From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Friday, December 25, 1998 12:04 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: December 24, 1998 KR-net users group Digest for Thursday, December 24, 1998. 1. Re: Weight & Balance KR2 2. Re: Silly Questions (or a deceased equines) 3. trim controls 4. RE: Tandems, questions and dead horses 5. Re: trim controls 6. Christmas whishes 7. Re: Diehl skins 8. Re: VW's on Volksplanes (formerly "VP-2") 9. Re: Christmas whishes 10. Re: VW's on Volksplanes (formerly "VP-2") 11. FW: greetings 12. Re: Merry Christmas & Happy New Year 13. Rev-Flow Caruretor Alert 14. Merry Christmas 15. Merry Christmas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Weight & Balance KR2 From: "bennett family" Date: Tue, 22 Dec 98 20:13:25 PST X-Message-Number: 1 G'day Skip Just to confuse you even more by throwing my hat in, my plans state 8"-16= " aft of the inboard leading edge; however here in Australia It is a legal requirement= to operate the KR-2 within 203mm-302mm aft of the inboard leading edge, This was due = to Govt test pilots back in the 70's claiming the aircraft was unsafe beyond those lim= uts. As you can imagine it has made it difficult for builders over here ever since. Of course that won= t affect you at all, anyway hope that I have'nt confused the issue. Regards Malcolm Bennett ---------- > > I purchased Don Betchan's KR2 and seem to have an aft CG. I have called= RR > to get the CG range but no luck so far! I just weighed it and found a = 30llb > weight gain over the years and a CG that just dosen't work. What is the= CG > range?? and or % of chord so that I can see what I need to do. > > Has anyone else had this problem? RR led me to believe that this is not > uncommon. This is my first homebuilt so I need all the help I can get. > > Need HELP > Skip > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: benfam@picknowl.com.au > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Silly Questions (or a deceased equines) From: "Richard Parker" Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 03:51:38 PST X-Message-Number: 2 who did your cam? do you have any specs on it? Rich Parker Jaffrey, NH >From: "WARRON GRAY" >To: "KR-net users group" >Subject: [kr-net] Re: Silly Questions (or a deceased equines) >Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 23:17:45 -0500 >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" > >Gordon , i am using the u.s. ea-81 for power punched out 20 ths new cam >grind etc. ground tests runs like a bear Warron >-----Original Message----- >From: Gordon Brimhall >To: KR-net users group >Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 10:34 AM >Subject: [kr-net] Re: Silly Questions (or a deceased equines) > > >>Warron >>Which one are they using? EA-81 or the 22 >> >>Gordon >>RW1 >> >> > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: richontheroad@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: trim controls From: "Oscar Zuniga" Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 05:53:00 PST X-Message-Number: 3 Jon Dawson wrote: >hi netters >Does anyone have a diagram of their trim tab cable >installation and the fabrication of a control handle? Well, there are many out there, but go to Mike Mims' site and click on his 'controls' page. Go to the bottom of the first page and click on next page. On his Controls Page II you can see a setup using a simple lever with biasing springs. This setup doesn't use a trim tab on the flying surfaces, but rather uses springs to add a biasing force up or down to the aileron controls. I don't know if Mike has actually built this, but at least the drawings are there. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon (aviation website at http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Dropzone/5610/) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Tandems, questions and dead horses From: "Richard Parker" Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 06:53:55 PST X-Message-Number: 4 >Thanks, folks, > >You seem to be a friendly bunch. I'd be careful of that statement. This list can get pretty hot at times. ;-) We have some good flame throwing sessions. Just ask Taglieri. Rich Parker richontheroad@hotmail.com http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: trim controls From: DClarke351@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 10:25:04 EST X-Message-Number: 5 Have you thought of using an electric trim tab. It is so much easier to install and operate. Mine works fine. Don Clarke ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Christmas whishes From: "J.F. de Wet" Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 18:41:52 +0200 X-Message-Number: 6 To all on the net. May you have a very happy and blessed Christmas. Kobus De Wet Cape Town South Africa GMT+2:00 http://home.intekom.com/kobusdw ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Diehl skins From: Kr2dream@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 12:53:45 EST X-Message-Number: 7 I have still not installed the top skins. I weighed one and found it to be 10-1/2 pounds. The weight of the top and bottom skins are fairly close with the bottom skins weighing 1/2 to one pound less than the tops. Hope this helps. I think they are great! The quality supplied is super! A very merry and blessed Christmas and a prosperous New Year to all! Bob Lasecki Chicago ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: VW's on Volksplanes (formerly "VP-2") From: MARVIN MCCOY Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 10:38:50 -0800 X-Message-Number: 8 Michael C. Taglieri wrote: > > > I did notice one thing that startled me: the Volksplane Webpage says that > some people are getting 3000 hours out of the VW engine on these planes! That means one of three > possibilities: > > 1. The Volksplane puts these engines under much less stress than the KR > does. > > 2. Sticking the cylinders out in the breeze does a much better job of > cooling the heads than a pressure-cowling, and they need to be a hell of > a lot cooler than the KR pressure-cowling is getting them. > > 3. Some Volksplane owners are lying through their teeth. > > Anybody have ideas on which of these possibilities it is, > Mike Taglieri > > --------------------------------- Mike: For what it is worth, remember I am still building and have no actual experience. I think it is a combination of all three. I also think you can't make a generalized