From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 12:25 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: April 25, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Sunday, April 25, 1999. 1. Re: Intergrated Cabin and Carb Heater Manifold 2. Posted: Intergrated Cabin and Carb Heater Manifold 3. Elevator Hinges 4. Re: Elevator Hinges 5. Re: Elevator Hinges 6. RE: Intergrated Cabin and Carb Heater Manifold 7. Re: Intergrated Cabin and Carb Heater Manifold 8. Re: Elevator Hinges 9. Re: Elevator Hinges 10. Re: KR builders ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Intergrated Cabin and Carb Heater Manifold From: "dene collett" Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:28:04 +0200 X-Message-Number: 1 Ronald, Please include my email address next time you send the notes out on the cabin/carb heat system. Thanks Dene Collett 50% done-- 80% to go ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Posted: Intergrated Cabin and Carb Heater Manifold From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:28:56 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2 > Ronald, Please include my email address next time you send the > notes out on > the cabin/carb heat system. They are posted on my web site at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/carb_heat/ Kimball, you are more than welcome to put them on the KR FAQ site, and I'll remove them from mine to save a little space. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Elevator Hinges From: "Dean Collette" Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:07:05 -0500 X-Message-Number: 3 Netters, I never liked the hinges that the plans describe, and judging by all that has been written about the hinges, a lot of people agree with me. So after changing things, I built my tail - we'll just call that one a learning experience. I am now in the process of re-building the tail, and I have figured out a different way to do the hinges. If you would like to see more about these go to http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/hinges.htm They are a little more expensive then your standard KR hinges, but, Oh, the smooth - self-adjusting action! And the nice thing is - they are light weight, and you don't have to make any parts - all out of it is out of the catalog. Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Elevator Hinges From: Donald Reid Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:53:57 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4 Dean Collette wrote: > > Netters, > I never liked the hinges that the plans describe, and judging by all that > has been written about the hinges, a lot of people agree with me. So after > changing things, I built my tail - we'll just call that one a learning > experience. I am now in the process of re-building the tail, and I have > figured out a different way to do the hinges. If you would like to see more > about these go to http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/hinges.htm The only suggestion that I would make is to use two eyebolts instead of one, then the bolt is in double shear instead of single shear. I thought of essentially the same thing, long after I had finished and mounted mine. -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Elevator Hinges From: "Dean Collette" Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 19:38:46 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5 Don Reid wrote; >The only suggestion that I would make is to use two eyebolts instead of >one, then the bolt is in double shear instead of single shear. I >thought of essentially the same thing, long after I had finished and >mounted mine. You are exactly right - it would be better to have the bolts in double shear. I tried everything to do just that, but the problem is, there are no clevis forks made, to my knowledge, that would allow the rod end bearing to ride in the middle. If I used two eyebolts, the spacing is too wide and now spacers must be machined to prevent lateral motion of the elevator in relation to the stab, and with the type of tail that I am using, I cannot have any lateral motion. I even worked on solutions using aluminum C-channel, but again, parts would have to be machined to get it to work. Since the loads of the elevator are relatively small, and, I have increased the number of these hinges to 7, I'm not worried about the single shear. But, if somebody could point me to a 3/16" clevis that puts the center of the hole at 0.40625" with tines 0.312" apart - I'd sure love to hear about it. Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Intergrated Cabin and Carb Heater Manifold From: "Eduardo Iglesias" Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:48:55 -0300 X-Message-Number: 6 Dear Ron IŽam very interested in your integrated cabin and carb heater. Can you send me the drawings by email? Thank you Eduardo Argentrina -----Mensaje original----- De: RONALD R. EASON Para: KR-net users group Fecha: jueves, 22 de abril de 1999 23:03 Asunto: [kr-net] Intergrated Cabin and Carb Heater Manifold >I Have designed a "Intergrated Cabin and Carb Heater Manifold" which >attaches to the fire wall. It's made of Sheet aluminum and can be very easy >to fab with a break, it includes 2 splitter dampers. It eliminates a nose >intake in the cowling and alot of the hosing running inside the engine >compartment. It uses NASA intakes in side of cowling just in front of the >fire wall. I have fab drawings if anyone