From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 1999 12:14 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: March 20, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Saturday, March 20, 1999. 1. Plywood rib location 2. Help! 3. Re: KRNet CD-ROM 4. Re: KRNet CD-ROM 5. Not at ease with balancing 6. RE: Help! 7. RE: Plywood rib location 8. RE: Plywood rib location 9. RE: Help! 10. Re: Need information on 11. FTP Site 12. RE: Help! 13. Re: KRNet CD-ROM 14. Sunday get-together 15. introduction---new member 16. Re: ChinoKosh 99 17. Re: introduction---new member 18. Re: Sunday get-together 19. ChinoKosh 99 calling all KRs (Saturday April 17th) 20. ChinoKosh 99 21. Re: KRNet CD-ROM 22. looking at kr's in michigan 23. Quick question 24. Re: looking at kr's in michigan 25. Re: looking at kr's in michigan 26. Re: ChinoKosh 99 calling all KRs (Saturday April 17th) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Plywood rib location From: "Richard Parker" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 03:27:13 PST X-Message-Number: 1 Couple of questions. Suprisingly, the plans dont seem too clear in this area. ;-) How far in from the end of the center section main spar is the outboard plywood rib. The inner spar is shown at 38.00 in from that one. Is there any reason why I wouldnt want to push it in toward the fuselage as far as possible (as long as I can keep it parallel with the centerline.) I want as much room for fuel as possible. Rich Parker richontheroad@hotmail.com http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm Jaffrey, NH Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Help! From: "Richard Parker" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:23:53 PST X-Message-Number: 2 another question. on KR-2 Drawing No 2 on the 48 inch rib drawing, in reference to the chord line it says "Chord line (3 1/2' incidence)" Is this really the chord line or is it the chord line adjusted 3 1/2'? if so then i would plumb this line level? Also what is meant by the vertical reference to the spar of 3 1/2' incidence relative to dwg 1. I'm assuming 3 1/2 degrees worth of airfoil is tilted behind the spar which is perpendicular to the upper longeron. I might just be that its early but things arent making sense to me this morning. Thanks in advance Rich Parker richontheroad@hotmail.com http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm Jaffrey, NH Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KRNet CD-ROM From: "Doug Peyton" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:28:04 PST X-Message-Number: 3 I for one like to read the advertisements posted on the KRNet and I think we should establish a convention that its OK to post, but the subject line should specify "advertisement" so that those folks who don't feel like reading ads can just simply delete them all before going through their mail. Also, the KR-Net would be a good topic for a forum at the convention in September - we could develop a mutually suitable convention for using KR-Net. For another example, I would like to find out what Adobe Reader and Acrobat are. >From: "Oscar Zuniga" >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" >To: "KR-net users group" >Subject: [kr-net] KRNet CD-ROM >Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 05:39:15 PST > >I had to respond to this one before somebody asked: I am part-way >through putting all the KRNet and Newsletter archives onto CDs in PDF >format. This was supposed to be done sometime ago, but in the interim I >started building an airplane ;o) > >Anyway, I still have all the stuff and have converted some files to PDFs >already, so you can find things easily using the Adobe Acrobat engine >and also so that the CDs are platform-independent (Acrobat is available >for free in most flavors of OS, and will be included on the CD). But if >I were to mention that I was going to charge $10 for the CDs I might be >accused of trying to make a fast buck, so I'd better not mention that, >nor the plan to turn the proceeds over to the KRNet admin costs or to >the NLF fund ;o) > >Now if Kerry will keep prodding me to get the darn things done, they >might be ready soon! > >Oscar Zuniga >Medford, Oregon >website at http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Dropzone/5610/ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: doug_peyton@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KRNet CD-ROM From: EveninBrz@aol.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 08:15:28 EST X-Message-Number: 4 Adobe Systems Incorporated ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Not at ease with balancing From: Ron Freiberger Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 08:40:41 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5 IMHO, anyone who's uncomfortable with balancing probably won't like building an airplane. Remember, you don't have a solution if you don't have a problem. If you don't like to follow the plans, start your own design and call it a xxxxx. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Help! From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 07:56:44 -0600 X-Message-Number: 6 > on KR-2 Drawing No 2 on the 48 inch rib drawing, in reference to the > chord line it says "Chord line (3 1/2' incidence)" Richard, I didn't realize the plans were this stupid! It's been a long long time since I looked at that drawing. I always thought surely there was a line that was inclined 3.5 degrees to the chord line, but there's not. The line you mention (labeled 3 1/2" chord line) is really just the chord line. A line should be drawn from the front edge of the chord line up and to the rear at a 3.5 degree angle (perpendicular to the spars) and this would be the LEVEL line. Just to make it easy on you, go to the trailing edge and mark a point 2.94" above the tip of the chord line. Then connect that point to the chord line at the tip, and you'll have the level line that should have been shown on these templates from DAY ONE! Everybody has a level! Very few people have an accurate level protractor. Sorry to whoever I told to use the "level" line a few weeks ago. There's NOT one! Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Plywood rib location From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 07:56:42 -0600 X-Message-Number: 7 Richard Parker wrote: > How far in from the end of the center section main spar is the outboard > plywood rib. You could screw the rib to the outside end of the spar if you wanted to (as long as you also gusset it to the spars with blocks). And the only limit to how far in you can go with the inboard one is leaving room to slide your long sanding block that you'll use to sand the foam between the two template. I left 4 inches between inboard rib and fuselage, which is about 3 inches too much. I think this is one of those places in the plans where you can do whatever you want and not screw up too bad. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Plywood rib location From: "Tom Andersen" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:28:58 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8 Thanks Mark! You just gave me another gallon or two capacity with that enlightenment. I like the idea of putting the rib on the outside of the spars, it leaves the airfoil intact except for the WAF cutouts, assuring good alignment. -Tom -----Original Message----- From: Mark Langford To: KR-net users group Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 8:54 AM Subject: [kr-net] RE: Plywood rib location >Richard Parker wrote: > >> How far in from the end of the center section main spar is the outboard >> plywood rib. > >You could screw the rib to the outside end of the spar if you wanted to (as >long as you also gusset it to the spars with blocks). And the only limit to >how far in you can go with the inboard one is leaving room to slide your >long sanding block that you'll use to sand the foam between the two >template. I left 4 inches between inboard rib and fuselage, which is about >3 inches too much. I think this is one of those places in the plans where >you can do whatever you want and not screw up too bad. > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama >mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: tomkr2s@t-three.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Help! From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 08:31:56 -0600 X-Message-Number: 9 Richard, My directions were a little vague. I left out "front" tip of the chord line. Check out this picture, and all will be clear...although I think you already had it figured out. http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/incidence.jpg Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Need information on From: "Doug Peyton" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 07:12:08 PST X-Message-Number: 10 Gregg, I think spoilerons would tend to flutter just a readily as ailerons. I just finished building counterbalances this week. It's an OK job to do and you shouldn't shy away from it. During cruise the bottoms of the counterweights are flush with the bottoms of the wings, so they are not a drag factor, if that was your concern. The plans say to use three pounds of lead; this is way too much and I had a hell of a time getting my counterbalance weights down to what was really needed. I tried the shurform file, as described in the plans, for a couple of hours, and finally ended up using my bucksaw to cut off huge amounts of excess lead. A hacksaw doesn't work on lead because the fine teeth soon clog up, but a coarse woodsaw works mighty fine. Here's what you need to do: When your ailerons are all finished and painted, install the unweighted counterbalance arms (include the two 1" AN-3 bolts in each arm which will hold the blob of lead in place)and determine the weight needed by hanging an appropriate amount of weight half way between the two bolts. I put my bolts 1/2" and 1-1/2" away from the end of the arm. As you can read in the plans, a three-inch long block of lead weighs three pounds. So for example, if you only need two pounds to counterbalance, then make your blob two inches long. The plans say to use cardboard to mould the molten lead, but you should make two small wooden boxes into which you can pour the moulten lead; this way you can accurately control the volume of lead you will use. You can use the shurform file to remove excess lead, but, as I said before, it isn't a real fast operation. Now make a slit in one end of each box which will just pass your counterbalance arms. Insert the counterbalance arms and drill through the aluminum and into the wood below to make space for the threads on the two bolts (total of four bolts in both counterweight arms). Press your bolts in so the tops of the boltheads are 1-1/8" above the top surface of the counterbalance arms. Don't install nuts on the bolts at this time; wait until you removed (ripped, chisled and pried) the wood from the finished counterbalances. When you pour the molten lead the bolt heads will be totally immersed in the lead blob. Before actually pouring molten lead, make sure the arms will arc inside the wing without touching the rear face of the rear spar! Since the aileron hinge takes up a goodly portion of the aileron spar, I used a small 1/8" aluminum plate on the front of that spar, about 3/4"x2". Two machine screws go through the small plate, the wooden spar, and the counterbalance arm. Suggest you make each arm 1-1/2" wide; my two machine screws are quite close together. >From: GREG S MARTIN >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" >To: "KR-net users group" >Subject: [kr-net] Need information on "spoilerons" >Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:13:25 -0800 > >I just figured out how to get my message on the net. So, here's the >question. > >I do not want to use ailerons as I'm not at ease with counter balancing. >So I want to use spoilerons as this is only a little spring for return in >my estimation. I did find information about spoilers only. So I'm still >looking. > >I would appreciate any information possible. > >Greg Martin > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: doug_peyton@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: FTP Site From: "caryh" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:22:51 -0500 X-Message-Number: 11 The FTP site at 24.112.208.98 is once again available to those who want the Posa Carb documents. Only the jpg files are listed now. Log on as anonymous with your userid as password. The files, posa1 to posa5, are in the pu directory. The files will be listed in a KR2 ftp site soon. Watch for the note here. Mine is just temporary. Thanks. - Cary - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Help! From: Mike Mims Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:36:44 -0800 X-Message-Number: 12 Mark Langford wrote: > > I didn't realize the plans were this stupid! It's been a long long time since I looked at that drawing. I always thought surely there was a line that was inclined 3.5 degrees to the chord line, but there's not.>>>> I surely thought that there was a level and a 3.5 degree line on the plans to but then I remembered that I drew those lines on there after the first time I read them. I think I used the 1"= 1 degree at 60"s formula or something like that. Not being a CAD user it was a better option that trying to shoot a straight line off of my little clear school boy protractor. :o) -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims KR290S (Sky Pig) ,..Building ailerons and sanding the wings... mailto:mikemims@home.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KRNet CD-ROM From: cartera Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:16:19 -0700 X-Message-Number: 13 Hi, Advertising on this net is "not" what this net is for, builders questions and help. Anyone who has a KR question or need of a supplier, just ask! Adobe Reader and Acrobat are the same program, it's an editor to read PDF(portable data format) files. A good reader. You can get one for free from http://www.adobe.com Doug Peyton wrote: > > I for one like to read the advertisements posted on the KRNet and > I think we should establish a convention that its OK to post, but the > subject line should specify "advertisement" so that those folks who > don't feel like reading ads can just simply delete them all before going > through their mail. > Also, the KR-Net would be a good topic for a forum at the > convention in September - we could develop a mutually suitable > convention for using KR-Net. For another example, I would like to find > out what Adobe Reader and Acrobat are. -- Adrian VE6AFY Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Sunday get-together From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 14:41:44 -0600 X-Message-Number: 14 Southeastern KRNetHeads, Tomorrow's still on. Several folks from South Alabama (Grey Eagles Club) and Chris Gardiner will be showing up at about 10:00, as well as Dana Overall and Dr. Dean (I think he'll win longest distance travelled). Anybody else in the area is welcome to come. I only caution you that (contrary to what Dana said) excellent craftsmanship may be hard to find. My KR2S is upside down, with all warts in full view. I'm right in the middle of making the first outer wing, the home-made wing skin way.. It'll be more of a discussion than a look at my project, I'm sure. Anybody that wants to come should aim for north of Huntsville. If coming in on I-565 take Rideout Road till it ends in about 3 miles, then right (north) on AL 53 two more miles to the light at Kelly Springs Road, then about a mile to 296 Taylor Denton Lane (go straight when the road bears right). Otherwise find Jordan Lane (AL 53) in Huntsville and go north till you hit the light at Kelly Springs Road, etc. If coming from the north, get off of I-65 2 miles north of Alabama at the TN 2 mile marker and turn left (south). Go straight (it turns into AL53) about 20 miles to the redlight at Kelly Springs and turn left, go a mile, and onto Taylor Denton Lane. If you get lost call me at 256-851-9902. I guess I shoulda published a map. Maybe next time... Everybody's welcome. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: introduction---new member From: "dene collett" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:2:48 X-Message-Number: 15 Hi all My name is Dene collett from South Africa(Port Elizabeth).I thought I should formally introduce myself as a new member of your group . I am building a slightly modified version of a KR and look forward to taking part in some good discussions with you guys.I will just be a spectator for a few days to get the feel of what the latest topic is and so on. later dene ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: ChinoKosh 99 From: WHin77@aol.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:35:57 EST X-Message-Number: 16 I'm in just say when. Bought the plans, read atleast 10 times (lot's of airline time between Ont, SeaTac, Vancouver, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Rigina, Calgary and back) Wendell (Wendy) Hinman ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: introduction---new member From: DClarke351@aol.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:53:36 EST X-Message-Number: 17 We all would like to welcome you - new member from South Africa! You say you are building a slightly modified version of the KR. Would you like to share with us the basic details? We are allways interested in ideas concerning the KR. Some are good, and some are, well, at least the good intentions are there. If there is anything we can help you with or perhaps you can help us with something we are all here on the net. Don Clarke. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Sunday get-together From: Mike Mims Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:57:03 -0800 X-Message-Number: 18 Mark Langford wrote: > > Southeastern KRNetHeads, > > Tomorrow's still on. Take photos and publish to the web big guy! -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims KR290S (Sky Pig) ,..Building ailerons and sanding the wings... mailto:mikemims@home.