From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 11:17 PM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: October 18, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Monday, October 18, 1999. 1. Wingsand feathers 2. Re: Engine Spacers 3. Re: Air Compressor Requirements 4. Flotsam & Jetsam 5. Flotsam & Jetsam - Admin Response 6. Re: Engine Spacers 7. KR-2 Crash 8. Re: KR-2 Crash 9. The KRNet Digest: More Filling, Less Waste 10. Think About This. 11. epoxy-vinyl ester 12. Switching horses mid stream 13. Status: Web Indexed Digest of KR-Net Messages 14. Crash link 15. Re: Triaxial cloth and such 16. New KR-2 crash link. 17. Duct Tape Residue 18. Re: Duct Tape Residue 19. Re: Duct Tape Residue 20. Re: Cuyuna cayoose (horse) 21. Re: kr-net digest: October 17, 1999 22. Re: Duct Tape Residue 23. Correction in order. 24. new keyboard 25. Re: Moving Horiz. Stabilizer Design (formerly "make vertical st... 26. Admin Update 27. Re: Correction in order. 28. Epoxy Questions ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Wingsand feathers From: esko.lempola@icl.fi Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 0:42:22 X-Message-Number: 1 Hello KRnetters! I have unfortunatelly been offline several months, so I don't have information about the success of the "new" wing. I have some questions about that. How have the test fligths gone? Where do I get the coordinates for the wing profile(s)? The size and shape of the tail feathers (vert. and hor. stabilisers) Any other news from this (mad scientist department)? IF YOU ANWER DIRECTLY TO ME DON'T USE THAT OLD E-MAIL ADDRESS OF MINE (esko.lempola@icl.fi), BECAUSE I CAN'T READ IT ANYMORE!!!! Friendly Esko mailto:esko.lempola@iobox.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Engine Spacers From: SLIMPIDLIN@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:19:35 EDT X-Message-Number: 2 Skip and Dana Mostly I just read and learn on here,but wanted to tell you not to waist your time messin with that spring bar(please excuse toe steppin Dana). As A tool n Die maker for over 20 years i can tell you that makin round things out of square flat stock is hard way to go, aluminum is cheap! find some round stock the diameter you want(1 in probably be fine).and cut it to 1inch lengths then drill them. hell you really dont even need to face them off if you do decent job of cuttin them straight.they will have rubber bushings on them anyway right. Hey Steve Oliver Got any more of those transponders???????? Garry Wingard Colo Springs Colo KR2 approx 80% done ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Air Compressor Requirements From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:11:54 +0000 X-Message-Number: 3 Rick, I bought a 1-1/2hp Campbell Hausfield compresor about 10 years ago to paint a 1973 AMC Javelin project I had at the time. I used it for front end work and painting. It also worked to paint my KR. However I had bought a "HVLP" gun, and it absolutly could not really keep up with what the gun needed. I had to pause frequently to keep it from overheating, but I made it work. From this experience I can say the following: 1) You won't regret your investment in an air compressor. Once in a while, I even use it to fill tires. 2) Buy enough compressor to do the job. Don't skimp like I did, My father has a great shop in Virginia, and he has one of those large standing tank type compresors. He used it to sandblast and paint a horse trailer, and this cured him of sandblasting and painting, but he has s terrific setup. One of the things he learned is that he needed a good water trap, and to do this properly he needed a LONG length of tubing between the compressor and the trap to insure the air had enough time to cool and for the water to condense. I think he has a "radiator" type arrangement of piping downstream of his compressor now before the water filter/trap. I have seen HVLP "turbine" compressors that look quite small and efficient. I think if I had the $$$ that is what I would buy for painting, but it doesn't look like it would work for airtools. -- Ross EagleGator@aol.com wrote: > Greetings all, > > I'm at the point on my airplane where I'm ready to buy an air compressor to > help speed the work process, but need some advice. All of the quality spray > guns I've been considering, including most of the HVLP (high volume low > pressure) guns, require from 8.5 to 11.1 CFM at 40 PSI, and some of the other > air tools I'd like to have require much more. I want to get a portable air > compressor that I can take to the hangar with me, but the only compressors I > can find that meet the requirements of the tools I want to use are 240 volt > shop units. So I've got a couple of stupid questions: > > 1. If I buy a 5.5 HP 26 gallon unit with 8.5 SCFM at 40 PSI, will it drive a > tool that requires a higher capacity for a short period of time? In other > words, is the 8.5 SCFM rating for continuous use? > > 2. What is everyone else using as far as compressor/paint gun combinations? > Where can I look for recommendations? Tony's books weren't much help on this > one. > > I got rear-ended on the way home from work a couple of weeks ago, and now > that I've partially recovered from that