From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 12:18 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: February 18, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Thursday, February 18, 1999. 1. Re: Sport aviation 2. Re: KR2S width 3. RE: Verticals on rear outer wing spar. 4. GPAC Strobes 5. Wooden Props 6. RE: KRnet; your airplane 7. Re: GPAC Strobes 8. KR1? 9. Re: Sport aviation Ace Aircraft, Inc. 10. Class "B" Airspace 11. Re: Class "B" Airspace 12. Re: Class "B" Airspace 13. RE: Class "B" Airspace 14. Re: GPAC Strobes 15. Re: Progress update HUD 16. Re: Class "B" Airspace 17. Re: GPAC Strobes 18. Re: Class "B" Airspace 19. Re: Class "B" Airspace 20. Class B airspace and other FAA issues 21. RE: Verticals on rear outer wing spar. 22. Joint Bond Failure ... 23. Re: GPAC Strobes 24. Re: GPAC Strobes 25. Re: Measuring Wing Incidence 26. Re: How not to 27. Re: Class B airspace and other FAA issues 28. Re: GPAC Strobes 29. Class B airspace ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Sport aviation From: "Wayne DeLisle Sr." Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:45:17 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1 Hi Steffan, The Sport Aviation publication is for EAA members only. When you join the EAA, (Experimental Aviation Association), you will receive the magazine, as well as may other items of interest. You can join on-line at: www.eaa.org Membership costs $40 for USA, $56 outside the USA. Good Luck, Wayne At 08:29 AM 2/18/99 +0100, you wrote: >Hai netters. >Over here in the Netherland I tried to get a edition of the lot spoken >edition of sport aviation. Every shop I asked was the answer negatif. Is >there somebody in europe who is having an edition for me . Or is it >possible that somebody it will send to me from the U.S.A. Please contact >me. >Dutch guy Stef Wayne DeLisle Sr. mailto:dodger@coincidental.net http://angst.webserve.net/~dodger ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KR2S width From: Donald Reid Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:40:03 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2 Michael H. Clark wrote: > > Hello group. > I just joined - been interested in KR2 since I saw David Carroll's (sp?) > "Dumbo" in Sport Aviation. I'm 6'1" so I'm wondering if KR2S is big enough for > wife and I; > 1. what is cabin width at hip and shoulder level on KR2S? > 2. could the entire plane be built 10% bigger? The width is easy to increase, if you are willing to use a different canopy, like a Dragonfly, and build your own turtleback. I am making mine significantly larger than the standard -2S and it can be done. The re-design will add to the bulding time. An easy way to get started is to get the plans and buld a cockpit mockup from plywood and scrap lumber. -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Verticals on rear outer wing spar. From: "Robert Sauer" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:07:22 -0600 X-Message-Number: 3 On the newer plans the spar cap is tapered on both the fore and aft spar, allowing all the verticals on both be consistent in height. > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-kr-net-49736@telelists.com > [mailto:bounce-kr-net-49736@telelists.com]On Behalf Of > Robert7721@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 9:25 PM > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Verticals on rear outer wing spar. > > > Subject: SOOB ENGINE > From: Randy > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:41:47 -0500 > X-Message-Number: 3 > > "another question- on the rear outer spars- what is the best way > to cut the > verticals which are of diminishing heights? do you lay out the caps and > insert the verts or what?" > > randy smyre > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Randy, reference your question on the rear outer spars, I just completed > this last weekend and did pretty much as you describe. > > I layed out the spars at the dimensions required and cut each verticle > separately as I worked from the outside to inside. I set the inside and > outside verticles first, the inside total spar depth at 3 15/16" > then set the > outside spar depth at 3". I cut each verticle piece custom to > fit as I worked > inside checking to make sure as I added each new verticle piece I > still had > good contact and no gaps. > > Rob Schmitt > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: resauer@totalaccess.