From: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com] Sent: Sunday, October 25, 1998 8:55 AM To: krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #166 krnet-l-digest Sunday, October 25 1998 Volume 02 : Number 166 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:38:51 -0400 From: "WARRON GRAY" Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? Hey Gordon , are you talking about ea-81 if so we have a cradle mount that we make for the nsi drive if i can help let me know it swings away for those constant removals (LIKE WE REALLY HAVE TO) .WARRONFLYS@WORLDNET.ATT.NET - -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Brimhall To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Friday, October 23, 1998 3:14 PM Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? >Don't bother me abit, my wife is going to follow me around with a truck full of >parts, like a chase vehicle they use with people riding the old Harleys. > >Anybody have plans for quick disconnect engine mounts? > >"What do you mean, we already used engine 2" I thought we brought three" > > >Gordon > >KR2616TJ@aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 98-10-23 12:29:17 EDT, you write: >> >> << >>> I believe Steve has been in business for about 15 years. I'll start a >> fire here, but at Perry whenever a "popular" auto conversion airplane fly >> (there there only two of these), every VW driver around scrambled for their >> airplanes. It looked the air raid siren had just gone off. Even the 1835 was >> faster.>>> >> >> Its the 100hp engine that isnt! :o) Come on guys you know I couldnt >> leave this one alone! >> >> >> Boy you could tell I was having my first cup of coffee this morning with that >> fantastic grasp of the English language, huh. Course I could have said that >> one of them was trailored in because he was concerned about the reliable on a >> long cross country....................but I wouldn't say that. >> >> Only kidding, only kidding, only kidding.............there I said it three >> time, don't take it seriously :-). >> >> Back in the trench. >> >> Dana Overall >> Richmond, KY >> mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com >> http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:07:06 -0700 From: "Ronald R. Eason Sr." Subject: KR: Heads-up Display and Fuel Management Board This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BDFEB8.54960F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Ron Eason 7333 North Brooklyn Gladstone, MO. 64118-2329 Phone: (B) 816-468-4091 e-mail: jrlkc@mindspring.com KC Office Business Web Site: jrl-engineering.com Temporary Location (personal) until Dec.1,98, reason1@ficom.net KR NET GUYS, I had my Heads-Up Display ( H.U.D.) with me and demonstrated its functions for a few KR builders at the Perry KR Gathering. I also had my Fuel Management Board to demonstrate. I am assembling these items for my own KR2 and will sell them to interested KR builders. I think the H.U.D. is shown operating in this years’ KR video, they took some shots of it anyway. The H.U.D., .named “KNOT-VUE”, because it constantly displays AIR SPEED, is a after market automotive GM Delco display similar to the one installed in the Grand Prix Pontiac. You can see what the H.U.D. looks like by visiting your Pontiac Dealer. The KNOT-VUE H.U.D. will not take the place of any aircraft instruments, but is used as a complement to those instruments (just as it is in the Pontiac). The KNOT-VUE H.U.D. has been bench tested against a calibrated Rock Mountain Instrument u/ENCODER ( See Photo ). KNOT-VUE has been flight-tested and checked against GPS air speed and has been accurate within + - 1 knot. Repeatability is good. A patient is applied for on the pressure sensor board. THE KNOT-VUE H.U.D. WILL NOT TAKE THE PLACE OF YOUR AIR SPEED INDICATOR IN YOUR INSTRUMENT PANEL. IT WILL NOT SOLD TO TAKE THE PLACE OF A AIR SPEED INDICATOR. IT IS FOR REFERENCE ONLY. With a “in your face H.U.D.”, like the KNOT-VUE, keeping your head outside the cockpit while maneuvering, with real time knowledge of air speed, can help avoid accidents. The H.U.D. weighs about 8 oz. complete with a Black Plastic Enclosure, fold-down Refractor Lens and Pressure Transducer Board. The H.U.D. is all solid state electronics requiring 12 volts, 3 amp. circuit. The display projects the images on a flip-up Refractor Lens, which is positioned in the line of sight (vue) of the pilot and in front of the windshield. The image looks like it’s floating outside the windshield on the engine cowling (an optical illusion). We will have data sheets on how to install the KNOT-VUE on a KR project on the JRL ENGINEERING