From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 12:18 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: September 14, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Tuesday, September 14, 1999. 1. Re: Gear Brackets 2. Nose Heavy 3. Engine For Sale 4. Re: Prop extension 5. Are KR-2 wings removable ? 6. Progress 7. Electric overdrive for cruising 8. Re: Electric overdrive for cruising 9. Re: Electric overdrive for cruising 10. Re: Magnetos 11. Re: Nose heavy? 12. Re: Magnetos 13. Electirc overdrive 14. VW Heads & spark Plug Wires 15. Re: Gear Brackets 16. Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? 17. Re: Electric overdrive for cruising 18. Re: Magnetos 19. Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? 20. Name and Location 21. Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? 22. Re: Name and Location 23. Engine options 24. Re: Name and Location 25. Re: Gear Brackets 26. Re: Gear Brackets 27. Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? 28. Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? 29. Re: Engine options 30. Re: Diehl Gear brackets 31. Re: Engine options 32. Re: Diehl Gear brackets 33. Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? 34. Re: Name and Location ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Gear Brackets From: "Stefan B." Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:18:21 +0100 X-Message-Number: 1 Mike Mims wrote: > I think you guys are making something big out of nothing here. I used to > TIG weld bike frames and brackets all the time (yes 4130). I think maybe > too much heat is being used if your warping the steel. But like I said I > don't have access to a welder so I will pay to have it done. Shouldn't > cost no more than $100 for all the welds. I will cut out the pieces on > the band saw at work. Of course I will let you know how this goes. > > -- > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > Micheal Mims > Building New Gear Legs > http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ > http://members.home.com/mikemims/ > Aliso Viejo CA > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I am sorry if my questions or thoughts make something big out of nothing. My problem is that in France you can't have it weld but by someone certified by the French FAA (DGAC). You can imagine that such a "professional" welder wants much more than US$100... I'd like to have just some "experimenter's" opinion if any... Stefan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Nose Heavy From: Jim Faughn Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:45:11 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2 My plane is set up such that with full fuel and flying solo I need 20 lbs of weight in my baggage compartment. I typically fly with some tools and my photo album plus some other misc. stuff so it comes out fine. I think forward CG is good and have set my aft limit as 2 inches before the aft limit stated in the plans. This was done years ago on a recommendation by Dan Diehl and I think he was right. Timothy Bellville wrote: > > I am looking for a used , Slick 4316 mag for my 1600cc VW, I currently have > a electronic ignition system and just discovered that IM nose heavy. > >Nose heavy is not a bad thing. How nose heavy are you? What's the CG >with you in the plane and a half main tank (assuming you have a header >tank)? If its within the range then your good to go. I would even >venture to say that if you are at the forward limit or slightly beyond >with you and half tanks you are ok. I need some KR flyer out there to >back me on this please. -- Jim Faughn N8931JF St. Louis, MO mailto:jfaughn@mvp.net (314) 652-7659 or Cell (314) 346-4038 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Engine For Sale From: Malcolm Hartman Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 3 I have a VW Type I, 2300cc engine with about 900 hours left in it that I no longer have use of. -Dual ignition mag/elec. -Force One prop hub, forged 82 crank -Ray Jay turbo -HAPI case, engine mount included(almost firewall forward, no carb.) -Price $2500 Anyone interested can me directly for further particulars. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Prop extension From: tom Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:40:36 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4 Wayne DeLisle Sr. wrote: > > > Hi Tom, > > How many hours do you have on your Type-4 engine? > > Have you experienced any problems that had to be fixed, > other then normal maintenance?? > > Thanks, > > WD > --------------------------------------------------------- > Wayne DeLisle Sr. > Charlotte, North Carolina USA > mailto:dodger@accessnode.net > http://accessnode.net/~dodger > Wayne, 120 hours on the T4 with no unusual problems. Seems to run better with time. -- Tom Crawford Gainesville, FL N262TC Mailto:toys@atlantic.net http://www.tomshardwoodtoys.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Are KR-2 wings removable ? From: "Shreyans Shah" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 6:35:46 X-Message-Number: 5 Hi, I am looking for a homebuilt which I can build and keep in my two car garage space. It should have removable wings so that I can trailer it to the airport, assemble & fly it and on returning, remove the wings and trailor it back to garage. Can I do this with KR-2 ? If yes, is anybody already doing it? I would appreciate any response to this question. Thanks in advance. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Progress From: "Edwin Blocher" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:13:42 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6 As Mark Langford suggested some time back I have tried to configure my fuselage shape for the new airfoil. If I can find someone here to help I'll have pictures on my website before too long (computers are not really my thing and I'm too old and don't have time get too invloved in it, e-mail keeps me on too long). Just glued the last 32 gussets on side one. Will start the other side tomorrow and will be asking a lot of questions at the gathering before I continue. Went to the FSDO in Birmingham, AL this morning and got all the paperwork. They were great and I enjoyed the visit with them. They could not have been more helpful. I've used enough space today. See you at the Gathering. :-) Ed Blocher ed_blocher@msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Electric overdrive for cruising From: Doug Fortune Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:53:12 -0600 X-Message-Number: 7 I have an idea that an electric overdrive (clutch) might be used to reduce engine rpm, but maintain prop rpm for cruise. I seem to recall my old 1978 Triumph had an overdrive module (completely separate from the transmission) mounted at the back of the driveshaft just before it entered the differential. It gave me a 1/3 reduction in RPM (engine 3000 rpm to 2000 rpm, maintaining the same rear wheel speed) for highway cruising. The electric toggle switch was on the dash. A guy a work here thought his 87 Volvo 740 GLE had something similar. Can anyone suggest other electric overdrives (car model, year etc) which I could look into? This may work better for rear-drive Canards, but you never know. Doug Fortune Calgary ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Electric overdrive for cruising From: Michael Clancy Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:57:38 -0400 X-Message-Number: 8 Doug : I wouldn't use anything off a british car for aviation. They can't even make it down a road and back. Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Electric overdrive for cruising From: "Edwin Blocher" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:14:26 -0500 X-Message-Number: 9 I shouldn't send this but I will. If you have ever been to the UK and driven 140 mph on a two lane road and made it back and seen some of their engines both cars and bikes you wouldn't be so hasty in your statements. I drove an Escort from Banbury, Oxford, to Gatwick at 105 mph and I'll bet It's still running. No problems with my Jag yet. Ed -----Original Message----- From: Michael Clancy To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 5:59 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Electric overdrive for cruising >Doug : I wouldn't use anything off a british car for aviation. They >can't even make it down a road and back. Mike > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: ed_blocher@email.msn.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Magnetos From: "Timothy Bellville" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:41:07 -0400 X-Message-Number: 10 -----Original Message----- From: Mike Mims To: KR-net users group Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 9:41 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Magnetos >Timothy Bellville wrote: >> >> I am looking for a used , Slick 4316 mag for my 1600cc VW, I currently have >> a electronic ignition system and just discovered that IM nose heavy. >> > >Nose heavy is not a bad thing. How nose heavy are you? What's the CG >with you in the plane and a half main tank (assuming you have a header >tank)? If its within the range then your good to go. I would even >venture to say that if you are at the forward limit or slightly beyond >with you and half tanks you are ok. I need some KR flyer out there to >back me on this please. > >-- >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >Micheal Mims >Building New Gear Legs >http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ >http://members.home.com/mikemims/ >Aliso Viejo CA >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I must aploigize to all for my being so veage, and I must confess that the plane is not a KR , but a Sonerai I. I subscibe to this news group due to the kinship that the two desinges have with the VW . And I have decided that my next project is going to be a KR2s. (My wife is bugging me to build a two seater ). My empty wt. CG is 4 " too far forward and 5.25" at full gross. The elevator may not have enough control athority in this confifuration. Any advice would be appreciated Tim> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Nose heavy? From: "Timothy Bellville" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:45:51 -0400 X-Message-Number: 11 -----Original Message----- From: Ed Janssen To: KR-net users group Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 10:07 PM Subject: [kr-net] Nose heavy? >Tim, > >How much nose heavy? Many KR drivers have discovered that their KR seems to >fly better while closer to the forward end of the CG envelope. You might be >undoing a good thing. > >Ed Janssen > >I must apolgise for be misleading , Ed , But the situation applys to my Sonerai I. I as of yet do not own a KR, but soon. Tim > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: tbellville@mindspring.