From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 12:10 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: June 12, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Saturday, June 12, 1999. 1. Pics 2. Re: 51% rule 3. Re: 51% rule 4. Engine Info Wanted ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Pics From: "fly" Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:48:46 +1200 X-Message-Number: 1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEB514.F79A23C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable See new pics at =20 http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~fly David J Stuart, Wellington New Zealand. Email: fly@paradise.net.nz Pictures: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~fly ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEB514.F79A23C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEB514.F79A23C0-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 51% rule From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 07:15:28 EDT X-Message-Number: 2 In a message dated 6/11/99 9:33:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sglover@ix.netcom.com writes: << In AC 20-27D, Par.15, section 16 it states that The builder must be the "primary builder" but doesn't specify the percentage that must be built. The second part of it is, "can satisfactorily prove requisite skill in determining whether the aircraft is in condition for safe operation". I have been told be a person at the local FSDO that as long as a person can demonstrate acceptable knowledge of the particular aircraft, they should be able to get the Repairman's Certificate. >> Guys, I hate to keep kicking a dead horse here but in the FARs there is an "and" between the primary builder statement and the demonstrate statement. You fill the paperwork out and send it in. The FAA does not come to your hangar to have you demonstrate the ability to perform inspections for safe operation. This demonstration of acceptable knowledge is shown by the primary builder's ability to construct and be issued a airworthyness certificate. You can't be issue a repairman's certificate without the airworthyness certificate. In addition, you are not issued the certificate until your test time has been successfully flown off. That primary builder's repairman certificate only applies to that aircraft and is issued only once. You must be the primary builder. I've kicked that horse enough, where's the next stance to take and staunchly defend:-) Time to fly those Young Eagles today. Sure hope I don't have smoke in the cockpit like last year. "Does it always smoke like that?" "No big deal kid, just keep looking for your house............................where is that #$#$% airport........master switch to the off position.........glad I bought a handheld.......straight in approach". Dana Overall 1999 KR Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 51% rule From: Tobin Dunham Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 05:19:37 PDT X-Message-Number: 3 Dana Overall wrote: >Guys, I hate to keep kicking a dead horse here but in the FARs there is an >"and" between the primary builder statement and the demonstrate statement.> Ok, I'll kick the horse a few times more... The FAA doesn't care how many people build the plane, or who has done the most work in order to issue the airworthiness certificate. You could have 50 people build it, with 2% done by each person, and 12 different people do the test flights. It'll still get an airworthiness certificate. BUT - after that, you gotta have someone to sign off on maintenance work, and do the regular inspections, etc. If you can find an A&P willing to do it, fine. But if you want to have this authority, you must have done 51% of the actual building (or at least convince the FAA that you did). Since there's no way anyone can define each step of the building process by percentages, the FAA just has to take your word for it that you did 51% of the work. This is done by showing that you have a thorough knowledge of the plane's contruction and its operating systems. Once you convince them of that, you are eligible for "primary builder" status, and the repairman's certificate. Incidentally, this should all be based on documentation in your builder's log through the course of your project. Once flight testing is complete and the airworthiness certificate is issued, you can have the repairman's certificate. At least, that's how I understand it.... Toby Dunham Houston, TX _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Engine Info Wanted From: "Bruce Knorr" Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:55:43 -0700 X-Message-Number: 4 The only dumb question is one that is not asked!!!! So here is my not dumb question. I have almost zero knowledge of the mechanics of the beast but in reading about auto to aircraft conversions I see some that are direct drive and some with various kinds of speed reduction units. Can anyone recommend an info source to get me up to speed on the hows and whys of this subject? --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com