Web Page in a few weeks, however you may e-mail me for copies also. I am presently negotiating with Delco to buy quantities of the display. They tell me that the national Delco repair shops carry spare parts and can repair the displays. I do not know what the KNOT-VUE will cost at this writing, but it will be as economical as I can make it. This is not my bread and butter income. Delco has two new models available that we are presently evaluating. One display model adds tuned Radio Frequency Information on the H.U.D. display. The second display model adds Tuned Radio Frequency and GPS information on the H.U.D. display. If anyone is interested in info on these H.U.D. models contact me about our evaluation progress. The Fuel Management Board is another part of my project. Its for keeping my header tank full of fuel by pumping fuel from my left and right wing tank. Technically the Fuel Management Board is a “On Delay Alternating Power Relay”. It controls two 10 amp electric fuel pumps. A schematic of the field wiring is attached along with a Photo of the Fuel Management Board. The Fuel Management Board uses one Float Switch (Normally Closed Contact with tank full) and we program the adjustable “On Delay Timer” for 15 Minutes ( one Gallon fuel burn ) after the float contact opens due to fuel burn. After 15 minutes the No. 1 Pump is turned “ON” and fills the header tank. Then on the second cycle the No. 2 Pump turns “ON” and the cycle continues. A “Auto-Manual” Control Switch is used with two “On-Off” Switches for full control of the process. Field Wiring Schematic is available on our web or by e-mail. Information about the KNOT-VUE and Fuel Management Board will be entered on the JRL ENGINEERING CONSORTIUM LTD. Web Site at jrl-engineering.com. in a fe w weeks. I can be contacted at reason1@ficom.net and ron@jrl-engineering.com also. Thanks to the KR NET for doing such a good job and keeping us all in in a inspired and going on our KR projects. Sincerely, Ron Eason P.S. To Vue or KNOT-VUE is the question ???? - ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BDFEB8.54960F80 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Ronald R. Eason Sr..vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Ronald R. Eason Sr..vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Eason Sr.;Ronald;R. FN:Ronald R. Eason Sr. ORG:J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd.;Engineering TITLE:C.E.O., President NOTE:Appartment Veranda House, 100 W. Lincoln ST., Tullahoma. TN. = 37388, House phone 931-455-7033, Fax 931-455-9335, Aptmt.#308, phone = 931-393-3165. TEL;WORK;VOICE:816-468-4091 TEL;HOME;VOICE:816-468-4425 TEL;PAGER;VOICE:816-989-9692 TEL;WORK;FAX:816-468-5465 TEL;HOME;FAX:816-468-5465 ADR;WORK:;jrlkc@mindspring.com;7333 North = Brooklyn;Gladstone,;MO.;64118-2329;U.S.A. LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:jrlkc@mindspring.com=3D0D=3D0A7333= North Brooklyn=3D0D=3D0AGladstone,, MO. 64118-232=3D 9=3D0D=3D0AU.S.A. ADR;HOME:;;7333 N. Brooklyn;Gladstone,;MO.;64118-2329;U.S.A. LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:7333 N. = Brooklyn=3D0D=3D0AGladstone,, MO. 64118-2329=3D0D=3D0AU.S.A. URL: URL:http://jrl-engineering.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:ron@jrl-engineering.com EMAIL;INTERNET:jrlkc@mindspring.com EMAIL;INTERNET:reason1@ficom.net REV:19981024T020706Z END:VCARD - ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BDFEB8.54960F80-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:42:06 EDT From: Horn2004@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: KR: New airfoil? In a message dated 10/23/98 11:47:58 AM, you wrote: <> Last year it only made it as far as Ardmore. Guess he figured it'd be better to only fly within gliding distance of the ramp. Steve Horn horn2004@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:51:43 -0700 From: MARVIN MCCOY Subject: Re: KR: Gluing onto glass Oscar: The only thing I would add to what everyone else said is that it would be a good idea to clean the glass surface with acetone in addition to sanding it.. Marvin McCoy Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing field - ---------- Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > Hello, netters > > When epoxying something onto a glassed area, do you need to sand first, > or does epoxy stick to cured resin/glass pretty good? And along the > same lines, would you need to peelply in a spot where you knew you would > be epoxying something onto that place later, like a fairlead block or a > metal fitting? > > Thanks > > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, Oregon > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:28:58 