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: GPAC Strobes From: Ron Freiberger Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:51:53 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4 I bought two of Steve's Strobe Kits at Oshkosh. Later, On the Net, I found a good buy in a Whelen three light stobe set. I will sell these two lights for price of one, based on GPAC catalog, which I cannot find. Shipping will be about $4. Ron Freiberger ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Wooden Props From: Ron Freiberger Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:51:45 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5 Giuseppe Bellanca is reported to have said," If GOD meant for there to be aluminum airplanes, there would be Aluminum Trees. In untested engine/prop/mount conditions, wood is always safer Ron Freiberger Ft Myers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: KRnet; your airplane From: Ron Freiberger Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:52:00 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6 This message has no information for me... Maybe it should have been sent to the intended recipient, not the KRNET? -----Original Message----- From: bounce-kr-net-19348@telelists.com [mailto:bounce-kr-net-19348@telelists.com] On Behalf Of JKM001@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 9:57 PM To: KR-net users group Subject: [kr-net] RE: KRnet; your airplane How about using you initials? D_ 2. Sounds good to me. Keith --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: ronald.freiberger@cwix.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: GPAC Strobes From: donald.norris@natinst.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:02:13 -0600 X-Message-Number: 7 Ron where did you find the three light set??? Ron Freiberger on 02/18/99 09:51:53 AM Please respond to "KR-net users group" To: "KR-net users group" cc: (bcc: Donald Norris/AUS/NIC) Subject: [kr-net] GPAC Strobes I bought two of Steve's Strobe Kits at Oshkosh. Later, On the Net, I found a good buy in a Whelen three light stobe set. I will sell these two lights for price of one, based on GPAC catalog, which I cannot find. Shipping will be about $4. Ron Freiberger --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: donald.norris@natinst.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KR1? From: "Lenard Spencer" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 8:41:31 X-Message-Number: 8 I'm looking at building a KR1. Does this plane have any quirks that I should know about? How would it compare to a 2 or 2S in handling qualities? Thanks in advance. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Sport aviation Ace Aircraft, Inc. From: "R.W. Moore" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:45:05 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9 Sport Aviation address is: Post Office Box 3086 Oshkosh Wise. 54903-3086 email address editorial@eaa.org web page http://www.eaa.org I hope this helps! R. W. Moore, Marketing Director Ace Aircraft, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Stefan den Boer To: KR-net users group Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 2:26 AM Subject: [kr-net] Sport aviation >Hai netters. >Over here in the Netherland I tried to get a edition of the lot spoken >edition of sport aviation. Every shop I asked was the answer negatif. Is >there somebody in europe who is having an edition for me . Or is it >possible that somebody it will send to me from the U.S.A. Please contact >me. >Dutch guy Stef > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rwmoore@alltel.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Class "B" Airspace From: "Jody Wallace" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:01:37 PST X-Message-Number: 10 Netters: A buisness aquaintance was trying to sell me a share in a BeechCraft. I thought the price he was asking was a little steep. While discussing the merits of experimental aircraft he stated that he heard that homebuilts were not allowed to enter class B airspace. Not that I cherish the thought of landing at O'hare in a KR...is this true? JW ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Class "B" Airspace From: Ross Youngblood Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:16:29 -0800 X-Message-Number: 11 The regulations do NOT state: Experimentals are not allowed in Class B airspace. They do state: Experminatals may not fly over congested areas. However, congested area's are subject to interpertation. In the San-Francisco bay area there has been some recent discussions of restrictions on Experimental aircraft. The last I heard was that the EAA and other groups have represented us well, and it is still possible to fly your experimental aircraft in the Bay area. I don't think I would want to fly my KR to SFO however. -- Regards Ross Jody Wallace wrote: > > Netters: > > A buisness aquaintance was trying to sell me a share in a BeechCraft. > I thought the price he was asking was a little steep. While discussing > the merits of experimental aircraft he stated that he heard that > homebuilts were not allowed to enter class B airspace. Not that I > cherish the thought of landing at O'hare in a KR...is this true? > > JW > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@saber.slb.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 Corvallis,Oregon mailto:rossy@saber.slb.