From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:33 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: July 12, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Monday, July 12, 1999. 1. Re: antenna electrical question 2. Re: ugly Sonex canopy 3. Re: ugly Sonex canopy 4. Re: 1999 KR Gathering 5. Re: ugly Sonex canopy 6. How not to get out of your plane 7. Re: ugly Sonex canopy 8. Re: antenna electrical question 9. Re: D-Fly Canopy - Colors 10. Re: antenna electrical question 11. N541RY Progress report 12. Little bit of KR2 info I stumbled upon. 13. Re: antenna electrical question 14. Fillers and Primers 15. Pannel PlannerCD 16. RE: Alaska 17. Re: Fillers and Primers 18. Re: How not to get out of your plane 19. kr3 info and progress report 20. Cockpit Fires 21. Re: ugly Sonex; polyethylene gas tanks 22. Arlington Fly-in ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: antenna electrical question From: "Richard Parker" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 02:58:39 PDT X-Message-Number: 1 I would think the radiator and the reflector should be isolated (insulated) from each other. Rich Parker >From: "Mark Langford" >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" >To: "KR-net users group" >Subject: [kr-net] antenna electrical question >Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 16:03:43 -0500 > >AntennaHeads, > >I just built a "Weir Special" base station antenna from plans that were >detailed in the July 88 Kitplanes article "Make Your Own Base Station >Antenna". I figured I'd put my new Terra TX-750D to work for a little >while >to make sure I won't need to use the warranty before my plane ever flies. >And besides, I wouldn't mind the motivation of listening to all these folks >in the pattern at Moontown airport. Anyway, this antenna is basically 1/2" >copper tubing in the shape of a "J" about 70" tall, with the braided part >of >the coax fastened to the bottom of the tall element(radiator), and the >center conductor fastened to the bottom of the short element (reflector). >That's a direct short, in my book, and not surprisingly my ohmeter reads .9 >Ohms at the other end of the coax (50' away in my basement). Should I be >worried about frying my new radio with this setup? The reason I ask is >because my AmeriKing ELT has a little whip antenna that shows about 500 >Ohms >between it's terminals. I haven't powered it up yet, but I'd love to hear >any comments that you "sparky" boys have to make. What kind of resistance >should I be seeing? I know impedence is different from resistance, but I'm >still concerned enough to ask before I leap. > >I'll detail this antenna construction later, but right now my digital >camera's on vacation in Alaska for the week... > >Thanks in advance, > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama >mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: richontheroad@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: ugly Sonex canopy From: "Richard Parker" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 05:36:38 PDT X-Message-Number: 2 >I think one reason people think the Sonex is an ugly plane is >because the >canopies on the prototypes are dark BROWN -- hideous >things No actually the whole plane is ugly. I never even noticed the brown canopy. (sorry I couldnt resist) RP _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: ugly Sonex canopy From: DClarke351@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:21:18 EDT X-Message-Number: 3 I think the Sonex is a neat airplane. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 1999 KR Gathering From: tom Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:38:37 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4 Martin wrote: > > > > --> I suppose it's been mentioned, but musta missed it - where is the airport at > --> Lake Barkley? > > Hi Ed.. > > I've been lurking on here for a bit... > And finally something I know about...LOL > > Follow this link for airport and facility information. > > http://www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/airport-info?1M9 > > Hope this helps.... > > Martin. > > By the way- I just made my reservations this AM and they said they only have 10 rooms left for us. Better hurry! Tom Crawford toys@atlantic.net Gainesville, FL N262TC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: ugly Sonex canopy From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:31:12 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5 I'm with you, Richard. The whole Sonex design, from the canopy foreward, looks kinda strange to me, compared with the KR. Ed Janssen >No actually the whole plane is ugly. I never even noticed the brown canopy. >RP ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: How not to get out of your plane From: "Tobin Dunham" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:21:15 PDT X-Message-Number: 6 Here's an interesting tidbit that was passed on to me. Fellas, please