PDT From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR: KR-3 (no archive) You guys should brush up on copyright protection laws. That picture looks way too familiar. :-o >Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:38:32 -0700 >From: Micheal Mims >To: krnet-l@teleport.com >Subject: Re: KR: KR-3 (no archive) >Reply-To: krnet-l@teleport.com > >Oscar Zuniga wrote: >A parting shot for the weekend; although I haven't seen anything on >> the(failed) KR-3 amphibian, there is another abortive KR mutant lurking at http://a51.wetworks.org/zuniga/>>> > >Hey mister you be careful how you describe my KR2ST! Its still in >progress dude not aborted! :o) >-- >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >Micheal Mims >SP290,.. Putting the engine back together again! >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >Irvine Ca >Fax 949.856.9417 >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:49:04 -0400 From: Allan Horne Subject: Re: KR: KR-3 (no archive) I was wondering what engines you were going to use on your KR2-T. What side would you you install the VW engine and would the other side be a Subaru. Richard Parker wrote: > You guys should brush up on copyright protection laws. That picture > looks way too familiar. :-o > > > >Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:38:32 -0700 > >From: Micheal Mims > >To: krnet-l@teleport.com > >Subject: Re: KR: KR-3 (no archive) > >Reply-To: krnet-l@teleport.com > > > >Oscar Zuniga wrote: > >A parting shot for the weekend; although I haven't seen anything on > >> the(failed) KR-3 amphibian, there is another abortive KR mutant > lurking at http://a51.wetworks.org/zuniga/>>> > > > >Hey mister you be careful how you describe my KR2ST! Its still in > >progress dude not aborted! :o) > >-- > >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > >Micheal Mims > >SP290,.. Putting the engine back together again! > >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > >Irvine Ca > >Fax 949.856.9417 > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:30:19 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: [Fwd: KR upclose] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------BC6D27F02229ECB521CCB062 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jack wants to talk with a KRnetter near him in Fayetteville NC. He's not yet a list subscriber so email him directly. -- Ross - --------------BC6D27F02229ECB521CCB062 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: by mail1 for krnet (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.21 1997/08/10) Wed Oct 14 22:21:41 1998) X-From_: Jaccoo@aol.com Fri Oct 09 20:47:15 1998 Return-Path: Delivered-To: krnet@smtp3.teleport.com Received: (qmail 16495 invoked by uid 10244); 9 Oct 1998 20:47:14 -0000 Delivered-To: krnet+krnet.org-X-krnet@krnet.org Received: (qmail 16470 invoked from network); 9 Oct 1998 20:47:12 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by smtp3.teleport.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 1998 20:47:12 -0000 Received: from Jaccoo@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 4EAKa18748 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:44:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Jaccoo@aol.com Message-ID: <516694f4.361e75ad@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:44:29 EDT To: krnet@krnet.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: KR upclose Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Jack Cooper 5101 Chesapeake Rd. Fayetteville NC 28311 jaccoo@aol.com 10/9/98 The KR-2S has got my attention as a possible a/c to build and fly. I would like to see one either under construction or preferbly finished before I make a decision. Do you know of any in North Carolina or vacinity. If you could help put me in contact, it would be appreciated. Thanks - --------------BC6D27F02229ECB521CCB062-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:35:11 -0700 From: Gordon Brimhall Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? Warron I'm not even to the plane building stage yet, but have a Suberu engine to get from my Son out of a 1980 Brat, not sure which it is but would guess it is the EA-81. and I have a couple VW engines but they are for my Sandrail I am building right now. I was kind of kidding about quick change engines but may be a good idea for the others. Gordon WARRON GRAY wrote: > Hey Gordon , are you talking about ea-81 if so we have a cradle mount that > we make for the nsi drive if i can help let me know it swings away for those > constant removals (LIKE WE REALLY HAVE TO) .WARRONFLYS@WORLDNET.ATT.NET > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon Brimhall > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Date: Friday, October 23, 1998 3:14 PM > Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? > > >Don't bother me abit, my wife is going to follow me around with a truck > full of > >parts, like a chase vehicle they use with people riding the old Harleys. > > > >Anybody have plans for quick disconnect engine mounts? > > > >"What do you mean, we already used engine 2" I thought we brought three" > > > > > >Gordon > > > >KR2616TJ@aol.com wrote: > > > >> In a message dated 98-10-23 12:29:17 EDT, you write: > >> > >> << >>> I believe Steve has been in business for about 15 years. I'll > start a > >> fire here, but at Perry whenever a "popular" auto conversion airplane > fly > >> (there there only two of these), every VW driver around scrambled for > their > >> airplanes. It looked the air raid siren had just gone off. Even the > 1835 was > >> faster.>>> > >> > >> Its the 100hp engine that isnt! :o) Come on guys you know I couldnt > >> leave this one alone! >> > >> > >> Boy you could tell I was having my first cup of coffee this morning with > that > >> fantastic grasp of the English language, huh. Course I could have said > that > >> one of them was trailored in because he was concerned about the reliable > on a > >> long cross country....................but I wouldn't say that. > >> > >> Only kidding, only kidding, only kidding.............there I said it > three > >> time, don't take it seriously :-). > >> > >> Back in the trench. > >> > >> Dana Overall > >> Richmond, KY > >> mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com > >> http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:11:34 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:42:06 EDT Horn2004@aol.com writes: > >In a message dated 10/23/98 11:47:58 AM, you wrote: > ><one of them was trailored in because he was concerned about the >reliable on a >long cross country....................but I wouldn't say that.>> > >Last year it only made it as far as Ardmore. Guess he figured it'd be >better >to only fly within gliding distance of the ramp. > >Steve Horn >horn2004@aol.com > Me thinks the L.P. haul in static displays are giving the Soobs a bad name. I had a friend that is a tool and die maker machinist closely examine a redrive that L.P. had built and sold. His recommendation was that it be placed in the nearest trash receptical before it gets someone killed. Still wonder why he hauls the plane to fly-ins? I don't. Of course maybe my C-85 is giving Continentals a bad name too. :o) All the parts are here and I'm hoping to get it put back together by Monday afternoon. Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM flameto:jscott.pilot@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:20:55 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: Re: KR: New airfoil? At 08:42 PM 10/23/98 EDT, you wrote: >Last year it only made it as far as Ardmore. Guess he figured it'd be better to only fly within gliding distance of the ramp.>>> > OK guys were kinda cutting to the bone now. Maybe we better stop before WWIV breaks out here on KRNet again and we lose some readers. Some of us don't take jokes too well (guilty) and some of us bash a little too much (guilty again). They can all stop running no matter what make or model. Even if it doesn't perform up to some of our standards I think Les deserves a huge pat on the back for his fiberglassing skills and the fact he scratch built his redrive himself. Man,.. what a plane it would be with an O-200 on it though! :o) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Building ailerons and firewall now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:23:51 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: KR-3 (no archive) At 07:49 PM 10/23/98 -0400, you wrote: >I was wondering what engines you were going to use on your KR2-T. What side would you you install the VW engine and would the other side be a Subaru.>>> That would be interesting but I would get tired of being yawed around in circles by the VW! HAHAHAHHAAHA (just a joke guys). Seriously though, two 2180 vws is what I am thinking. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Building ailerons and firewall now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 06:21:32 -0700 From: Gordon Brimhall Subject: Re: KR: KR-3 (no archive) How do you patent a wing, fuselage, tail, 2 engines. Out of 650 homebuilt designs around, how many look almost the same? Gordon Allan Horne wrote: > I was wondering what engines you were going to use on your KR2-T. What > side would you you install the VW engine and would the other side be a > Subaru. > > Richard Parker wrote: > > > You guys should brush up on copyright protection laws. That picture > > looks way too familiar. :-o > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:38:32 -0700 > > >From: Micheal Mims > > >To: krnet-l@teleport.com > > >Subject: Re: KR: KR-3 (no archive) > > >Reply-To: krnet-l@teleport.com > > > > > >Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > >A parting shot for the weekend; although I haven't seen anything on > > >> the(failed) KR-3 amphibian, there is another abortive KR mutant > > lurking at http://a51.wetworks.org/zuniga/>>> > > > > > >Hey mister you be careful how you describe my KR2ST! Its still in > > >progress dude not aborted! :o) > > >-- > > >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > > >Micheal Mims > > >SP290,.. Putting the engine back together again! > > >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > > >Irvine Ca > > >Fax 949.856.9417 > > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 11:56:06 -0500 From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: KR: 1998 video? Maybe I've not paid close attention, but will there be a video of the 1998 Gathering for sale this year? Ed Janssen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:00:28 -0400 From: "WARRON GRAY" Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? Jeff ,when i first met l.p. he told me and bob that it was a doug johnson redriive plans unit. bob has a d.j. redrive on his soob and it truly is a thing of beauty. d.j. backs his stuff very well just as nsi backs my drive that i use. as far as design and engineering our stuff flys , very far as Steve Makish will attest to when our r&d is truly done we will offer the parts again for soobers Warron - -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey E Scott To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 1:04 AM Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? > >On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:42:06 EDT Horn2004@aol.com writes: >> >>In a message dated 10/23/98 11:47:58 AM, you wrote: >> >><>one of them was trailored in because he was concerned about the >>reliable on a >>long cross country....................but I wouldn't say that.>> >> >>Last year it only made it as far as Ardmore. Guess he figured it'd be >>better >>to only fly within gliding distance of the ramp. >> >>Steve Horn >>horn2004@aol.com >> >Me thinks the L.P. haul in static displays are giving the Soobs a bad >name. I had a friend that is a tool and die maker machinist closely >examine a redrive that L.P. had built and sold. His recommendation was >that it be placed in the nearest trash receptical before it gets someone >killed. Still wonder why he hauls the plane to fly-ins? I don't. > >Of course maybe my C-85 is giving Continentals a bad name too. :o) All >the parts are here and I'm hoping to get it put back together by Monday >afternoon. > >Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM >flameto:jscott.pilot@juno.com > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:09:24 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? At 07:00 PM 10/22/98 -0400, you wrote: >>, very far as >Steve Makish will attest to when our r&d is truly done "we" will offer the >parts again for soobers Warron>>> What is this "we" stuff? Are you planning to go into business in the homebuilt aviation arena? You might be better off getting a part time job at McDonalds, certainly the income would be consistent to a start business in aviation and the liability would be much less! :o) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Building ailerons and firewall now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 15:11:52 -0500 From: "Brian J. Bland" Subject: KR: Re: 1998 video? >Maybe I've not paid close attention, but will there be a video of the >1998 Gathering for sale this year? > >Ed Janssen There sure will be. Video Bob will let us know when he gets it done and when we can order it. Don't rush Video Bob. He doesn't make his living producing KR Gathering videos! Be patient and he will have it done before you know it. Brian J Bland Claremore, OK Mail to: bbland@gateway.net http://www.flight2000.com/hangar/KR-2S/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:37:23 +0100 From: Mark Langford Subject: KR: presently indisposed - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDFF97.7832ED70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable KRNetHeads, Somebody emailed me today wondering why I had disappeared from KRNet. = I'm here to tell you that I'm not dead yet, but if the weather in Wales = keeps it's present course, I may not survive