wants to see how its done. E-mail >me and I will send them. I got thr idea from the Jaberu engine setup and >its similar to it. > >KRRon > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Intergrated Cabin and Carb Heater Manifold From: Ron Freiberger Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 21:56:34 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7 Dene, I don't know your e-mail address. Mayhap you should send the message direct to the appropriate ronald??? -----Original Message----- From: bounce-kr-net-19348@telelists.com [mailto:bounce-kr-net-19348@telelists.com] On Behalf Of dene collett Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 1:28 PM To: KR-net users group Subject: [kr-net] Re: Intergrated Cabin and Carb Heater Manifold Ronald, Please include my email address next time you send the notes out on the cabin/carb heat system. Thanks Dene Collett 50% done-- 80% to go --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: ronald.freiberger@cwix.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Elevator Hinges From: cartera Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:32:03 -0600 X-Message-Number: 8 Dean Collette wrote: > > Don Reid wrote; > > >The only suggestion that I would make is to use two eyebolts instead of > >one, then the bolt is in double shear instead of single shear. I > >thought of essentially the same thing, long after I had finished and > >mounted mine. > > You are exactly right - it would be better to have the bolts in double > shear. I tried everything to do just that, but the problem is, there are no > clevis forks made, to my knowledge, that would allow the rod end bearing to > ride in the middle. If I used two eyebolts, the spacing is too wide and now > spacers must be machined to prevent lateral motion of the elevator in > relation to the stab, and with the type of tail that I am using, I cannot > have any lateral motion. I even worked on solutions using aluminum > C-channel, but again, parts would have to be machined to get it to work. > > Since the loads of the elevator are relatively small, and, I have increased > the number of these hinges to 7, I'm not worried about the single shear. > But, if somebody could point me to a 3/16" clevis that puts the center of > the hole at 0.40625" with tines 0.312" apart - I'd sure love to hear about > it. > > Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin > mailto:drdean@execpc.com > Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cartera@cuug.ab.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com Hi Dean and KRnetters, This is a problem with most builders we all have a tendency to overbuild. The single eyebolt is more than adequate. The idea is excellent, wish I had done something like this on mine. The eyebolt is hardened, try and grind it! To minimumize end play, put the RE on one side of the eyebolt and the next RE on the other side of the eyebolt and with 7 hinges, which 5 would more then adequate. But, it is your airplane and you can build it a heavy as you want. Like you say it is not a high stress area. Notice that you are using a castillated nut and a split pin which is the correct nut around a control rigging. My 2 cents worth. Happy Flying! -- Adrian VE6AFY Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Elevator Hinges From: Michael Taglieri Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:09:57 EDT X-Message-Number: 9 >You are exactly right - it would be better to have the bolts in double >shear. I tried everything to do just that, but the problem is, there are no >clevis forks made, to my knowledge, that would allow the rod end bearing to >ride in the middle. If I used two eyebolts, the spacing is too wide and now >spacers must be machined to prevent lateral motion of the elevator in >relation to the stab, and with the type of tail that I am using, I >cannot >have any lateral motion. Couldn't you just grind the circular lip from the inside of the two outer eyebolts? Then you could space them as close as you wanted. Of course, this would probably weaken them slightly, but hinges made from eyebolts would be so much stronger than the ones in the plans that it should not matter. Mike Taglieri _____________________________________________ "Fundamentally the marksman aims at himself." - from Zen And the Art of Archery ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KR builders From: "Martin Mulvey" Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:57:04 -0700 X-Message-Number: 10 Thanks Marvin, Just started glassing the wings. Nice weekend and temps consistent. So far so good. As you offered, anyone can come to see mine as it is going anytime. All the best!! Marty ----- Original Message ----- From: MARVIN MCCOY To: KR-net users group Sent: 25 April, 1999 09:56 Subject: [kr-net] Re: KR builders > Monty: > I am in Seattle. Still have a ways to go on my KR. Martin Mulvey is > in Puyallup and his KR is comming along fine, there is another one next > to his hanger that is almost ready to fly, if it has'nt yet. There are > several more around this area. If you are ever comming up this way look > us up. > > Marvin McCoy > Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing field > -------------------- > > Monty Dotson wrote: > > > > I am just about ready to purchase a KR2S kit and would like to meet > > biulders of KR aircraft. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kr2smm@email.msn.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com