don't do this... PILOT JUMPS WITHOUT CHUTE: A pilot trying to escape a burning Vans RV-8 jumped Saturday near Lafayette, Ore., without a parachute. Eyewitnesses say the plane was in flames at about 200 to 300 ft/agl when 41-year-old Von Lyn Alexander jumped. Alexander, of Salem, Ore., was killed. The RV-8 crashed into a field and burned. Alexander had completed the homebuilt in December 1998. One more reason to wear a parachute while flight testing! Toby Dunham Houston, TX _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: ugly Sonex canopy From: cobrajad jad Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:55:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 7 there was a lot of interest in the new sport pilot license expressed a few weeks ago. this past weekend at an ultralight fly in in Greenland NH. a representative of the FAA, the presidents of the USUA and ASC and the ultralight rep from EAA spoke. the bottom line seems to be that the license...in SOME form will probably be implemented....all expressed that jane garvey, head of FAA and others at FAA were "on board" with the issue now. that's the good news....the bad news is....don't hold your breath....even if all goes well and is pushed through quickly....well....keep building because it probably is a year away ....minimum.... hell...i guess that IS fast for the FAA... anyway...for you guys waiting with baited breath...grab a beer and keep sanding.... jim dixon --- Ed Janssen wrote: > I'm with you, Richard. The whole Sonex design, > from the canopy foreward, > looks kinda strange to me, compared with the KR. > > Ed Janssen > > > >No actually the whole plane is ugly. I never even > noticed the brown canopy. > > >RP > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: > cobrajad@yahoo.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: antenna electrical question From: Ross Youngblood Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:17:34 -0700 X-Message-Number: 8 Mark, You might email Jim directly and ask him. I'd be worried about frying my $1700 radio with this. I'm thinking that the radio wants to see a 50 ohm load. I checked my RST antenna that I made for inside my airplane, and made sure that the shield and internal conductors were NOT shorted. I'm thinking that for your J tube setup there may have been somthing that insulates the small part of the J from the large part of the "J". Having said this, I also need to say I know nothing about typical radio antenna loading. I do know that there is a big difference between a DC load and an AC (or RF) load and the impedence seen by the radio. You might check the Terra manual, to see if they have any specs on the DC loading. (I have the same manual, and can check later today when I visit the hangar). -- Regards Ross Mark Langford wrote: > > AntennaHeads, > > I just built a "Weir Special" base station antenna from plans that were > detailed in the July 88 Kitplanes article "Make Your Own Base Station > Antenna". I figured I'd put my new Terra TX-750D to work for a little while > to make sure I won't need to use the warranty before my plane ever flies. > And besides, I wouldn't mind the motivation of listening to all these folks > in the pattern at Moontown airport. Anyway, this antenna is basically 1/2" > copper tubing in the shape of a "J" about 70" tall, with the braided part of > the coax fastened to the bottom of the tall element(radiator), and the > center conductor fastened to the bottom of the short element (reflector). > That's a direct short, in my book, and not surprisingly my ohmeter reads .9 > Ohms at the other end of the coax (50' away in my basement). Should I be > worried about frying my new radio with this setup? The reason I ask is > because my AmeriKing ELT has a little whip antenna that shows about 500 Ohms > between it's terminals. I haven't powered it up yet, but I'd love to hear > any comments that you "sparky" boys have to make. What kind of resistance > should I be seeing? I know impedence is different from resistance, but I'm > still concerned enough to ask before I leap. > > I'll detail this antenna construction later, but right now my digital > camera's on vacation in Alaska for the week... > > Thanks in advance, > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: D-Fly Canopy - Colors From: Ross Youngblood Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:21:02 -0700 X-Message-Number: 9 Mike, I used to live in Phoenix, and am planning on moving back. I can say tinting (however small) makes a difference. In 107 degree heat, you will drive your car around the parking lot looking for a 3" wide piece of shade made by a small freshly planted tree. Can you say "Greenhouse". -- Regards Ross Michael Taglieri wrote: > > I think one reason people think the Sonex is an ugly plane is because the > canopies on the prototypes are dark BROWN -- hideous things. Since the > tinted canopies must affect night vision to some extent, what's