From: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 8:21 PM To: krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #179 krnet-l-digest Tuesday, November 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 179 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:05:27 -0500 From: "Wayne DeLisle Sr." Subject: Re: KR: Sides Very interesting Alessando. Please keep us posted on your progress. And, your english is much better then my Italian!! (-; WD At 11:16 AM 11/10/98 -0800, you wrote: > > >Robert Covington wrote: > >> Someone approached me at the gathering, and mentioned that they had >> pre-curved their sides before gluing the plywood on, and before boating. >> >> Seems to me that would a decent way to go perhaps. How much more distance >> does a flat glued piece of plywood/side have to cover via "stretch" or >> tension when it it curved into the boat shape afterwards than it would if >> it was just laid on a pre-bent or pre-boated side? >> >> Robert Covington > > I'm a first (and maybe last)-time builder in Italy. assembled my boat long >before meeting the "net", i used good old Aerolite glue, so needed more >pressure than epoxy and, following the manual, glued plywood to flat fuselage >sides, using clamps, staples and heavy metal rods to keep everyithing in >contact. FWIW: I don't know if glueing the complete frame, and then the ply >is a better metod than the one described in the manual. BTW it says (as an >help to sides assembly) "Improvise restraint as required" :o( This took >a month of tests and frustration. Then I cut three formers from particle >wood (one corresponding to the front bulkhead, another where the fuse is >widest and the third where the straight sides begin. installed the formers >to the working table, with some more guide bloks along the the topside >contour lines. >I clamped (lightly) both sides to the first former, then with a lot of care >(and strong heartbeat) I started bending the sides, clamping them to the >middle and aft formers (yes, the sides got that banana shape) and then >clamped the rearmost to a piece of wood shaped as the aft fin spar. No >cracks,no pieces going away: just an afternoon work, and the thing was >ready for bottor cross members fitting; this was much more difficult. I >believe this small story has very little interest: this morning i just >whished to refresh my English ;-) but fear that I didn't succeed in writing a >readable piece. >Regards, > alessandro (building an absolutely unmodified KR-2S) > Wayne DeLisle Sr. Email:support@sestar.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:13:12 -0500 From: "Wayne DeLisle Sr." Subject: Re: KR: Canopy for 42" wide fus. Price Sounds reasonable, considering what you get. I have no interest in going into the canopy business. As long as I can afford it, I will buy as many parts as I can. WD At 08:52 AM 11/10/98 -0500, you wrote: >> I really like the looks of the D-fly canopy, How much do they cost?? >> > >They are in the $400+ ballpark. Don't forget truck freight shipping. I >tried to make my own D'fly style canopy with a mold, large oven, etc. >and it was a disaster. The best thing that I can say is that I didn't >burn down the shop. It is cheaper to buy your canopy, whatever the >style. > >-- >Don Reid >Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com > KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm > Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html > Wayne DeLisle Sr. Email:support@sestar.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:13:07 PST From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR: Re: Sides >That is what I am going to do. Frame it and skin it. I think, my >opinion, it would be less stress by doing it this way > > >John F Esch >Salem, OR The stress level is inversly proportional to the amount of clamps you can find once you have mixed your glue. Rich Parker "Sometimes you're the dog, sometimes you're the fire hydrant" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:38:55 EST From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Re: News Letters In a message dated 11/10/98 7:50:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, support@sestar.net writes: << I have all of the old news letters from issue # 1 through DEC. 1984, I think. >> For you new to the KRnet, I sent the newsletters that we had permission to reproduce to Oscar