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Magnetos From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:44:34 EDT X-Message-Number: 12 Without getting into a long explaination, being out of C/G on the forward sideis not that bad. The normal effects would be a slightly higher stall speed ( 3 to 5 mph ) depending how far out. If only an inch or two out, fly it. I'm flying my "2" with the old C/G , and I know it was moved forward on later planes. Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Electirc overdrive From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:00:02 EDT X-Message-Number: 13 Not the same as a car. Drop the RPM, and you drop your hp. Don't forget that we turn our engines about a 1000rpm low as it is. Bugs produce ther power in the high 4000 range. The prop tip speed is the limiting factor. Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs,com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: VW Heads & spark Plug Wires From: "R.W. Moore" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:01:31 -0400 X-Message-Number: 14 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01BEFEF4.51F2E220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please, Does any one have a set of VW heads for a 1835 engine with the new spark = plug holes not the ones that has the spark plub tubes inside of the = valve cover. I also need a spark plug wire for the ones that has the = plugs inside the valve cover. I would like to buy these things for a = good price. As to the old style spark plug wires I hope some one has = changed to the new style and have them laying around.=20 R. W. Moore=20 706-779-3446 . =20 ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01BEFEF4.51F2E220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_005F_01BEFEF4.51F2E220-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Gear Brackets From: Mike Mims Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:05:24 -0700 X-Message-Number: 15 "Stefan B." wrote: > > My problem is that in France you can't have it weld but by someone certified by the French FAA (DGAC). >> Now that would be a big deal! :o) How does the DGAC view it when you buy parts from Rand Robinson or other homebuilt suppliers? Most of them do not employ certified (A&P) employees for the construction of the components. The reason I ask is what if say I made you some brackets and sent them to you? Could you use them? -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? From: Stickandrudder@cs.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:16:16 EDT X-Message-Number: 16 I'm only in the building stage and with the origional wing attach fittings the wing is a bear to re align for putting it on. I plan to leave the wing together until one of these krnet whizzo's makes it removable easily-able. Paul Stickandrudder@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Electric overdrive for cruising From: Tlongcrier@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:42:59 EDT X-Message-Number: 17 Doug Re the electric overdrive idea. I don't know if it would have any potential, but there should be an ample supply around. The MGB's had an available electric overdrive such as this. In fact I have an MGB overdrive transmission in my shop. Several club members want it pretty badly but the prices are up, of course and I have chosen not to sell it. The reduction ratios may be a little different fron the Triumph, but I wouldn't be surprised if all used in these type British Sports Cars were not the same. I had a hobby/business for some 15 years - "British Sports Car Repairs" - and have seen and worked on many MGB's and Midgets and quite a few Triumphs and others. While they are different, if they are tuned and adjusted and maintained properly, they are quite dependable. Particularly, the electric overdrive. It is almost "bullet Proof" as are the manual transmissions. Most problems with the overdrive are with the solenoid, dirt, or the wiring to the switch. Hardly ever anything mechanically. Over the years, I found that the people - young and old alike - who had had a bad experience with an MG (Triumph TR 7's excepted, except for the later models) did not know what to do with them, did not know who to take them to for service and/or repair, ( there is always somebody anywhere that knows and can work on MG's if you will only seek them out), or did not want to spend any money on them - I'm talking competive charges here - so they just went down. They will give pretty good service even under adverse conditions, but eventually any piece of moving machinery will just die without ANY proper attention. A lot of them I brought back to life had not had any proper attention since they left the factory. This was in the late '70'', the 80's and early '90's. And the cars were 1930, 40 and 50' technolgy. Last MGB imported was the 1980 model. I quit about 5 years ago, but still have about a dozen left in my shop. (No overdrives, though). There are several companies out there selling and remanufacturing and promoting, "keeping the breed alive". (Such as the Corvair). I would't pay much attention to anyone making disparaging remarks about the British cars, the Sports cars, anyway. It's their opinion, but who knows upon what facts and knowledgable research it is founded. Very few, in all probability. It's not my opinion. Go to www.victoriabritish.com They are