From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 12:22 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: April 27, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Tuesday, April 27, 1999. 1. Re: Canopy (bubble) Fabrication 2. Western Aircraft Supply 3. RV: More about canopy 4. Re: Western Aircraft Supply 5. Western Aircraft Supply 6. NEW TELEPHONE SCAM!! 7. Tell Me How 8. Re: Canopy (bubble) Fabrication 9. Re: Western Aircraft Supply 10. Western Aircraft Supply 11. West Aircraft Supply & KRNet Lets get on 12. Re: Western Aircraft Supply 13. Re: Canopy (bubble) Fabrication 14. Homemade strobes and such 15. Salutations 16. Re: Western Aircraft Supply 17. Re: Tell Me How 18. Re: Canopy (bubble) Fabrication 19. Re: Tell Me How 20. Copper foil for antennas 21. Re: Homemade strobes and such 22. "Typical" doctors ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Canopy (bubble) Fabrication From: RFG842@aol.com Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:10:08 EDT X-Message-Number: 1 Jim: Radio Shack tags their strob as an emergency strobe light, to connect to existing security systems; catalog no. 49-527 and it sells around here for 29.95. Here's the specs: Solid state/Xenon strobe tube 12 volts DC, 200 ma max power consumption flash rate: 110 to 150 times per minute Temp range -40F to +185F Operating life, approx 150 hours Candle power 100,000 Have not had a chance to take one apart yet but it looks like you could replace the base and strobe housing to mount a unit whever you want and just run an 18 guage positive and ground to the unit. Sure beats the cost of an approved strobe. Cost and power draw is reasonable enough to run three units, tail and each wingtip. Let me know what you think? Bob ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Western Aircraft Supply From: "Dean Collette" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:38:54 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2 Netters, Over the last 6 months or so, several people have written to KRNet about buying Sitka from Western Aircraft Supply in Canada. Let me relate my recent experience with this company. First off, I have always purchased spruce from Wicks, and I have always been very impressed with the quality of the wood that they sell for aircraft. As I understand it, Wicks buys their spruce by the train-car load, as they use HUGE amounts of it for pianos and the organs that they manufacture. Only the finest wood is inspected and sold as aircraft grade. So, maybe I'm a bit spoiled. On 4/12/99 I called Wicks and had them quote 3 pieces of spruce - $98.00 plus 12.50 shipping, but they were currently backordered for about 3 weeks, so I didn't order the wood. I then called Western Aircraft and talked with Jean Peters (the owner / operator) and he quoted the same pieces for $129.00 including shipping. I explained to him that timing was crucial and that I needed the wood by 4/22/99, and offered to pay additional shipping to have it sent overnight. He told me that was no problem, and he would cut it that same day, but would not ship it until my certified bank draft arrived (he doesn't take credit cards.) I mailed the bank draft via Fed Ex (which cost me another $14.00) on 4/13/99 with a letter outlining everything that we had discussed on the phone. The check arrived the next day (4/14/99). On 4/21/99 I called to make sure that everything was shipped according to plan, because I had no wood yet. He told me then, that he had shipped it THAT morning. The wood arrived at my house this morning (almost a week after he had promised it.) So, I opened up the box. All three pieces were cut to the proper dimensions. But, one of the pieces has a large knot in it. Fortunately, this will fall in an area that will be cut off, if it wasn't - the piece would be unusable. On another piece the grain seemed a little steep to me and in measuring it found it to be 1" in 15.5" which is barely within the acceptable range (1" in 15"). I checked one of the outboard spars that I purchased from Wicks to see what the grain slope was - less then 1/4" in 8 feet! No wonder the slope seemed a little steep. The last piece was fine. I paid more money for poorer quality spruce and had to wait longer then what I wanted. From here on out - all my spruce comes from Wicks. I don't care how long it takes. Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RV: More about canopy From: "Eduardo Iglesias" Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:44:42 -0300 X-Message-Number: 3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BE903E.C1F84D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Mensaje original----- De: Eduardo Iglesias Para: krnet@telelists.com Fecha: lunes, 26 de abril de 1999 0:03 Asunto: More about canopy As I didn't know if the message could arrive you, I didn't include a = comment that can be good to save time, money and tears for the net=B4s = that they attempt the booth bubble: =20 The mold of which speaks the article, one can make using plaster on an = iron mesh or wire (of those that are used to make ceilings, with form of = rhombuses) instead of the