the > reason for having them? Is it cooler in the cockpit with a tinted one? > I always wear sunglasses when flying anyway. > > Mike Taglieri > > >>The Tinting choices are: > >>Clear > >>Light Gray (smoke) > >>Dark Gray (smoke) > >>Green <-nobody ever orders this one. > > ^^^^^^ > > > >Uh, Mine is green. Don Betchem's (now Skip Cardon's) is green. JEB's > >is Green. > > > >It is a very light green tint. The Light Gray and Green are both > >light enough to meet the FAA specs for night flight, but both also > >have significant UV protection as well. Having said that, it's darned > >hot under that "green" canopy during the summer. :o) I can also tell > >you from experience that the night visibility through the "green" > >canopy is very good. > > > >There are some close-up pictures of my "green" canopy on the web page > >listed in my signature line if you want to compare for yourselves. > > > >Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM > >mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com > >See N1213w construction and first flight at > >http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm > >___________________________________________________________________ > >Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, > >and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: > >http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed > >to kr-net as: miket_nyc@juno.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: antenna electrical question From: Ross Youngblood Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:22:34 -0700 X-Message-Number: 10 Mark Langford wrote: > I'll probably never transmit on > the thing anyway, just listen. If it recieves good, it should transmit good as well. The only concern would be blowing the transmit side of your radio if there is a short in the antenna. -- Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: N541RY Progress report From: Ross Youngblood Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:52:44 -0700 X-Message-Number: 11 I have made some progress on the KR this last week or so. Here are some tidbits of information. 1) Matco Brakes. I had charged the brakes previously (a year ago), but the right brake had leaked and had air in the line, I was determined to purge them before starting the engine again. This was a chore! The right brake cylinder was not venting, I was filling from the wheel end, and using a hand pump to force fluid up into the brake cylinder and only succeeded in compressing air. I had to disassemble the pedal, and this released the pressure. Some Old time KR members may remember some problems with the MATCO cylinders not releaseing pressure unless they were "FULLY" extended on brake release. It turns out that I had to cut about 1/4" off the threaded end, to get this cylinder to release when it was connected to the pedals per the KR rudder pedal kit design. (Your mileage may vary depending on where you mounted your cylinder). This was only a problem for the right pedal, the left one was OK. 2) Fuel system. I have a third fuel filter the cockpit side of the firewall, but did a poor job of mounting it, which resulted in stress on the fittings which I believe resulted in a slow leak. I corrected this. 3) Fuel drain valve (right wing). Looked all over for this found it the day AFTER I bought the replacement. 4) Replacement Gascolator gasket (90 cents). Looked all over both shop and hangar for this, found it yesterday. Hint... auto gas causes SHRINKAGE of these rubber goodies. I'm using 100LL from now on, unless it is un-available or too expensive. 5) First fill of wing tanks. Problems here, bummer. Slow leak on both tanks (R is worse) hopefully in area where fuel sender flanges are. I hope this is just loose, or pinched gaskets. Arrgh! Using AVgas helps in this case, as the blue dye leaves a trace. Then with full fuel tanks, I attempted to prime my fuel system. My pumps "suck" fuel through the wing spars and some clear glass filters. They would not prime. This turned out to be due to my installation of quick disconnects for the wing fuel tanks. I used tygon tubing which got crimped. I replaced this with shorter length of auto fuel line, and this seems to fix the problem. I may still have a problem with sucking air from the fuel filters, but when there is fuel in the line (i.e. primed) it works OK. My hanger mate advises against placing fuel under vacuum, as it can lead to vapor lock, so I may move the filter to the other side of the pumps. 6) Ailerons, Flaps, Canopy latch Painted fittings for the canopy latch, R flap, and sanded and primed my ailerons. Still have more glass & filling work on the ailerons (seal the ends). 