From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 12:12 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: October 09, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Saturday, October 09, 1999. 1. Brake question 2. Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness 3. Re: Brake question 4. Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness 5. Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness 6. Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness 7. Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness 8. Re: Burger time--NO 9. Re: Burger time--NO 10. Re: Burger time--NO (Sorry!!) 11. Gathering Forum video deal 12. Re: Burger time--NO 13. Re: Burger time--NO "CHELATION THERAPY" 14. Re: Looking for some KR-1 (unused) plans 15. Re: Burger time--NO "CHELATION THERAPY" 16. Re: Burger time--NO "CHELATION THERAPY" 17. KR Aircraft/People at SW Regional Fly-In 18. Re: Gathering Forum video deal 19. Use of Oil Cooler as Source For Carb Heat 20. EAA East Coast Fly In 21. Re: Use of Oil Cooler as Source For Carb Heat 22. Re: Joining the ranks....Finally! 23. Re: Brake question 24. Re: Joining the ranks....Finally! 25. Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness 26. Re: KR Aircraft/People at SW Regional Fly-In 27. Re: Joining the ranks....Finally! 28. Re: Joining the ranks....Finally! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Brake question From: Kr2dream@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:15:18 EDT X-Message-Number: 1 I have a problem which is probably just my lack of knowledge. I have the Cleveland brakes supplied by RR and tried to bleed the systems this morning. On the forward stroke of the brake pedal fluid goes into the line nicely. On the reverse stroke fluid squirts out of the plug that is in the top of the reservoir housing. Do I just have the housing too full? The plug in the filler has a vent hole in it. If anyone has simple instructions for bleeding the brakes, please e-mail me off the net to minimize traffic. Thanks Bob Lasecki KR2DREAM@AOL.COM Frustrated in Chicago ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness From: Mike Mims Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 07:42:40 -0700 X-Message-Number: 2 smithr wrote: > > I just glassed my elevator upper surface with aeropoxy using 1 bid 5.6oz glass > and 1 layer of 1.4 oz. glass. No glass on bottom yet. Layup looks great! > Aeropoxy is good stuff! What you have encountered is normal. You need to bondo a straight board or something to the glassed side to keep things straight while you glass the second side. The most widely used method of making trailing edges on composite aircraft is shown on my web site at: http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/w31.jpg There are other ways to do it but this is the one Rutan uses and if its good enough for Rutan,.. :o) -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://www.evansville.net/~boeing/project_viking/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Brake question From: Mike Mims Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 07:54:24 -0700 X-Message-Number: 3 Kr2dream@aol.com wrote: > The plug in the filler has a vent hole in it. If anyone has simple instructions for bleeding > the brakes, please e-mail me off the net to minimize traffic.>>> Yes its normal to have a little seepage on those master cylinders that have the vertical reservoir when they are over filled. As far as bleeding goes, aircraft brakes are bled from the bottom up. That's to say you find yourself a small pump that allows you to apply brake fluid at the bleeder on the brake caliper. This allows you to pump new fluid up and into the master cylinders. A small oil can with a piece of tubing on it works great for your "brake bleeding pump". I sent this to the net because its something I thought everyone might want to hear?!? -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://www.evansville.net/~boeing/project_viking/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness From: Mike Mims Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 07:56:43 -0700 X-Message-Number: 4 Mike Mims wrote: > > There are other ways to do it but this is the one Rutan uses and if its > good enough for Rutan,.. :o) > After reading some of the other responses I just wanted to point out that using this method no flox is used, only micro. Like I said there are a hundred ways to do this. Flox will add much more weight right where you don't want it. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://www.evansville.net/~boeing/project_viking/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:37:53 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5 Mike wrote: > After reading some of the other responses I just wanted to point out > that using this method no flox is used, only micro. Like I said there > are a hundred ways to do this. Flox will add much more weight right > where you don't want it. I've always used a flox and micro mixture for this job, except for my most recent ailerons. I decided to be smarter and just use micro to reduce counterbalance weight. When I cut the aft edge off straight, the micro cracked in many places (and the integrity of my trailing edge was history) despite my careful preparation of the carbon fiber and brushing with epoxy before applying the micro. In