foam. =20 The plaster accepts repairs and it is better finished that the foam = (poliuretano foam). =20 The procedure is basically the same one: you leaves of one cuaderna = (false canopy bow) or better more. On them the wire is nailed, and then = covers with paper mach=E9, or directly with paper of daily and above the = plaster goes. =20 A wood is made with the female form of the profile ( understands each = other, the profile seen of front) and it=B4s glued a paper of sandpaper = fino( 200 or more sandpaper) to give him it forms sanding of ahead back, = first a side and then the other one. =20 If there are difficulties to understand each other, I=B4ll try to send a = drawing, it is worthwhile. =20 Notices: I didn't still make it!. =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BE903E.C1F84D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
-----Mensaje = original-----
De:=20 Eduardo Iglesias <emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar>=
Para:=20 krnet@telelists.com = <krnet@telelists.com>
Fec= ha:=20 lunes, 26 de abril de 1999 0:03
Asunto: More about=20 canopy

As I didn't know if the message = could arrive=20 you, I didn't include a comment that can be good to save time, money and = tears=20 for the net´s that they attempt the booth bubble: 
The = mold of=20 which speaks the article, one can make using plaster  on an iron = mesh or=20 wire (of those that are used to make ceilings, with form of rhombuses) = instead=20 of the foam. 
The plaster accepts repairs and it is better = finished=20 that the foam (poliuretano foam). 
The procedure is basically = the same=20 one: you leaves of one cuaderna (false canopy bow) or better more. On = them the=20 wire is nailed, and then covers with paper maché, or directly = with paper=20 of daily and above the plaster goes. 
A wood is made with the = female=20 form of the profile ( understands each other, the profile seen of front) = and=20 it´s glued a paper of sandpaper fino( 200 or more sandpaper) to = give him=20 it forms sanding of ahead back, first a side and then the other = one. =20
If there are difficulties to understand each other, I´ll try = to send a=20 drawing, it is worthwhile. 
Notices: I didn't still make = it!. =20
 
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BE903E.C1F84D00-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Western Aircraft Supply From: EveninBrz@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:58:52 EDT X-Message-Number: 4 In a message dated 4/27/1999 10:35:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, drdean@execpc.com writes: << I paid more money for poorer quality spruce and had to wait longer then what I wanted. From here on out - all my spruce comes from Wicks. I don't care how long it takes. >> There is nothing like the feeling you get from prompt service and getting what you pay for is there? Very satisfying. I ordered the Corvair Conversion plans from Winn on March 8th. Not only have I not received them but have gotton no reply from him after calling 5 times. It does not seem unreasonable to me to expect prompt service, the sellor expects prompt payment. Larry Shull ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Western Aircraft Supply From: cartera Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:05:29 -0600 X-Message-Number: 5 It is amazing how a person can be so biased and lack objectivity. After reading Dr. Deans message I became very upset that Jean Peters would do such a thing. However, I took this message up to Jean and had him read it. Now I have the other side of the story which is entirely different. The "big" knot was nothing more than a small light brown spot about the size a a match stem which did not in any way effect the quality of the wood, the rings were well within good aircraft wood specifications. As far as the freight was concerned it could have gone overnight, but a cost of $100.00 rather then the lower rate. This is the carriers cost and not Westerns. Jean has forgotten more about aircraft and wood than you will ever know and most of the Falcos' in North America are flying with his wood. I think your attitude about this whole matter leaves a lot to be desired. Guess, you think when you say jump one is to ask how high! Jean did not think much of your superiority attitude on the phone either and he is glad that your will remain with Wicks. This man has been in the aircraft business for a long time and he always gives quality to any new kid on the block, his honesty is paramount. I know I will be flamed for this, that's okay, because I can just throw the big switch. Happy Flying!!! -- Adrian VE6AFY Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: NEW TELEPHONE SCAM!! From: "RONALD R. EASON" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:19:23 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6 A friend of mine passed this info on to me today and I share it with you... NEW TELEPHONE SCAM!! I received a telephone call last evening from an individual identifying himself as an AT&T Service technician who was conducting a test on our telephone lines. He stated that to complete the