From: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com] Sent: Sunday, September 20, 1998 8:05 PM To: krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #152 krnet-l-digest Sunday, September 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 152 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Sep 1998 11:13:06 -0700 From: DFCPAC@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Wrinkle finish paint try motorcycle shops, harley's use that paint on there engines. i've bought it there before ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 11:27:04 -0700 From: "Keith" Subject: KR: Perry Pics This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BDE49A.99CA2420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Perry98 was excellent, the Builders/Pilots/Support were all = exceptionally helpful. Gave me the shot of adrenaline that I needed. = For all of you who were there, especially those of you who helped me = personally (to numerous to mention) THANKS! I put my Sony Digital Camera to the best use so far. (I'm using a = Sony Mactiva-MVC-FD7 Digital Camera - 640x480 resolution w/ 10:1 optical = Zoom and stores the pics in JPG format to 3 1/2" floppy disks) works = perfectly, I love it. Arrived home and put my photo's from Perry on my computer - My = website is down under major reconstruction - I have 80 pics @ 640x480 = resolution from the fly-in, but don't have any way to currently share = with the rest of the KR-Net. If anyone can post these on a common site = or FTP let me know and I'll E-mail them direct. =20 I took the pics for myself so I got details of what I was needing, sorry = if I left something out and I apologize for the apparent lack of = organization. (I lost the last disk so I don't have the last 30pics) =20 Hope these help someone. Keith Farnsworth=20 from Oklahoma City, OK Email: kafarn@ionet.net H Phone: 405-528-1366 - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BDE49A.99CA2420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Perry98=20 was excellent, the Builders/Pilots/Support were all exceptionally = helpful. =20 Gave me the shot of adrenaline that I needed. For all of you who = were=20 there, especially those of you who helped me personally (to numerous to = mention)=20 THANKS!

I put my Sony Digital Camera to = the best=20 use so far. (I'm using a Sony Mactiva-MVC-FD7 = Digital=20 Camera - 640x480 resolution w/ 10:1 optical Zoom and stores the pics in = JPG=20 format to 3 1/2" floppy disks) works perfectly, I love=20 it.

Arrived home and put my photo's = from Perry=20 on my computer - My website is down under major reconstruction - I have = 80 pics=20 @ 640x480 resolution from the fly-in, but don't have any way to = currently share=20 with the rest of the KR-Net. If anyone can post these on a common = site or=20 FTP let me know and I'll E-mail them direct.

I took the pics for myself so I got details of what = I was=20 needing, sorry if I left something out and I apologize for the apparent = lack of=20 organization. (I lost the last disk so I don't have = the last=20 30pics)

Hope these help someone.

Keith Farnsworth

from Oklahoma City, OK

Email: kafarn@ionet.net

H Phone: 405-528-1366

- ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BDE49A.99CA2420-- ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 11:43:58 -0700 From: "John Bouyea" Subject: KR: Re: Perry Pics This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BDE48C.1C42DBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Keith. Anyone can upload to kr2s.timberline.com. Just logon as anonymous and = use your email address as your password. Include a text file to list = what the pics are. After they are up there, shoot me a message = (johnbou@timberline.com) and I'll move them to a "pictures" page. John Bouyea kr2 - on the gear kr2s - building the spars Hillsboro, Oregon -----Original Message----- From: Keith To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Sunday, September 20, 1998 11:27 AM Subject: KR: Perry Pics =20 =20 Perry98 was excellent, the Builders/Pilots/Support were all = exceptionally helpful. Gave me the shot of adrenaline that I needed. = For all of you who were there, especially those of you who helped me = personally (to numerous to mention) THANKS! =20 I put my Sony Digital Camera to the best use so far. (I'm using = a Sony Mactiva-MVC-FD7 Digital Camera - 640x480 resolution w/ 10:1 = optical Zoom and stores the pics in JPG format to 3 1/2" floppy disks) = works perfectly, I love it. =20 Arrived home and put my photo's from Perry on my computer - My = website is down under major reconstruction - I have 80 pics @ 640x480 = resolution from the fly-in, but don't have any way to currently share = with the rest of the KR-Net. If anyone can post these on a common site = or FTP let me know and I'll E-mail them direct. =20 =20 I took the pics for myself so I got details of what I was needing, = sorry if I left something out and I apologize for the apparent lack of = organization. (I lost the last disk so I don't have the last 30pics) =20 =20 Hope these help someone. =20 Keith Farnsworth=20 from Oklahoma City, OK Email: kafarn@ionet.net H Phone: 405-528-1366 - ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BDE48C.1C42DBE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Keith.

