From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 12:22 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: September 15, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Wednesday, September 15, 1999. 1. Re: Name and Location 2. Re: Engine options 3. VW Heads 4. Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? 5. Re: VW Heads 6. Re: Name and Location 7. Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? 8. primer for civilized list behavior 9. Re: Off Topic (Endurance) 10. Re: Off Topic (Endurance) 11. Re: VW Heads 12. vw engine mount 13. KR Ignition 14. Engine options 15. Re: VW Heads 16. Re: Engine options 17. Re: Name and Location 18. High fuel burn 19. Re: High fuel burn 20. Re: Name and Location 21. Info from Gathering 22. Spars for new airfoil (was Info from Gathering) 23. Re: Info from Gathering 24. Room with a view 25. Re: Avionics 26. Re: Name and Location 27. Re: Gear Brackets ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Name and Location From: "John Weikel" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 05:39:56 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1 Doesn't seem like it ould be to hard to just leave the note you are responding to so it would all make sense to the rest of us. John W KR-2S RW-6 Kerrville, Tx jandd@maverickbbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Langford To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 9:28 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Name and Location >Mark Jones wrote: > >> PLEASE, when you place a post on the net, at the end, state your name, >> location as in city and state, your e-mail address and web site address > >Hell, I'd just like to see a clue as to what some of these guys are replying >to (since nothing is quoted above OR below. It doesn't help me a WHOLE lot >to know that somebody agrees with something that somebody said, but it >REALLY doesn't help when I don't even know WHAT it is that he agrees with... > >Mark Langford (needs a vacation), Huntsville, Alabama >mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Engine options From: RFG842@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 06:58:45 EDT X-Message-Number: 2 I'm courious; 29 gallons of fuel? Over 8 hours worth? I admit that I've had to land below minimums when the gauges read empty and I wish I'd have had a tanker truck in the air, but who can stay in a KR cockpit for 8 hours? Bob ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: VW Heads From: "fly" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:05:06 +1200 X-Message-Number: 3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEFFCE.C0475A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know where I can get two 044 VW heads. The compression and = leak down tests were on the limit and after removal of both heads they = were both found to be badly cracked and beyond repair. Have contacted = Great Planes twice but never get a reply. Any other suggestions? = Thanks.......Dave... Email: fly@paradise.net.nz Pictures: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~fly ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEFFCE.C0475A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know where I can get two = 044 VW heads.=20 The compression and leak down tests were on the limit and after removal = of both=20 heads they were both found to be badly cracked and beyond repair. Have = contacted=20 Great Planes twice but never get a reply. Any other suggestions? =20 Thanks.......Dave...

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------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEFFCE.C0475A00-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? From: "Mark Langford" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 06:39:48 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4 Gideon wrote: > This link for removable KR wings does not work. Is it correct? Part of it was. It should be http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/owings.html . But the wing attachment is per the plans (and removable, if you've got the time), so there's nothing particularly revolutionary about that. Haris was just pointing out the potential for adding a joint to the aileron mechanism. I'll be updating this page substantially soon, since a lot of progress has been made since then... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: VW Heads From: "Mark Langford" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 06:43:11 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5 Dave wrote: >Does anyone know where I can get two 044 VW heads? Visit CB Performance at http://www.cbperformance.com/ . They have as good a price as you'll find, and they will almost certainly be in stock. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Name and Location From: Steven Eberhart Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:28:44 -0500 (CDT) X-Message-Number: 6 On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, John Weikel wrote: > Doesn't seem like it ould be to hard to just leave the note you are > responding to so it would all make sense to the rest of us. > John W As soon as you start leaving in the complete message you are responding to the net moms will remind you to snip out all but the relevant parts. You just can't win :-) Steve Eberhart Evansville, IN - mailto:newtech@newtech.com THE WING FLIES! - http://www.newtech.com/nlf for info on the new, flight tested, KRnet/UIUC airfoils. Good job KRnet, you can be proud of your contribution to Sport Aviation. Special thanks to Dr. Ashok Gopalarathnam and Dr. Michael Selig for some great Sport Aviation airfoils. One test is worth a thousand expert opinions but a thousand