test I should touch nine(9), zero (0), the pound sign (#) and then hang up. Luckily, I was suspicious and refused. Upon contacting the telephone company, I was informed that by pushing 90#, you give the requesting individual full access to your telephone line, which allows them to place long distance telephone calls billed to your home phone . I was further informed that this scam has been originating from many of the local jails/prisons. I have also verified this information with UCB telecomm, Pacific Bell, MCI, Bell Atlantic, GTE and NYNEX. Please beware. DO NOT press 90# for ANYONE. The GTE Security Department requested that I share this information with EVERYONE I KNOW. PLEASE pass this on to everyone YOU know. If you have mailing lists and/or newsletters from organizations you are connected with, I encourage you to pass on this information to them, too. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Tell Me How From: SClay10106@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:51:52 EDT X-Message-Number: 7 I am in the process of purchasing a kr-1 i need to know how to make the front engine cowling or is there a place to buy it already complete. i have been told to make the shape with foam the cover it with glass and when dry cut the foam away from the glass is this the best and only way. I thank you all 4 all the help i have recieved here. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Canopy (bubble) Fabrication From: "R.W. Moore" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:14:45 -0400 X-Message-Number: 8 J. C. Whitney has a strobe light about $29.95 RWM -----Original Message----- From: RFG842@aol.com To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 6:23 AM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Canopy (bubble) Fabrication > > >Jim: > >Radio Shack tags their strob as an emergency strobe light, to connect to >existing security systems; catalog no. 49-527 and it sells around here for >29.95. Here's the specs: > >Solid state/Xenon strobe tube >12 volts DC, 200 ma max power consumption >flash rate: 110 to 150 times per minute >Temp range -40F to +185F >Operating life, approx 150 hours >Candle power 100,000 > > >Have not had a chance to take one apart yet but it looks like you could >replace the base and strobe housing to mount a unit whever you want and just >run an 18 guage positive and ground to the unit. Sure beats the cost of an >approved strobe. Cost and power draw is reasonable enough to run three >units, tail and each wingtip. > >Let me know what you think? > >Bob > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rwmoore@alltel.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Western Aircraft Supply From: "JEAN" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:35:39 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9 Typical Doctor. -----Original Message----- From: cartera To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 7:48 PM Subject: [kr-net] Western Aircraft Supply >It is amazing how a person can be so biased and lack objectivity. After >reading Dr. Deans message I became very upset that Jean Peters would do >such a thing. However, I took this message up to Jean and had him read >it. Now I have the other side of the story which is entirely different. >The "big" knot was nothing more than a small light brown spot about the >size a a match stem which did not in any way effect the quality of the >wood, the rings were well within good aircraft wood specifications. As >far as the freight was concerned it could have gone overnight, but a >cost of $100.00 rather then the lower rate. This is the carriers cost >and not Westerns. Jean has forgotten more about aircraft and wood than >you will ever know and most of the Falcos' in North America are flying >with his wood. I think your attitude about this whole matter leaves a >lot to be desired. Guess, you think when you say jump one is to ask how >high! Jean did not think much of your superiority attitude on the phone >either and he is glad that your will remain with Wicks. This man has >been in the aircraft business for a long time and he always gives >quality to any new kid on the block, his honesty is paramount. >I know I will be flamed for this, that's okay, because I can just throw >the big switch. Happy Flying!!! >-- >Adrian VE6AFY >Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca >http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: N4DD@prodigy.