this past winter. He has scanned them and is making a searchable CDROM. Any news Oscar? Dana Overall Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:55:59 +0200 From: 5253 Subject: Re: KR: KR2S controls My address: Johan Pender Vana Viru 9 Tallinn 10111 Estonia At 21:58 09.11.98 -0600, you wrote: >Juss: > >Sure, just send me your address. They are hard copy and I don't have the >capability to scan them in. > >Richard McCall >1518 Holly Lane >Junction City, KS 66441 > >5253 wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Could I get a set of the drawings too? >> >> Juss >> from Estonia. >> juss@teleport.ee >> >> At 13:17 08.11.98 -0600, you wrote: >> >Allan, >> > >> >Give your address and I'll send you a drawing and a picutre of my dual >> >control. >> > >> >Rich >> > >> >Allan Horne wrote: >> > >> >> Has anybody have a drawing and parts list for the dual control. >> >> >> >> Allan Horne >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Johan Pender - ------------------ GSM 372 5 048 958 GSM post 372 5 3048 958 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:07:57 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Re: Sides Robert Covington wrote: > Sounds cool,one thing I worry about is that the stapling pressure will > distort the boat out of square somehow or break something. > > That a problem for anyone who used this method? > Dude quit trying to talk yourself out of building that airplane and just glue it! - -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building ailerons and firewall now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:10:07 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Re: News Letters "Wayne DeLisle Sr." wrote: > I am going to try to get permission to scan them in and post them on my > website. It will give me something to do while recovering from my upcoming neck surgery. > > WD I got permission from E Koppe last year to post anything from the Newsletters he printed to the web. - -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building ailerons and firewall now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:19:05 -0500 From: smithr Subject: Re: KR: gluing foam for layup The only urethane glue I've found was too thick to spread on foam. It might have been a bad batch, maybe I'll look for some thinner stuff. Thanks Ronald R. Eason Sr. wrote: > Yes, the very best way to glue urethane foam is to use urethane glue. It > can be found at your local lumber supply outlet. The glue is used to glue > wood to laminates in cabinet shops. The glue expands as it cures filling > mismatched surfaces. It sands just like the foam. It is stronger than the > foam. > > Ron Eason > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Mims > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 2:46 PM > Subject: Re: KR: gluing foam for layup > > >smithr wrote: > > > >> Does anyone have a great solution to this problem?? Whats the best glue > here? > >> > >> Bob Smith > > > >A hot glue gun works pretty good. > > > > > >-- > >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > >Micheal Mims > >SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now > >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > >Irvine Ca > >Fax 949.856.9417 > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Ronald R. Eason Sr. > C.E.O., President > J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd. > Engineering > > Ronald R. Eason Sr. > C.E.O., President > J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd. > Engineering > jrlkc@mindspring.com Work Voice: 816-468-4091 > 7333 North Brooklyn Home Voice: 816-468-4425 > Gladstone, Voice Pager: 816-989-9692 > MO. Work Fax: 816-468-5465 > 64118-2329 Home Fax: 816-468-5465 > U.S.A. > Appartment Veranda House, 100 W. Lincoln ST., Tullahoma. TN. 37388, House phone 931-455-7033, Fax 931-455-9335, Aptmt.