opinions are easier to get. --plagiarized from an unknown author All information, in any of my aircraft related correspondence, is strictly food for thought requiring additional, qualified, engineering analysis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Are KR-2 wings removable ? From: "Richard Parker" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 05:31:08 PDT X-Message-Number: 7 If you are interested in spending a little bit more money I have a friend who just lost his medical and is selling his brand new Pulsar quick build kit. All composite -200mph. He hasnt done anything to it yet except take it out of the bax and inventory the parts. He has all the parts including a brand new Rotax 912 with additional high performance pistons to bring it up to 100 hp. The wings slide in and out of the fuselage and have 2 pins that connect it together. takes about 5 minutes. (He offered it to me for a great price and offered 0% financing as well so I'm trying to come up with a strategy to approach my wife with.) I'll feel guilty if I give up on my KR to attack the Pulsar. Rich Parker Peterborough NH >From: "Mark Langford" >Shreyans Shah wrote: > > > I am looking for a homebuilt which I can build and keep in my two car > > garage space. It should have removable wings so that I can trailer it to > > the airport, assemble & fly it and on returning, remove the wings and > > trailor it back to garage. > >Since nobody else really answered this, I'll give it a stab. I've watched >several people put their wings on KR's, and it usually takes about 2 hours. >I would think that the wing attach fittings would wear a little each time >this ordeal is undertaken. I think that most KR pilots would shudder at >the >thought of removing and installing their wings each time they want to fly. >R.W. Moore (rwmoore@alltel.net) sells a folding wing kit that might do what >you want, but the stock system is not user friendly, and is certainly not >something you'd want to spend your time doing every weekend... > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama >mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: richontheroad@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: primer for civilized list behavior From: "Mark Langford" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:40:56 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8 KRNetHeads, You guys should thank me for deleting the long-winded scorching email that I just completed (BEFORE it was sent). I know that our members are not inconsiderate or thoughtless, so it must be that they are merely uninformed. So I offer the following assistance: We all use different email applications, and sure enough, we can usually dig around long enough to figure out the originator's email address. Personally I use Outlook Express. It's free and comes with Microsoft Explorer 5 and works just great. But if I hit "reply" to a message it goes back to KRNet, not to the originator of the post. To get the originator's email address, I have to right click on the post, pick "properties" and under the "details" tab I'll find a page of computer garbarge that will eventually reveal the sender's address (after a diligent search). On the other hand, if the sender had set up his "signature" to automatically add his name, email address, and global location (address) to the bottom of each email, I wouldn't have to do that. And once the originator spent that few minutes creating his signature, he would never have to mess with it again either. There are also settings which enable including the original post in the reply. If you set it up that way, all you have to do is delete most of the original message, leaving just enough there to remind us what it is you're replying to (or WHO had the 29 gallons of fuel), and add your comments below. Cutting and pasting is also apparently something we're not getting the grasp of. The following is true for most Windows compatible applications. Using the mouse put the cursor to the left of a sentence. Press the left mouse button and slide the cursor to the right while the button is pressed and the text will turn blue (or otherwise highlight somehow). When you've got it all highlighted, release the left mouse button and press the Control (Ctrl) key and the C key at the same time (Ctrl + C) to copy it. Move the cursor somewhere else and use Ctrl + V to insert the copied text. Ctrl + X "cuts" or deletes highlighted text (or once highlighted, the delete key will delete it). If you can build an airplane, you can probably do this. I know that when you're reading your email and simply respond "I agree with you with Mike, you're dead on, buddy" that you know exactly what you're replying to, but the rest of us are probably clueless, since we read Mikes's original post hours or days ago. Again, this is a setting that some email applications allow you to set up either way. It's possible that the worst offenders have theirs set so that replies "nest" themselves under the original post (like News readers do), which would explain why they see no problem with it. Mine is set up (and it's the default) so that email stacks up as it comes in, unrelated to other previous posts. I like it this way, because I don't ever miss anything. If I had it set up the other way, new comments to older mail would float so far up the list I'd never notice it. For some reason I'd like to think that I've at least started to read every message ever sent to KRNet, even if I don't remember them a few minutes later. I realize that applications are different (and if it's text based, you have my condolences), and that these rules are different for each application. I only ask that you spend a few minutes clicking on every single button in your email application, and figure out how to keep from inconveniencing 450 people every time you post to KRNet. I will now receive several private messages that I should "take a break", "get the digest" or just "chill out" for a while. But I would like to think that my bitch sessions are at least partly responsible for keeping KRNet the kind of high quality list that it really is. For those who didn't take the hint from this, next week we'll cover how to unplug your modem from the wall... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Off Topic (Endurance) From: Bud Martin Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:33:18 -0600 X-Message-Number: 9 I recall spending 1400 hours--7 to12 at a time in less space than a KR cockpit--riding in the nose of a B-47. Lots of truck drivers cruise the Interstates for more than 8 hours (illegally, I think). Just a comment ... . As for landing below minimums, a wise (safe) pilot would have diverted when it became apparent fuel might become critical. You probably wouldn't do that again--correct? RFG842@aol.com wrote: > I'm courious; 29 gallons of fuel? Over 8 hours worth? > > I admit that I've had to land below minimums when the gauges read empty and I > wish I'd have had a tanker truck in the air, but who can stay in a KR cockpit > for 8 hours? > > Bob > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: budm303@earthlink.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Off Topic (Endurance) From: Tlongcrier@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:23:46 EDT X-Message-Number: 10 In a message dated 9/15/99 9:51:43 AM Central Daylight Time, budm303@earthlink.net writes: << but who can stay in a KR cockpit > for 8 hours? >> An ingenious range extender, at an attractive price? A Mason fruit jar...or two? <> Relief Tube? B-17's had 'em. Some combat missions lasted over 8 hours. Of course the cockpit of a KR 2 is not really conducive to using them. You could tie a string around "it". Another good idea for retrieving things and bringing them out in the open. Sorry. Couldn"t help it. Just a little mirth for a sometimes boring day? Annomous ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: VW Heads From: "BillStarrs" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:16:23 -0700 X-Message-Number: 11 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BF003D.4AEE4EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try Revemaster Aviation in Calif . They are great to deal with. Bill Starrs,Prescott, AZ -----Original Message----- From: fly To: KR-net users group Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 4:30 AM Subject: [kr-net] VW Heads =20 =20 Does anyone know where I can get two 044 VW heads. The compression = and leak down tests were on the limit and after removal of both heads = they were both found to be badly cracked and beyond repair. Have = contacted Great Planes twice but never get a reply. Any other = suggestions? Thanks.......Dave... =20 Email: fly@paradise.net.nz Pictures: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~fly ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BF003D.4AEE4EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Try Revemaster Aviation in Calif . They are = great to=20 deal with.
Bill Starrs,Prescott, AZ
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 fly <fly@paradise.net.nz>
To:= =20 KR-net users group <kr-net@telelists.com>
D= ate:=20 Wednesday, September 15, 1999 4:30 AM
Subject: = [kr-net] VW=20 Heads

Does anyone know where I can get = two 044 VW=20 heads. The compression and leak down tests were on the limit and = after=20 removal of both heads they were both found to be badly cracked and = beyond=20 repair. Have contacted Great Planes twice but never get a reply. Any = other=20 suggestions?  Thanks.......Dave...

Email:  fly@paradise.net.nz
Pictures:&= nbsp;=20 http://homepages.paradise.= net.nz/~fly
------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BF003D.4AEE4EC0-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: vw engine mount From: "Henning Mortensen" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:39:02 PDT X-Message-Number: 12 For Sale one vw engine mount with bushings I have a revmaster and it doesn't fit. To check if it will fit your engine, get the measurements from the plans if the mount detailed in the plans would work for you then this one will too. Make me an offer email me directly at mailto> henning_kr2@hotmail.com Henning Mortensen KR2 Regina Sk Canada ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KR Ignition From: "gideon" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:33:28 +0200 X-Message-Number: 13 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BEFFC1.F31715E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am converting my KR to dual low voltage electronic ignition with = single HT leads and plugs from the original 4012 Slick(coil has expired and couldnt find replacement in South = Africa).Pickups and CDI from CB 750 Honda ignition with autoadvance on = back ignition and front ignition set to 25 degrees BTDC. New Slick 4312 with our exchange rate extremely pricy. Any thoughts/experience please. Gideon gideon@eci.co.za Queenstown South Africa. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BEFFC1.F31715E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am converting my KR to dual low = voltage=20 electronic ignition with single HT leads and plugs from the original=20 4012
Slick(coil has expired and couldnt = find=20 replacement in South Africa).Pickups and CDI from CB 750 Honda ignition = with=20 autoadvance on back ignition and front ignition set to 25 degrees=20 BTDC.