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Western Aircraft Supply From: "Dean Collette" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:56:18 -0500 X-Message-Number: 10 Adrian and others, I just got off the telephone with Mr. Peters of Western Aircraft Supply. When I opened the package of wood this afternoon I was very angry that this wood had taken as long as it did to arrive, and the knot really upset me, and noting the slope of the grain did too. But I was wrong to post that email. The better thing to do was to call Mr. Peters before posting. Bad form. Mr. Peters offered to replace the wood, and ship it at no charge to me. I guess that I can't ask for anything more then that. He also explained that my Fed Ex package was not delivered the next day, as I had been told. Mr. Peters also looked into shipping the package air freight, but due to the cost, shipped it via ground. He had estimated the shipping fee to be $30, and that was what he charged me, but when he found that to ship the package air freight would have been more then $100, he couldn't make up the difference and still make a profit. I completely understand. The knot is NOT a pinhole knot. It was sufficient to render the wood un-useable if I could not cut it out. The rough dimensions are 1" x 1/2" x 1/4" deep. When I explained this to Mr. Peters he did agree, that a knot that size would be un-useable, and had I brought it to his attention immediately, he would have replaced the board for nothing. The ring count was well within specifications on all of the boards that I received, but it was the slope of the grain down the long axis of the wood that I was concerned with, while not bad enough to reject the board, it was close as I mentioned before. I apologized to Mr. Peters. Had I talked with him first, I would have known that he is very interested in making his customers happy with the products that they purchase from him. Knowing what I know now, I would not hesitate to buy spruce from Western Aircraft. Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: West Aircraft Supply & KRNet Lets get on From: "Rick Hubka" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:26:28 -0600 X-Message-Number: 11 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01BE90EC.3A830820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lets just forget the Western Aircraft Supply wood issue. I have meet Jean Peters (one of the nicest supplier/builder/designers = you could meet. Yes! he has designed and built his own plane) and I've = seen his shop and his wood and I will be buying all my spruce from him = with great comfort in the quality I will get. Dean Collette (will probably have his own homebuilt company some day) = was the first person to email and welcome me to the KRNet group and YES = I will be buying my WAF's and more from his Trailing Edge Technoligies = also with great comfort in the quality I will get. Here's a small quote = from that first email from Dean " Sorry for the latest onslaught of = email - KRNet is usually not like this, I assure you. There has been a = lot of things brewing lately, and I guess it all came to a head = yesterday - that's just how it goes some days.". Thanks for the welcome = Dean!! =20 KRNet is a great medium and with hundreds of readers (mostly silent) = it(KRNet) can also be used to destroy, humiliation, etc... A KR builder = by his/her choice to build one will make more mistakes than most people = ever will. Sometimes when things don't go right(they usually don't) = $#@^%#@^%#@ So what the hell. Lets get back to helping each other. I'm starting the boat in a few weeks. So far I have heard 50/50 = opinions on whether to put the plywood on the sides before or after = forming the boat. What!?!?!?!?!?!? Thanks go out to Jim Morehead who mailed me his plans for his home made = wooden tapped gusset clamps. I have now made 100 of the little suckers = and I never knew you could tap oak(and I considered myself a wood = worker). Thanks Jim (kr2jm@aol.com). Man... Those plans. I just have to read them over dozens of times. I = do get the answers. they just don't jump out at ya. Happy building... Rick Hubka Calgary, Alberta Canada ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01BE90EC.3A830820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lets just forget the Western Aircraft Supply wood=20 issue.
 
I have meet Jean Peters (one of the nicest=20 supplier/builder/designers you could meet.  Yes! he has designed = and built=20 his own plane) and I've seen his shop and his wood and I will be buying = all my=20 spruce from him with great comfort in the quality I will = get.
 
Dean Collette (will probably have his own homebuilt = company=20 some day) was the first person to email and welcome me to the KRNet = group and=20 YES I will be buying my WAF's and more from his Trailing Edge = Technoligies also=20 with great comfort in the quality I will get.  Here's a small quote = from=20 that first email from Dean " Sorry for the latest = onslaught of=20 email - KRNet is usually not like this, I assure you. There has been a = lot of=20 things brewing lately, and I guess it all came to a head yesterday - = that's just=20 how it goes some days.".  Thanks for the welcome Dean!!
 
KRNet is a great medium and with hundreds of readers = (mostly=20 silent) it(KRNet) can also be used to destroy, humiliation, etc...  = A KR builder by his/her choice to build one will make more = mistakes=20 than most people ever will.  Sometimes when things don't go = right(they=20 usually don't) $#@^%#@^%#@
 
So what the hell.   Lets get back to = helping each=20 other.
 
I'm starting the boat in a few weeks.  So far I = have=20 heard 50/50 opinions on whether to put the plywood on the sides before = or after=20 forming the boat. What!?!?!?!?!?!?