Anyone can upload to kr2s.timberline.com. Just = logon as=20 anonymous and use your email address as your password. Include a = text file=20 to list what the pics are. After they are up there, shoot me a = message (johnbou@timberline.com) and = I'll move=20 them to a "pictures" page.

John Bouyea
kr2 - on the = gear
kr2s -=20 building the spars
Hillsboro, Oregon

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Keith <kafarn@ionet.net>
To: = krnet-l@teleport.com <krnet-l@teleport.com>
D= ate:=20 Sunday, September 20, 1998 11:27 AM
Subject: KR: Perry = Pics

=20 Perry98 was excellent, the Builders/Pilots/Support were all = exceptionally=20 helpful. Gave me the shot of adrenaline that I needed. = For all=20 of you who were there, especially those of you who helped me = personally (to=20 numerous to mention) THANKS!

I put my Sony Digital Camera = to the=20 best use so far. (I'm using a Sony Mactiva-MVC-FD7=20 Digital Camera - 640x480 resolution w/ 10:1 optical Zoom and stores = the pics=20 in JPG format to 3 1/2" floppy disks) works perfectly, I love=20 it.

Arrived home and put my = photo's from=20 Perry on my computer - My website is down under major reconstruction = - - I=20 have 80 pics @ 640x480 resolution from the fly-in, but don't have = any way to=20 currently share with the rest of the KR-Net. If anyone can = post these=20 on a common site or FTP let me know and I'll E-mail them = direct. =20

I took the pics for myself so I got details of = what I was=20 needing, sorry if I left something out and I apologize for the = apparent lack=20 of organization. (I lost the last disk so I = don't have=20 the last 30pics)

Hope these help someone.

Keith Farnsworth

from Oklahoma City, OK

Email: kafarn@ionet.net

H Phone: = 405-528-1366

- ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BDE48C.1C42DBE0-- ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 11:47:55 -0700 From: Afzoomer@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Wrinkle finish paint it's used alot for car restorations. Check JCWhitney or call a local hot rod shop. Craig KR wannabe ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 12:09:29 -0700 From: "Keith" Subject: KR: Re: Perry Pics This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01BDE49F.730E6C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brian Bland from Claremore, OK offered to post those pics so I've sent = them on to him. Let me know when/where they find a home Brian - Thanks Keith Farnsworth OKC, OK=20 -----Original Message----- From: Keith To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Sunday, September 20, 1998 1:29 PM Subject: KR: Perry Pics =20 =20 Perry98 was excellent, the Builders/Pilots/Support were all = exceptionally helpful. Gave me the shot of adrenaline that I needed. = For all of you who were there, especially those of you who helped me = personally (to numerous to mention) THANKS! =20 I put my Sony Digital Camera to the best use so far. (I'm using = a Sony Mactiva-MVC-FD7 Digital Camera - 640x480 resolution w/ 10:1 = optical Zoom and stores the pics in JPG format to 3 1/2" floppy disks) = works perfectly, I love it. =20 Arrived home and put my photo's from Perry on my computer - My = website is down under major reconstruction - I have 80 pics @ 640x480 = resolution from the fly-in, but don't have any way to currently share = with the rest of the KR-Net. If anyone can post these on a common site = or FTP let me know and I'll E-mail them direct. =20 =20 I took the pics for myself so I got details of what I was needing, = sorry if I left something out and I apologize for the apparent lack of = organization. (I lost the last disk so I don't have the last 30pics) =20 =20 Hope these help someone. =20 Keith Farnsworth=20 from Oklahoma City, OK Email: kafarn@ionet.net H Phone: 405-528-1366 - ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01BDE49F.730E6C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Brian Bland from Claremore, OK offered to post those pics so = I've=20 sent them on to him. Let me know when/where they find a home Brian = - -=20 Thanks

Keith Farnsworth

OKC, OK =

Hope these help someone.