retropect, I should have sanded the edge straight rather than jigsawing it, but I had 2 inches of carbon fiber hanging out there for good measure, and I didn't want to make a day of it. I spent an hour cleaning all of the micro out with a wire brush on a dremel tool, and replaced it with my usual flox/micro mix, clamped between two aluminum angles. It's now up to my standards. The rest of you all certainly free to do this the way you want to, and if it works for Rutan, it will almost certainly work for you. But that big chunk of fragile micro sitting back there with nothing but a coat of paint on top doesn't look long for this world to me. Mine is encased in carbon fiber, top and bottom, which are joined with flox at the very tip. I'm not usually one to quote from the manual, but on page 51 (8.17), "To stiffen the thin trailing edges, scrape out the foam back 1/2" and fill the void with flox and epoxy just before glassing". Yes, I did read the manual several times. I'm just telling you how I did it. I wouldn't do anything the way I did it just because that's the way I did it. Many of the methods I've adopted come from my own personal experience. You'll have to make up your own minds, or follow the plans if you don't trust your own judgement. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness From: Steven Eberhart Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 11:39:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Message-Number: 6 On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Mark Langford wrote: > Mike wrote: > > > After reading some of the other responses I just wanted to point out > > that using this method no flox is used, only micro. Like I said there > > are a hundred ways to do this. Flox will add much more weight right > > where you don't want it. > > I've always used a flox and micro mixture for this job, except for my most > recent ailerons. I decided to be smarter and just use micro to reduce > counterbalance weight. When I cut the aft edge off straight, the micro > cracked in many places (and the integrity of my trailing edge was history) [snip] There are as many ways to do something as there are people doing it. On the wind tunel wings I used a variation of the Rutan method with good results. After the skins are on I bonded a piece of extruded aluminum L angle in front of the trailing edge as a guide for my formica counter top router. I used the router to trim the trailing edge , works great. I later filled the grove at the TE with micro - much easier to fill with the TE cut first. No chance of damaging it. As Dana would say, the router is the way to go. Steve Eberhart mailto:newtech@newtech.com THE WING FLIES! - http://www.newtech.com/nlf for info on the new, flight tested, KRnet/UIUC airfoils. Good job KRnet, you can be proud of your contribution to Sport Aviation. Special thanks to Dr. Ashok Gopalarathnam and Dr. Michael Selig for some great Sport Aviation airfoils. One test is worth a thousand expert opinions but a thousand opinions are easier to get. --plagiarized from an unknown author All information, in any of my aircraft related correspondence, is strictly food for thought requiring additional, qualified, engineering analysis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness From: "w.g. kirkland" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:33:12 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7 Try balsa wood. Trailing edge shapes can bought from hobby shops or form your own. The balsa wood absorbs epoxy and becomes very stiff when set between the layers of fiberglass. W.G. KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: Austin Clark > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness > Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 5:37 PM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: smithr > To: KR-net users group > Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 4:10 PM > Subject: [kr-net] elevator trailing edge stiffness > > > >After cure and sanding off the bottom urethane I noticed that the trailing > edge, > >which is now very thin, is not very rigid and can be easily twisted with my > >hands. > > >Bob Smith, making progress one day at a time > > Bob, > > I had the same problem and I think several other builders also. There > should be a thread on this subject in the archives. My solution was to lay > in about a 1" wide strip of thin spruce. When I built my rudder, I used a > strip of 3/32 mahogany, but it was to flexible and did not work as well as > the spruce. > > Austin Clark > KR2S > Pascagoula MS > www.datasync.com/~itac/ > itac@datasync.com > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kirkland@vianet.on.