 
Thanks go out to Jim Morehead who mailed me his = plans for his=20 home made wooden tapped gusset clamps.  I have now made 100 of the = little=20 suckers and I never knew you could tap oak(and I considered myself a = wood=20 worker).  Thanks Jim (kr2jm@aol.com).
 
Man...  Those plans.  I just have to read = them over=20 dozens of times.  I do get the answers.  they just don't jump = out at=20 ya.
 
Happy building...
 
Rick Hubka
Calgary, Alberta   =20 Canada
------=_NextPart_000_0094_01BE90EC.3A830820-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Western Aircraft Supply From: cartera Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:34:47 -0600 X-Message-Number: 12 Dean Collette wrote: > > Adrian and others, > > I just got off the telephone with Mr. Peters of Western Aircraft Supply. > > When I opened the package of wood this afternoon I was very angry that this > wood had taken as long as it did to arrive, and the knot really upset me, > and noting the slope of the grain did too. But I was wrong to post that > email. The better thing to do was to call Mr. Peters before posting. Bad > form. > > Mr. Peters offered to replace the wood, and ship it at no charge to me. I > guess that I can't ask for anything more then that. He also explained that > my Fed Ex package was not delivered the next day, as I had been told. Mr. > Peters also looked into shipping the package air freight, but due to the > cost, shipped it via ground. He had estimated the shipping fee to be $30, > and that was what he charged me, but when he found that to ship the package > air freight would have been more then $100, he couldn't make up the > difference and still make a profit. I completely understand. > > The knot is NOT a pinhole knot. It was sufficient to render the wood > un-useable if I could not cut it out. The rough dimensions are 1" x 1/2" x > 1/4" deep. When I explained this to Mr. Peters he did agree, that a knot > that size would be un-useable, and had I brought it to his attention > immediately, he would have replaced the board for nothing. The ring count > was well within specifications on all of the boards that I received, but it > was the slope of the grain down the long axis of the wood that I was > concerned with, while not bad enough to reject the board, it was close as I > mentioned before. > > I apologized to Mr. Peters. Had I talked with him first, I would have known > that he is very interested in making his customers happy with the products > that they purchase from him. Knowing what I know now, I would not hesitate > to buy spruce from Western Aircraft. > > Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin > mailto:drdean@execpc.com > Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cartera@cuug.ab.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com Dr. Dean, Nothing further needs to be said, you have my pat on your back! Happy Flying! -- Adrian VE6AFY Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Canopy (bubble) Fabrication From: SClay10106@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:39:14 EDT X-Message-Number: 13 J C whittney is that the same catalog from back in the days that sold a little of everything do you have a # or sddress 4 them? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Homemade strobes and such From: Mike Mims Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:33:31 -0700 X-Message-Number: 14 "R.W. Moore" wrote: > > J. C. Whitney has a strobe light about $29.95 All this talk about home made strobes and things reminds me of what two of my hanger mates once told me. If your gonna install nav and strobe lights you may as well use the legal kind otherwise they will not be approved when your aircraft is inspected. This may differ from area to area but the guys who inspect them at Chino want to see real airplane strobes and nav lights. This way they (the inspector) know they produce the proper intensity. If you install a homemade system its just extra weight because its not gonna get you legal for night flight. Maybe Jeff Scott can shed a little light (ha ha) on this since it was only a year ago or so when he had his inspection? -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Ailerons almost done! http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo CA Give Blood, Play Hockey! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Salutations From: "Dean Collette" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:48:28 -0500 X-Message-Number: 15 Netters, I think I have had my fill of KRNet. Not because of the Western Aircraft thing, rather it's the "Typical Doctor" thing. During my time here on KRNet, I have tried very hard to convey useful information. Things that I have discovered or figured out when building my airplane. And, when necessary I have tried to correct a few things. My post regarding Western is an example of just that. At the time that I wrote it, I tried to relate facts, not flames. I wanted to convey information that I would have wanted to know. And, when I found that I was wrong - I corrected it. But then we get JEAN's useful information - "Typical Doctor." What are you trying to improve, help, or change with this? About a month ago Jean helped all of us out with "Nicely said Robert. But what other kind of response would you expect from a Dr. that couldn't have a Bonanza ;-)." Let me assure you - I'm not typical. During the design and construction of my airplane I have worked very hard to make it better. And, as I find things - I try to pass them on (elevator hinges, for example.) Trailing Edge was formed because as we find companies that can make better products for less money, we try to offer the same parts and savings to all of you. Trailing Edge Technologies will continue to offer high quality parts, and I will continue to help anybody that I can (via personal email) but I'm done with KRNet. There are just some things I can do without. Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Western Aircraft Supply From: "Tom Cummings" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:42:51 -0500 X-Message-Number: 16 Hello Larry, I have noticed two messages now concerning Mr. Wynne of the Corvair Authority not sending you your conversion plans for the Corvair. He spells his name Wynne, not Winn. My dealings and results with Mr. Wynne were just the opposite as yours. When he recieved my order for his plans, he called me long distance and discussed at length the use of the Corvair engine. A long conversation. Helpful info. He mailed my plans right away. I had paid by check but had made it out to the incorrect name. I put Corvair Authority on it instead of William Wynne. But he sent me the plans anyway requesting a new check. So I sent him another check - yes I got the old one back! And everything was fine. Then I went Corvair hunting! I have talked to him several times since then and I tried to attend SunNFun where he gave seminars on the Corvair. (Invited by Contact Magazine by the way). But I could not attend. So I have made other arrangements to visit his facility instead. He has gone to considerable effort to find me a Corvair engine there and prepare some parts that I can't have machined here where I live. Corvair engines were not available in my area.(after a 6 month search). So I was surprised to hear of Mr. Wynne not filling your order - very surprised. It is like hearing about a completely different person than the one I dealt with. If I know Mr. Wynne, I'd bet he has tried to contact you already and contact was missed. Perhaps he is not getting your messages. Maybe he didnot recieve your order. He does have to travel a lot - like many of us do. And he was very busy during the month of March and April getting ready for Sun N Fun. His Corvair plans are real good. I am glad I have them. Tom Cummings ---------- > From: EveninBrz@aol.com > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Re: Western Aircraft Supply > Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 4:58 PM > > In a message dated 4/27/1999 10:35:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > drdean@execpc.com writes: > > << I paid more money for poorer quality spruce and had to wait longer then > what > I wanted. From here on out - all my spruce comes from Wicks. I don't care > how long it takes. >> > There is nothing like the feeling you get from prompt service and getting > what you pay for is there? Very satisfying. > I ordered the Corvair Conversion plans from Winn on March 8th. Not only > have I not received them but have gotton no reply from him after calling 5 > times. It does not seem unreasonable to me to expect prompt service, the > sellor expects prompt payment. > Larry Shull > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: tomlc@communique.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Tell Me How From: Kimball Anderson Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:50:45 -0400 X-Message-Number: 17 Point your browser at http://www.evansville.net/~boeing/project_viking/temp/faqcowl.htm This is an article by Austin Clark detailing how he's building his cowl. We're getting the article ready for inclusion in the Manual/FAQ, and it's not quite finished, but it'll give you a darn good start on building your cowling. Kimball Anderson isleno@hargray.com -----Original Message----- From: SClay10106@aol.com To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:38 PM Subject: [kr-net] Tell Me How >I am in the process of purchasing a kr-1 i need to know how to make the front >engine cowling or is there a place to buy it already complete. i have been >told to make the shape with foam the cover it with glass and when dry cut the >foam away from the glass is this the best and only way. I thank you all 4 all >the help i have recieved here. > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: isleno@hargray.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Canopy (bubble) Fabrication From: "Tom Cummings" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:52:03 -0500 X-Message-Number: 18 J.C. Whitney has a website at and a partial online catalog there. They send their catalogs for free. They have a lot of tools, patrs,etc.,also. Tom Cummings ---------- > From: SClay10106@aol.com > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Re: Canopy (bubble) Fabrication > Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:39 PM > > J C whittney is that the same catalog from back in the days that sold a > little of everything do you have a # or sddress 4 them? > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: tomlc@communique.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Tell Me How From: SClay10106@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:58:34 EDT X-Message-Number: 19 In a message dated 4/27/99 8:56:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, isleno@hargray.com writes: << http://www.evansville.net/~boeing/project_viking/temp/faqcowl.htm >> THANK YOUI ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Copper foil for antennas From: "R.W. Moore" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:02:59 -0400 X-Message-Number: 20 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE910A.79DED620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need to buy about 3-4 foot of the copper foil used to make imbeded = antennas for Kr Airplanes.=20 Can any one helpe me.=20 R. W. Moore=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE910A.79DED620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I need to buy about 3-4 foot of the = copper foil=20 used to make imbeded antennas for  Kr Airplanes.
