From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 12:13 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: July 18, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Sunday, July 18, 1999. 1. Re: Fuel Lines 2. Re: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) 3. Re: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) 4. 2S aircraft located in Northwest 5. Denied Again 6. Troy flies the new wing, and lives! 7. Test 8. Troy flies the new wing, and lives! 9. Re: Fuel Lines 10. Looking for KR's on east coast. 11. Re: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) 12. More on Troy's plane 13. Re: Fuel Lines 14. Re: Looking for KR's on east coast. 15. Re: Fuel Lines 16. Re: More on Troy's plane 17. A Little Progress 18. Re: Fuel Lines 19. Re: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) 20. Re: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) 21. Shot out of the window(s) 22. Use ZERO Tygon 23. Re: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) 24. Re: 2S aircraft located in Northwest 25. Canopies/etc... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fuel Lines From: Malcolm Hartman Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:31:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 1 Hi Mike, I'm using 1/4" tygon throughout the fuel system on my KR2S. My engine is a VW type I 2300cc with a turbo. The fuel is pumped from the wings into a 4 gallon header tank, fuel gravity feeds from there to the gascolator and then to the carb. I have not had any problems so far after 50 hours. The FAA AC 90-89a gives a required fuel flow rate of 150% of the engine fuel consumption for gravity feed systems. Read AC90-89a. Malcolm --- Mike Mims wrote: > FLYKR2S@aol.com wrote: > > > > Hi KR'ers, > > > > Time to put the fuel line fittings on my fuel tank > so I can finish up the > > tank and the front deck. I will be using a VW > 2180. What size fuel lines are > > you using with this engine on a gravity flow > system? Any input will be a > > great help. > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Your best bet would be to go with 3/8 fuel line (ID > on rubber type > hose). > > > -- > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > Micheal Mims > Filling and Sanding again! > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > http://members.home.com/mikemims/ > Aliso Viejo CA > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: > n926fw@yahoo.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) From: Mdoby34371@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 11:08:39 EDT X-Message-Number: 2 In a message dated 7/16/99 11:51:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, WHIN77@aol.com writes: << has anyone thought about opening a canopy in flight? I suspect that if it hinges in the front, it may be real heavy to open at 120k >> We all need to engineer for safety, meaning that we need to look for where and what our head will hit, how the canopy opens (side front or back ) and think a little about how hard it's going to be to get out fast or get out at all if we have a ground loop or some other disaster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:39:51 -0700 X-Message-Number: 3 Mdoby34371@aol.com wrote: > > > << has anyone thought about opening a canopy in flight? I suspect that if it > hinges in the front, it may be real heavy to open at 120k >> I have flown in a Dragonfly with the forward hinging canopy and I can tell you that you can not open it with full throttle much less any forward airspeed. If this is a concern you can do what some Dragonfly builders have done and that is to make a jettison handle that is connected to the hinge pins. Procedure would be unlatch canopy, pull handle, boom canopy gone! You better be sure this is what you want to do as the Dragonfly and or KR will not maintain flight with the canopy missing. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Filling and Sanding again! http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 2S aircraft located in Northwest From: "Larry O'Rourke" Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 9:33:30 X-Message-Number: 4 I would like to know if there are any 2S in Wa, Ore, or Id that I might be able to look at. If you have a 2S in those three states and are willing to let me look at it, please contact me. Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Denied Again From: cartera Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:11:33 -0600 X-Message-Number: 5 Mark Langford, Nope, will not let me in, just did a reply and was rejected. This is what I got back. Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:13:46 -0600 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: The original message was received at Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:13:35 -0600 from pm1-129.cuug.ab.ca. [192.75.191.129] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mail.hiwaay.net.: >>> MAIL From: <<< 550 Access denied 554 ... Service unavailable Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.cuug.ab.ca Received-From-MTA: DNS; pm1-129.cuug.ab.ca. Arrival-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:13:35 -0600 Final-Recipient: RFC822; langford@hiwaay.net Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.hiwaay.net Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Access denied Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:13:46 -0600 -- Adrian VE6AFY Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Troy flies the new wing, and lives! From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 16:42:15 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6 WingNuts, I got a message from Troy Petteway last night, saying that he had flown his plane and that the new wing peformed wonderfully, with no heavy ailerons. He didn't comment on speed (I'm waiting for a call back from him) but did say that his small elevator (like Mims has) is "fantastic". He still doesn't have wheel fairings on yet either. I'll give another report after I talk to him. It should be noted that although the wing was designed especially for the KR2S, Troy's is a fairly stock KR2. In keeping with my promise to post the airfoil coordinates after Troy flew, I have posted them at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/as504x.html . If you have to ask what to do with them, you probably shouldn't be trying. You will also find instructions on how to order full size templates from TET, if you want. There is also a link there to the AS504X airfoil page, which explains the many benefits of this airfoil for the KR2S. There's also a link to the TET web page there as well. Gentlemen, start your airfoils! Many thanks to Steve Eberhart who made the wind tunnel specimens, and Ashok Gopalarathnam who actually designed the 3 airfoils especially for the KR2S. And of course, to the many contributors from KRNet who antied up the bucks to pay for the wind tunnel tests... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Test From: "Edwin Blocher" Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:33:08 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7 Test ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Troy flies the new wing, and lives! From: "Richard Parker" Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:52:19 PDT X-Message-Number: 8 Exciting news. With all the other modification Troy made, such as rebuilding the engine, adding dual mikuni carbs and intakes, speed mods to the engine compartment, prop change,the resultant increase in RPM, etc. I dont think there are going to be any definitive speed numbers that can primarily be attributed to the airfoil. I'll be interested in stall speed and handling data though. And more of a report (and pictures) on the small elevator. That would be a minor fix to make to a stock elevator. Please give us more! Rich Parker >WingNuts, > >I got a message from Troy Petteway last night, saying that he had flown his >plane and that the new wing peformed wonderfully, with no heavy ailerons. >He didn't comment on speed (I'm waiting for a call back from him) but did >say that his small elevator (like Mims has) is "fantastic". He still >doesn't have wheel fairings on yet either. I'll give another report after >I >talk to him. It should be noted that although the wing was designed >especially for the KR2S, Troy's is a fairly stock KR2. > >In keeping with my promise to post the airfoil coordinates after Troy >flew, >I have posted them at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/as504x.html . If you >have to ask what to do with them, you probably shouldn't be trying. You >will also find instructions on how to order full size templates from TET, >if >you want. There is also a link there to the AS504X airfoil page, which >explains the many benefits of this airfoil for the KR2S. There's also a >link to the TET web page there as well. Gentlemen, start your airfoils! > >Many thanks to Steve Eberhart who made the wind tunnel specimens, and Ashok >Gopalarathnam who actually designed the 3 airfoils especially for the KR2S. >And of course, to the many contributors from KRNet who antied up the bucks >to pay for the wind tunnel tests... > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama >mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: richontheroad@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fuel Lines From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:05:49 EDT X-Message-Number: 9 You mat want to replace the tygon tubing with polyurethane tubing or MIL-H-6000. The tygon will get brittle in tine and crack. I had it for my sight gauge, and after three years it was hard as a rock. When I tried to bend it, it broke. Every place I had tygon I replaced it with polyurethane. The poly has stayed soft and flexable. Gary Hinkle Middletown,Pa. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Looking for KR's on east coast. From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:55:17 EDT X-Message-Number: 10 I'm looking for any one in the PA, NJ, DE, MD, VA, NY, area. I have a KR2 based at 58N, next to Harrisbuug Int'l. Airport. We have 2 other KR's here also. Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) From: Bud Martin Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:00:32 -0600 X-Message-Number: 11 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C011119EBEA5508C5C0C032B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Way back when ('64) I was an official in Lincoln (NE) AFB SAC Aero Club, I took my son (Age 8) out for a Sunday morning flight in a T-34. During takeoff, the front portion of the canopy departed the aircraft, impacted the left horizontal stabilizer, and left debris on the active (Emergency War Order) runway. Somewhere in the military notices attending Beechcraft warnings was something that advised "ducking forward cockpit pilot's head," that I did (fortunately)--because of the tendency of the hatch to "dish in" (which it did, and I did). Because my incident closed the Alert Runway (for cleanup) for 30-minutes, the Base Commander personally interviewed me (a Captain at the time), suggesting some sort of pilot error was responsible--it was his job. I told him, " Yes sir, with my left hand on the throttle, and my right hand on the stick, with my third hand I pulled the canopy release handle!" Part of the (military) checklist for the T-34A preflight is a visual inspection of the canopy locks (within the cockpit). It is possible that canopy lock may not be physically engaged, even if apparently so. Fortunately, an incident, rather than an accident, resulted from that occurence--to the relief of the pilot and the Base Commander. In this case, attention to prior notice of the characteristics of emergency options probably saved a serious situation. "Hangar flying," and listening to how survivors are "still around" should be beneficial instruction for those who would "taste the sky." The eight-year-old is now forty-something, a jet pilot, who told me that Sunday-- "Hey, Dad, I think I don't want to go any more today." I hauled jumpers, too. When they don't want to go ... don't. In the national news, we have a GA VFR pilot entering IMC, with radar tracking showing the classic stall/spin descent at 1400 fpm. It is my opinion, all "accidents" are ultimately "pilot error." Mine, back in '64, was probably a matter of inattention. Today, whenever, was not the day whomever should have elected to "fly." The Kennedy tragedy is akin to doctors thinking they're invincible ... or whatever 'teen easily steals an airplane for a joy ride. The multiple points to the group? Screw-up, and die. The sky is unforgiving. Listen to those who have survived their own screw-ups. 