextPart_000_012A_01BDE3C7.9D378360-- ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 1998 13:38:34 -0700 From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: 1999 Gathering (was Re: KR: IFR all day here in N FLA) Dam it! I second the motion. Rich Parker Jaffrey, NH >Date: 19 Sep 1998 04:34:21 -0700 >From: EagleGator@aol.com >Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:33:16 EDT >be made tonight at the banquet. I'll be glad to take any suggested locations >and represent anyone who wants to volunteer to host, just let me know before >1800 tonight, Central time. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 1998 17:14:51 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: 1999 Gathering (was Re: KR: IFR all day here in N FLA) At 04:34 AM 9/19/98 -0700, you wrote: >So far, the majority of folks here at Perry are supporting the Kentucky Dam location for next year's gathering, and Dana Overall has volunteered to host.>>> Sounds like a great place, I hope I can "gather" up a few KRs from California to make the flight with next year. Keep us posted on the days activities. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 1998 20:21:59 -0700 From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: KR: Re: 1999 Gathering The 1999 Gathering will be at Kentucky Dam, with Dana Overall as the host. Dates are "to be determined" at this point pending a check on lodging availability etc. If you have any preferences on dates, Please send them directly to Dana, and let him serve as the point of contact for coordinating this. Please, let's not fill the list with "I like this date" posts..... More details on this year's gathering to follow, but right now a beer is calling my name!!! Cheers, Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com St. Charles MO ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 1998 19:23:37 -0700 From: "Tom Andersen" Subject: Re: KR: Windmilling Props/I give up Well, it looks like I'm going to bite the bullet and go with a starter on my DD Turbo Soob EA-81. What the heck, that's a nice luxury everyone will agree is a lot safer all around. With starter and full electrics, Roger Enn's 95hp DDTS EA-81 with 3-blade Warp drive prop is 212lbs FWF, so it's not that heavy anyway. This means I'll have a much larger battery than planned (15lbs now) but with distributor dual ignition, and dual electric fuel pumps, that's an added safety factor should the alternator fail. Anyone have a recommendation on starter batteries? - -Tom Andersen Orlando FL P.S. If I stay on KRNet for fifteen years, I think I'll have the perfect KR. I seem to be learning about homebuilts faster than I am building my KR-2S, which turns out to be a good thing for me. >>I have been planning on not installing a starter on my direct drive >>Subaru >>EA-81 turbo for the sake of simplicity and weight reduction. The >>question >>has come up that since these short KR-size props don't windmill at >>all, it >>may be a matter of safety. ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 05:40:50 -0700 From: Tom Crawford Subject: Re: KR: Non-Perry Participants Richard Parker wrote: > > >Looks like I wont be there either this year. Tried to get out yesterday > >AM, IFR all day here in N FLA. Looks like a lot of the same today. > >There's always next year. > > > >Tom Crawford > >tomc@afn.org > >Gainesville, FL > >N262TC > > Forget about next year, how about next month? I'll be in Orlando from > the 16th to the 21 st and would be more than willing to collect all > kinds of bi-partisan data both in the air and on the ground about your > airplane to disseminate to all other KR builders worldwide over the > internet. > > Richard E. Parker > Jaffrey, NH > richontheroad@hotmail.com > http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Richard, Everyone on this net has a standing invitation to come to Gainesville and get some stick time. That's what planes are for, right? Flyin'. My only limitation is the standard height/weight thing, which means no really big guys. Tom Crawford tomc@afn.org Gainesville, FL N262TC ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 10:55:08 -0700 From: "ronald.freiberger" Subject: KR: Wrinkle finish paint This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BDE495.A0BC58C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On previous projects, I've used a wrinkle or "crackle" finish paint for items like the instrument panel. Now, I can't find it anywhere; I used to by it in electronics stores, but now there's none. Can anyone suggest a source? Ron Freiberger in Fort myers ... with unpainted IP {;o) - ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BDE495.A0BC58C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On=20 previous projects, I've used a wrinkle or "crackle" finish = paint for=20 items like the instrument panel.  Now, I can't find it anywhere; I = used to=20 by it in electronics stores, but now there's none.  Can anyone = suggest a=20 source?
 
Ron=20 Freiberger in Fort myers ... with unpainted IP=20 {;o)
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