#308, phone 931-393-3165. > Additional Information: > Version 2.1 > Last Name Eason Sr. > First Name Ronald > Additional NameR. > Label Work jrlkc@mindspring.com 7333 North Brooklyn Gladstone,, MO. 64118-232 U.S.A. > Label Home 7333 N. Brooklyn Gladstone,, MO. 64118-2329 U.S.A. > Revision 19981110T024420Z ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:26:18 EST From: BSHADR@aol.com Subject: KR: Re: Newsletters In a message dated 98-11-10 07:50:19 EST, Wayne wrote: << I have all of the old news letters from issue # 1 through DEC. 1984, I think. If anyone is looking for a particular article, I will be happy to look it up. I am going to try to get permission to scan them in and post them on my website. >> Wayne: Ernie Koppe gave us permission to copy, post, etc., any KR Newsletter he published. He felt the information was too important to not have in public domain. The current newsletter publisher does not, as far as I know, share this position. It seems he prefers the "dollar domain" over the public domain I was one of the primary whiners that induced Ernie to come to KRKosh '97 and speak one evening. In my opinion, it was a magic moment. Dan, Steve and Jeanette also spoke on the history of the KR. Geeze, that BBQ after dinner talk was an incredible sunset presentation, one I suspect that will not be repeated. Randy Stein Soviet Monica, CA BSHADR@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:22:09 -0500 From: smithr Subject: Re: KR: Re: gluing foam for layup You call it a " foam material". The only urethane glue I've seen I wouldn't call "foam", it was kind of like a hard rubber after it set. Is that what you're talking about? Ronald R. Eason Sr. wrote: > Use urethane wood glue. Its a 1-part not a 2-part foam material. It can be > found at the lumber supply or cabinet materials supply outlet. > > Ron Eason > > -----Original Message----- > From: smithr > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 12:21 PM > Subject: KR: gluing foam for layup > > >Hi KR gang! I'm still here, just haven't had much to say lately! > > > >I know this has been discussed, but I don't recall what the best > >solution was. > > > >I am ready to glue (urethane) foam blocks to my hstab/elevator spars. I > >am reluctant to use epoxy/microballoons because the epoxy will ooze out > >over the spars and harden and this will make sanding to contour > >difficult. The glue area here is kind of small (2" or less spars) so I > >can't just put a bead of glue down the center. > > > >(I have liquid 2-part urethane that I bought to use as glue but It > >doesn't seem like a good idea to use it here) > > > >Does anyone have a great solution to this problem?? Whats the best glue > >here? > > > >Bob Smith > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Ronald R. Eason Sr. > C.E.O., President > J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd. > Engineering > > Ronald R. Eason Sr. > C.E.O., President > J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd. > Engineering > jrlkc@mindspring.com Work Voice: 816-468-4091 > 7333 North Brooklyn Home Voice: 816-468-4425 > Gladstone, Voice Pager: 816-989-9692 > MO. Work Fax: 816-468-5465 > 64118-2329 Home Fax: 816-468-5465 > U.S.A. > Appartment Veranda House, 100 W. Lincoln ST., Tullahoma. TN. 37388, House phone 931-455-7033, Fax 931-455-9335, Aptmt.#308, phone 931-393-3165. > Additional Information: > Version 2.1 > Last Name Eason Sr. > First Name Ronald > Additional NameR. > Label Work jrlkc@mindspring.com 7333 North Brooklyn Gladstone,, MO. 64118-232 U.S.A. > Label Home 7333 N. Brooklyn Gladstone,, MO. 64118-2329 U.S.A. > Revision 19981110T024941Z ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:43:57 PST From: "Richard Parker" Subject: KR: re Wankel Did someone recently post a link to a web page for converting rotary engines for aircraft use? if so could you repost it please. I have the opportunity to buy an RX-7 with a good motor but rotten body for $200 bucks. Might be something to mess around. Rich Parker Jaffrey, NH richontheroad@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:06:55 -0500 From: "Wayne DeLisle Sr." Subject: Re: KR: Re: Newsletters Earnie was a true believer. He really worked hard to help everyone in any way possable. Does he still fly a KR? WD At 11:26 AM 11/10/98 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-11-10 07:50:19 EST, Wayne wrote: > ><< I have all of the old news letters from issue # 1 through DEC. 1984, I >think. > > If anyone is looking for a particular article, I will be happy to look it up. > > I am going to try to get permission to scan them in and post them on my > website. >> > >Wayne: > >Ernie Koppe gave us permission to copy, post, etc., any KR Newsletter he >published. He felt the information was too important to not have in public >domain. The current newsletter publisher does not, as far as I know, share >this position. It seems he prefers the "dollar domain" over the public domain > >I was one of the primary whiners that induced Ernie to come to KRKosh '97 and >speak one evening. In my opinion, it was a magic moment. Dan, Steve and >Jeanette also spoke on the history of the KR. Geeze, that BBQ after dinner >talk was an incredible sunset presentation, one I suspect that will not be >repeated. > >Randy Stein >Soviet Monica, CA >BSHADR@aol.com > Wayne DeLisle Sr. Email:support@sestar.