I'm about to start work on fixing my > car. I figured it would be good practice for painting my airplane. Thanks for > the help! > > Cheers, > Rick Junkin > EagleGator@aol.com > St. Charles MO > KR-2S N415RJ, "The Phantom Eagle", 40% complete > http://members.aol.com/eaglegator > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Flotsam & Jetsam From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:23:03 +0000 X-Message-Number: 4 I know one way to throttle posts to KRNET... I can personally require my Approval to each and every post that comes in. Or I can annoint the saints and gods with no approval required. Or... I can limit everyone to one post a day. I think I may try this first. If I get enough of these complaints, everyone will have to "think" before they post their one post per day. If you use it up on a "me too" post...well that's your daily allotment. In fact, I think I am now going to throttle down from 10 posts/day per person to 5 posts/day per person just until I cool off. I'm thinking that the amount of times I read about people being upset about the traffic on the net folks could have gone out and done a lot of sanding. -- Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Flotsam & Jetsam - Admin Response From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:47:45 +0000 X-Message-Number: 5 In response to the Flurry of Flotsam & Jetsam stuff, I plan to throttle back on the daily post limit of members from 10/day to 5/day. Additionally, I have considered throttling the total number of daily posts from 100/day to 50/day from all members. I also raised the max size of a post from 40K to 50K so that some of the complaints re: posting photos are addressed. This would already have been done, but it's 2:00AM here in Oregon and Teleport does Lyris account servicing between 2:00AM and 3:00AM, so I can't confirm that the changes have been made yet. If you find that you can't post due to the daily limit, and get a response back from Lyris, let me know by emailing me directly at krnet@krnet.org. I don't want to be throttling back too much, so I can change things. I don't want to go to the "approval" of posts mode, the resulting delays would probably kill the net traffic altogether. I wouldn't be able to approve posts daily, and that would kill the interactive nature of the 'net. -- Regards Ross krnet@krnet.org rossy@teleport.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Engine Spacers From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:49:22 EDT X-Message-Number: 6 In a message dated 10/18/99 4:20:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SLIMPIDLIN@aol.com writes: << wanted to tell you not to waist your time messin with that spring bar(please excuse toe steppin Dana). As A tool n Die maker for over 20 years i can tell you that makin round things out of square flat stock is hard way to go, aluminum is cheap! find some round stock the diameter you want(1 in probably be fine).and cut it to 1inch lengths then drill them. >> What I really meant to get across on that post is that making 1" round things out of that square landing bar stock is..............."the only good use I have found for that bar". Catch my drift?????? Seriously, moving a VW forward does not change you CG that much but anything to get it forward of the aft published limit is a plus. I personally feel it is much better to place the spacers between the engine mount and the accessory case than between the engine mount and the firewall.........which I have seen. Guys, like Mike said, when you see where someone you know.........yes I did meet Leigh at the gathering and he was a really neat guy who was thrilled about his KR, gets killed, it does place our little soap opera net in perspective. Man, I hope it wasn't Randy also. Dana Overall 2000 Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KR-2 Crash From: "Oscar Zuniga" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:39:47 PDT X-Message-Number: 7 The following is from the Memphis Commercial Appeal of Oct. 17, 1999. The crash was on 10/16/99, and was a KR-2. Plane Crash Kills 2 Tennessee Men SHELBYVILLE, Tenn. (AP) Two Murfreesboro men are dead after their experimental airplane crashed in a field Saturday about a mile east of Shelbyville Municipal Airport. Shelbyville Fire Department Capt. Larry Overcast said the lightweight, two-person plane had apparently left the airport for Murfreesboro when it went down at about 12:30 p.m. The two men were killed instantly. The cause of the crash was unknown. The Federal Aviation Administration was investigating Saturday night. The plane went down less than 10 miles from downtown Shelbyville. Shelbyville is 50 miles south of Nashville. Authorities did not release the names pending notification of next of kin. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KR-2 Crash From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:49:49 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8 I found a newspaper account of the crash at the following: http://www.zwire.com/news/newspartner.cfm?BRD=1067&PAG=463&LINK=http%3A%2F%2 Fdnj%2Eedge%2Enet&newsid=6368&title=%3Cbr%3E%3Cfont%20size%3D3%3ESee%20Our%2 0Extended%20News%20Site%3C%2Ffont%3E&CATNAME=Top%26nbsp%3BStories&CATEGORYID =410 Ed Janssen -----Original Message----- From: Oscar Zuniga To: KR-net users group Date: Monday, October 18, 1999 7:55 AM Subject: [kr-net] KR-2 Crash >The following is from the Memphis Commercial Appeal of Oct. 17, >1999. The crash was on 10/16/99, and was a KR-2. >Plane Crash Kills 2 Tennessee Men >SHELBYVILLE, Tenn. (AP) > Two Murfreesboro men are dead after their experimental airplane crashed >in a field Saturday about a mile east of Shelbyville Municipal Airport. >Shelbyville Fire Department Capt. Larry Overcast said the lightweight, >two-person plane had apparently left the airport for Murfreesboro when it >went down at about 12:30 p.m. The two men were killed instantly. The cause >of the crash was unknown. The Federal Aviation Administration was >investigating Saturday night. The plane went down less than 10 miles from >downtown Shelbyville. >Shelbyville is 50 miles south of Nashville. Authorities did not release the >names pending notification of next of kin. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: ejanssen@chipsnet.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: The KRNet Digest: More Filling, Less Waste From: "Oscar Zuniga" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 06:01:02 PDT X-Message-Number: 9 Hello, net-heads Here is my two bits' worth on the posting stuff. I joined KRNet just before the Gathering in '95 or '96. The excitement builds just before the Gathering, so I guess I was getting a dozen posts a day, at least, and from that first day on I knew that about 8 out of 10 posts are essentially "fluff" and random shots. I knew nothing about the internet, email, lists, or even much about building a KR. I would log on and check email a couple of times a day, and after about six months or so, thought I knew enough to contribute occasionally. After a year or 18 months, I "became part of the problem" and over-posted, pulling the trigger too quickly in response to posts, because I like a well-turned phrase and a good pun as much as the next punster, and I like flying more than all of that. After 2 years or so, I went to the digest because I found myself logging on multiple times per day and reading/responding too much. The digest is the way to go for me, because (1)you read more than just one post on a topic and get a feel for how the discussion is trending, (2)you usually see responses to a question and so you don't need to respond to most of them yourself, (3)you see touchy topics developing and skirmishes starting in time to avoid adding any fuel to the fire, (4)you get a broad overview of topics just by getting the digest listing, to see what's the hot topic of the day, and whether you want to start reading right then, or wait till later. That tends to calm things down and keep me from wasting time on KRNet. Usually nothing is so interesting or important that it can't wait a day for me to see it or respond to it. If it's really important to me, I'll get a personal offline email on it. Drawbacks are you only get one digest per day, so if you stay online all the time and want lots of mail, the Digest ain't the way to do it. I've found that I only post very occasionally anymore, because I have nothing to offer. I also do quite a bit more of my discussion off-net, because now I know exactly who to ask about a given topic, but I try not to hound folks either. I think Dana's comment about discussing things off-line until a conclusion is reached and then posting the results is an excellent way of letting everybody see the meal fully cooked without having to watch the chef cut up all the pieces too. And regarding the fatal crash of the KR-2, yes- it does put things in perspective when things like this happen. Perspective like asking yourself if saving $10 on something that is 'questionable' is worth it. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Think About This. From: DClarke351@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:49:54 EDT X-Message-Number: 10 1 Tim 3: 1-5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: epoxy-vinyl ester From: "w.g. kirkland" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:41:47 -0400 X-Message-Number: 11 I,m using vinyl ester to make the forward fuel tank and ran into a problem with using it in the house. It took 12 hrs for the smell to dissipate and my wife was not impressed. It's too cold to move it outdoors now but I found a solution. Problem: Smell from vinyl ester Cure: Add a product called BYK S-750. It is the styrene that produces the smell and the BYK S-750 reduces the styrene emmission by 70 to 90 percent. It works, I'm back in production and my wife hasn't even noticed. Also there are different types of vinyl ester and my supplier recommended Derakane 510NP as having the best resistance to fuels. W.G. KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Switching horses mid stream From: Steven Eberhart Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:48:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Message-Number: 12 Looks like I will be switching horses in mid-stream. After posting the mission profile for my ideal airplane to another aircraft experimenters list I got a reply something to the effect of "why