From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 12:13 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: February 22, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Monday, February 22, 1999. 1. Wing attach 2. Sun N fun Schedule 3. Diehl gear 4. Re: Diehl gear 5. Re: Diehl gear 6. Advertisements 7. brake line 'straw' 8. Re: Comments on 80HP Verner, 60HP HKS & other engines 9. Re: Comments on 80HP Verner, 60HP HKS & other engines 10. KR-1 folding wing pictures 11. Re: Diehl gear 12. Engine not ready :( 13. Re: Diehl gear 14. straw & Diehl gear 15. KR engines 16. Re: KR-1 folding wing pictures 17. Folding wing pics ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Wing attach From: "Oscar Zuniga" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 05:48:27 PST X-Message-Number: 1 Hello, netters Just a reminder to all who have commented on the wing attach arrangement on the KR: the intent of the design was apparently not to have the wings removable for convenience or storage. The WAFs and dihedral break location were done so that the KR could be constructed in a smaller space in a simple way, without a one-piece spar. If you want a folding-wing setup or something that will make your airplane easier to trailer or store regularly, don't plan on using the stock WAF setup. Some builders are considering alternatives to the stock wing attach and spar setup for the purpose of having their wings more easily removable, but stockers should plan on having their wings semi-permanently attached and only to remove them for taking back into the shop for repair. Oscar Zuniga website at http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Dropzone/5610/ Medford, Oregon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Sun N fun Schedule From: "Richard Parker" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 05:55:42 PST X-Message-Number: 2 Has anyone kept a schedule for KR releated activities at Sun and Fun that they could post. I just got a pass from my wife to attend. Yippee!! Rich Parker richontheroad@hotmail.com http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm Jaffrey, NH ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Diehl gear From: "John M. Wadleigh" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 07:19:43 -0700 X-Message-Number: 3 Please help. I have purchased the Diehl trigear for my KR2S project. The instructions talk about gluing a "straw" on the gear prior to applying the scotchgard glass. This "straw" will carry the brake line. What kind of straw is used? Should this straw be plastic or waxed paper? What thickness (diameter) should this straw be? I am assuming that Diehl is talking about a drinking straw - or is there a composite tubing that is called a "straw"? Any help is appreciated. Thanks. John Wadleigh jwnw1@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Diehl gear From: donald.norris@natinst.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:37:45 -0600 X-Message-Number: 4 This should be a drinking straw with an ID that will carry your brake line. Plastic is what I used and it works great, no chance for later problems. I recently retrofitted my KR2 with this main gear. Good Luck -Donald 38TF "John M. Wadleigh" on 02/22/99 08:19:43 AM Please respond to "KR-net users group" To: "KR-net users group" cc: (bcc: Donald Norris/AUS/NIC) Subject: [kr-net] Diehl gear Please help. I have purchased the Diehl trigear for my KR2S project. The instructions talk about gluing a "straw" on the gear prior to applying the scotchgard glass. This "straw" will carry the brake line. What kind of straw is used? Should this straw be plastic or waxed paper? What thickness (diameter) should this straw be? I am assuming that Diehl is talking about a drinking straw - or is there a composite tubing that is called a "straw"? Any help is appreciated. Thanks. John Wadleigh jwnw1@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: donald.norris@natinst.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Diehl gear From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:58:46 EST X-Message-Number: 5 In a message dated 2/22/99 9:21:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, jwnw1@juno.com writes: << Please help. I have purchased the Diehl trigear for my KR2S project. The instructions talk about gluing a "straw" on the gear prior to applying the scotchgard glass. This "straw" will carry the brake line. What kind of straw is used? Should this straw be plastic or waxed paper? >> Don't use wax, your resin won't stick to it. All you are doing is allowing the brake line room to flex in this tube to help absorb the movement of the gear legs and to allow for easy removable, ie. replacement. Just a regular ol' plastic drinking straw will do the trick. Dana Overall Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Advertisements From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:00:29 EST X-Message-Number: 6 In a message dated 2/21/99 9:24:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, jim7@hotbot.com