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Burger time--NO From: "w.g. kirkland" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:42:07 -0400 X-Message-Number: 8 Bob : Been there done that-After angioplasty they make you wait six months then u have to do a treadmill test every year. Expensive but worth it. I have an additional problem because I have a mobility handicapp so doing the treadmill test is a bitch. Don't give up. It can be done. Just rquires persitence or stuborness. ps. My cardiologist recommends a glass of red wine or two per day. Hard to swallow but I persist :0) W.G. KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: Bobby Muse > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Re: Burger time--NO > Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 11:09 PM > > At 03:55 PM 10/08/1999 -0400, you wrote: > > I am writing this with the hope that it might save some of you the same > fate. > >Prevention is easier than cure. My FAA medical just became very difficult to > >obtain. > > > >I am 52 yrs old. Last February I found out I had 2 coronary arteries over > 80% > >clogged and had to have them opened by angioplasty. I had no family > history of > >coronary artery disease and my blood pressure and cholesterol were always > below > >normal. I was always active and in fact was exercising aerobics last > December. > > > >This disease came without warning. I conclude that it was mostly my lousy > diet > >that did me in. I was a regular junk-food junkie: cheeseburgers, fries, > pizza, > >cakes, pies etc. > > > >So don't think that you are immune to the problem. I could have avoided it > if I > >was smart. (By the way it is a predominantly male problem). I now eat buffalo > >burgers and skip the cheese and fries. > > > >I am now feeling great and reapplied for my medical last week with a > mountain of > >paperwork to prove that I am now OK. I think it will be approved. So I > continue > >to build my KR > > > >"all things in moderation" > > > >Bob Smith, Albany, NY > > > > > > Bob, Just to let you.... My Dad had Triple-Bypass surgery in 1981, is 78 > years old and just flew N28RM to the Kentucky 1999 KR Gathering and won > the oldest KR pilot at the Gathering trophy. > > It has not been easy for him since 1981 but It has been wroth it. > > Please keep up the the fight! > > > > > Bobby Muse > N122B - Wimberley, TX > mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kirkland@vianet.on.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Burger time--NO From: Mike Mims Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 09:45:27 -0700 X-Message-Number: 9 "w.g. kirkland" wrote: > My cardiologist recommends a glass of red wine or two per day. Hard to swallow but I persist :0) > W.G. KIRKLAND Dude you aint drinking the right wine then! ;o) Try a glass or Merlot like the one at the link below: http://www.wine.com/sku/wine_sku.jsp?sku=0011527 or if you have money to blow on your prescription try: http://www.wine.com/sku/wine_sku.jsp?sku=0022806 -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://www.evansville.net/~boeing/project_viking/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Burger time--NO (Sorry!!) From: Mike Mims Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 09:46:45 -0700 X-Message-Number: 10 That was supposed to go direct to Mr Kirkland, sorry! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://www.evansville.net/~boeing/project_viking/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Gathering Forum video deal From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:03:10 -0500 X-Message-Number: 11 VideoHeads, So far, I've sold (but not shipped) a grand total of 4 Gathering Forum videos for $25, and I suspect that will be just about it. I guess the price was too steep. It's not even worth the trouble of doing it, and making copies uses BOTH of my VCRs for 6 hours at a time. But I really think KR builders need to see these forums, which include Composites (me and Dr. Dean), Smooth Prime demo (Dana Overall) taped by Trent Flemming, the new airfoil (Steve Eberhart and Dr. Ashok G), Great Plains Aircraft VW engines (Steve Bennett), the Corvair engine conversion (William Wynne) and First Flight (Rick Junkin). There's also some nice video by Mark Jones of flying KRs and Lake Barkley to finish out the 6 hour tape. So I've come up with another plan which allows more builders to see the the Forums, AND keeps me from having to make a bunch more of these stinkin' tapes. How about I make a list of folks who want to "borrow" the tape for 2 or 3 days. Then I send several tapes around with several lists enclosed (depending on how many people sign up). You get the tape, watch it, record it if you want, send it to the next guy on the list within a few days (Priority Mail, for $3.20), and send me a check for $10 for my trouble. The $10 does 2 things. It will prevent 460 people from saying "add me to the list" when many might not even care enough to watch it, and it helps me pay for time I have involved in this thing, as well as may eventually pay for the electronic epoxy scales that I trashed at the Gathering. I'm not going to volunteer to make any more copies of the tape, since it's a real pain, and anybody that really wanted one would have antied up the $25 already. By the way, those four guys will be at the top of the list, and will get the tapes first, but for only $10. The quality of these tapes is nowhere near what Video Bob does (after 2 dubbings) but they're not as bad as I originally thought they'd be. If you don't have time to watch it, or can't get it back in the mail in under 3 days, please don't get on the list. To get on the list, email me directly by clicking on mailto:langford@hiwaay.net or cutting and pasting langford@hiwaay.net into the TO box (NOT to KRNet) . Send me a check when you send the video to the next guy on the list. This will be the last mention of this on KRNet, I hope... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Burger time--NO From: "Edwin Blocher" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 15:00:51 -0500 X-Message-Number: 12 I had as troke in June 1990 carotid artery surgery a month later. I did not fly or report this to FAA until I had fully recovered. In 9+ years FAA has required one stress test, two EKGs, and two echo sounds .(All of which were covered by BC&BS) My personal physitian who is also my ME looks out for me. He has me taking Folic Acid, Vitamin E to keep my arteries clear and an Aspirn a day for my heart. I also take medication to control my Blood Pressure. Like the 93 year old pilot at Oshkosh said "I,m goint to be flying when I'm 107 Years old or die trying" ED -----Original Message----- From: smithr To: KR-net users group Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 4:37 PM Subject: [kr-net] Burger time--NO > I am writing this with the hope that it might save some of you the same fate. >Prevention is easier than cure. My FAA medical just became very difficult to >obtain. > >I am 52 yrs old. Last February I found out I had 2 coronary arteries over 80% >clogged and had to have them opened by angioplasty. I had no family history of >coronary artery disease and my blood pressure and cholesterol were always below >normal. I was always active and in fact was exercising aerobics last December. > >This disease came without warning. I conclude that it was mostly my lousy diet >that did me in. I was a regular junk-food junkie: cheeseburgers, fries, pizza, >cakes, pies etc. > >So don't think that you are immune to the problem. I could have avoided it if I >was smart. (By the way it is a predominantly male problem). I now eat buffalo >burgers and skip the cheese and fries. > >I am now feeling great and reapplied for my medical last week with a mountain of >paperwork to prove that I am now OK. I think it will be approved. So I continue >to build my KR > >"all things in moderation" > >Bob Smith, Albany, NY > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: ed_blocher@email.msn.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Burger time--NO "CHELATION THERAPY" From: "Capps Family" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 16:23:23 -0500 X-Message-Number: 13 ED, My grand-father who has now reached the age of 83 years old, has a history of heart disease. He has had by-pass surgery, he has suffered from heart attack(s) and a stroke. I have seen him and many other people near death do to vascular and heart related disease. I know that his life was extend by the use of a treatment called "CHELATION THERAPY" (key-lation). As a result of him taken these treatment(s), he no longer complains of pain in his hands and legs, he no longer takes an army of pills a-day, but instead takes only 2-aspirins daily. And above all, he is very active and able to take care of himself. I would highly recommend that you search locally for a doctor that has experience with administering this treatment and take a minimum of 20 -30 treatments. I must also point out that this treatment is not only for the people that are know to have heart disease, but could be used as a preventative maintenance for those at high risk of developing heart disease. Now most treatments run about $100.00 each. Some insurance plans won't cover the treatments. However, when my grandfathers insurer refused to pay for the treatments, I informed them of the cost to have him treat surgically at hospital, a cost of between $30,000 to 60,000 thousand dollars, or to pay for his Chelation treatments at a cost of between $3000.00 and $6000.00 dollars. Funny, but they seem to understand this type of math better, and choose the latter. I have included some information regarding Chelation Therapy, but I would ask that you talk to people(s) local to you that have used this treatment, and find a doctor close to your home that can administer it. Blue Skies; Larry WHAT IS CHELATION THERAPY? Chelation therapy is a safe, effective and non-invasive approach to ameliorating (amending) the effects of arteriosclerosis and poor circulation. The word CHELATION derives from the Greek word chele, which is the claw of a crab or lobsters. Chelation is thus the natural process of a pincer-like binding of metallic ions to the chelating substance. An example of a natural chelating agents is: Hemoglobin Chlorophyll The synthetic chelator, EDTA (ethylene-diamine-tetra-acetic acid), an amino acid, is used in chelation therapy. HOW CHELATION WORKS The EDTA pulls abnormal metal ions out of the body, reducing the production of free radicals. A free radical is an oxygen molecule with an odd number of electrons in an outer orbital ring of one of its atoms. This characteristic makes the free radical violently reactive with almost any and every cell structure, leading to damage and eventually to degenerative disease processes such as arteriosclerosis. By significantly reducing these reactions, chelation therapy allows the body to heal itself and reverse the disease processes. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has verified that EDTA is a safe substance. WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF CHELATION THERAPY? An extensive body of medical research as well as clinical experience with more than 400,000 patients who have received over 6 million chelation treatments in the last 30 years indicates that this therapy can effectively treat: Coronary artery disease The symptoms of angina Peripheral arterial insufficiency (causing such symptoms as leg pain with exertion or skin ulcers) Decreased blood flow to the brain (cerebraln insufficiency) resulting in memory and other cognitive problems. Very often, coronary bypass surgery can be avoided with the use of chelation therapy. Besides, coronary bypass surgery is often not indicated and does not extend a patient's lifespan. HOW IS THE TREATMENT PERFORMED? A patient receives about 30 intravenous treatments with EDTA (more in severe cases). Each treatment consists of: A very tiny (25 gauge), needle into a vein usually on the patient's forearm or on the back of the hand. The EDTA, mixed with an infusion liquid, is allowed to run over a period of three hours During that time, the patient is seated in a comfortable lounge chair and may eat and drink, read a book, chat with other patients or medical staff and if necessary, get up and go to the restroom. It is a fairly comfortable procedure. WHAT THE STUDIES SHOW In a ten-year study undertaken by the Federal Government and conducted at 11 prominent medical centers, 780 heart patients, average age 51, were divided into two groups: Half received bypass operations while Half received medications and advice to start exercising, stop smoking and overeating and cut excess fat in their diets. After six years, 92 percent of the surgical patients and 90 percent of the medical patients are still alive. THEIR CONCLUSIONS These researchers concluded that an estimated 25,000 bypass operations could be eliminated each year. Dr. Eugene Braunwald, professor of cardiology at Harvard Medical School, thinks these estimations are actually too low... Certainly, considering the 1 to 5 percent mortality of the surgery in the best medical centers, it should be reserved for those with the worst disease. IS CHELATION THERAPY A RATIONAL ALTERNATIVE TO ANGIOPLASTY AND CORONARY ARTERY BYPASS GRAFT (C.A.B.G.) SURGERY? Yes. Except for a few very advanced cases, most people with Coronary Artery Disease (C.A.D.) can be treated with medications to reduce symptoms and the likelihood of a heart attack. At the same time, they can receive EDTA Chelation Therapy to reduce the underlying arterial blockages. Lifestyle changes, such as a healthy diet, exercise program and stress management all contribute to recovery. Eventually, medications can be tapered or even eliminated in some cases. Researchers have repeatedly pointed out the overuse of both C.A.B.G. surgery or angiography/angioplasty for C.A.D. Long term results are not better and patients are exposed to possible serious side effects. (See the Journal Heart 1997; 78; 584-86 and New England Journal of Medicine, June 18 1998, 338 (25)). ----- Original Message ----- From: Edwin Blocher To: KR-net users group Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 3:00 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Burger time--NO > I had as troke in June 1990 carotid artery surgery a month later. I did not > fly or report this to FAA until I had fully recovered. In 9+ years FAA has > required one stress test, two EKGs, and two echo sounds .(All of which were > covered by BC&BS) My personal physitian who is also my ME looks out for me. > He has me taking Folic Acid, Vitamin E to keep my arteries clear and an > Aspirn a day for my heart. I also take medication to control my Blood > Pressure. Like the 93 year old pilot at Oshkosh said "I,m goint to be flying > when I'm 107 Years old or die trying" > ED > -----Original Message----- > From: smithr > To: KR-net users group > Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 4:37 PM > Subject: [kr-net] Burger time--NO > > > > I am writing this with the hope that it might save some of you the same > fate. > >Prevention is easier than cure. My FAA medical just became very difficult > to > >obtain. > > > >I am 52 yrs old. Last February I found out I had 2 coronary arteries over > 80% > >clogged and had to have them opened by angioplasty. I had no family history > of > >coronary artery disease and my blood pressure and cholesterol were always > below > >normal. I was always active and in fact was exercising aerobics last > December. > > > >This disease came without warning. I conclude that it was mostly my lousy > diet > >that did me in. I was a regular junk-food junkie: cheeseburgers, fries, > pizza, > >cakes, pies etc. > > > >So don't think that you are immune to the problem. I could have avoided it > if I > >was smart. (By the way it is a predominantly male problem). I now eat > buffalo > >burgers and skip the cheese and fries. > > > >I am now feeling great and reapplied for my medical last week with a > mountain of > >paperwork to prove that I am now OK. I think it will be approved. So I > continue > >to build my KR > > > >"all things in moderation" > > > >Bob Smith, Albany, NY > > > > > > > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: ed_blocher@email.msn.com > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cappsfan@ameritech.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Looking for some KR-1 (unused) plans From: Greg S Martin Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:36:59 -0700 X-Message-Number: 14 Steve Glover Two atemps to 'e' you. Two returns. 