big in British parts and you can probaby find some info on the overdrive. Their catalog is free. Get one. You'll enjoy it. TFL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Magnetos From: "JEAN" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:47:54 -0500 X-Message-Number: 18 Tim I too had a Sonerai II that was nose heavy. I put 6 lb. of lead in the tail behind the inspection plate. Brought it right in limits. Jean KR 2 N4DD -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Bellville To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 6:51 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Magnetos > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Mims >To: KR-net users group >Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 9:41 PM >Subject: [kr-net] Re: Magnetos > > >>Timothy Bellville wrote: >>> >>> I am looking for a used , Slick 4316 mag for my 1600cc VW, I currently >have >>> a electronic ignition system and just discovered that IM nose heavy. >>> >> >>Nose heavy is not a bad thing. How nose heavy are you? What's the CG >>with you in the plane and a half main tank (assuming you have a header >>tank)? If its within the range then your good to go. I would even >>venture to say that if you are at the forward limit or slightly beyond >>with you and half tanks you are ok. I need some KR flyer out there to >>back me on this please. >> >>-- >>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >>Micheal Mims >>Building New Gear Legs >>http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ >>http://members.home.com/mikemims/ >>Aliso Viejo CA >>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >I must aploigize to all for my being so veage, and I must confess that the >plane is not a KR , but a Sonerai I. I subscibe to this news group due to >the kinship that the two desinges have with the VW . And I have decided >that my next project is going to be a KR2s. (My wife is bugging me to build >a two seater ). >My empty wt. CG is 4 " too far forward and 5.25" at full gross. The elevator >may not have enough control athority in this confifuration. > >Any advice would be appreciated >Tim> > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: N4DD@prodigy.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? From: E J Spencer Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:48:21 -0500 X-Message-Number: 19 Sorry, sent to the wrong address Joe Spencer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Name and Location From: Mark Jones Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:05:37 -0500 X-Message-Number: 20 Hi KR Heads, I would like to make a suggestion to all who post to the KR Net! PLEASE, when you place a post on the net, at the end, state your name, location as in city and state, your e-mail address and web site address if you have one. This would be greatly appreciated by everyone! This allows everyone to know if there are builders or fliers in their area and also gives anyone your e-mail who would like to contact you directly. This has been suggested before yet doesn't seem to catch on with everyone. Personally, I would like to know who's out there and their location. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI flykr2s@execpc.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? From: "R.W. Moore" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:10:30 -0400 X-Message-Number: 21 YES. They can fold along the side of the airplane rwm ----- Original Message ----- From: E J Spencer To: KR-net users group Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 9:48 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? > Sorry, sent to the wrong address Joe Spencer > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rwmoore@alltel.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Name and Location From: "Mark Langford" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:28:17 -0500 X-Message-Number: 22 Mark Jones wrote: > PLEASE, when you place a post on the net, at the end, state your name, > location as in city and state, your e-mail address and web site address Hell, I'd just like to see a clue as to what some of these guys are replying to (since nothing is quoted above OR below. It doesn't help me a WHOLE lot to know that somebody agrees with something that somebody said, but it REALLY doesn't help when I don't even know WHAT it is that he agrees with... Mark Langford (needs a vacation), Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Engine options From: "garbez" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:42:41 -0500 X-Message-Number: 23 KR builders and flyers, As most of you know about my KR2, N998MG, I'm looking into upgrading the engine. I am now running an 1835 VW with a 52-50 prop and the empty weight is now 680 lbs. I'm looking for an engine that will fly the airplane better with a passenger. Right now the 1835 will not do the job from the performance figures in the test flights. The KR-2's air frame and wings are all stock with the exception that it has been reinforced. The air frame is not going to come apart at 1200 gross, this weight includes pilot, passenger, and 29 gals. fuel. My question is what hp should I put in it and what engine and prop combination should I use. I don't have a lot of money so I'm trying to keep the cost down. I only have 8900 dollars in my KR2. I am asking for opinions and options to investigate so I can make the best decision I can on an alternate power plant that will increase the performance and reliability of my KR2. I ordered the plans for the corvair engine and have looked around here for 3 months and found nothing. The availability of this engine seems to be too rare. I also have two type 4 VW engines that need to be built for aircraft use or do I need to find a certified aircraft engine, which the cost is not going to be easy to come up with , but the reliability of them puts my mind at ease. I'm not sure where to go with this, I really love the way my KR flys and I want it to fly well with me and my wife and be as safe as possible. All opinions will be greatly appreciated. E-mail me directly if you like, but I think a lot of KR builders would benefit from your responses also. Mike Garbez N998MG Griswold, IA msgtlg@netins.