Keith Farnsworth

from Oklahoma City, OK

Email: kafarn@ionet.net

H Phone: = 405-528-1366

- ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01BDE49F.730E6C60-- ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 13:21:26 -0700 From: rmccall Subject: Re: KR: Re: 1999 Gathering Keep in mind, the most important aspect of the fly-ins are the training sessions and the rides, for new builders. A lot of people left early this year because training seesions were only on Saturday. EagleGator@aol.com wrote: > The 1999 Gathering will be at Kentucky Dam, with Dana Overall as the host. > Dates are "to be determined" at this point pending a check on lodging > availability etc. If you have any preferences on dates, Please send them > directly to Dana, and let him serve as the point of contact for coordinating > this. Please, let's not fill the list with "I like this date" posts..... > > More details on this year's gathering to follow, but right now a beer is > calling my name!!! > > Cheers, > Rick Junkin > EagleGator@aol.com > St. Charles MO ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 14:30:39 -0700 From: "Tim Stone" Subject: KR: Re: Wrinkle finish paint This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BDE4BC.0F4C86E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: ronald.freiberger =20 =20 snipped =20 =20 On previous projects, I've used a wrinkle or "crackle" finish .=20 Now, I can't find it=20 =20 Ron Freiberger in Fort myers=20 =20 =20 Hi Ron, I've seen it at Pep Boy's and Discount Auto. Another interesting = finish is the hammertone line of paint. I've found that at Home Depot. Tim S. =20 =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BDE4BC.0F4C86E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 ronald.freiberger <ronald.freiberger@MCI2000.c= om>

snipped

On=20 previous projects, I've used a wrinkle or "crackle" finish = .

Now, I can't find it

Ron Freiberger in Fort myers

Hi = Ron,

I've seen it at Pep = Boy's and=20 Discount Auto. Another interesting finish is the hammertone = line of=20 paint. I've found that at Home Depot.

Tim =20 S.

- ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BDE4BC.0F4C86E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:06:58 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: Perry Photographs uploading.... Wow! I have been sooo busy the last few days at the KR Gathering. I snagged a nap this afternoon, as my plane doesn't leave OKC until 8:00PM local. I am uploading RAW Perry '98 Gathering Photos, and will start to work on our new http://www.krnet.org webpage later today on the airplane. Most of the photos are 46K in size, but a couple are larger. There is one photo of a tygon tubing fuel line installation. Please don't do this on your airplane. Tygon tubing will melt if it gets hot enough, and is not fire resistant, so it makes for a risky fuel route when it gets near the exhaust manifold in the foreground of the photo. Again, these are RAW photos... I don't captions or web stuff around them, go to http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/perry98 for an index of the files that have made it so far. - -- Ross ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 17:46:51 -0700 From: Ron Lee Subject: KR: 1998 Gathering: My thoughts Once again I drove (sigh). This time I left in time to get there while it was light. Unfortunately, no rides were being given. After a while, I discovered the ride sign-up list. To my horror, I was #35. With it likley that I would have to leave my midday saturday, I was doubtful that I would get a ride. To make matters worse, two of the desired planes to get time in had mechanical problems. Thusly discouraged, I left early to my small romm at Days Inn (but only $30). I arrived early the next day hoping to get some time in but most pilots seemed to wait unti the 900 AM briefing. I guess that is so the winds can pick up and air get turbulent. Things are really looking bad now. But one person interceded and was able to get Randy Smith to give me some time. Allalujah. But there is no second stick! Never fear.. Randy found a wood dowel and improvised a makeshift control stick. Of course being a non-standard configuration initially affected my flying. If you are not familiar with Randy's plane, it is yellow and powered by a Continental O-200 with a BIG metal prop. It has a modified turtle- deck with windows. It looks a lot different than most KRs. Anyway, Randy takes off with me in the right seat. After he gets it up high enough and trimmed, I take over. Despite knowing about the responsiveness, I end up chasing the pitch around. Probably did not have my hand firmly planted in my leg. Randy takes over and restabilizes the plane and I try again. The up and down motion repeated itself and I am beginning to think I have a plane I will never fly. I'll kill myself if I fly it like this. So I verify it is a -2S and it is. What have I done? Randy stabilizes the plane a second time and i try again. This time I nail it. Not the best at left turns (it wants to climb) but I basically fly it well. After a 10 minutes of turns I tell Randy it is time to go back (I made myself a bit sick). I am still wondering why I am so inept at flying it. Has all the flying in a Champ where you push the stick forward a foot or more hurt my sense of control? I flew 133RM with Roy Marsh with no problems. I even stalled it and recovered easily. Something is different now. On the ground I discussed it with Randy and he notes that with the two of us onboard, we were somewhere near the aft CG limit...which supposedly makes the pitch control somewhat more sensitive than at a more forward CG. I sure hope that is true because otherwise I have lost my ability to handle a KR. My plan now is to get mine airborne in the morning then fly at low speeds (under 100 mph) until I am proficient at handling it. Then I can land it or at least make a semi-controlled crash at the airport. May have to ensure enough fuel to get to Colorado Springs in case I need "the equipment". Oh well, the saga of the ground-bound KR drags on. Oops. Forgot to discuss other aspects of the gathering. This year the winds were better. I don't know if everyone got to fly in a KR. Maybe Rick will report on that. Certainly getting stick time is a must for someone getting close to flying. There is no substitute for flying a KR that I know of. Perhaps others know if any other planes easily available are similar in responsiveness. My preference is to fly early before winds, heat and turbulence make the flying. The other option is in the late afternoon when it cools down. Of course if you have the gathering at a time of year that is not hot it helps. Mark's fiberglass forum was well attended. Must have been at least thirty folks there. I had to leave before the engine rebuild unfortunately. If that entire process gets in the video, I will buy one for sure. I saw some of the air to air footage shot from a Tri-Pacer. Really nice. I saw Jeff Scott, Jim Faughn, and Marty Roberts. As I was leaving, the flyover for the town fair was in progress. Looked really good guys. Ron Lee ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 17:50:22 -0700 From: "bbland" Subject: KR: Re: Re: Perry Pics This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BDE4CF.96EFC0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Keith's pics are now available at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9904/Perry98/ Brian J Bland Claremore, OK Mail to: bbland@gateway.net http://www.flight2000.com/hangar/KR-2S/ =20 =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BDE4CF.96EFC0E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Keith's pics are now available = at:

http://www.= geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9904/Perry98/

Brian J Bland
Claremore, = OK

Mail to: bbland@gateway.net
http://www.flight2000.com= /hangar/KR-2S/

- ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BDE4CF.96EFC0E0-- ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 17:53:55 -0700 From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: KR: KR Gathering Prizes, comments Well, gang, here it is, the wee hours of the morning in Perry Oklahoma, and another KR Gathering has concluded. Here are some of the highlights: As for this year's gathering, it went pretty well. Airplane problems and weather (winds, turbulence) combined to make the ride-giving a bit scarce. The Friday night barbecue was well attended, and Don Betchan and his family once again put on a feast of BBQ brisket and chicken for everyone. The keg of beer was only half empty at the end of the evening, so we'll have to work a little harder at it next year. There was also entertainment provided by Jim Faughn, who arrived with his guitar and an original "KR Pilot Song". You'll have to ask him for a copy.... Saturday's agenda was pretty slow paced, with one seminar (Mark Langford, Composite Basics) in the morning and three seminars (Steve Bennett, VW Engine Assembly; Rick Junkin, Flight Test Primer; Dana Overall, Poly Fiber Finishing Process) in the afternoon. I heard good words about all of the seminars from the folks who attended. On the flying side, there was a mass KR flyby of downtown Perry by almost all of the KR's in attendance. This was done as a part of the local celebration of the anniversary of the land rush. The day at the airport concluded with a short takeoff/spot landing contest. Winds were fairly stiff, which made for an interesting contest. The banquet was held Saturday evening, with LOTS of (OK, too many) door prizes. The majority of the people in attendance walked out with either a Wicks or AS&S catalog, and a few other goodies. Ross Youngblood presented some great door prizes in the name of KRNet, with thanks going to Randy Stein for the name tags and soliciting door prizes. The traditional awards came out as follows: Best KR-2: Calvin Campbell Best Workmanship: Calvin Campbell People's Choice Award: Bobby Muse Jr. Oldest KR Pilot: Bob Muse Sr. Longest Distance Traveled (by KR): Bob Muse Sr. Youngest Pilot: Jeff Scott Spot Landing Contest: Tom Glaeser Editor's Choice: Les Palmer The decision made at the banquet was for Dana Overall to host the 1999 Gathering at Kentucky Dam. The dates will be set after Dana has a chance to check on the availability of facilities and lodging there. Just for info, the other locations that were suggested were El Paso TX and Mt. Vernon IL. I would expect Mt. Vernon to be a serious player for the 2000 Gathering. That's about it for the formal stuff, but there were a lot of conversations among individuals about a lot of the subjects we discuss regularly here on KRNet. I'll leave those to the rest of the KRNetters who were in attendance. Overall, a successful event. Don't miss next year!!! Cheers, Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com St. Charles MO 63304 ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 17:58:01 -0700 From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: KR: Kentucky Dam State Park Info Here's the URL for info on Kentucky Dam State Park: http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/parks/kydam2.htm Take a look, it should make for a great gathering next year, something for the whole family! Cheers, Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com St. Charles MO ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 18:52:41 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: 1998 Gathering: My thoughts At 05:46 PM 9/20/98 -0700, you wrote: <<< I am beginning to think I have a plane I will never fly. I'll kill myself if I fly it like this. So I verify it is a -2S and it is. What have I done?>>> I don't think Randy's KR is an S model if that's what you meant. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Putting the engine back together now! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 19:21:56 -0700 From: "R.W. Moore" Subject: KR: Re: Wrinkle finish paint This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BDE4E5.5F28E040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try J. C. Whitney Chicago, Ill Wrinkle Paint.=20 R. W. Moore, Inventor=20 Missing Linl Vacuum Pump Drive system for VW Airplane Engines -----Original Message----- From: ronald.freiberger To: KRNET Date: Sunday, September 20, 1998 1:56 PM Subject: KR: Wrinkle finish paint =20 =20 On previous projects, I've used a wrinkle or "crackle" finish paint = for items like the instrument panel. Now, I can't find it anywhere; I = used to by it in electronics stores, but now there's none. Can anyone = suggest a source? =20 Ron Freiberger in Fort myers ... with unpainted IP {;o) - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BDE4E5.5F28E040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Try J. C. Whitney Chicago, Ill = Wrinkle Paint.=20

