From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 12:15 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: August 13, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Friday, August 13, 1999. 1. Re: D/FW area builders 2. Re: 2180 Less Reliable? 3. Re: 2180 Less Reliable? 4. Re: Web Site Moved 5. Re: D/FW area builders 6. Re: 2180 Less Reliable? 7. Re: D/FW area builders 8. Re: Drain hole size 9. Re: 2180 Less Reliable? 10. Re: Eng. timing 11. Re: 2180 Less Reliable? 12. Re: D/FW area builders 13. Re: diesel engine 14. VW engine cg's ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: D/FW area builders From: "John Weikel" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:34:13 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1 David, I got mine from Russ Chambers at Alpha Aviation P. O. Box 8641 Greenville, Tx 75404 (903) 527-3817. Nice guy and competative on prices. John W -----Original Message----- From: David McKelvey To: KR-net users group Date: Thursday, August 12, 1999 12:46 PM Subject: [kr-net] D/FW area builders >does anyone know of a local resource for epoxy, I'm finding it costs as >much to ship as purchase price. > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: jandd@maverickbbs.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 2180 Less Reliable? From: tom Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:47:54 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2 Ross Youngblood wrote: > > The 2180 has a stroked > crank, and larger heads, more material is machined from an > engine case designed for a 1600 cc engine. Larger heads? HUH?? -- Tom Crawford Gainesville, FL N262TC Mailto:toys@atlantic.net http://www.tomshardwoodtoys.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 2180 Less Reliable? From: "Wayne DeLisle Sr." Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:55:30 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3 At 08:47 AM 08/13/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Ross Youngblood wrote: >> >> The 2180 has a stroked >> crank, and larger heads, more material is machined from an >> engine case designed for a 1600 cc engine. > > >Larger heads? HUH?? You can buy custom heads for Type 1 engines with that are considerably larger then the heads for your Type 4 engine. Pick up a copy of Hot VW's mag. You will be amazed at what is available. WD --------------------------------------------------------- Wayne DeLisle Sr. Charlotte, North Carolina USA mailto:dodger@accessnode.net http://accessnode.net/~dodger --------------------------------------------------------- Project Viking "Daring to venture forward from the Dark Ages" online FAQ/manual at http://www.evansville.net/~boeing/project_viking ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Web Site Moved From: RFG842@aol.com Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:27:16 EDT X-Message-Number: 4 Mike Tried to access this morning and got the msg, address can no longer be found at this site. ?????????? Tnks, Bob ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: D/FW area builders From: HAshraf@aol.com Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:31:05 EDT X-Message-Number: 5 In a message dated 99-08-13 01:12:52 EDT, you write: << I am willing to bet Dallas / Fort Worth. :o) Has the HAZ MAT fee increased on epoxy? How are you having it shipped and from where? Your the first person to bring this up and I know at least half of these guys had to order their epoxy >> If you look at Aircraft Spruce catalog some epoxies ship non hazardous. Haris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 2180 Less Reliable? From: "David & Jo Ann Lininger" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:21:37 +0000 X-Message-Number: 6 Could it be that the last Corvair engines were made more than 30 years ago? Yes, I know that the air-cooled VW engines aren't exactly new anymore, either, but there are a lot of companies that are basically manufacturing them. Also, aren't the Corvair engines heavier than VW engines? David KB0ZKE Rev. 2:10c djlinin@todays-tech.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: D/FW area builders From: Horn2004@aol.com Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:53:48 EDT X-Message-Number: 7 In a message dated 8/12/99 8:48:42 PM, davmck@gte.net writes: <> Most folks in EAA Chapter 168 (Dallas) order their epoxy from either AS&S or Wicks. There is a source for epoxy in Greenville, TX, but if you figure in the gas, sales tax and time to get down there, you'd be better off ordering from AS&S or Wicks. There is also a boating supply store on Harry Hines which sells epoxy, but they aren't cheap. Steve Horn Dallas, TX horn2004@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Drain hole size From: Al Hawkins Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 07:59:25 -0700 X-Message-Number: 8 I was wondering what the recommended size for drain holes are for the fuselage floor. Alastair Hawkins Port Coquitlam, B.C. Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 2180 Less Reliable? From: Ross Youngblood Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:56:47 -0700 X-Message-Number: 9 OK, not Larger Heads, Larger Pistons, Larger Cylinders, and the HEADS are CLEARANCED for the cylinders.... It was late. -- Ross At 08:47 AM 08/13/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Ross Youngblood wrote: >> >> The 2180 has a stroked >> crank, and larger heads, more material is machined from an >> engine case designed for a 1600 cc engine. > > >Larger heads? HUH?? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Eng. timing From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:30:15 EDT X-Message-Number: 10 If you go into the VW maint. books for the cars, two methods are givin. Engine runing - use strobe lite. Engine not runing - test light or ohm meter. I can't see pulling the prop every time to check the timing. The book I'm looking at right now is by Haynes, for years 1954 thru 1979, all models. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 2180 Less Reliable? From: Mike Mims Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:49:39 -0700 X-Message-Number: 11 David & Jo Ann Lininger wrote: > > Could it be that the last Corvair engines were made more than 30 > years ago? Yes, I know that the air-cooled VW engines aren't > exactly new anymore, >> Oh contraire my friend. The VW Beetle with its aircooled motor is still in production. I saw a 1999 Beetle just the other day. It was up from Mexico. You can buy BRAND NEW 1600 cc factory built aircooled VW motors here in California. Interesting how we Americans automatically assume that it doesn't exist unless we can buy here in the good ole US. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Filling and Sanding again! http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: D/FW area builders From: David McKelvey Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:28:11 -0500 X-Message-Number: 12 Marvin, While D/FW is a huge aerospace chunk of real estate, I found that most suppliers cater to the airline and defence industry. If you don't mind Marvin, Please email me privately and attach some Pac NW weather, we're die'in down here!! Thanks to all for your responces. dave ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: diesel engine From: "Steven & Anita Oliver" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:33:56 -0600 X-Message-Number: 13 Forget about Diesel, Jet A Burns Cleaner and has a lower flash point (Number one reason why the military uses nothing but jet fuel in there diesel Vehicles -----Original Message----- From: Tobin Dunham To: KR-net users group Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 5:41 AM Subject: [kr-net] diesel engine >Hey guys, forget that Corvair stuff. The diesel engine that was advertised >on kr-net is the real "wave of the future". Anyone who hasn't checked it >out yet needs to. http://www.zoche.de It looks to me like the engine that >would be best for a kr would be the 70hp, which weighs in at (I think) 121 >lbs. Of course, you could step up to the 150hp model (at 185lbs) and still >be lighter than a Corvair or a VW! > >Think about it, guys. Diesel runs on heat/compression, not a spark. So no >more magnetos, meaning less weight. Just go through all the advantages of >diesel on that site. They say it should be about the same price as a >comparable gas-engine, so the price won't be too far out there. I know that >will probably turn a lot of you off, but I think the price is well worth the >advantages. When it comes time for me to look at engine options, this might >be my first choice, if it's available. > >So now we need to convince all FBOs to carry diesel.... > >Toby Dunham >Houston, TX >homepage at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/7013 > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: saoliver@olp.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: VW engine cg's From: "Wolf Packs, Inc." Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 15:36:36 -0700 X-Message-Number: 14 --=====================_51259808==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I sent this last week but never saw it come through the net. My apologies for the repeat if I just missed seeing it the first time. Someone asked for CG's of VW's and I found this in an old HAPI catalog. I'll try to describe the drawing. With the accessory case, Slick Mag., and prop hub attached the CG is 5.5" in front of the engine case flange (where it bolts to the acces. case), measuring from the FRONT (prop.) side of the flange. It also shows the CG is 7.75" in front of the point where the accessory case meets the engine mount, using their acces. case (which is just under 2" thick if I remember correctly). If you need more clarity e-mail me privately and I'll scan the drawing. Paul Martin Ashland, OR mailto:paul@wolfpacks.com --=====================_51259808==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I sent this last week but never saw it come through the net.  My apologies for the repeat if I just missed seeing it the first time.

Someone asked for CG's of VW's and I found this in an old HAPI catalog.  I'll try to describe the drawing.

With the accessory case, Slick Mag., and prop hub attached the CG is 5.5" in front of the engine case flange (where it bolts to the acces. case), measuring from the FRONT (prop.) side of the flange. 

It also shows the CG is 7.75" in front of the point where the accessory case meets the engine mount, using their acces. case (which is just under 2" thick if I remember correctly).

If you need more clarity e-mail me privately and I'll scan the drawing.

Paul Martin
Ashland, OR
mailto:paul@wolfpacks.com
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