7) Radio Sat in the airplane and programmed 8 memory presets on my Terra com radio, then called the FBO for gas for the first time. --------- Radio recommendation The FBO has a C-172 with a II Morrow GPS/COMM, I think these go for around $2300 or so, but if you can't get a Terra radio, get one of these. II Morrow also has an X-ponder that is small, and probably lighter than anything else. I played with the GPS/COMM on a X-C flight to Medford last Friday and the Oregon Coast earlier in the week. When I approached Newport (ONP), a message annunciator came on warning me that I was within 10NM of a "WARNING" area (off the coast). The GPS was hooked to a OMNI indicator that worked pretty good, although you don't need the seperate OMNI as the moving map is a "DUH" easy to read display. With the money I save flying my KR in the next couple of years I will probably buy one of these. The reason I'm willing to pay extra for a panel mount, is that I don't want things falling off velcro while I'm flying. -- Regards Ross -- Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Little bit of KR2 info I stumbled upon. From: "Henning Mortensen" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:58:41 PDT X-Message-Number: 12 Came across the following tidbit on http://home.sprynet.com/~enewbold/homepage.htm it contained a page of stats and comments on the KR2 by Cary Honeywell http://home.sprynet.com/~enewbold/miscinfo.htm since I hadn't seen this before I assume it is not known to the general group so I thought I should point it out. If Cary is out there, thanks for writing this and I hope you don't mind that I make everyone aware. Henning Mortensen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: antenna electrical question From: cartera Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:33:15 -0600 X-Message-Number: 13 Ross Youngblood wrote: > > Mark Langford wrote: > > I'll probably never transmit on > > the thing anyway, just listen. > > If it recieves good, it should transmit good as well. The only > concern would be blowing the transmit side of your radio if there > is a short in the antenna. > > -- Ross > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cartera@cuug.ab.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com Hi Gang, Ross don't you believe it, this is a fallacy, many have a tendency to believe this but it is not true, you can receive hooked on to a barb wire fence but not transmit. As a matter of fact hooking on to a fence can give you around the world reception. Some compromise antennae have a short to DC but not to RF that is why RF has to be going out for proper tuning. There seems to be much misconception about antennae, just a simple study on antenna theory would clarify all this. Transmission lines on verticals which are mostly the antennae that is used is nav & comm in aviation are 50 ohm impedance (RG58U) and dipoles are mostly 72 ohm impedance (RG59U). Don't get carried away, it's very simple, "KISS" Aviation antennae are usually the proper length and should not be of any concern, there is a short, simple formula for proper length which should not be introduced here and add to further confusion. KISS, KISS, KISS!! -- Adrian VE6AFY Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Fillers and Primers From: "Dean Collette" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:59:53 -0500 X-Message-Number: 14 Fillerheads, After many hours, and many, many batches of fillers, if I can give you one recommendation, it's Aeropoxy Light. I talked with the guys at PTM&W and they told me that they have changed the formula for this filler. The new stuff applies unbelievably well - smooth as silk, with few or no air bubbles in it. About two passes with the spreader and you are done. It sticks to everything, and when cured, it sands better then anything else I have used. At 75 degrees, you will be sanding it in about 4 hours. There is one catch - the pot life. If you make up a large batch, and don't get it applied in short order, the pot will go thermal on you. This, like everything with epoxy, is directly related to ambient temperature. I have used a bunch of Superfil, and I have to say I like the way it sands - not as much as this new Aeropoxy Light, but better then other things I have tried. The problem with Superfil is that it doesn't apply very well. You wind up making many passes over the same area to try to get the stuff to stick. I also talked with the guys at Poly-Fiber today. They have a new product, well, it's a revision of an old product. Smooth Prime now has the UV blocker built right in, so there is no special UV coat that has to be applied. They say you roll 6 coats of this new stuff on, let it dry and sand it - done. This isn't cheap (at about $120 per gallon!!) but no hassle spraying everything in the garage with primer, no sanding between coats, and now, no dark colored UV blocker that shows through the paint job. Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Pannel PlannerCD From: Kip Anderson Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:33:10 -0400 X-Message-Number: 15 Who ever would like the Panel Planner CD to play with, send me a private e-mail ( kipapilot@gnc.net ) with your address and I'll snail-mail it off. Kip Titusville Fl. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Alaska From: "Eduardo Iglesias" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:16:39 -0300 X-Message-Number: 16 Bob and Mark: Be carefull, don't bed with the Polar Bear and dance with the Eskimo girl!!! -----Mensaje original----- De: RFG842@aol.com Para: KR-net users group Fecha: Domingo, 11 de Julio de 1999 10:59 a.m. Asunto: [kr-net] Alaska >Mark > >Don't forget, to be a real Sourdough you're supposed to dance with the Polar >Bear and bed the Eskimo girl, not the other way around. > >Good luck, Bob > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fillers and Primers From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:55:54 -0400 X-Message-Number: 17 Dean: I have first hand info on UV Smooth Prime, I'm currently doing my left wing as we speak. They actually recommend using a roller to apply it, (foam) I have the recommended 6 coats on now. Tomorrow the sanding begins. It can also be sprayed, but needs to be thinned, I can't imagine doing my cowl with a roller!!! Stay tuned. Kenny ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: How not to get out of your plane From: "Larry Jacks" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:02:04 -0600 X-Message-Number: 18 This tragic incident brings to mind books I've read on WWI. No one had parachutes until very late in the war, so pilots had to decide whether they'd jump or ride in a burning plane. Many of them jumped. I can understand that decision. Better to die quickly upon hitting the ground than to slowly burn to death. It's a very good idea to wear a parachute while doing flight testing. Excrement does occur from time to time. An in-flight fire is one scenario where an individual pilot parachute would be preferable to a "whole plane" ballistic chute. If the plane's on fire, I'd rather not stick around for the ride to the ground. If you're going to wear a parachute, you should do some planning well before your first flight. I'd recommend giving some thought beforehand to what circumstances will be sufficient to make you bail out. If things really go to hell, you may only have a few seconds to make the decision. Hesitate too long and you may not have time to get out and get the chute open. You should also practice quickly opening your canopy and releasing your seatbelts. It isn't a bad idea to get some parachute training at a local sky diving club either. They can teach you how to use the chute and how to land without breaking your legs. Or, you can do what I did and join the Army and become a paratrooper. A sky diving club is cheaper. Larry Jacks (ljacks@codenet.net) Colorado Springs, CO Still lurking on KR-Net. My new house with 23x28 foot workshop won't finished for another 2 months. -----Original Message----- From: Tobin Dunham To: KR-net users group Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 10:34 AM Subject: [kr-net] How not to get out of your plane >Here's an interesting tidbit that was passed on to me. Fellas, please don't >do this... > >PILOT JUMPS WITHOUT CHUTE: A pilot trying to escape a burning Vans RV-8 >jumped Saturday near Lafayette, Ore., without a parachute. >Eyewitnesses say the plane was in flames at about 200 to 300 ft/agl >when 41-year-old Von Lyn Alexander jumped. Alexander, of Salem, Ore., >was killed. The RV-8 crashed into a field and burned. Alexander had >completed the homebuilt in December 1998. > >One more reason to wear a parachute while flight testing! > >Toby Dunham >Houston, TX > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: ljacks@codenet.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: kr3 info and progress report From: "dene collett" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:07:50 +0200 X-Message-Number: 19 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BECCBB.5CD27680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi chaps/and ladys if there are any The other day a friend saw a picture of the kr3 sitting on a trailer at = oshkosh . Being a kr builder and flyer for the last five years, he was very = interested in it and asked me to find out if there were ever any plans = released for it. Anybody able to help me out with this one? PROGRESS report Yesterday I removed my turtledeck from the mould and tonight I trimmed = it and made a rough fit on the fuz.....perfect! I actually surprised = myself with the quality of the finish from the mould (sheet of .020 = galvanised sheet metal), it just needs a rubdown with waterpaper and the = usual pinhole procedure and it will be ready for painting.It is also as = stiff as a plank (3/8 foam core). Gotta go now=20 cheers =20 Dene Collett South Africa denec@netactive.co.za ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BECCBB.5CD27680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi chaps/and ladys if there are any
The other day a friend saw a picture of the kr3 = sitting on a=20 trailer at oshkosh .