the night. Very high = winds, lots of rain, and flooding prevail. Just a line to let you know = that I'm working in Wales again, this time for 6 weeks. As a result, = there's not much going on down in the basement right now. =20 I'm still checking email but due to the intensity of our work schedule, = by the time I get to read it, somebody else has answered it anyway. So = I'll be keeping a low profile for a while. If you email me personally, = flag it red or important, or something so I'll make sure to notice it. = When we're not slaving over a hot (400 MHz) CAD machine, we usually head = to the hotel bar for a lager. I'm outta here... Mark Langford, on assignment in Porthcawl, Wales mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDFF97.7832ED70 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhkUAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAqAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAARwAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAGtybmV0LWxAdGVsZXBv cnQuY29tAFNNVFAAa3JuZXQtbEB0ZWxlcG9ydC5jb20AAB4AAjABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAD MAEAAAAVAAAAa3JuZXQtbEB0ZWxlcG9ydC5jb20AAAAAAwAVDAEAAAADAP4PBgAAAB4AATABAAAA FwAAACdrcm5ldC1sQHRlbGVwb3J0LmNvbScAAAIBCzABAAAAGgAAAFNNVFA6S1JORVQtTEBURUxF UE9SVC5DT00AAAADAAA5AAAAAAsAQDoBAAAAHgD2XwEAAAAVAAAAa3JuZXQtbEB0ZWxlcG9ydC5j b20AAAAAAgH3XwEAAABHAAAAAAAAAIErH6S+oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIAAAAAa3JuZXQtbEB0ZWxlcG9y dC5jb20AU01UUABrcm5ldC1sQHRlbGVwb3J0LmNvbQAAAwD9XwEAAAADAP9fAAAAAAIB9g8BAAAA BAAAAAAAAAIJWQEEgAEAFQAAAHByZXNlbnRseSBpbmRpc3Bvc2VkADgIAQWAAwAOAAAAzgcKABgA EgAlABcABgBLAQEggAMADgAAAM4HCgAYABIAGgAkAAYATQEBCYABACEAAAA1RUEwMjQ0OTYyNkJE MjExOUVDQjAwQTAyNDU5QzU0OQADBwEDkAYAxAYAACEAAAALAAIAAQAAAAsAIwAAAAAAAwAmAAAA AAALACkAAAAAAAMALgAAAAAAAwA2AAAAAABAADkA8FCf9XT/vQEeAHAAAQAAABUAAABwcmVzZW50 bHkgaW5kaXNwb3NlZAAAAAACAXEAAQAAABYAAAABvf909Z1JJKBfa2IR0p7LAKAkWcVJAAAeAB4M AQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AHwwBAAAAFAAAAGxhbmdmb3JkQGhpd2FheS5uZXQAAwAGEN6ZfXkD AAcQ8wIAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAAAEtSTkVUSEVBRFMsU09NRUJPRFlFTUFJTEVETUVUT0RBWVdPTkRF UklOR1dIWUlIQURESVNBUFBFQVJFREZST01LUk5FVElNSEVSRVRPVEVMTFlPVVRIQVRJTU5PVERF QURZRVQAAAAAAgEJEAEAAACuAwAAqgMAAPAEAABMWkZ1tDvtvHcACgEDAfcgAqQD4wIAY4JoCsBz ZXQwIAcTjwKDAFAC8g9ZVGFoA3GFAoMyDudwcnEyD/YmfQqACMggOwlvMjVmNQKACoF1YwBQCwNj AwBBC2BuZzEwMzMRC6YgS1IHwHRIZXBhZHMsCqIKhAqAU4UDcGUG4GR5IGUAwEsDEAmAIAeAIHQE cGFdGgB3AiAEgQuAZxsgaFkaAEkgD4AagGQEAGFscHAYgAlxIANSGBQu6iAcACcdYGgEkBqyGsD0 ZWwDIHkIYBrAD4AFQLkeAm5vBUABABxBeQ/A8CwgYnUFQAaQH0EasJ53GIAhMQXAC4AgVwdAFQeR awngcAQgaXQn/wQgEwAHkAnwBUAFoAhwD7BfIKAcEADAGgAf4nMIcHacaXYasSFBAwBnaB3C9lYE kBoAaCWhGyALgBihqiAJAHQEIG8hEHILcX8goABwHREJAARwG5IjMXajGkEd0Up1cwVAYScQ3wuA HnMaYAVAHxJrH+AH4DMfVxswcmsbkiH3YWd/J7MfUAQAGsAHcR0gBbE20SFhZWtzHdFBLLEnkNkH kHVsIJEhomUjAR/i5m0WQCaQZ28bkgIgHGDPKwADoCHxITJiYQ+wB4DvI4EFECWxH9F3HdEY2h4C /ymQAxADIA9wBZAr8xojILN+ZApQHoMhQQuAHsAAgXT/GgAncQhhK7MkwDShNdAaYN8goRoAITIt kxwQZypxHpGvCXAcQSLgIKBzGadsD7B/HCEssQCAIXAc8iLgJ/F5vncbAB3RGZAd8R7hYhqw/yKC G5IpwSsBEwAncBpRLdP/KcAb0BpRHdIhEB8SNTQaoc8cwA+gAiAHQGx5IKAoQN8s0DwCHPIFsQdw cAkRAHD/IJEFsTpiLUEboTpgPPQAwM8igCTCHnMf4WljNmEdwu5XHkADoCFwJx5hJJMLYD8lADDS JSA/AhHQBUAoNAIwD+BNSHopIEN8QUQkQQ9wKfEgoCFwIP0pgHVBIh4xHEE2FUfhHtD/MeEFwD7k QZEEkB3VCGACQPtHwR5RLk1gGNgWsgLREKFoczE3GNRNCsA3wEx7FyEt4WQgoDDyMgAAkGcWbjIz IfFQCRFoY2H8d2wgoCIjGNUW0i9AJEHbAxAa0DoXEk/yQCZgPHD7PIEqAHROQy9AAUAY4w+w2xqw GCAyBfA+YWoFkCmhBwVBUuUlwHRwOi8v5xHRP4BUWC9+U8ZU/BjVWRJTMTYY1BPBAFvwAAADABAQ AAAAAAMAERAAAAAAAwCAEP////9AAAcw8KPoc3P/vQFAAAgw8KPoc3P/vQELAACACCAGAAAAAADA AAAAAAAARgAAAAADhQAAAAAAAAMAAoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABCFAAAAAAAAAwAFgAgg BgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAUoUAALcNAAAeACWACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABUhQAAAQAA AAQAAAA4LjAAAwAmgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAAYUAAAAAAAALAC+ACCAGAAAAAADAAAAA AAAARgAAAAAOhQAAAAAAAAMAMIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABGFAAAAAAAAAwAygAggBgAA AAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAGIUAAAAAAAAeAEGACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA2hQAAAQAAAAEA AAAAAAAAHgBCgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAN4UAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAB4AQ4AIIAYAAAAA AMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADiFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAD0AAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAwANNP03AABnpg== - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDFF97.7832ED70-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:17:21 PDT From: "Richard