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I heard him call "downwind" at Maury County earlier (75 miles away using my homemade copper tubing base antenna) so I knew he was busy flying. Although he modified his pitot system slightly (the old one got wasted in the original "incident") his power off stall speed was 48 knots, which he says was what the RAF48 did on his plane before. Stall was mushy and acted just about like the RAF48. He says his plane is "ten times more stable" than it used to be. Partly due to a more forward CG, larger horizontal stabilizer (I think he added 6" to each end like I did, maybe 4), and smaller elevator. Ailerons feel about like before, maybe slightly heavier. His weight is 498 pounds, actually a little lighter than before! He used carbon fiber to cover his h/s, elevator, and stub wing. It climbs at 3200 rpm at 100 knots at 1300 ft/min. Got off the ground in 500 feet. He took it up to 180 knots indicated (slightly downhill) and it does 150 knots @3000 rpm straight and level. The engine will wind up to 3700 wide open. He says the MIkuni's are the ticket, and run very smoothly. He welded up the intake manifold himself from scratch. He also added an Engle 110 cam during his rebuild. Static RPM is up from 2800 rpm before to 3200 rpm now, using the same prop (I think). He expects speed to increase when he fixes the nose heavy condition, and adds the carbon fiber wheelpants. His wing incidence at the root is 1 degree, and it's noticibly more level at speed than before (no more "Huey effect"). We'll get more numbers later, but for now, he's very happy with the results. Considering all of the modifications that he made, this is not the plane to test and get concrete numbers on the difference that the new wing makes. Somebody with a stock KR and good solid numbers will need to swap to the new wing before we have that. But general impressions are that's it's a real improvement, especially when combined with his other changes. For a look at Troy's plane (a few years back) see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/ktroyp.html . This is one of the nicest KRs you'll ever see. He also flight tested a new KR2 today for a guy in Murphreesboro TN, so we have a new member of the family that we'll meet at the Gathering... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fuel Lines From: cartera Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:19:42 -0600 X-Message-Number: 13 GARYKR2@cs.com wrote: > > You mat want to replace the tygon tubing with polyurethane tubing or > MIL-H-6000. The tygon will get brittle in tine and crack. I had it for my > sight gauge, and after three years it was hard as a rock. When I tried to > bend it, it broke. Every place I had tygon I replaced it with polyurethane. > The poly has stayed soft and flexable. > Gary Hinkle > > Middletown,Pa. > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cartera@cuug.ab.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com Very true tygon is not the line to use. My experience was a bit different. At Arlington, one day the temp was 92 deg and my canopy was closed so it must have gotten pretty warm in the cockpit and the tygon sight gauge shrunk and I had 100LL all over the inside of my KR. Jim Scott(may he rest in peace) told me to never use tygon. However, it was the recommended line for me to use. He told me the fuel line they used on Ultra Lights is the same line that is used on snowmobiles and that it was the only line to use if your using plastic. All my lines are 3/8" aluminum and a reinforced rubber line from the firewall/gasculator to the carb covered with a fire sleeve. Hope this helps! -- Adrian VE6AFY Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Looking for KR's on east coast. From: Steen8751A@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:21:16 EDT X-Message-Number: 14 I am at OKV, Winchester, VA. I don't have a KR, but have been following the newsgroup. I took Dana Overall and Mark Langford to Sun-N-Fun in my 1949 Bonanza this year. I would like to fly to Harrisburg and see your KRs. Doug Steen 540 868-0316 Winchester, VA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fuel Lines From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:20:12 -0700 X-Message-Number: 15 cartera wrote: > > All my lines are 3/8" aluminum and a reinforced rubber line from the firewall/gasculator to the carb covered with a fire sleeve. Hope this helps! > Something else to remember about fuel lines, you can get away with 1/4 inch lines on some engines but if you are at the point where you need to buy your lines and install them don't screw around with 1/4 inch lines! (not to call anyone's baby ugly) If you install 3/8 lines your system will flow adequate fuel for most any engine up to 100+ hp (O-200s like 3/8 fuel lines). Also the Ellison carbs will work fine when 3/8 lines are used on a gravity feed system. There are two almost identical Dragonflies in my hanger, one has 3/8s the other 1/4 inch. Guess which one has to have a fuel pump (on the gravity feed tank) turned on during climb out? -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Filling and Sanding again! http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: More on Troy's plane From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:24:39 -0700 X-Message-Number: 16 Mark Langford wrote: > > But general impressions are that's it's a real improvement, especially when combined with his other changes.