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:55:07 +0000 From: David Moore Subject: Re: KR: Bending the Sides There is a really fine article on forming the sides on the Celerity web page, along with working with foam. And since the Celerity is just a large KR you may find it useful. http://www.primenet.net/~celerity Dave Moore At 06:56 PM 11/9/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Someone approached me at the gathering, and mentioned that they had >pre-curved their sides before gluing the plywood on, and before boating. > >Seems to me that would a decent way to go perhaps. How much more distance >does a flat glued piece of plywood/side have to cover via "stretch" or >tension when it it curved into the boat shape afterwards than it would if >it was just laid on a pre-bent or pre-boated side? > >Robert Covington > > > > > David G. Moore dgmoore1@gte.net Henderson, Nevada ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:59:37 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Re: Kitplanes Lionheart article (off subject) Dean, Thanks for the plug. I just knew those three years of working on Lionheart every night (rather than my KR2S) was going to pay off someday. Can't wait to see that Kitplanes cover when I get back. Jeanie emailed today saying that Larry called, and was quite disappointed that I wouldn't be back for two more weeks. Looks like I'll have some more volunteer work waiting for me when I get back........................................ Mark Langford langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford - -----Original Message----- From: Dean Collette To: KRNET (E-mail) Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 6:25 PM Subject: KR: Kitplanes Lionheart article (off subject) >Netters, > >Just a quick congratulations to our own Mark Langford. It seems he received >an "honorable mention" in the latest Kitplanes cover story. >Clip "the more interesting story is in it's development. Lionheart was >developed using a 3-D CAD package. French generated a 2-D side view and a >plan view, then worked with Mark Langford to get the design into the >computer . . . " > >Dean > >Mailto:drdean@execpc.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:10:42 -0700 From: Adrian Carter Subject: Re: KR: Re: Sides Micheal Mims wrote: > > Robert Covington wrote: > > > Sounds cool,one thing I worry about is that the stapling pressure will > > distort the boat out of square somehow or break something. > > > > That a problem for anyone who used this method? > > > > Dude quit trying to talk yourself out of building that airplane and just > glue it! > > -- > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > Micheal Mims > SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building ailerons and firewall now > mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > Irvine Ca > Fax 949.856.9417 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I second that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - -- Adrian VE6AFY Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:14:03 -0800 From: "Ronald R. Eason Sr." Subject: Re: KR: Re: gluing foam for layup This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0112_01BE0CD5.E5CC6E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No it's urethane resin that is activated by moisture in the air. The only negative is it is not instant it take time to cure. It's used typically to glue veneer to wood substrate. Ron - -----Original Message----- From: smithr To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 8:31 AM Subject: Re: KR: Re: gluing foam for layup >You call it a " foam material". The only urethane glue I've seen I wouldn't call "foam", it was kind of like a hard rubber after it set. Is that >what you're talking about? > > >Ronald R. Eason Sr. wrote: > >> Use urethane wood glue. Its a 1-part not a 2-part foam material. It can