Parker" Subject: KR: Re: Parts For Trade I think examining the drawing technique would speak for itself. Going to spill the beans Mike? By the way I still have all those spare KR gear parts for you I've just been traveling alot and havent gotten my act together. hopefully your kid isnt flying yet Also I've got a set of 6 inch main wheels that I want to trade for 5 inch wheels. (came off a C-182) They arent Clevelands I think they are Goodyear. They have 4 bolt axles and brake disks, no calipers. Anybody out there got an extra old VW or Soob that I can play with? I'll find something intersting for trade. They might end up on my KR if I cant get anything smaller for short money. Rich Parker >How do you patent a wing, fuselage, tail, 2 engines. Out of 650 homebuilt >designs around, how many look almost the same? > > >Gordon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:41:06 -0700 From: David Moore Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? At 01:09 PM 10/24/98 -0700, you wrote: >At 07:00 PM 10/22/98 -0400, you wrote: >>>, very far as >>Steve Makish will attest to when our r&d is truly done "we" will offer the >>parts again for soobers Warron>>> > >What is this "we" stuff? Are you planning to go into business in the >homebuilt aviation arena? You might be better off getting a part time job >at McDonalds, certainly the income would be consistent to a start business >in aviation and the liability would be much less! :o) Yes, And the immortal words of Howard Hughes "To make a small fortune in aviation, you have to start with a large one". Dave Moore >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >Micheal Mims >SP290,..Building ailerons and firewall now >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >Irvine Ca >Fax 949.856.9417 >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > David Moore mailto:dgmoore1@gte.net Henderson, Nevada ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:28:16 -0400 From: Darren Brigman Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? Hey guys... I'm new here. I'm building a KR-1, and am looking for some advice on engines. I had thought of the old VW, but I like the Subaru also. I have found several engines, including one 2.2L OHC turbo. another thought is a mazda rotary 13-B. What is going to be the easiest installation, and what will be the most reliable? Thanks for the help! darren David Moore wrote: > At 01:09 PM 10/24/98 -0700, you wrote: > >At 07:00 PM 10/22/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>>, very far as > >>Steve Makish will attest to when our r&d is truly done "we" will offer the > >>parts again for soobers Warron>>> > > > >What is this "we" stuff? Are you planning to go into business in the > >homebuilt aviation arena? You might be better off getting a part time job > >at McDonalds, certainly the income would be consistent to a start business > >in aviation and the liability would be much less! :o) > > Yes, And the immortal words of Howard Hughes "To make a small fortune in > aviation, you have to start with a large one". > > Dave Moore > >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > >Micheal Mims > >SP290,..Building ailerons and firewall now > >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > >Irvine Ca > >Fax 949.856.9417 > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > David Moore > mailto:dgmoore1@gte.net > Henderson, Nevada > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:35:53 -0500 From: "Brian J. Bland" Subject: KR: Engine choices (was New airfoil?) - ----Original Message----- From: Darren Brigman To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 10:33 PM Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? >Hey guys... I'm new here. I'm building a KR-1, and am looking for some advice >on engines. I had thought of the old VW, but I like the Subaru also. I have >found several engines, including one 2.2L OHC turbo. another thought is a mazda >rotary 13-B. What is going to be the easiest installation, and what will be the >most reliable? >Thanks for the help! >darren In my opinion (some people around here will say that it isn't worth much) if you want an easy installation and a way to get your KR in the air the fastest then go with one of Steve Bennett's conversions. And if you are talking about an engine for your KR-1 then I think you need to forget the word Subaru!!! Get a VW conversion from Steve and then go fly!! Steve has already done all the work on converting the VW to use on an airplane, otherwise add at least a year on to the building time of your airplane. Brian J Bland Claremore, OK Mail to: bbland@gateway.net http://www.flight2000.com/hangar/KR-2S/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:40:36 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? At 11:28 PM 10/24/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hey guys... I'm new here. I'm building a KR-1, and am looking for some advice on engines. I had thought of the old VW. What is going to be the easiest installation, and what will be the most reliable?