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Name and Location From: Mark Jones Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:54:32 -0500 X-Message-Number: 24 Mark Langford wrote: > Hell, I'd just like to see a clue as to what some of these guys are replying > to (since nothing is quoted above OR below. It doesn't help me a WHOLE lot > to know that somebody agrees with something that somebody said, but it > REALLY doesn't help when I don't even know WHAT it is that he agrees with... Yep, I have to agree with you!!! I saw your last post about this a couple weeks ago and seems not everyone took the hint, so I wanted to reiterate the importance of having all the pertinent information in a post. If we keep asking, maybe we will receive! Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI flykr2s@execpc.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Gear Brackets From: HAshraf@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:55:58 EDT X-Message-Number: 25 In a message dated 9/14/99 1:19:34 AM EST, Stefan.Balatchev@wanadoo.fr writes: << Haris, Do you think that a composite brackets will do? These brackets could be epoxied AND bolted to the spar. I just don't like the complexity of the 4130 welded and normalized brackets. Also, the composite brackets could be made in the same time as the legs. Stefan. >> Stefan. I am sure you can design composite brackets but I am not a structrual engineer so I would leave the details to a structrual expert. If welding is a problem you can use one piece Aluminium gear. Original RR fixed gear design uses that. go to these sites for some more info. www.groveaircraft.com www.hammerhead-aviation.com I have not been to their sites but they advertise in industry magazine. Haris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Gear Brackets From: HAshraf@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:57:29 EDT X-Message-Number: 26 In a message dated 9/14/99 3:19:23 AM EST, Stefan.Balatchev@wanadoo.fr writes: << (DGAC). You can imagine that such a "professional" welder wants much more than US$100... I'd like to have just some "experimenter's" opinion if any... Stefan. >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? From: "Mark Langford" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:00:59 -0500 X-Message-Number: 27 Shreyans Shah wrote: > I am looking for a homebuilt which I can build and keep in my two car > garage space. It should have removable wings so that I can trailer it to > the airport, assemble & fly it and on returning, remove the wings and > trailor it back to garage. Since nobody else really answered this, I'll give it a stab. I've watched several people put their wings on KR's, and it usually takes about 2 hours. I would think that the wing attach fittings would wear a little each time this ordeal is undertaken. I think that most KR pilots would shudder at the thought of removing and installing their wings each time they want to fly. R.W. Moore (rwmoore@alltel.net) sells a folding wing kit that might do what you want, but the stock system is not user friendly, and is certainly not something you'd want to spend your time doing every weekend... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? From: HAshraf@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:13:59 EDT X-Message-Number: 28 In a message dated 9/14/99 8:17:41 PM EST, Stickandrudder@cs.com writes: << I'm only in the building stage and with the origional wing attach fittings the wing is a bear to re align for putting it on. I plan to leave the wing together until one of these krnet whizzo's makes it removable easily-able. Paul >> Put a universal joint in Mark Langfords aileron pushrod setup. Use a pins on the bottom of WAF's and you a wing that fold up like a WW2 torpedo bomber. here is the link: http://home.hiwaay.net/~la ngford/owings.html How about that for a priliminary design:-) Haris Haris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Engine options From: Mike Mims Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:17:59 -0700 X-Message-Number: 29 garbez wrote: > I'm not sure where to go with this, I really love the way my KR flies and I want it to fly well with me and my wife and be as safe as possible.>>>> Well I think you should consider a 2180 upgrade to your current engine. I don't know what you and your wife weigh but I flew with Troy Pettaway at a gathering a few years ago and our combined weight had to be OVER 400 pounds. Troy was running a 2100 Revmaster and when he took off we climbed well in excess of 500 FPM and when we leveled off 160 mph was no problem. You don't have to spend a lot of money to get the performance you want. Just a good running 2180 would be more than enough power. Also you said you are running a 52x50 prop on a 1835. What kind of RPM are you getting? That is A LOT of prop for such a small engine. Maybe you could spend as little as $300 for a 52X48 prop and get the RPM up to 3500 and that would do it. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Diehl Gear brackets From: * Flesner * Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:45:35 X-Message-Number: 30 ====================================================================== >Well, here is what little I know about the gear brackets. The DD >brackets are near 60 degrees. That's a bit much in my opinion, but >when I built mine - I used the same angle (no good explanation.) > ============snip=============== >Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin >mailto:drdean@execpc.com >Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- Fellow netters, After reading the several post on the Diehl legs vs. build your own, I'd like to offer the following. First, the upper bracket mount for the gear leg is somewhere very near 45 degrees. Thats as close as I'll call it as mounted on my project and measured with a"smartlevel". I built my own lower brackets before Dan Diehl issued his 4130 replacement brackets. Amazing how similar they look. More on that later. First, for those wanting to make their own gear legs, I'd suggest someone call Dan and price the brackets only without the legs. He gave me a ballpark figure of $80 a few years back for the upper brackets only. They could very well be more than that but if you spend $150 for material and labor , how much difference are you looking at? I built my lower brackets with 4130. I used 1/4 inch by 2 inch stock. (Dan uses 1/4 X 2 1/2 inch stock.) Dan's are bent with a welded gusset and mine are welded with a gusset. I took a piece of stock approx. 7 inches long and using a hacksaw, I cut through about 80 percent of the material at the 3 1/2 inch (approx.) location. I then laid the material accross two pieces of 2x4 scrap with the cut between the two pieces and on the bottom side. Using a rubber hammer, I tapped on the back side of the cut until the piece was bent to a 45 degree angle. ( I used a small square with a 45 degree platform to measure the angle.) I then used that piece to trace out a gusset on the remaining stock. After cutting and dressing up the gusset , I took them to a welder. He welded the cut shut, welded the gusset in place and put a weld on the inside of the bend. I later dressed the outside weld with the belt sander and painted them. The only caution is keep the weld on the gusset as neat and tight as possible or you could get into the area you drill for the axle mount bolt holes. If I don't trailer my project to the Gathering , I'll at least have pictures. Larry Flesner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Engine options From: Tlongcrier@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:50:13 EDT X-Message-Number: 31 Mike Garbez >the availability of the engine (Corvair) seems rare........ around here< William Wynne, a few weeks ago, said he would sell me an engine, but I didn't persue it so I don't have any particulars. He also said he would, in all probability, come to the gathering and that he might bring his Covair powered Petinpol (sp) - maybe even his trailer mounted Corvair engine demonstrator. Could be a chance for you to persue the Corvair. Thurman Longcrier TLongcrier@aol Florence, Alabama ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Diehl Gear brackets From: Mike Mims Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:03:55 -0700 X-Message-Number: 32 First, for those wanting to make their own gear legs, I'd suggest someone call > Dan and price the brackets only without the legs. He gave me a ballpark > figure of $80 a few years back for the upper brackets only. They could > very well be more than that but if you spend $150 for material and labor > , how much difference are you looking at? > Did that, he wants $200 for them. I already have the 4130 laying around so its just a matter of cutting it out and having it welded. I will say that $200 isn't that bad of a price but we want to make the brackets in a way that will allow us a little more forward sweep. I still just might order the brackets from Dan. Also we plan to use 1/8 material for the upper and lower brackets. 1/4 inch has to be overkill. After all the landing gear that I have off the Piper PA-28 uses only 1/8 inch. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? From: "gideon" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 06:40:29 +0200 X-Message-Number: 33 ">http://home.hiwaay.net/~la This link for removable KR wings does not work.Is it correct? Gideon Queenstown South Africa ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Name and Location From: Michael Taglieri Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:36:49 -0400 X-Message-Number: 34 >I would like to make a suggestion to all who post to the KR Net! >PLEASE, when you place a post on the net, at the end, state your name, >location as in city and state, your e-mail address and web site >address if you have one. Doesn't the header automatically give the e-mail address, or do some people here have systems that don't let you read the header? Mike Taglieri ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com