be >> found at the lumber supply or cabinet materials supply outlet. >> >> Ron Eason >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: smithr >> To: krnet-l@teleport.com >> Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 12:21 PM >> Subject: KR: gluing foam for layup >> >> >Hi KR gang! I'm still here, just haven't had much to say lately! >> > >> >I know this has been discussed, but I don't recall what the best >> >solution was. >> > >> >I am ready to glue (urethane) foam blocks to my hstab/elevator spars. I >> >am reluctant to use epoxy/microballoons because the epoxy will ooze out >> >over the spars and harden and this will make sanding to contour >> >difficult. The glue area here is kind of small (2" or less spars) so I >> >can't just put a bead of glue down the center. >> > >> >(I have liquid 2-part urethane that I bought to use as glue but It >> >doesn't seem like a good idea to use it here) >> > >> >Does anyone have a great solution to this problem?? Whats the best glue >> >here? >> > >> >Bob Smith >> > >> > >> > >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - - >> >> Ronald R. Eason Sr. >> C.E.O., President >> J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd. >> Engineering >> >> Ronald R. Eason Sr. >> C.E.O., President >> J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd. >> Engineering >> jrlkc@mindspring.com Work Voice: 816-468-4091 >> 7333 North Brooklyn Home Voice: 816-468-4425 >> Gladstone, Voice Pager: 816-989-9692 >> MO. Work Fax: 816-468-5465 >> 64118-2329 Home Fax: 816-468-5465 >> U.S.A. >> Appartment Veranda House, 100 W. Lincoln ST., Tullahoma. TN. 37388, House phone 931-455-7033, Fax 931-455-9335, Aptmt.#308, phone 931-393-3165. >> Additional Information: >> Version 2.1 >> Last Name Eason Sr. >> First Name Ronald >> Additional NameR. >> Label Work jrlkc@mindspring.com 7333 North Brooklyn Gladstone,, MO. 64118-232 U.S.A. >> Label Home 7333 N. Brooklyn Gladstone,, MO. 64118-2329 U.S.A. >> Revision 19981110T024941Z > > > > - ------=_NextPart_000_0112_01BE0CD5.E5CC6E60 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Ronald R. Eason Sr..vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Ronald R. Eason Sr..vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Eason Sr.;Ronald;R. FN:Ronald R. Eason Sr. ORG:J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd.;Engineering TITLE:C.E.O., President NOTE:Appartment Veranda House, 100 W. Lincoln ST., Tullahoma. TN. = 37388, House phone 931-455-7033, Fax 931-455-9335, Aptmt.#308, phone = 931-393-3165. TEL;WORK;VOICE:816-468-4091 TEL;HOME;VOICE:816-468-4425 TEL;PAGER;VOICE:816-989-9692 TEL;WORK;FAX:816-468-5465 TEL;HOME;FAX:816-468-5465 ADR;WORK:;jrlkc@mindspring.com;7333 North = Brooklyn;Gladstone,;MO.;64118-2329;U.S.A. LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:jrlkc@mindspring.com=3D0D=3D0A7333= North Brooklyn=3D0D=3D0AGladstone,, MO. 64118-232=3D 9=3D0D=3D0AU.S.A. ADR;HOME:;;7333 N. Brooklyn;Gladstone,;MO.;64118-2329;U.S.A. LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:7333 N. = Brooklyn=3D0D=3D0AGladstone,, MO. 64118-2329=3D0D=3D0AU.S.A. URL: URL:http://jrl-engineering.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:ron@jrl-engineering.com EMAIL;INTERNET:jrlkc@mindspring.com EMAIL;INTERNET:reason1@ficom.net REV:19981111T021403Z END:VCARD - ------=_NextPart_000_0112_01BE0CD5.E5CC6E60-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:18:29 -0800 From: "Ronald R. Eason Sr." Subject: Re: KR: gluing foam for layup This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_012B_01BE0CD6.84406560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is clear and is like surup in viscosity. Ron - -----Original Message----- From: smithr To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 8:27 AM Subject: Re: KR: gluing foam for layup >The only urethane glue I've found was too thick to spread on foam. It might have been a bad batch, maybe I'll look for some thinner stuff. Thanks > >Ronald R. Eason Sr. wrote: > >> Yes, the very best way to glue urethane foam is to use urethane glue. It >> can be found at your local lumber supply outlet. The glue is used to glue >> wood to laminates in cabinet shops. The glue expands as it cures filling >> mismatched surfaces. It sands just like the foam. It is stronger than the >> foam. >> >> Ron Eason >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mike