>>>> I think without a doubt the 1835 VW will be the easiest to install and the most reliable. I say this mostly because of its long history and readily available parts to help you with a conversion. The VW conversion will get you in the air with the least amount of tinkering, money, time, and sweat! But you must do it RIGHT the first time. Get with Steve of GPASC here on the net and he will hook you up. I think you will find that even in the direct drive mode the Subaru will weigh almost 50 pounds more than the 1835VW making the same HP, and if you thinking turbo and redrive be prepared for the engine to weigh as much as 250+ pounds. That may be just a little too much for a KR1. Keep in mind this is MY opinion and your gona find that every body on this list has at least one! :o) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290,..Building ailerons and firewall now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:19:54 -0700 From: "Joa" Subject: KR: Mark Stephens High Performance Have any of you, besides Mark Langford, used an engine built by Mark Stephens. I called them today and chatted with both Mark and a fellow named Norm Stephenson (who knew more about "prop" applications) and they all seemed real genuine and straightforward. Definitlely done their homework when it comes to getting power at low RPMs. The latest issue of Hot VWs backs this with its article on their 6 stud system for eliminating head leaks with the larger pistons. So what do you all think? Is 115 HP and 165 ft-lbs at 3800 RPM with a 30# increase in weight (over a Type 1) the way to go (plus the extra durability of the Type 4 case)? Thanks! Joa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:32:58 -0500 From: "Tom Andersen" Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? Darren, If I were building a KR-1 I would fit an 1835cc VW on it and go flying. In fact, I have a nice 1835cc VW for sale for a measly $2300, complete and ready to run. You can see some pics on my website. What a coincidence! - -Tom www.t-three.com/200MPH/1835vw.htm - -----Original Message----- From: Darren Brigman To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 9:29 PM Subject: Re: KR: New airfoil? >Hey guys... I'm new here. I'm building a KR-1, and am looking for some advice >on engines. I had thought of the old VW, but I like the Subaru also. I have >found several engines, including one 2.2L OHC turbo. another thought is a mazda >rotary 13-B. What is going to be the easiest installation, and what will be the >most reliable? >Thanks for the help! >darren > >David Moore wrote: > >> At 01:09 PM 10/24/98 -0700, you wrote: >> >At 07:00 PM 10/22/98 -0400, you wrote: >> >>>, very far as >> >>Steve Makish will attest to when our r&d is truly done "we" will offer the >> >>parts again for soobers Warron>>> >> > >> >What is this "we" stuff? Are you planning to go into business in the >> >homebuilt aviation arena? You might be better off getting a part time job >> >at McDonalds, certainly the income would be consistent to a start business >> >in aviation and the liability would be much less! :o) >> >> Yes, And the immortal words of Howard Hughes "To make a small fortune in >> aviation, you have to start with a large one". >> >> Dave Moore >> >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >> >Micheal Mims >> >SP290,..Building ailerons and firewall now >> >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >> >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >> >Irvine Ca >> >Fax 949.856.9417 >> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> > >> > >> >> David Moore >> mailto:dgmoore1@gte.net >> Henderson, Nevada >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:53:46 -0500 From: "Tom Andersen" Subject: KR: KR-2S parts for sale or trade Hello KR Netters, I have the following KR parts for sale or trade: KR-2S front deck $195 (Doesn't fit my widened fuse) KR-2S fuel tank $225 (Using stub wing tanks only) Foam kit for KR-2S $180 (Bought Diehle wing skins) 1835 VW $2300 See www.t-three.com/200MPH/1835vw.htm for pic. KR parts wanted: Dual control stick Sling seats Aileron pushrods and rod ends Premolded stub wing skins - -Tom Orlando, FL ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V2 #166 *****************************