Can any one helpe me.
R. W. Moore
 
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE910A.79DED620-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Homemade strobes and such From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:05:59 -0700 X-Message-Number: 21 On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:33:31 -0700 Mike Mims writes: >All this talk about home made strobes and things reminds me of what two >of my hanger mates once told me. If your gonna install nav and strobe >lights you may as well use the legal kind otherwise they will not be >approved when your aircraft is inspected. This may differ from area to >area but the guys who inspect them at Chino want to see real airplane >strobes and nav lights. This way they (the inspector) know they produce >the proper intensity. If you install a homemade system its just extra >weight because its not gonna get you legal for night flight. Maybe Jeff >Scott can shed a little light (ha ha) on this since it was only a year >ago or so when he had his inspection? > >-- >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >Micheal Mims >Ailerons almost done! >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >Aliso Viejo CA >Give Blood, Play Hockey! >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The funny thing about putting strobes on a plane is that they are supposed to be there to visually attract attention.....hopefully at some distance. Most of these Radio Shack strobes and such have about 10% of the brightness of the legal ones. They are serving one purpose and that is to slip you through an inspection so you can fly at night with insufficient lighting. Just my opinion, but if you're going to put strobes on a plane, spend the money and buy something that serves the purpose. As for the actual inspection, it is up to the inspector's descretion. I know of a GlasAir that recently received an airworthyness inspection with the Radio Shack type strobes and didn't receive any restrictions for night flying. I don't know if that is because the inspector never noticed or because he approved. The same inspector saw the lights and strobes mounted on my plane and approved it for night flying without ever asking me to turn them on. A call to the local FSDO would probably get you the answer for your area, but of course that answer is only good for that area as they all interpret the regs differently. Mine are Whelen Aircraft strobes that alternate tips flashing. Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213w construction and first flight at http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: "Typical" doctors From: Kimball Anderson Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:47:46 -0400 X-Message-Number: 22 In my line of work, I see quite a number of "typical" doctors. "Typical" doctors bust their butts 10-12 hours a day seeing patients, and then end up getting summoned to the hospital to take care of the little old lady that crashed her car into a curb and cracked her pelvis. "Typical" doctors give up prestigious positions as directors of pathology and move to small towns to practice because they feel there's a need. "Typical" doctors, after retirement, get together and form health clinics for the less fortunate, donating their time and expertise rather than spending the day on the golf course with the other retirees. "Typical" doctors, after medical school, return to the rural office or clinic where their father has practiced to carry on the family tradition of serving the community, rather than accepting positions in the proverbial Big City. "Typical" doctors travel to third-world nations, without compensation, to provide services to people who would otherwise have no chance of receiving even basic medical care. These are just a few of the "typical" doctors I've come across. Dean Collette, in spite of being a "typical" doctor, has bent over backwards to try to help out here on KRNet, providing useful information and advice out where he could. His recent "elevator hinge" post is a good example. In my case, he's taken time out to contribute an article or two to the Online Manual/FAQ, while many others on the list -- some of whom I've been quite surprised at -- have turned a cold shoulder, not even bothering to respond to email. Has he gotten upset and sent out a few flames in the past? We all know he has. But usually after being stung by something similar to the "typical doctor" barb that was thrown out. Yes, those "typical" doctors are just like the rest of us -- they bite back when bitten. Someone mentioned a short while ago that KRNet has grown to include several hundred people, and that we all ought to begin thinking in terms of addressing an auditorium full of people before speaking (or posting). Good advice, I say. And remember, too, that hecklers in an auditorium do little more than disturb those who are trying to get something done or gather useful information. How about let's all see if we can keep the fiery darts down to a minimum before we do any further damage. Okay, I'll get off the soapbox now. Good night. Kimball Anderson isleno@hargray.com --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com