R. W. Moore, = Inventor=20

Missing Linl Vacuum Pump

Drive system for VW

Airplane Engines

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 ronald.freiberger <ronald.freiberger@MCI2000.c= om>
To:=20 KRNET <krnet-l@teleport.com>
D= ate:=20 Sunday, September 20, 1998 1:56 PM
Subject: KR: = Wrinkle finish=20 paint

On=20 previous projects, I've used a wrinkle or "crackle" finish = paint=20 for items like the instrument panel. Now, I can't find it = anywhere; I=20 used to by it in electronics stores, but now there's none. Can = anyone=20 suggest a source?

Ron Freiberger in Fort myers ... with unpainted IP=20 {;o)

- ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BDE4E5.5F28E040-- ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 19:33:14 -0700 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: KR: Home Again! After about 15 hours of flight over the course of the weekend including lots of air time at the gathering, N1213W is home again from another very enjoyable KR Gathering. Tired and smeared with bugs, grime and oil, I think it will be cleaned up and ready for the Copperstate fly-in in three weeks. Hope those of you from the west coast that couldn't make the gathering will make it to Williams Gateway in Mesa, AZ for Copperstate. Many thanks to the guys that put on the Gathering. Don isn't on the Net, but he did a great job again this year. Many thanks to Rick Junkin for organizing an event and putting together a safety plan where I think we all felt safe in the air this year. I hope you'll volunteer to help with the safety planning again for next year. Larry Flesner provided lots of air time for the video crew in his Tri-pacer for air to air video that will make Video Bob's 1998 Gathering Video an absolute must. It was great to get to meet all the old faces again, and put some old names with some faces I hadn't met or remembered from before. Dana, this years event will be hard to top, but I'll be looking forward to next year in Kentucky. I know you'll do a first class job. Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kjeffs.html http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 1998 20:05:16 -0700 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: 1998 Gathering: My thoughts Ron, Randy is willing to push the aft limits a bit more than I am. I was trying to get you into a plane where you could at least get some work. You'll have to trust me on this, but you plane probably flies much better with two people than Randy's does. Your plane will also fly much, much better with one person than it did with you and Roy both in it. You'll probably wonder why you waited so long. There is no question that as the CG moves aft, it gets much more sensative and unstable in pitch. By yourself your plane, I doubt that you will have much of a problem. My recommendations for your first flight. Know your airspeed numbers. Try not to chase the plane, but if you do porpoise a little during climbout, keep it in the numbers where it will fly while you continue your climbout to a safe altitude to do some slowflight and slow cruise work. Spend about 30 - 45 minutes doing air work feeling out the plane, then land before you are exhausted. The adrenelin from the anticipation will wear you out. That will subside with time in the plane. Practice your approach and slowflight speeds at altitude so you know what numbers will work and what the plane feels like. Keep your approach speed to the known numbers. Too fast of an approach will leave you porpoising over the runway while you try to scrub off speed. If you fly the approach at the numbers you know should work, the plane lands very easily. Most of all, HAVE FUN!!!. This is more of a psychological hurdle for you than a lack of skill. Enjoy the experience and build your confidence. If you can fly a KR with two people in it in the aft end of the CG range, you're ready to fly your own. Once you're comfortable, come visit me! Jeff Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kjeffs.html http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm On Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:35:15 -0600 Ron Lee writes: >Once again I drove (sigh). This time I left in time to get there >while it was light. Unfortunately, no rides were being given. > >After a while, I discovered the ride sign-up list. To my horror, >I was #35. With it likley that I would have to leave my midday >saturday, >I was doubtful that I would get a ride. To make matters worse, two >of the desired planes to get time in had mechanical problems. Thusly >discouraged, I left early to my small romm at Days Inn (but only $30). > >I arrived early the next day hoping to get some time in but most >pilots >seemed to wait unti the 900 AM briefing. I guess that is so the winds >can pick up and air get turbulent. Things are really looking bad now. > >But one person interceded and was able to get Randy Smith to give me >some time. Allalujah. But there is no second stick! Never fear.. >Randy found a wood dowel and improvised a makeshift control stick. >Of course being a non-standard configuration initially affected my >flying. > >If you are not familiar with Randy's plane, it is yellow and powered >by >a Continental O-200 with a BIG metal prop. It has a modified turtle- >deck with windows. It looks a lot different than most KRs. > >Anyway, Randy takes off with me in the right seat. After he gets it >up high enough and trimmed, I take over. Despite knowing about the >responsiveness, I end up chasing the pitch around. Probably did not >have my hand firmly planted in my leg. Randy takes over and >restabilizes >the plane and I try again. > >The up and down motion repeated itself and I am beginning to think I >have >a plane I will never fly. I'll kill myself if I fly it like this. So >I >verify it is a -2S and it is. What have I done? > >Randy stabilizes the plane a second time and i try again. This time I >nail >it. >Not the best at left turns (it wants to climb) but I basically fly it >well. > >After a 10 minutes of turns I tell Randy it is time to go back (I made >myself >a bit sick). I am still wondering why I am so inept at flying it. >Has all the flying in a Champ where you push the stick forward a foot >or more >hurt my sense of control? I flew 133RM with Roy Marsh with no >problems. >I even stalled it and recovered easily. Something is different now. > >On the ground I discussed it with Randy and he notes that with the two >of us >onboard, we were somewhere near the aft CG limit...which supposedly >makes >the pitch control somewhat more sensitive than at a more forward CG. > >I sure hope that is true because otherwise I have lost my ability to >handle >a KR. My plan now is to get mine airborne in the morning then fly at >low >speeds (under 100 mph) until I am proficient at handling it. Then I >can land >it or at least make a semi-controlled crash at the airport. May have >to >ensure >enough fuel to get to Colorado Springs in case I need "the equipment". > >Oh well, the saga of the ground-bound KR drags on. > >Oops. Forgot to discuss other aspects of the gathering. This year >the winds >were better. I don't know if everyone got to fly in a KR. Maybe Rick >will >report on that. Certainly getting stick time is a must for someone >getting >close to flying. There is no substitute for flying a KR that I know >of. >Perhaps others know if any other planes easily available are similar >in >responsiveness. > >My preference is to fly early before winds, heat and turbulence make >the >flying. The other option is in the late afternoon when it cools down. > >Of course if you have the gathering at a time of year that is not hot >it helps. > >Mark's fiberglass forum was well attended. Must have been at least >thirty >folks there. > >I had to leave before the engine rebuild unfortunately. If that >entire >process gets in the video, I will buy one for sure. I saw some of the >air >to air footage shot from a Tri-Pacer. Really nice. I saw Jeff Scott, >Jim Faughn, and Marty Roberts. > >As I was leaving, the flyover for the town fair was in progress. >Looked >really >good guys. > >Ron Lee > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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