Mims >> To: krnet-l@teleport.com >> Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 2:46 PM >> Subject: Re: KR: gluing foam for layup >> >> >smithr wrote: >> > >> >> Does anyone have a great solution to this problem?? Whats the best glue >> here? >> >> >> >> Bob Smith >> > >> >A hot glue gun works pretty good. >> > >> > >> >-- >> >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >> >Micheal Mims >> >SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now >> >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >> >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >> >Irvine Ca >> >Fax 949.856.9417 >> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> > >> > >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - - >> >> Ronald R. Eason Sr. >> C.E.O., President >> J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd. >> Engineering >> >> Ronald R. Eason Sr. >> C.E.O., President >> J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd. >> Engineering >> jrlkc@mindspring.com Work Voice: 816-468-4091 >> 7333 North Brooklyn Home Voice: 816-468-4425 >> Gladstone, Voice Pager: 816-989-9692 >> MO. Work Fax: 816-468-5465 >> 64118-2329 Home Fax: 816-468-5465 >> U.S.A. >> Appartment Veranda House, 100 W. Lincoln ST., Tullahoma. TN. 37388, House phone 931-455-7033, Fax 931-455-9335, Aptmt.#308, phone 931-393-3165. >> Additional Information: >> Version 2.1 >> Last Name Eason Sr. >> First Name Ronald >> Additional NameR. >> Label Work jrlkc@mindspring.com 7333 North Brooklyn Gladstone,, MO. 64118-232 U.S.A. >> Label Home 7333 N. Brooklyn Gladstone,, MO. 64118-2329 U.S.A. >> Revision 19981110T024420Z > > > > - ------=_NextPart_000_012B_01BE0CD6.84406560 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Ronald R. Eason Sr..vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Ronald R. Eason Sr..vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Eason Sr.;Ronald;R. FN:Ronald R. Eason Sr. ORG:J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd.;Engineering TITLE:C.E.O., President NOTE:Appartment Veranda House, 100 W. Lincoln ST., Tullahoma. TN. = 37388, House phone 931-455-7033, Fax 931-455-9335, Aptmt.#308, phone = 931-393-3165. TEL;WORK;VOICE:816-468-4091 TEL;HOME;VOICE:816-468-4425 TEL;PAGER;VOICE:816-989-9692 TEL;WORK;FAX:816-468-5465 TEL;HOME;FAX:816-468-5465 ADR;WORK:;jrlkc@mindspring.com;7333 North = Brooklyn;Gladstone,;MO.;64118-2329;U.S.A. LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:jrlkc@mindspring.com=3D0D=3D0A7333= North Brooklyn=3D0D=3D0AGladstone,, MO. 64118-232=3D 9=3D0D=3D0AU.S.A. ADR;HOME:;;7333 N. Brooklyn;Gladstone,;MO.;64118-2329;U.S.A. LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:7333 N. = Brooklyn=3D0D=3D0AGladstone,, MO. 64118-2329=3D0D=3D0AU.S.A. URL: URL:http://jrl-engineering.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:ron@jrl-engineering.com EMAIL;INTERNET:jrlkc@mindspring.com EMAIL;INTERNET:reason1@ficom.net REV:19981111T021829Z END:VCARD - ------=_NextPart_000_012B_01BE0CD6.84406560-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:51:23 EST From: BSHADR@aol.com Subject: KR: Ernie Koppe In a message dated 98-11-10 12:14:19 EST, Wayne wrote: << Earnie was a true believer. He really worked hard to help everyone in any way possable. Does he still fly a KR? >> Nope...He is into other interests and travels much of the time. He works for FEMA now. So if Ernie knocks where your door use to be, you got big problems. :-0 Randy Stein ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:19:02 PST From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR: Re: Kitplanes Lionheart article (off subject) I just read it and it really sounded like "Mark Langford" is a name known in all aviation households same as Bob Hoover, Barry Schiff or Chuck Yeager. I didnt know you were so popular Mark. I'm guess I'm privaledged. You really should capitalize on it. ;-) Rich Parker >From: "Mark Langford" >To: >Subject: KR: Re: Kitplanes Lionheart article (off subject) >Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:59:37 -0600 >Reply-To: krnet-l@teleport.com > >Dean, > >Thanks for the plug. I just knew those three years of working on Lionheart >every night (rather than my KR2S) was going to pay off someday. > >Can't wait to see that Kitplanes cover when I get back. Jeanie emailed >today saying that Larry called, and was quite disappointed that I wouldn't >be back for two more weeks. Looks like I'll have some more volunteer work >waiting for me when I get back........................................ > >Mark Langford >langford@hiwaay.net >see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dean Collette >To: KRNET (E-mail) >Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 6:25 PM >Subject: KR: Kitplanes Lionheart article (off subject) > > >>Netters, >> >>Just a quick congratulations to our own Mark Langford. It seems he received >>an "honorable mention" in the latest Kitplanes cover story. >>Clip "the more interesting story is in it's development. Lionheart was >>developed using a 3-D CAD package. French generated a 2-D side view and a >>plan view, then worked with Mark Langford to get the design into the >>computer . . . " >> >>Dean >> >>Mailto:drdean@execpc.com >> >> >> > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:12:36 EST From: CHolder280@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: they are here!! CONGRADULATIONS. X 2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:32:42 -0800 From: Robert Covington Subject: Re: KR: Re: Sides >Robert Covington wrote: > >> Sounds cool,one thing I worry about is that the stapling pressure will >> distort the boat out of square somehow or break something. >> >> That a problem for anyone who used this method? >> > >Dude quit trying to talk yourself out of building that airplane and just >glue it! >Micheal Mims >and Adrian> Ok, I will just staple the things on and bend it all up after a good 48 hours wet soaking in hot Mazola Corn Oil. Ok, I can leave out the soaking part. I will install fiberoptic micro stress detectors to detect the slightest stretch and stress in any wood fiber around. Wish it wasn't so cool in the hangar right now, the glue doesn't want to soak in much, but it stays workable longer. :) I think I will just glue ahead of time, then bend around particle board templates, I like that method. Bending over a couple or more days time. I can cut vertical lines into the plywood every 6 inches or so and relieve the stress that way. (really kidding there) Robert Sidereal Covington "Hey No Stinking Side's Makin' Me Nervous" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:44:12 -0800 From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR: Re: Sides Robert Covington wrote: > I think I will just glue ahead of time, then bend around particle board > templates, I like that method. > Robert Sidereal Covington > "Hey No Stinking Side's Makin' Me Nervous" Hey you should come out to the hanger and look at Haris boat, he is in the process of bending his sides as we speak! - -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:05:26 -0800 From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR: Old Newsletters "Wayne DeLisle Sr." wrote: > How far do your news letters go? > > WD > Wayne DeLisle Sr. > Email:support@sestar.net I think I have 1 through 70 or something like that. There was a complete "like new" set being passed around a few months ago. I will be glad when Oscar gets them on the CD rom. - -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:02:00 EST From: Horn2004@aol.com Subject: KR: Re: cool shop/thick epoxy In a message dated 11/10/98 7:30:53 PM, you wrote: <> You might consider building (out of some scrap 1/2" foil backed foam and duct tape) a small "cabinet" to house your epoxy. In the cabinet place a very low wattage bulb (40 watts is a good start) and a thermometer. I try to keep my epoxy around 90 degrees during the winter. This helps keep it nice and fluid and easier to work with. It also helps prevent the cross-linking problem which occurs when the juice is allowed to stay cool for too long. Steve Horn Dallas, TX horn2004@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:02:42 -0800 From: Mike Mims Subject: KR: Cowling pictures Cowling heads, I uploaded more photos of the cowling. Go see them on the Engine II page at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/engine2.html - -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:10:20 -0800 From: "John F. Esch" Subject: Re: KR: they are here!! Thanks X 2 John CHolder280@aol.com wrote: > CONGRADULATIONS. X 2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:11:44 -0800 From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR: Old Newsletters Mike Mims wrote: <<<>>> That was supposed to be followed by a "Hint Hint", guess my spell check didn't like the double word! :o) - -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 949.