From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 12:19 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: April 28, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Wednesday, April 28, 1999. 1. New KR-net 2. Re: Homemade strobes and such 3. Re: Corvairs 4. Re: NEW TELEPHONE SCAM!! 5. Apologies 6. Re: Homemade strobes and such 7. Re: Homemade strobes and such 8. Re: Copper foil for antennas 9. Re: Copper foil for antennas 10. Re: New engine: Simon Floyd rotary 11. Re: Copper foil for antennas 12. Re: Homemade strobes and such 13. Progress Report 14. Re: searching 15. Re: Homemade strobes and such 16. Determin C.G. 17. Re: Homemade strobes and such 18. Re: Determin C.G. 19. Re: Determin C.G. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: New KR-net From: "Richard Parker" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:43:34 PDT X-Message-Number: 1 This is a perfect reason to start another "by invitation only" KR- net. I think we could call it the "KR-Gripe" list. We could have all the unnecessary comments like the one below posted to that list then the rest of us who are interested in building airplanes could stay on the KR-net. Rich Parker richontheroad@hotmail.com http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm Jaffrey, NH It's easy to make a small fortune in aviation. You start with a large fortune. >From: "JEAN" >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" >To: "KR-net users group" >Subject: [kr-net] Re: Western Aircraft Supply >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:35:39 -0500 >Typical Doctor. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Homemade strobes and such From: "Richard Parker" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:52:11 PDT X-Message-Number: 2 Can someone remind me what the requirements are? visibility, radius etc. I was looking for it through my Far/Aim last night but cant recall where they are listed. Rich Parker >From: Mike Mims >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" >To: "KR-net users group" >Subject: [kr-net] Homemade strobes and such >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:33:31 -0700 > >"R.W. Moore" wrote: >> >> J. C. Whitney has a strobe light about $29.95 > >All this talk about home made strobes and things reminds me of what two >of my hanger mates once told me. If your gonna install nav and strobe >lights you may as well use the legal kind otherwise they will not be >approved when your aircraft is inspected. This may differ from area to >area but the guys who inspect them at Chino want to see real airplane >strobes and nav lights. This way they (the inspector) know they produce >the proper intensity. If you install a homemade system its just extra >weight because its not gonna get you legal for night flight. Maybe Jeff >Scott can shed a little light (ha ha) on this since it was only a year >ago or so when he had his inspection? > >-- >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >Micheal Mims >Ailerons almost done! >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >Aliso Viejo CA >Give Blood, Play Hockey! >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: richontheroad@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net- 17615H@telelists.com > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Corvairs From: "Richard Parker" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:59:17 PDT X-Message-Number: 3 I remember a couple of quanset huts in western Massachusetts that I was told was one of the largest distributors of corvair parts in the world. I believe the town was Erving. this might give some of you carviar fans a starting place to look for parts. Maybe one of the lurkers on the list knows about it? I'll do a little more research (fly over there) and see what I can find out. Rich Parker richontheroad@hotmail.com http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm Jaffrey, NH It's easy to make a small fortune in aviation. You start with a large fortune. >From: "Tom Cummings" >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" >To: "KR-net users group" >Subject: [kr-net] >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:42:51 -0500 > >Hello Larry, > I have noticed two messages now concerning Mr. Wynne of the Corvair >Authority not sending you your conversion plans for the Corvair. He spells >his name Wynne, not Winn. > My dealings and results with Mr. Wynne were just the opposite as yours. >When he recieved my order for his plans, he called me long distance and >discussed at length the use of the Corvair engine. A long conversation. >Helpful info. > He mailed my plans right away. I had paid by check but had made it out >to the incorrect name. I put Corvair Authority on it instead of William >Wynne. But he sent me the plans anyway requesting a new check. So I sent >him another check - yes I got the old one back! And everything was fine. >Then I went Corvair hunting! > I have talked to him several times since then and I tried to attend >SunNFun where he gave seminars on the Corvair. (Invited by Contact Magazine >by the way). But I could not attend. So I have made other arrangements to >visit his facility instead. He has gone to considerable effort to find me a >Corvair engine there and prepare some parts that I can't have machined here >where I live. Corvair engines were not available in my area.(after a 6 >month search). > So I was surprised to hear of Mr. Wynne not filling your order - very >surprised. It is like hearing about a completely different person than the >one I dealt with. > If I know Mr. Wynne, I'd bet he has tried to contact you already and >contact was missed. Perhaps he is not getting your messages. Maybe he >didnot recieve your order. > He does have to travel a lot - like many of us do. And he was very busy >during the month of March and April getting ready for Sun N Fun. > His Corvair plans are real good. I am glad I have them. >Tom Cummings _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: NEW TELEPHONE SCAM!! From: "Rogerio Werneck" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 04:40:05 PDT X-Message-Number: 4 Dear Mr Eason and everyon in the list I know that this kind of message sounds very real but I need to explain that this kind of "send to everyone you know" message should not be send to anyone ! and i dont mean it should not be send to a mailing list, I mean to NOBODY. I have seen some number about e-mail in the internet I i became very impressed that 96% them is somewhat junk, specialy the "send to everyone" kind. I invite everyone in this list to help to reduce this number by simply not "sending to everyone" anything. by doing this you'll be helping to increase the overall speed of the net. It happens tha i work in a phone company as system analist and there is no way for a call to be billed in another phone unless you go in persson to the your phone company and request so. (at least here) []'s and nice landings Rogerio Werneck P.S. This "phone trick" e-mail was around here in Brazil some months ago and it makes very sad to see its been makin a world wide tour. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Apologies From: Kimball Anderson Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:54:11 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5 Hi, everybody. Let me apologize for my little tirade on KRNet last night. I should learn not to shoot off messages when I'm annoyed. I was getting a little frustrated with the body count in the last week or so. First one of our article contributors signed off the list over the "elitist" issue, followed closely by another KRNet member who has contributed a great deal to the KR effort in the past, and now Dean Collette. And I haven't heard from one of our rather vociferous editors for several days, which gives me cause to think he may be miffed, as well. These are all good guys with good ideas, and I hate to see them go. As far as the emails regarding FAQ articles, I understand that everybody has a lot to do, and I don't mind when people decline to write articles. It take a good deal of effort to write one of these things, and a lot of folks simply don't have the time. It _is_ nice to get a response saying "sorry, but I just can't do it right now," though, if that's the case. When I don't hear anything, I'm not sure whether the email never got through (a rare event these days, but it does happen) or whether I'm simply being ignored. So please let me know. If I've offended anyone, please accept my apologies. And I guess I'll leave it at that. Thanks for listening. Kimball Anderson isleno@hargray.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Homemade strobes and such From: Jim Patterson Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:04:21 -0400 X-Message-Number: 6 Richard Parker wrote: > > Can someone remind me what the requirements are? visibility, radius > etc. I was looking for it through my Far/Aim last night but cant > recall where they are listed. > > Rich Parker > > >From: Mike Mims > >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" > >To: "KR-net users group" > >Subject: [kr-net] Homemade strobes and such > >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:33:31 -0700 > > > >"R.W. Moore" wrote: > >> > >> J. C. Whitney has a strobe light about $29.95 > > > >All this talk about home made strobes and things reminds me of what > two > >of my hanger mates once told me. If your gonna install nav and strobe > >lights you may as well use the legal kind otherwise they will not be > >approved when your aircraft is inspected. This may differ from area > to > >area but the guys who inspect them at Chino want to see real airplane > >strobes and nav lights. This way they (the inspector) know they > produce > >the proper intensity. If you install a homemade system its just > extra > >weight because its not gonna get you legal for night flight. Maybe > Jeff > >Scott can shed a little light (ha ha) on this since it was only a > year > >ago or so when he had his inspection? > > > >-- > >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > >Micheal Mims > >Ailerons almost done! > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > >Aliso Viejo CA > >Give Blood, Play Hockey! > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: richontheroad@hotmail.com > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net- > 17615H@telelists.com > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: jamespatt1@home.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ACS has the info in their catalog ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Homemade strobes and such From: HAshraf@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:05:35 EDT X-Message-Number: 7 Both Wicks and Aircraft Spruce catalogs have a page explaining all the details. Good Luck. Good luck Haris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Copper foil for antennas From: NFCKR3@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:07:04 EDT X-Message-Number: 8 I don't know if it will work or not, but stain glass builders use a self-adhesive backed copper tape on stained glass. It comes in several widths and a roll will be much more than you will need. Skip Carden 250KB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Copper foil for antennas From: "R.W. Moore" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:18:31 -0400 X-Message-Number: 9 Thank you, thank you, thank you !! I called the Toccoa Glass company to see if they new anyone that make stained glass, low and behold the lady at the company makes stained glass. Your name has been on my mind for some time. I once knew a person (Skip Carden) that was the newsletter editor for the COUPE CAPERS for the ERCOUPE club. Are you that person? I meet you on a lot of Ercoupe fly-ins. Thanks again, R. W. Moore -----Original Message----- From: NFCKR3@aol.com To: KR-net users group Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:22 AM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Copper foil for antennas >I don't know if it will work or not, but stain glass builders use a >self-adhesive backed copper tape on stained glass. It comes in several widths >and a roll will be much more than you will need. >Skip Carden >250KB > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rwmoore@alltel.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: New engine: Simon Floyd rotary From: Doug Fortune Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:56:39 -0600 X-Message-Number: 10 For those of you who are interested in new engines, I came across this engine in a CAD magazine: http://www.ironcad.com/simon_floyd/case_study/startengine.htm Simon Floyd's engine featured by a CAD software company: http://www.ironcad.com/ and his home site appears to be: http://www.floyddesign.com.au simon@floyddesign.com.au BTW, I am collecting material for a book on oddball engines, so if anyone knows about any, please email or write to me at: Doug Fortune fortuned@cuug.ab.ca 3732 Underhill Drive NW Calgary Alberta Canada T2N 4G1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Copper foil for antennas From: "Saunders" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:43:33 -0400 X-Message-Number: 11 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01BE9196.4161C140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wicks Aircraft catalog pg. 234, part # CFT-500. 1998 edition -----Original Message----- From: R.W. Moore To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 11:59 PM Subject: [kr-net] Copper foil for antennas =20 =20 I need to buy about 3-4 foot of the copper foil used to make imbeded = antennas for Kr Airplanes.=20 Can any one helpe me.=20 R. W. Moore=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01BE9196.4161C140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wicks Aircraft catalog pg. 234, part = #=20 CFT-500.  1998 edition