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: ChinoKosh 99 calling all KRs (Saturday April 17th) From: Mike Mims Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 14:02:08 -0800 X-Message-Number: 19 Calling Larry Rhea and Bruce Marteney Do you guys think you would be up to pulling (Bruce could taxi) your KRs over to our hanger for the get together at Chino? Do you guys know of any other KRs at Chino that we could ask over? I think as it stands the date will be Saturday April 17th. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims KR290S (Sky Pig) ,..Building ailerons and sanding the wings... mailto:mikemims@home.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: ChinoKosh 99 From: Mike Mims Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 14:05:42 -0800 X-Message-Number: 20 Chino heads Lets settle on a date so we can spread the word. Lets shoot for the 17th of April. That's the Saturday after final tax day which should free up the tax man (Mr. Bell) to attend. :o) Let me know so I can call Janette so she can invites folks out too. And yes you must wear your Chinos, I understand they sell them at the GAP and Old Navy. :o) -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims KR290S (Sky Pig) ,..Building ailerons and sanding the wings... mailto:mikemims@home.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KRNet CD-ROM From: "Andy" Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:40:21 -0800 X-Message-Number: 21 -----Original Message----- From: cartera To: KR-net users group Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 11:54 AM Subject: [kr-net] Re: KRNet CD-ROM >Hi, >Advertising on this net is "not" what this net is for, builders >questions and help. Anyone who has a KR question or need of a supplier, >just ask! I gotta add my two cents worth here. Many of the products available from builders who have found a way to do it cheaper, easier, or better will NEVER be advertised in any other way than a discussion forum, simply because they are not in it for the bucks as much as for a love of aviation. No ads mean we wont know when or where these items are available. And the discussion that a new product generates, re: is it really better, etc. are very valuable to new builders like myself, who haven't had the benefit of years of immersion in the KR mysticism. I understand if we don't accept ads for Commercial products available in any Aviation rag, but I welcome ANY KR specific products being brought to my attention! andy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: looking at kr's in michigan From: "Keith Crawford" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:19:52 PST X-Message-Number: 22 Howdy kr fans I went down state yesterday to look at a couple of kr projects. The first is owned by lester hemp from Grandrapids. he has had his kit since 93.He is about 75% finished. his fuselage is in the panting stage.his wings are glassed and waiting to be painted. He will be running the vw1800 I think? He has stuck to the plans to a T. It was upside-down so I did'nt get to sit in it. The next is owned by Dorin ?? from muskegon. he has had his kit since 94. He is currently about 90% finished. I got to sit in this one. Are all these canopy this cramped. I'm a little guy and my head was kinked right over. Well thats all I know. KEITH CRAWFORD MESICK MI CRAWF75@HOTMAIL.COM Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Quick question From: "Keith Crawford" Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:28:21 PST X-Message-Number: 23 Hay kr fans How are these litle planes in a wind and chop. Keith Crawford. Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: looking at kr's in michigan From: Mike Mims Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:54:11 -0800 X-Message-Number: 24 Keith Crawford wrote: > > I got to sit in this one. > Are all these canopy this cramped. I'm a little guy and my head was > kinked right over. Well thats all I know. > See what happens when you build to the plans! :o) You can build the KR so that you have plenty of head room. If you go to my site you can see a 6 foot person sitting in my KR with over 4 inches of headroom to spare. Also more than likely you will be building a KR2S which uses the Dragonfly canopy and it has more room than the old little KR bubble. The picture of my canopy is at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/9901105.jpg -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims KR290S (Sky Pig) ,..Building ailerons and sanding the wings... mailto:mikemims@home.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: looking at kr's in michigan From: Donald Reid Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 20:07:41 -0500 X-Message-Number: 25 Keith Crawford wrote: > I got to sit in this one. > Are all these canopy this cramped. I'm a little guy and my head was > kinked right over. Well thats all I know. I second the opinion that the Dragonfly canopy is the way to go. The KR is a blown bubble style, so to get the head room you need for the pilot and passenger, the center of the canopy will be at least 6 inches above your head. This raises the lines and it does not look as sleek. The D'fly is flat from above the pilot's head to above the passenger's head. You don't need to raise it very high to get adequate room and you still have the sleek lines. -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: ChinoKosh 99 calling all KRs (Saturday April 17th) From: Tom Stokes Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:02:03 -0800 X-Message-Number: 26 Mike I know I promised to come and would sure like to see the Sky Pig one more time but Uncle has decided top move me to Pine Bluff, AR and I should be just about getting there on April 17. Any KR builders/flyers in Pine Bluff area Tom Stokes in Reno NV On Sat, 20 Mar 1999 14:02:08 -0800 Mike Mims writes: >Calling Larry Rhea and Bruce Marteney >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >Micheal Mims >KR290S (Sky Pig) ,..Building ailerons and sanding the wings... >mailto:mikemims@home.com >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >Aliso Viejo Ca >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com