'e' me direct and we communicate. Greg Martin, idrawtobuild@juno.com Happy building and/or flying Greg Martin Bakersfield, CA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Burger time--NO "CHELATION THERAPY" From: "Dean Collette" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 17:42:42 -0500 X-Message-Number: 15 Burgerheads; While I understand how this thread got it's start on KRNet (and thanks for the not-so-gentle reminder) I think we have gotten a bit off course here. The various diseases which may ground you, and their potential treatments really don't have a place in a forum such as this. If and when a patient is afflicted with a disease process - they need to persue the best course of therapy that is best for them. This means sitting down and discussing things with your doctor. If you don't like what he or she has to say - find a different one. You obviously have a computer - do a little research. But, before anybody goes rushing off on some weird-ass tangent with such things as chelation therapy, (Intravenous EDTA - you gotta be kidding me!?!) do yourself a favor, and talk to your doctor. With every proceedure, there are also alternatives, benefits and risks and you should be familiar with them BEFORE deciding on a course of therapy. Snake Oil is alive and well in 1999. Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Site at: http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Burger time--NO "CHELATION THERAPY" From: "Capps Family" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 18:45:25 -0500 X-Message-Number: 16 I do apologize, I did not mean for that to go public, but what I said was true. And let me say that although there are snake-oil sales men out there that one should be careful of; There is also license doctors in 1999, pushing pills and cutting into people for profit. Larrry A. Capps Naperville, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Collette To: KR-net users group Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 5:42 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Burger time--NO "CHELATION THERAPY" > Burgerheads; > > While I understand how this thread got it's start on KRNet (and thanks for > the not-so-gentle reminder) I think we have gotten a bit off course here. > The various diseases which may ground you, and their potential treatments > really don't have a place in a forum such as this. > > If and when a patient is afflicted with a disease process - they need to > persue the best course of therapy that is best for them. This means sitting > down and discussing things with your doctor. If you don't like what he or > she has to say - find a different one. You obviously have a computer - do a > little research. But, before anybody goes rushing off on some weird-ass > tangent with such things as chelation therapy, (Intravenous EDTA - you gotta > be kidding me!?!) do yourself a favor, and talk to your doctor. With every > proceedure, there are also alternatives, benefits and risks and you should > be familiar with them BEFORE deciding on a course of therapy. > > Snake Oil is alive and well in 1999. > > Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin > Mailto:drdean@execpc.com > Web Site at: http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cappsfan@ameritech.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KR Aircraft/People at SW Regional Fly-In From: "Walter Lounsbery" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:07:48 -0500 X-Message-Number: 17 Hi, Will there be any KRs at the SW Regional Fly-In this October 14-16 at Abilene, Texas? I would like to chat with some builders and especially get a cockpit checkout (I want to know where I will have to make adjustments to the plans...). Thanks! Walter Lounsbery POB 54266 Hurst, TX 76054 (817) 285-8520 Walt@Lounsbery.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Gathering Forum video deal From: "Richard Parker" Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 17:28:11 PDT X-Message-Number: 18 Thats a pretty good deal if 460 people send you $10 send it to me next and I'll copy it send you the 10 bucks and 458 people can get it from me at $5 each :-o Rich Parker >From: "Mark Langford" How about I make a list of folks who want to "borrow" the tape for 2 >or 3 days. Then I send several tapes around with several lists enclosed >(depending on how many people sign up). You get the tape, watch it, record >it if you want, send it to the next guy on the list within a few days >(Priority Mail, for $3.20), and send me a check for $10 for my trouble. >The >$10 does 2 things. It will prevent 460 people from saying "add me to the >list" when many might not even care enough to watch it, ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Use of Oil Cooler as Source For Carb Heat From: "John Weikel" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:34:09 -0500 X-Message-Number: 19 Has any of you ever used or considered using warm air from the oil cooler as a source of air for carb heat? The location of my oil cooler would make this very easy to do. I have no idea how hot the air needs to be for effective carb heat. Any ideas or thoughts on the subject would be appreciated. John W KR-2S Kerrville, Tx jandd@maverickbbs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: EAA East Coast Fly In From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:55:06 EDT X-Message-Number: 20 Wanted to give a quick report on the