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Class "B" Airspace From: "Stiteler, Michael" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:34:56 -0500 X-Message-Number: 12 In addition, you MAY operate over congested areas (this has been ruled on in court, and won for experimentals) as in... FAR 91.319 (c) Unless otherwise authorized by the Administrator in special operating limitations, no person may operate an aircraft that has an experimental certificate over a densely populated area or in a congested airway. HERE IS THE GERMAIN PART: The Administrator may issue special operating limitations for particular aircraft to permit takeoffs and landings to be conducted over a densely populated area or in a congested airway, in accordance with terms and conditions specified in the authorization in the interest of safety in air commerce. Mike Michael R. Stiteler mailto:stiteler@scra.org Advanced Technology Institute Voice : (843) 760-3285 5300 International Blvd. Fax : (843) 760-3349 N. Charleston, SC 29418 http://www.aticorp.org -----Original Message----- From: Ross Youngblood [mailto:rossy@san-jose.tt.slb.com] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 2:16 PM To: KR-net users group Subject: [kr-net] Re: Class "B" Airspace The regulations do NOT state: Experimentals are not allowed in Class B airspace. They do state: Experminatals may not fly over congested areas. However, congested area's are subject to interpertation. In the San-Francisco bay area there has been some recent discussions of restrictions on Experimental aircraft. The last I heard was that the EAA and other groups have represented us well, and it is still possible to fly your experimental aircraft in the Bay area. I don't think I would want to fly my KR to SFO however. -- Regards Ross Jody Wallace wrote: > > Netters: > > A buisness aquaintance was trying to sell me a share in a BeechCraft. > I thought the price he was asking was a little steep. While discussing > the merits of experimental aircraft he stated that he heard that > homebuilts were not allowed to enter class B airspace. Not that I > cherish the thought of landing at O'hare in a KR...is this true? > > JW > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@saber.slb.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 Corvallis,Oregon mailto:rossy@saber.slb.com --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: stiteler@aticorp.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Class "B" Airspace From: "Stiteler, Michael" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:38:23 -0500 X-Message-Number: 13 How much was he asking? And for how much of a share? Mike Michael R. Stiteler mailto:stiteler@scra.org Advanced Technology Institute Voice : (843) 760-3285 5300 International Blvd. Fax : (843) 760-3349 N. Charleston, SC 29418 http://www.aticorp.org -----Original Message----- From: Jody Wallace [mailto:jodywallace@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 2:02 PM To: KR-net users group Subject: [kr-net] Class "B" Airspace Netters: A buisness aquaintance was trying to sell me a share in a BeechCraft. I thought the price he was asking was a little steep. While discussing the merits of experimental aircraft he stated that he heard that homebuilts were not allowed to enter class B airspace. Not that I cherish the thought of landing at O'hare in a KR...is this true? JW ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: stiteler@aticorp.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: GPAC Strobes From: CruzJ12@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:55:40 EST X-Message-Number: 14 If anyone is interested in building strobe lights, i have schematics from Visual Flight Safety. I bought the plans back in early 80's . Built 2 sets and they work just fine. I tried to upload these to the krnet but was unable ,for the bmp 's are too big ........... seven pages . email me with an address and i will upload them . Joe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Progress update HUD From: CruzJ12@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:03:41 EST X-Message-Number: 15 im interested.email me with details....thank Joe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Class "B" Airspace From: "Tom Andersen" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:14:14 -0500 X-Message-Number: 16 I always thought that during your first 25 or 40 hours of flight in an experimental, flight over congested areas was prohibited, similar to how ultralights are prohibited from flight over congested areas all the time. And congested areas are shown on the sectionals in yellow, right? -Tom -----Original Message----- From: Stiteler, Michael To: KR-net users group Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 2:37 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Class "B" Airspace >In addition, you MAY operate over congested areas (this has been ruled on in >court, and won for experimentals) as in... > >FAR 91.319 >(c) Unless otherwise authorized by the Administrator in special operating >limitations, no person may operate an aircraft that has an experimental >certificate over a densely populated area or in a congested airway. >HERE IS THE GERMAIN PART: >The Administrator may issue special operating limitations for particular >aircraft >to permit takeoffs and landings to be conducted over a densely populated >area >or in a congested airway, in accordance with terms and conditions specified >in the authorization in the interest of safety in air commerce. > >Mike > >Michael R. Stiteler mailto:stiteler@scra.org > >Advanced Technology Institute Voice : (843) 760-3285 >5300 International Blvd. Fax : (843) 760-3349 >N. Charleston, SC 29418 http://www.aticorp.