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:58:08 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Re: PIOs, a very old horse! (was Cowlings) At 08:23 PM 11/5/98 -0800, you wrote: > >>Tom, I agree with you. I had 68 hours total PIC spead over 22 years. >>After proper taxi tests, flying the KR was 'a piece of cake' and one of the >>greatest trills that I have ever had. >> >> Bobby Muse > >Yeah, but that was a year of taxi tests, wasn't it, Bobby ? :) >Your story is legend! > > > >Robert Covington > >PS, Speaking of trills, you a Deep Space Nine fan? :) (gotcha again) > > > Well, It really two months(weekends only) of taxi tests. P.S... It's not the story that's the legend.... I'm the legend! :) Bobby Muse mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:02:17 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Re:first flights At 08:05 AM 11/6/98 -0500, you wrote: >All this talk of good/bad flying qualities of the KR AC has sparked a thought. > >How many of you folks did your own first flight?? I did. >How many hours flying time did you have at that time? 68 >About how many hours do you have on your KR at this time? 275 >If you didn't do your first flight, why not?? > >Not really important, but I thought it might be interesting to >hear everyones experiances. > >WD >Wayne DeLisle Sr. > Bobby Muse mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:43:35 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Re:first flights At 04:31 PM 11/6/98 EST, you wrote: >Yes I flew my own first flight. Just before touch down I closed my eyes. I >have had 900 hrs flying different small planes. I have about 4 hrs on the KR. >I am still teacing myself how to land the thing. I allready went through one >nose gear and prop. But it is still a fun plane to fly. I have no problems >with the takeoff and flying just getting it to slow down enough to land >decently. Don Clarke > Don, Slow it down on the downwind. I know it is hard to go that slow but just - Do It. Your Friend, Bobby Muse mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:43:37 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: PIOs At 11:34 PM 11/6/98 -0500, you wrote: >The ratio of >completed airplanes to plans sold is probably the lowest in the industry and >I think there are some very well founded reasons for this. > As for myself, I spent a lot of time speculating on what to build. I had >criteria I had to address in the selection that included cost of >constuction, ease of building, initial outlay to get started and speed bang >for the buck as well as builder support and number of completed airplanes >flying. > I really wanted a Lancair but the initial outlay would force me to borrow >money for the kit and borrow money to build. I would need a lot of help >building it. The financial picture was what took it out of consideration. > After looking at a lot different possibilies, the KR2S came into the >picture. > The key here and probably the underlying reason for the low completion rate >is the reputation of the KR as a "twitchy" aircraft that the plans buyer has >not been exposed to until he gets into the KR "loop" as we are here on the >mail. I know that it wasn't until after I made the decision to build the >thing, and bought plans, that I was exposed to the reputation. > >jeroffey@tir.com > > You are paying too much attention to KR builders and not enought attention to KR pilots! The real reason(in my opinion) that there is a low completion rate is because of the same reason you decided to build a KR, the initial outlay to get started, then followed by the lack of ability to complete their dream. It is hard to finish a project that takes years to compete. The KR is 1/2 plans built and 1/2 dreams built. You have to be very creative and focused to complete a project such as the KR. I have a lot of respect for anyone who has a goal and is working hard to obtain that goal. It is easy to give up when you get confused or feel alone. This KRNet is the best thing going for those reaching out for help to obtain their goal - Building a Airplane - Building a KR. Bobby Muse mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V2 #179 *****************************