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Subject: [kr-net] = Copper foil=20 for antennas

I need to buy about 3-4 foot of = the copper=20 foil used to make imbeded antennas for  Kr Airplanes. =
Can any one helpe me. =
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------=_NextPart_000_0037_01BE9196.4161C140-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Homemade strobes and such From: "Saunders" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:53:11 -0400 X-Message-Number: 12 The Aircraft Spruce catalog has a thumbnail report on current requirements on page 338. In the 97-98 edition. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Parker To: KR-net users group Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 5:47 AM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Homemade strobes and such >Can someone remind me what the requirements are? visibility, radius >etc. I was looking for it through my Far/Aim last night but cant >recall where they are listed. > > >>>> >>" >> >>>>>> >>-- >>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >>Micheal Mims >>Ailerons almost done! >>http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >>Aliso Viejo CA >>Give Blood, Play Hockey! >>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >>--- >>You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: richontheroad@hotmail.com >>To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net- >17615H@telelists.com >> > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: saunders@hereintown.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Progress Report From: "Austin and Connie Clark" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:44:57 -0500 X-Message-Number: 13 Netters, I finally got some things done on my KR and updated some photos on my web page. I am working on the front deck and have some photos of it's construction using the plaster mold technique. If interested, take a look at my "Decks" link from my web page at www.datasync.com/~itac/ Austin Clark KR2S Pascagoula Mississippi www.datasync.com/~itac/ itac@datasync.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: searching From: tom Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:38:27 -0400 X-Message-Number: 14 tryker9649@aol.com wrote: > > Does anybody know how to contact Tom Crawford. I was really impressed with > his plane at sun-n-fun., > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: tomc@afn.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com Try toys@atlantic.net Tom Crawford toys@atlantic.net NOTE NEW ADDRESS Gainesville,FL N262TC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Homemade strobes and such From: FLYKR2S@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:58:40 EDT X-Message-Number: 15 If you look in Aircraft Spruce & Specialty 98-99 catalog on page 362 you will find the requirements alond with good diagrams. I agree go with approved lights, not homemade. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Determin C.G. From: SClay10106@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:47:05 EDT X-Message-Number: 16 i am 6ft 2in 190 lbs and have plans on flying a kr1 i am told i may need to set the engine forward a few inches to place my center of gravity forward due to my weight . someone with a little more knlowledge how do i determing where the CG is and what is farther forward always better ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Homemade strobes and such From: RFG842@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:57:03 EDT X-Message-Number: 17 For those who worry about the little foreign devils who make the parts for the homemade strobes, who do you think makes the FAA approved ones!!! After 25 years at Cessna, finally found out that some of the alternators were the same used on your favorite Fords. Only difference was the FAA tag and the price tag. Even my parish priest can't bless my Volks engine or the Subs into FAA approved parts. But, it's still good advice to go with the approved parts whenever possible to keep the pucker element down. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Determin C.G. From: Mike Mims Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:15:20 -0700 X-Message-Number: 18 SClay10106@aol.com wrote: > > someone with a little more knlowledge how do i determing where > the CG is and what is farther forward always better>>> Boy this is something that the plans cover pretty well. Did you miss it? I personally don't think your weight is a factor but once you have the airframe built (minus engine) you can weigh it to determine where the CG falls (with your weight in the seat). Then mount the engine far enough forward to keep you in the forward half of the CG range. As far as CG goes it always better to be a little forward than a little aft. Aft CGs cause all kinds of nasty tricks, mostly pitch instability and not being able to recover from a stall or spin. Your dealing with a single seater so I see no reason why you couldn't ALWAYS be at the "just right" CG. As far as weighing the plane to determine where the CG is, read the plans again, its covered pretty well and is very simple. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Ailerons almost done! http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo CA Give Blood, Play Hockey! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Determin C.G. From: SClay10106@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:25:53 EDT X-Message-Number: 19 Thanks 4 the input only reason for me not knowing is i bought a 70% completed plane first and i am getting the plans this weekend so i have not seen the plans i am just making ure this is not some major ordeal --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com