 
New Slick 4312 with our exchange = rate extremely=20 pricy.
 
Any thoughts/experience = please.
 
Gideon
gideon@eci.co.za
Queenstown South=20 Africa.
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BEFFC1.F31715E0-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Engine options From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:01:32 EDT X-Message-Number: 14 Mike, my "2" is close to yours. Go with a 2180, no more pitch in the prop, and I think you'll be pleased with how she flys. I'm running a 2180, 52/46 prop. With two onboard I climb at 4 to 5 hundred fpm on a hot day. My empty weight is 613lbs. It's possible you are running too much pitch in your prop. What is your static, top, and cruise rpm? Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: VW Heads From: Mike Mims Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:29:50 -0700 X-Message-Number: 15 > fly wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can get two 044 VW heads. >>> There must be a million places here in Southern California that can get you these heads. Can you get your hands on a copy of HotVWs magazine? If not let me know and I will send you one. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Engine options From: Mike Mims Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:36:20 -0700 X-Message-Number: 16 RFG842@aol.com wrote: > > I'm courious; 29 gallons of fuel? Over 8 hours worth?>>> Its possible that he was thinking about the future when he built his tanks. 29 gallons is exactly what I have in my KR and in my situation as well as others with larger engines that's hardly 8 hours worth. More like 3.5 hours. Besides just because you have the capacity doesn't mean you have to use it. The C-207s I used to fly had long range tanks and if I new I would be hauling light loads all day I would just top it off. Kinda nice not having to stop for fuel during the job. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Name and Location From: Mark Jones Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:51:52 -0500 X-Message-Number: 17 Michael Taglieri wrote: > Doesn't the header automatically give the e-mail address, or do some > people here have systems that don't let you read the header? > > Mike Taglieri > Mike, yes it usually is inb the header but it is much clearer to all if > you place it below your name. By the way, where are you located? I was just making a suggestion I feel everyone would benefit from. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI flykr2s@execpc.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: High fuel burn From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:25:18 EDT X-Message-Number: 18 Mike Mims- what kind of gas hog engine are you planing to use that would only get 3 1/2 hrs on 29gals of fuel? That's a fuel burn of a O320 at 75%. Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: High fuel burn From: Mike Mims Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:26:58 -0700 X-Message-Number: 19 GARYKR2@cs.com wrote: > > Mike Mims- what kind of gas hog engine are you planing to use that > would only get 3 1/2 hrs on 29gals of fuel? That's a fuel burn of a O320 at > 75%. > Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. > garykr2@cs.com Hey!! No reference to Swine of any kind unless its on a positive note!! A lycoming O-290 of a 130hp. Well now you know why its called the Pig huh? Regardless, get used to looking at my plane from the rear cuz I am shooting for 200 mph. PS that fuel burn is at 100%, probably more like 6.5gph at cruise. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Name and Location From: David Moore Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:42:15 -0700 X-Message-Number: 20 Mark, It would be helpful if people would put mailto: in front of their e-mail address. This allows direct contact to the person and might cause a little less confusion and personal messages being posted to KRnet. Dave Moore At 09:05 PM 9/14/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Hi KR Heads, > >I would like to make a suggestion to all who post to the KR Net! > >PLEASE, when you place a post on the net, at the end, state your name, >location as in city and state, your e-mail address and web site address >if you have one. This would be greatly appreciated by everyone! This >allows everyone to know if there are builders or fliers in their area >and also gives anyone your e-mail who would like to contact you >directly. > >This has been suggested before yet doesn't seem to catch on with >everyone. Personally, I would like to know who's out there and their >location. > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) >Waukesha, WI >flykr2s@execpc.com >http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage David Moore mailto:dgmoore1@gte.net Henderson, Nevada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Info from Gathering From: "Rex T. Ellington" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:19:25 -0500 X-Message-Number: 21 Netters, Hi, The Gathering is almost upon us. This means that we who cannot attend will be thirsting for information and afraid we will lose out unless others will extend themselves, pull things together, and put it out on the net. Case 1: For those with standard KR2S spars, which of the new airfoils can be used. As I understand it, this may be the case with Troy's bird and he used the 5046. Correct?? What have been the results?? Taxiing crosswind, takeoff and climb, cruise, full power, stalls, turns, what