Being a kr builder and flyer for the last five = years, he was=20 very interested in it and asked me to find out if there were ever any = plans=20 released for it. Anybody able to help me out with this one?
 
PROGRESS report
Yesterday I removed my turtledeck from the mould and = tonight I=20 trimmed it and made a rough fit on the fuz.....perfect! I actually = surprised=20 myself with the quality of the finish from the mould (sheet of .020 = galvanised=20 sheet metal), it just needs a rubdown with waterpaper and the usual = pinhole=20 procedure and it will be ready for painting.It is also as stiff as a = plank (3/8=20 foam core).
Gotta go now
cheers 
Dene Collett
South Africa
denec@netactive.co.za
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BECCBB.5CD27680-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Cockpit Fires From: Ross Youngblood Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:02:59 -0700 X-Message-Number: 20 I thought about the parachute angle on this, and considered that a fire-extinguisher might have been helpful. ACS still sells the small halon fire extinguishers, they are not cheap, but once they are gone, they are gone... -- Ross > Subject: [kr-net] How not to get out of your plane > >PILOT JUMPS WITHOUT CHUTE: A pilot trying to escape a burning Vans RV-8 > >jumped Saturday near Lafayette, Ore., without a parachute. > >Eyewitnesses say the plane was in flames at about 200 to 300 ft/agl > >when 41-year-old Von Lyn Alexander jumped. Alexander, of Salem, Ore., > >was killed. The RV-8 crashed into a field and burned. Alexander had > >completed the homebuilt in December 1998. > > > >One more reason to wear a parachute while flight testing! > > > >Toby Dunham > >Houston, TX > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________ > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: ljacks@codenet.net > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: ugly Sonex; polyethylene gas tanks From: Michael Taglieri Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:03:09 -0400 X-Message-Number: 21 >>I think one reason people think the Sonex is an ugly plane is >>because the >>canopies on the prototypes are dark BROWN -- hideous >things > >No actually the whole plane is ugly. I never even noticed the brown >canopy. >(sorry I couldnt resist) You have the right to your opinion, but to (me except for the canopy), the Sonex looks as though someone saw a KR and tried to copy it in aluminum. The canopy is so hulking because they start it immediately behind the cowling, so the gas tank is under the canopy rather than in front of it. This is nonstructural, so a builder would not have to do it that way. Incidentally, someone here a few days ago mentioned how incredibly expensive the set-up costs are to have a polyethylene gas tank made for the KR. It appears that Sonex has done precisely that for their tank, which maybe could be adapted to the KR if you were making one that was fairly wide. Mike Taglieri ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Arlington Fly-in From: Tim Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:22:23 -0600 X-Message-Number: 22 Hey, Dudes; Just got back earlier tonight, to Cold Lake and 120 emails...talked with John (1972 KR2 -450hrs on type). Weather hot, absolutely great time...but you've probally all heard about that bad RV-crash/fire & the Coot-A powerline accident. I bought 4 pacs of T-88 from Wicks, there (pint kit's) they gave me the quart price which is lower (end of the show), which is kewl cause the pint bottles are easier to handle. Didn't make it to the fire pit for 10am Sat/morn, as I was tied up with my 0200 sale til around noon. Friday nite was porkies and beers til 0300hrs at the tie down. Saturday night was nursing the 'Skull Cramps' and the movie 'October Sky' then a few beer's. Sunday, planes/people evaporated fast, By airshow time @ 1:00pm lot's of open field/tie down. The 4 bladed Lancair 4 from Arlington, built by Mike and his father Gene, Won best homebuilt-Grand Champ. They will be taking it to Oshkosh, Sport Aviation was taking pictures of it for the magazine. Great fly-in...maybe in a KR next year? ;-) Tim --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com