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ross Youngblood [mailto:rossy@san-jose.tt.slb.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 2:16 PM > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Re: Class "B" Airspace > > The regulations do NOT state: > Experimentals are not allowed in Class B airspace. > > They do state: > Experminatals may not fly over congested areas. > > However, congested area's are subject to interpertation. > > In the San-Francisco bay area there has been some recent > discussions of restrictions on Experimental aircraft. The > last I heard was that the EAA and other groups have >represented > us well, and it is still possible to fly your experimental > aircraft in the Bay area. I don't think I would want to fly > my KR to SFO however. > > -- Regards > Ross > > Jody Wallace wrote: > > > > Netters: > > > > A buisness aquaintance was trying to sell me a share in a >BeechCraft. > > I thought the price he was asking was a little steep. >While discussing > > the merits of experimental aircraft he stated that he >heard that > > homebuilts were not allowed to enter class B airspace. Not >that I > > cherish the thought of landing at O'hare in a KR...is this >true? > > > > JW > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: >rossy@saber.slb.com > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to >leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > -- > Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE >PIN#895-9073 > Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x >1632 > Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 > Corvallis,Oregon mailto:rossy@saber.slb.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: >stiteler@aticorp.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to >leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: tomkr2s@t-three.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: GPAC Strobes From: "Gerald & Sharon" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:26:14 -0500 X-Message-Number: 17 hey Joe, I'd love to have plans for the strobe lights. thanks, Gerald -----Original Message----- From: CruzJ12@aol.com To: KR-net users group Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 5:06 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: GPAC Strobes >If anyone is interested in building strobe lights, i have schematics from >Visual Flight Safety. I bought the plans back in early 80's . Built 2 sets >and they work just fine. > I tried to upload these to the krnet but was unable ,for the bmp 's are >too big ........... seven pages . email me with an address and i will >upload them . > >Joe > > > > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: tierra@ozline.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Class "B" Airspace From: Lenspencer@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:38:13 EST X-Message-Number: 18 In a message dated 2/18/99 7:18:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, tomkr2s@t- three.com writes: > I always thought that during your first 25 or 40 hours of flight in an > experimental, flight over congested areas was prohibited, similar to how > ultralights are prohibited from flight over congested areas all the time. > And congested areas are shown on the sectionals in yellow, right? I don't know, I was watching an amphib last week at Orlando Executive Airport, in the Class C just north of the Class B, and the area around Executive is VERY congested except for the lakes. For those of you unfamiliar with the Orlando area, Executive is 6.9 DME (the ORL VOR is in the middle of the airport) north of Orlando International, directly under the final approach path for runways 18L and 18R. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Class "B" Airspace From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:07:49 -0800 X-Message-Number: 19 On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:38:13 EST Lenspencer@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 2/18/99 7:18:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, >tomkr2s@t- >three.com writes: > >> I always thought that during your first 25 or 40 hours of flight in an >> experimental, flight over congested areas was prohibited, similar to how >> ultralights are prohibited from flight over congested areas all the time. >> And congested areas are shown on the sectionals in yellow, right? > >I don't know, I was watching an amphib last week at Orlando Executive Airport, >in the Class C just north of the Class B, and the area around Executive is >VERY congested except for the lakes. > >For those of you unfamiliar with the Orlando area, Executive is 6.9 DME (the >ORL VOR is in the middle of the airport) north of Orlando International, >directly under the final approach path for runways 18L and 18R. > Your flight test area is subject to negotiation between the FAA inspector and you. In my case the inspector had me draw out the area I wanted with the assurance that if I wanted too much, he would trim it down for me. He didn't like the fact that I would be doing the bulk of my test flying based out of a one way in one way out runway at 7200' ASL witha congested area off one end of the runway. Once I assured him that I would not be taking the plane in there until it met my performance and handling specs, he allowed it. A friend with a Glassair got a test area over 100 miles long. The faster the plane, the more area you will probably be granted IF you ask. Flight over a congested area during your test hours may be granted by the inspector if you can convince him that there is a compelling reason to do so. Again, it is purely subjective and can be negotiated with the inspector. Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213w construction and first flight at http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Class B airspace and other FAA issues From: Ron Freiberger Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:19:12 -0500 X-Message-Number: 20 I queried my Inspector about the point that your airworthiness is void if you make any changes to the aircraft (homebuilt). After some hemming and hawing, I asked if it meant that if you made a change and got in trouble with it, it wouldn't be the FAA's fault. He concurred, but remains nameless. Airspace is about the same way. I did land at O'Hare on a very nice Sunday afternoon, and got first class treatment. On a weekdaty with poor Mets, you'd never get close. I've never been aware of any issues landing at airports, but I wouldn't go Buzzing the Sears building. You can get away with a lot if you're circmspect and don't repeat annoying behavior. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Verticals on rear outer wing spar. From: Mike Mims Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:37:47 -0800 X-Message-Number: 21 Robert Sauer wrote: > > On the newer plans the spar cap is tapered on both the fore and aft spar, > allowing all the verticals on both be consistent in height. > How new are your plans? I bought mine (KR2S plans) about 3 years ago and the aft spars are NOT tapered. The vertical members are all different lengths from stub wing to wing tip. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now mailto:mikemims@home.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Joint Bond Failure ... From: "Albert Pecoraro" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:18:11 EST X-Message-Number: 22 Netters, I have experienced bond failure at the bottom-left side of Nodes G & H while bending the fuselage into shape. Approximately 1/2" of the vertical members came loose. I applied a hot wet towel to the area for 1 hour prior to bending, but I believe I may have applied too much pressure in too short a time span. Question: Do I have to remove the affected vertical members completely and re-epoxy them, or can I do a simple repair by cleaning out behind the loose area and applying epoxy with a syringe? Is there any regulation that states how these types of repairs are to be performed? It seems like a simple enough repair ... I just want to do it correctly and legally. I thank you in advance for your help. Albert Pecoraro Kentwood, MI 49508 616-281-3828 (H) 616-247-2803 (W) apec97@hotmail.com http://fly.to/hangar-AP <--- Click on the Eagle! KR-2S - Building the spars ... Feb.6/99 to date : 29.0 hours ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: GPAC Strobes From: "w.g. kirkland" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:13:55 -0500 X-Message-Number: 23 Joe; W.G. Kirkland, R.R. 2, Parry Sound, ON, Can. P2A 2W8 Sure would appreciate set of the schematics. Thanks Bill W.G. KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: CruzJ12@aol.com > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Re: GPAC Strobes > Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 4:55 PM > > If anyone is interested in building strobe lights, i have schematics from > Visual Flight Safety. I bought the plans back in early 80's . Built 2 sets > and they work just fine. > I tried to upload these to the krnet but was unable ,for the bmp 's are > too big ........... seven pages . email me with an address and i will > upload them . > > Joe > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kirkland@vianet.on.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: GPAC Strobes From: "w.g. kirkland" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:57:04 -0500 X-Message-Number: 24 Ron: I'm interested. What price? Also wud like an address to meet with you when I come to Fort Myers next month. W.G. KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: Ron Freiberger > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] GPAC Strobes > Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 10:51 AM > > I bought two of Steve's Strobe Kits at Oshkosh. Later, On the Net, I found > a good buy in a Whelen three light stobe set. > I will sell these two lights for price of one, based on GPAC catalog, which > I cannot find. Shipping will be about $4. > > Ron Freiberger > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kirkland@vianet.on.