engine? Comments by others. Case2: GPASC rear end forward engine. How many installed so far, weight dressed out -compared to std. 2180, maintenance info, torque dampner performance?? What carbs used to get away from updraft type. What props have been tried?? Mark posted a sketch of locating the new wings in the fuselage, but I could not read it. Hope he or someone can repeat it before I set the bottom of my fuselage. Thanks very very much. Rex Ellington mailto: retcg@telepath.com Norman OK ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Spars for new airfoil (was Info from Gathering) From: Mike Mims Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:31:34 -0700 X-Message-Number: 22 "Rex T. Ellington" wrote: > > > Mark posted a sketch of locating the new wings in > the fuselage, but I could not read it. Hope he or > someone can repeat it before I set the bottom of > my fuselage. Rex, if you haven't mounted your spars yet you can add material to the tops and bottoms to make them tall enough for the better of the new airfoils. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Info from Gathering From: "Mark Langford" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:24:19 -0500 X-Message-Number: 23 Rex Ellington wrote: > Case 1: For those with standard KR2S spars, which > of the new airfoils can be used. As I understand it, > this may be the case with Troy's bird and he used > the 5046. Correct?? The AS5046 is the one to use for stock spars. Same planform, same aft spar height (3.93", main spar grows slightly to 7.32"), but stock height spars will work fine. Troy loves the new wing and can't say enough about how much better his plane flies, even though the CG is unchanged. Better in all respects, same stall speed, higher top speed, gentle stall. He'll have much more to say at the Gathering, as he gets more time in . He has a 2180 Revmaster, more or less. No GPASC rear drive units had been sold as of August, so none have been installed. The sketch of the bottom of the fuselage (and how it would need to change) and the AS5048 wing (which I'd recommend) is at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/48_fuse.jpg and shows the main spar heights for the AS5048 airfoil as well. I tried to send this directly to you, but it came back undeliverable. Are you sure your "reply to" address is correct? Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Room with a view From: HAshraf@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:00:35 EDT X-Message-Number: 24 Well gang due to a family commitment I will have to forego the trip to the gathering. I will be releasing the room (single bedroom) by the end of this week. Please mail be the if any one wants to rent it. I'll call the hotel and release it in your name. I got the KR group rate (I think $57/night) Haris Ashraf Working on spars, getting ready to put Fiberglass parts on. hashraf@aol.com http://members.aol.com/hashraf/KR2S.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Avionics From: "Steven & Anita Oliver" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:03:06 -0600 X-Message-Number: 25 I told them what you wanted and they laught at me, 2 1/2 in gyro cost major bucks, you could get a 3 in much cheaper. Sorry I couldn't help Steve Oliver -----Original Message----- From: HAshraf@aol.com To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 10:24 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Avionics >In a message dated 99-08-31 22:08:53 EDT, you write: > ><< If any body is interested I could see about > getting some price quotes, >> > >There are some people, including me, looking for 2.5" gyros. I would want an >electric one. > >Haris > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: saoliver@olp.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Name and Location From: Michael Taglieri Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:29:37 -0400 X-Message-Number: 26 I'm in New York City. I suppose if I were offering a plane for sale, etc., I'd put my location, but it doesn't seem worth the trouble otherwise. I would have to type it in manually each time. Mike Taglieri >> Doesn't the header automatically give the e-mail address, or do some >> people here have systems that don't let you read the header? >> >> Mike Taglieri > >> Mike, yes it usually is inb the header but it is much clearer to >all if >> you place it below your name. By the way, where are you located? > >I was just making a suggestion I feel everyone would benefit from. > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) >Waukesha, WI >flykr2s@execpc.com >http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: miket_nyc@juno.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Gear Brackets From: "Stefan B." Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:52:52 +0100 X-Message-Number: 27 Mike and Haris, I was off for a day. Thanks for your answers. In France the kits were certified for only 50 hours! You can imagine a guy who spends more than US$120,000 for a Lancair and he could fly it only for 50 hours!!! Now it changes and there is a new (European) kit certification but the things are not yet very clear. Mike, thanks a lot for your proposal. I will call DGAC and I will see if I could use some brackets "born in USA" (there is also the French customs problem). So, I have to see which is the best solution for me - the all composite or the composite/metal gear. Stefan. --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com