>>>> I know you will feed us more info when its available but this is great stuff to keep the motivation factor up! Also we all know that a increase in HP of say 20 will do very little for top speed so if its going faster you can bet your butt its the airfoil. Also good to hear my tail idea worked! Woo Hoo. Well it wasn't my idea alone but it was one of those things me and Troy had a late night discussion about at Perrykosh a few years back. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Filling and Sanding again! http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: A Little Progress From: FLYKR2S@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:31:30 EDT X-Message-Number: 17 Hi Guys n Gals, I made an entry into my construction logbook tonight. It was the first since May 30, 1999. Boy it sure feels good to get something done. It wasn't much, a little varnishing to prepare the wing stubs for foaming and finishing. Also, I managed to install the fittings on my instrument panel and fuel tank for the fuel sight gauge. I haven't been able to get much done due to the new baby and the 20 month old boy who has reached the "terrible two's" a little early. Motivation has been low!!! I think I'm getting out of that rut 'cause I am pumped up about going to Airventure end of next week and I simply can't wait to get to the gathering in Sept. I know that will get my blood flowing again. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI flykr2s@aol.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fuel Lines From: FLYKR2S@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:37:52 EDT X-Message-Number: 18 In a message dated 7/18/99 10:24:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mikemims@home.com writes: << don't screw around with 1/4 inch lines! (not to call anyone's baby ugly) If you install 3/8 lines your system will flow adequate fuel for most any engine up to 100+ hp (O-200s like 3/8 fuel lines). Also the Ellison carbs will work fine when 3/8 lines are used on a gravity feed system. >> Hi Mike, Excellent point, well taken. I'm going with 3/8". Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI flykr2s@aol.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) From: Michael Taglieri Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:55:06 -0400 X-Message-Number: 19 >Procedure would be unlatch canopy, pull handle, boom canopy gone! >You better be sure this is what you want to do as the Dragonfly and or >KR will not maintain flight with the canopy missing. Maybe the Dragonfly, but I've seen instructions for an alternative open-cockpit design, at least for the KR-1, so why can't it fly with the cockpit removed? Mike Taglieri ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:58:19 -0700 X-Message-Number: 20 Michael Taglieri wrote: > > Maybe the Dragonfly, but I've seen instructions for an alternative > open-cockpit design, at least for the KR-1, so why can't it fly with the > cockpit removed? > > Mike Taglieri If you have a separate windshield (like mine) then yes it would fly but there has been at least one KR that lost its canopy and then went down. Besides it would be tough to build a "forward hinging" canopy with a fixed windshield wouldn't it? -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Filling and Sanding again! http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Shot out of the window(s) From: Ron Freiberger Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:54:17 -0500 X-Message-Number: 21 Regarding the rumor that Windows 98 IS a virus; my version recently deleted all my mail and recent KR correspondence. KR guy in Muncie, Tuholer guy, please resend ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Use ZERO Tygon From: Ron Freiberger Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:52:53 -0500 X-Message-Number: 22 > You mat want to replace the tygon tubing with polyurethane tubing or > MIL-H-6000. The tygon will get brittle in tine and crack. I had the same experience in a Cassutt I Built, but it was a lot less than three years. It is not suitable, even for lawnmowers. Ron Freiberger ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) From: SClay10106@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:39:22 EDT X-Message-Number: 23 More input please. This is new news to me why wont a kr fly without a cockpit? and if you were to loose it in flight what would be the flight caracteristics?? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 2S aircraft located in Northwest From: John Esch Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:42:05 -0700 X-Message-Number: 24 Larry I am currently constructing a 2S here in Salem, OR. Haven't really worked on it in about 6 months due to twins being born. It is in the frame state and trying to glue on the tail post. I didn't forget about the 1/4 inch ply behind it either. John F. Esch Salem, OR Larry O'Rourke wrote: > > I would like to know if there are any 2S in Wa, Ore, or Id that I might be > able to look at. If you have a 2S in those three states and are willing to > let me look at it, please contact me. Thanks > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: jfesch@home.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Canopies/etc... From: Tim Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:59:16 -0600 X-Message-Number: 25 Yes Mike, But why doesn't some talented KR2 builder design a nice rear sliding Canopy/Windshield like the RV6...that combined with the new airfoil, wing tanks...'Oh yea' Now I'm really getting excited ;-) Mike Mims wrote: If you have a separate windshield (like mine) then yes it would fly but there has been at least one KR that lost its canopy and then went down. Besides it would be tough to build a "forward hinging" canopy with a fixed windshield wouldn't it? > - > Micheal Mims > Filling and Sanding again! > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > http://members.home.com/mikemims/ > Aliso Viejo CA > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com