gathering at the New Garden Airport, south west of Phila, Pa. Jerry Wells and myself flew in around noon time, and were met with the normal crowd of lookers and questions. It took us almost an hour to get away from the planes, with all the people asking this and that( have to eat you know ). Then when we returned, it started all over again. Normal comments go like this: Look how small it is! That has a volkswagon in it! Does it realy fly with two people in it? ect; ect; ect; Met two gentelmen who built KRs some years ago, they were pleased to see one again( I guess it's a father thing). And the highlight of my day was to meet someone from the KR Net. I'm bad at remembering names, but he is a friend of Dana's and hooked him on the Beechcraft while flying to Sun&Fun. When it came time to leave, we checked in with the "AIRBOSS", and got cleared for our high speed pass. Someone else will have comment on how it looks and sounds. As always it was great fun, and met really nice people. A little side bar note. After our fly by, Jerry's 9yr old son flew the 1/2 hr leg home 'till we were in the pattern to land. And now wants his dad and I to build him a KR1 so he has it when he turns 16( we made a monster). Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Use of Oil Cooler as Source For Carb Heat From: Stickandrudder@cs.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:55:37 EDT X-Message-Number: 21 It would seem that a winding or two of oil cooler line wrapped about the carb body should do the trick. Why didn't Witchita think of this. Paul Derry, NH Stickandrudder@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Joining the ranks....Finally! From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:05:39 EDT X-Message-Number: 22 Happy to have you with us. I'm certian we will help you thru the "delivery of your baby". Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Brake question From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:16:55 EDT X-Message-Number: 23 I have been using this method for years, it's fast and easy. Or you could buy one of those brake bleeding setups the FEDS like to see and bleed your wallet dry. Gary Hinkle Middletown,Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Joining the ranks....Finally! From: CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:19:30 EDT X-Message-Number: 24 did the other 449 people enjoy that as much as i did, im sorry but if it doesn't pertain to kr construction, or safety i hate to have to waste my time to read please, do not send on net unless 450 people need to read it. thank you ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: elevator trailing edge stiffness From: Bobby Muse Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 21:35:03 -0500 X-Message-Number: 25 At 10:37 AM 10/09/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Mike wrote: > >> After reading some of the other responses I just wanted to point out >> that using this method no flox is used, only micro. Like I said there >> are a hundred ways to do this. Flox will add much more weight right >> where you don't want it. > >I've always used a flox and micro mixture for this job, except for my most >recent ailerons. > >>I'm not usually one to quote from the manual, but on page 51 (8.17), "To >stiffen the thin trailing edges, scrape out the foam back 1/2" and fill the >void with flox and epoxy just before glassing". Yes, I did read the manual >several times. > > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > I used flox for my trailing edges and it worked for me. If I had to do it over today, I would Balsa Wood instead of Flox. You can buy the Balsa already with some taper to it so that only a small amount of sanding on the Balsa would be needed. Go to any Model shop. Balsa is the strongest wood known to man based upon weight. Bobby Muse N122B - Wimberley, TX mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KR Aircraft/People at SW Regional Fly-In From: Bobby Muse Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 21:46:27 -0500 X-Message-Number: 26 At 07:07 PM 10/09/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, > > Will there be any KRs at the SW Regional Fly-In this October 14-16 at >Abilene, Texas? I would like to chat with some builders and especially get >a cockpit checkout (I want to know where I will have to make adjustments to >the plans...). > > Thanks! > >Walter Lounsbery > N122B and I will be there on Friday and Saturday. Does anyone know of a place to stay? Can I camp out? This will be my first trip to Abilene, TX. Bobby Muse N122B - Wimberley, TX mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Joining the ranks....Finally! From: "Steve Glover" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:57:11 X-Message-Number: 27 Sorry there Injun', I thought this was a forum for people to express their enthusiam for the KR's...I guess you lost yours, huh??? Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Joining the ranks....Finally! From: "Steve Glover" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:6:6 X-Message-Number: 28 Before I get flamed for the "Injun'" remark, I feel I am well qualified since I am Choctaw and Cherokee indian....not to mention the fact that I have no idea who the person is at the other end of the post... :) Steve --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com