statement about all VW engines. They are all very different from each other. Even the ones that are built from the same exact kit. Some will be put together properly and others will not be, with many variations in between. Some will have more exact monitoring of temperature and over heating problems. (from my experience with VW autos it is my opinion that temperature and cooling is the biggest killer of VW engines) Some one on the net just the other day spoke of their engine going for many years until they put a turbo on it and increased the power then the crank broke. Again, my opinion, but when you increase the power output on the VW the ramifications of over-heating are increased many times over. If your engine was marginally staying within acceptable cooling temperatures before it was built up, it will not last long if it is overheating. Having just one cylinder head temperature monitor is not enough. Temperatures on each head will run significantly different. Just my opinion but there are many reasons that can cause VW engines to break. And every engine that breaks appears to be caused from a different problem. All of which seems can be avoided. I do not know his name but the man who had the KR1 with the Type IV engine at the 97 gathering had his first crank break. He found out later it was because he did not drill out the hole for the pin, or drilled it improperly, in the case for the force one bearing. That is why they call it experimental. And I still plan on using a VW in my KR. Marvin McCoy Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing field. -------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Christmas whishes From: Alastair Hawkins Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 11:06:03 -0800 X-Message-Number: 9 To all have a merry Christmas and a happy new year. From the land of the North Pole. Alastair Hawkins Port Coquitlam, B.C. Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: VW's on Volksplanes (formerly "VP-2") From: Mdoby34371@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:15:00 EST X-Message-Number: 10 In a message dated 12/23/98 9:14:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, miketnyc@juno.com writes: << I did notice one thing that startled me: the Volksplane Webpage says that some people are getting 3000 hours out of the VW engine on these planes! And they're talking about the standard engine, not one with beefed-up components like the Great Plains engines. That means one of three possibilities: 1. The Volksplane puts these engines under much less stress than the KR does. 2. Sticking the cylinders out in the breeze does a much better job of cooling the heads than a pressure-cowling, and they need to be a hell of a lot cooler than the KR pressure-cowling is getting them. 3. Some Volksplane owners are lying through their teeth. Anybody have ideas on which of these possibilities it is, or are there more? What TBO's are people getting on the other cylinder-in-the-breeze VW designs like the Cub copies? Mike Taglieri >> High performance engines have a lot more stress put on them and therefore are not going to live as long. Given the same maintenance a stock low performance engine will last longer than a high performance engine of the same type. We should all think about the kinds of stress we subject these powerplants to. A given engine type/size may be rated at a certain power level at a given rpm but that doesn't mean it is intended to run long term at that rating. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: FW: greetings From: "J.F. de Wet" Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 00:06:20 +0200 X-Message-Number: 11 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE2F9A.731249C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: Dene Collett [SMTP:denec@netactive.co.za] Sent: 24 December 1998 21:53 To: Kobus de Wet Subject: greetings Hi Kobus Just a short message to wish you and your family a merry christmas and = an airborne new year. Please convey the same to the guys on krnet for me = seeing that I havn`t got my wings yet to fly the net. Till next year Dene collett =20 Kobus De Wet Cape Town South Africa GMT+2:00 http://home.intekom.com/kobusdw ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE2F9A.731249C0 Content-Type: text/html; name="ATT00000.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Kobus
Just a short message to wish you and your family a merry christmas and an airborne new year. Please convey the same to the guys on krnet for me seeing that I havn`t got my wings yet to fly the net.
Till next year
Dene collett
------ =_NextPart_000_01BE2F9A.731249C0-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Merry Christmas & Happy New Year From: "L.Palaniappan" Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 06:29:41 +0800 X-Message-Number: 12 Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone here who taught me many basic things about Homebuilt planes and building techniques and ideas. May the Lord grant you some of your wishes in the coming year. L.palani Malaysia. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Rev-Flow Caruretor Alert From: DClarke351@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 18:30:41 EST X-Message-Number: 13 While I was doing some taxi tests my Rv-Flow carb started sticking at about the 2000 RPM position. After a couple of yanks I was able to break it loose but when on final that would present a bit of a problem. I took it apart and checked everything that seemed obvious. Finally I was moving the slide actuator and holding the drum. The actuator moved and the drum slipped a little. The drum has a small screw holding it to the actuator shaft so I tightened it and walla! it works again. Don Clarke ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Merry Christmas From: Bob and Grace Welfel Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 15:45:14 -0500 X-Message-Number: 14 Hi To all. Grace and I would like to wish the best of seasons greetings to every body. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year We hope you have a good one. Bob and Grace ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Merry Christmas From: jeroffey@tir.com (jeroffey) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 23:36:40 -0500 (EST) X-Message-Number: 15 Merry Christmas to all. May Santa be good to you and your KR. John Roffey and Family jeroffey@tir.com --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com