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Measuring Wing Incidence From: "w.g. kirkland" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:52:37 -0500 X-Message-Number: 25 Rich: most of the literature says to assume the firewall is vertical. W.G. KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: Richard Parker > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Re: Measuring Wing Incidence > Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 5:53 AM > > In this method are you assuming that your firewall is perpendicular to > the level line? I cant remember if mine is or not but I doubt it is > after forming the banana boat. I hope it is. That would make leveling a > little easier. > > Rich Parker > > >From: "w.g. kirkland" > > >Doug: level the fuselage using the firewall as vertical. Locate and > >mark the spot on the upper longeron that now gives a level > indication.... > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kirkland@vianet.on.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: How not to From: "w.g. kirkland" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:01:27 -0500 X-Message-Number: 26 Thanks Ron good idea. Put it in my Sauna W.G. KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: RONALD R.EASON > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Re: How not to > Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 3:14 PM > > Always post cure new foam before finishing. This means applying a low grade > heat around 120 - 140 deg. F for 6 or more hopurs. Light bulbs do well a > heaters. > > Otherwise the bulge will occure after the glass is applied. > > > At 11:47 AM 2/17/99 -0600, you wrote: > >Another thing about the 2 part foam is that it will continue to grow for > >some time after you think it is done. I.E. a hot summer day you may notice > >areas that have the 2 part foam bulge!! > >Jean > >Broken Arrow,OK > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: w.g. kirkland > >To: KR-net users group > >Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 4:30 PM > >Subject: [kr-net] How not to > > > > > >>I never make the same mistake twice but it seems I've made them all once. > >>I was making up the turtle deck and was experimenting with the 2 part > >>urethane foam as a glue. It seems to work ok but when it comes to sanding > >>the joints the 2 part is harder than the urethane boards. To correct that > >>I experimented a bit and found that 1/3 part A and 2/3 part B make a more > >>easily sanded foam. Ok so the hard parts I excavated with my Dremel tool > >>then just before I glassed it I filled the depressions with epoxy (West > >>system) and sylica. DO'NT DO THIS!!!! It looks good at the time but when > >>the Glass dries you have a wholelot of lumps from the filler. Now I have a > >>fine Dog house with a front and back door for my poodle but I will have to > >>start over on the turtle deck. Read and Heed. > >>W.G. KIRKLAND > >>kirkland@vianet.on.ca > >> > >>--- > >>You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: N4DD@prodigy.net > >>To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > >> > > > > > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: jrlkc@mindspring.com > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kirkland@vianet.on.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Class B airspace and other FAA issues From: Michael Taglieri Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:13:08 EST X-Message-Number: 27 >Airspace is about the same way. I did land at O'Hare on a very nice Sunday >afternoon, and got first class treatment. On a weekdaty with poor Mets, >you'd never get close. I was under the impression that the Class B's charge such high landing fees that no GA pilot would want to go there (and that was the intention), Is O'Hare different? Mike Taglieri ------------------------------------------------------- "May your life be full of lawyers" -- Mexican curse ------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: GPAC Strobes From: John Esch Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:36:58 -0800 X-Message-Number: 28 Joe I would be interested in seeing the schematics for the strobes. John F. Esch jesch@cyberis.net CruzJ12@aol.com wrote: > If anyone is interested in building strobe lights, i have schematics from > Visual Flight Safety. I bought the plans back in early 80's . Built 2 sets > and they work just fine. > I tried to upload these to the krnet but was unable ,for the bmp 's are > too big ........... seven pages . email me with an address and i will > upload them . > > Joe > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: jesch@cyberis.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Class B airspace From: "Martin Mulvey" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:21:06 -0800 X-Message-Number: 29 Hi all It has been my experience that as long as you have the required nav equipment, you can go into or traverse the Class B airspace. I recently went into SEA (landed) in a Glasair with no problem. Did have to pay a landing fee but no big deal. I also traverse their Class B area regularly with no problem. Required equipment is listed in the FAR'S but basically means radio and VOR capability. BRGDS, Marty --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com