writes: << the last thing we need on >this list is someone posting an email everyday trying to sell >something. >> Sorry for the repeat..........................but AMEN. Dana ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: brake line 'straw' From: jeb@thuntek.net Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 8:2:2 X-Message-Number: 7 I think I found the large size at McDonalds. everyone elses straws were too small for the brake line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Comments on 80HP Verner, 60HP HKS & other engines From: Doug Fortune Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:15:58 -0700 X-Message-Number: 8 Hi guys: Last January 6, 1999 I posted the following note on the 80HP Verners SVS-1400, and wanted to know of its applicability. The US$7500 engine is also covered in this months Kitplanes (Mar 99), powering the Cora Legato & Cora Allegro http://www.sport-flight.com They were dyno-ing it at 2 gph/95 lb-ft/3500 rpm Can anyone tell me if the weight of it is is the correct ballpark for a KR2/KR2S ? ie 160 lbs. If not, then the 60HP HKS at 116 lb? Also, I noted a small ad in the back for a 40 HP 57 lb fourstroke, and a 60 HP 68 lb fourstroke. 800-991-9777 but those might be too small. While I'm on a roll, the Franklin ad mentions a Franklin 2 cylinder (no specs), but their number was 812-752-6919 Anyone know about that one? Doug Fortune wrote January 6, 1999: > I'm joining your email list, but for now I'm interested > in the following KR2 info (sorry if it covers old ground!): > > - two new engines look like a good combination > - 80 HP Verner SVS-1400 > 2 gph @ 3500rpm (75% == 60 HP) > 4stroke/2cyl/95ftlb/8valve OHC /belt reduction > http://www.teleport.com/~zlinak > 503-233-6848 > looks almost too good to be true! > > - 60 HP HKS-700E > 60 HORSEPOWER @ 6200 RPM (3 MINS) > 3.4 GALLONS-HOUR @ 4200 RPM (75%) > 52 FT. LBS. TORQUE @ 4200 RPM (75%) > 116 lbs/2 cyl/ gear reduction/elec start/ > dual electric ignition/ 4 valves per cyl > http://www.hpower-ltd.com > 860-875-8185 > > Comments? > Doug Fortune, > Calgary ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Comments on 80HP Verner, 60HP HKS & other engines From: Andreas Meyer Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:20:31 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9 Doug Fortune wrote: > > While I'm on a roll, the Franklin ad mentions a Franklin > 2 cylinder (no specs), but their number was 812-752-6919 > Anyone know about that one? > The 2 cylinder Franklin engine is a VERY rough running engine. None of the articles I've ever read spoke highly of this engine. I've never flown behind one, this info is just from what I've read. Andreas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KR-1 folding wing pictures From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:03:33 -0600 X-Message-Number: 10 Netters, RW Moore sent me some picts of his KR-1, some of which show his folding wing mechanism on his KR-1. To me, it looks like his airplane is ready for a test flight. If someone, like Mike or Mark, would be interested in volunteering to post them on their website for everyone to see, I could scan them and send them. I don't have a website and probably wouldn't have the time to set one up if I knew how anyway. E-mail me privately and we can arrange for the transfer. Ed Janssen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Diehl gear From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:29:57 -0800 X-Message-Number: 11 My gear legs have a line of straws glassed into the leading and training edges of the gear. My brake lines come down the gear legs throught he straws. All you need is a large enough straw to feed the brake lines through. Mine came from the straw dispenser at McDonalds. Jeff On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 07:19:43 -0700 "John M. Wadleigh" writes: >Please help. I have purchased the Diehl trigear for my KR2S project. >The instructions talk about gluing a "straw" on the gear prior to >applying the scotchgard glass. This "straw" will carry the brake >line. What kind of straw is used? Should this straw be plastic or >waxed paper? What thickness (diameter) should this straw be? I am >assuming that Diehl is talking about a drinking straw - or is there a >composite tubing that is called a "straw"? > >Any help is appreciated. Thanks. > > >John Wadleigh >jwnw1@juno.com >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get >completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --- You are currently >subscribed to kr-net as: jscott.pilot@juno.com To unsubscribe send a >blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213w construction and first flight at http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Engine not ready :( From: "Jim Whiteshield" Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:49:04 -0000 X-Message-Number: 12 I wrote to Freedom Motors and got the following reply: > Dear Jim, Thank you for your interest in the Rotapower engine. We are currently in limited batch production of our 530cc engine. Following this first batch of 150 engines we will be running a second limited batch of 1500 engines. Toward the end of this second run we hope to be gearing up to begin full scale production of the 530cc engine. Also at this time we will begin limited batch runs of our larger and smaller engines. Price will be determined by several factors, but it is expected to be competitively priced with other engines currently on the market of similar power. Again thank you for your interest. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Sincerely, Renee Chiea Marketing Administrator rchiea@freedom-motors.com > As you can see, they are not ready yet. I will keep you posted, as I find out more. HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Diehl gear From: Bobby Muse Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:03:43 -0600 X-Message-Number: 13 At 07:19 AM 02/22/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Please help. I have purchased the Diehl trigear for my KR2S project. >The instructions talk about gluing a "straw" on the gear prior to >applying the scotchgard glass. This "straw" will carry the brake line. >What kind of straw is used? Should this straw be plastic or waxed paper? > What thickness (diameter) should this straw be? I am assuming that >Diehl is talking about a drinking straw - or is there a composite tubing >that is called a "straw"? > >Any help is appreciated. Thanks. > > >John Wadleigh > I first decided what size brake that I was going to use. Then I went to several fast food restaurants to find a plastic shraw that was the correct size. """For me that was McDonalds, ..... I believe that this may have been the greatest R&D project ever!!""" By the way, one straw per saide is not enought, I used Hot Glue to hold the straws together and to the gear leg while glassing the gear leg. I hope it helps. Bobby Muse mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: straw & Diehl gear From: "John M. Wadleigh" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:13:31 -0700 X-Message-Number: 14 Donald Norris, Dana Overall, Jeb, Jeff Scott, Bobby Muse - You guys are great !! Thanks for the help. Tomorrow I'll be glassing those McDonald straws and the Diehl gear. John Wadleigh jwnw1@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KR engines From: "John M. Wadleigh" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:37:22 -0700 X-Message-Number: 15 There was some discussion about engines for the KR. Here is what I did. I purchased a Franklin sport 4 aircraft engine. These are the aircraft engines formally produced in the U.S. Now, these aircraft engines are produced in Poland. Bob Skaggs in Underwood,Indiana Is the distributor of new and overhauled Franklins. I purchased the sport 4, which is 116 hp for cruise, and up to 130 hp for takeoff power. The dry weight of the engine is 225 lbs - the same as an 0290 lycoming. The price is very reasonable - especially considering that this is an aircraft engine. I am told that for a flat 4 cylinder engine, the Franklin is very smooth. I am sure that there are many very talented mechanics who can convert Subaru's and VW's into aircraft engines. Since I am not experienced in converting auto - to - aircraft engines, I decided that a proven aircraft engine was the best idea for me. The Franklin was, by far, the best buy. John Wadleigh jwnw1@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KR-1 folding wing pictures From: "DAVID STUART" Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:32:03 +1300 X-Message-Number: 16 Hello Ed, Was intrested to read about the folding wing system on Moore's KR-1. I'm not to sure if the KR-1 has the same wing attatchment system as my KR-2S but if it has it could solve a lot of problems. Would appreciate some pics if you can arrange it. No problems recieving from this end. All the best for 99.........Dave david.stuart@xtra.co.nz ---------- > From: Ed Janssen > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] KR-1 folding wing pictures > Date: Tuesday, 23 February 1999 12:03 > > Netters, > > RW Moore sent me some picts of his KR-1, some of which show his folding > wing mechanism on his KR-1. To me, it looks like his airplane is ready > for a test flight. If someone, like Mike or Mark, would be interested in > volunteering to post them on their website for everyone to see, I could > scan them and send them. I don't have a website and probably wouldn't have > the time to set one up if I knew how anyway. > > E-mail me privately and we can arrange for the transfer. > > Ed Janssen > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: DAVID.STUART@xtra.co.nz > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Folding wing pics From: "DAVID STUART" Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:16:59 +1300 X-Message-Number: 17 Sorry guys and gals. This last post on folding wings should have gone to Eddie direct. --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com