reinvent the wheel". Seems that Max Brandli, Cafnern, Switzerland, has already redesigned the KR into just what I have been wanting. I spent the morning doing a wire transffer into his Swiss bank account for my copy of the plans. A little over $600 but the plane is already designed the way I want it. See what you think. THere is a picture of the BX-2 on page 34 of the January 1999 issue of Kitplanes. Specs are: Top Speed 162 Cruise 125 Stall 52 Engine Cont. A65, can use larger Empty weight 700 Gross weight 1222 Wing Span 23 ft. Wing Area 90 sqft (laminar airfoil) Number flown 42 Current thoughts are to use the KRnet/UIUC NLF 18%/15% airfoils but everything else basically stock. It looks like a perfect candidate for a mild Corvair engine. THe standard configuration is a Tri-gear but as the picture shows some are being built with conventional gear. The above performance and weight numbers are for the tri-gear A65 version. Conventional gear and a 130 HP Corvair should help the performance numbers. Construction is moldless composite sandwich, with easily removable wings, full flying stabilator, and a reasonably sized cockpit. Will let you know what the plans look like. Don't know about an internet mail list yet but if there isn't one, I can easily fix that :-) Since the BX-2 is a re-incarnation of the KR-2 with all of the modifications I want, I will be sticking around KRnet and will periodically (sp?) update all on my progress. Hope I will be allowed to land at the annual Gatherings - I do own two sets of KR-2S plans - that should count for something :-) After not flying for 30 years, my second solo should be this week. Re-learning to fly at a buisy, tower controlled field has been a blast. Life is great. Steve Eberhart mailto:newtech@newtech.com THE WING FLIES! - http://www.newtech.com/nlf for info on the new, flight tested, KRnet/UIUC airfoils. Good job KRnet, you can be proud of your contribution to Sport Aviation. Special thanks to Dr. Ashok Gopalarathnam and Dr. Michael Selig for some great Sport Aviation airfoils. One test is worth a thousand expert opinions but a thousand opinions are easier to get. --plagiarized from an unknown author All information, in any of my aircraft related correspondence, is strictly food for thought requiring additional, qualified, engineering analysis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Status: Web Indexed Digest of KR-Net Messages From: Walter Lounsbery Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:51:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 13 It is certainly time for a progress report on my KR-Net Web Index, so... Development of the Web Index roughly involves these steps: 1. Set up special mailbox to send messages to the indexing engine. 2. Write software to retrieve messages from the mail account 3. Write software to condition messages before adding to message database. 4. Write software to provide a smart keyword index to messages. 5. Write Web pages to access the messages and use the index 6. Publish initial results to the Web 7. Finish out automatic update process 8. Create administrative access Web pages I want to thank Ross Youngblood for help in getting past step 1. The project is now at step 4, which is somewhat exciting from a programmer's perspective. I have over 2000 messages logged since the first of July, and it will be interesting to see how many CPU cycles it takes to build the initial significant words and phrases index. My approach is different from generic engines that index every word in every message. This process depends on the limited words of common vocabulary and an operator with a keen eye for significant words and phrases to set up the indexing. Hardly patent-worthy but it should be fairly efficient. I would go into some detail about the potential capabilities of this system, but it would not be very productive. I am anxious to get this online so that the real capabilities can be seen. As usual, the need for housing and groceries gets in the way of the fun stuff. In the meantime, I can fully understand the frustration of folks that want to use an index like this now! I was motivated by a need for indexing the messages too. If another solution looks good, please feel free to pursue it. However, with good luck this project should be online in November, at no cost to KR-Net members. ===== Walter Lounsbery day (972) 432-3621 evening (817) 285-8520 Walt@Lounsbery.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Crash link From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:46:39 -0500 X-Message-Number: 14 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF195E.70BFC720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters, Sorry about the address not working for the KR accident. Alternatively, = the following address will get you to the Daily News Journal newspaper = page which is in Rutherford County, TN. Then click on "Plane Crash = Investigated..." for their story. http://dnj.edge.net/ Ed Janssen ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF195E.70BFC720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Netters,
 
Sorry about the address not working for the KR = accident. =20 Alternatively, the following address will get you to the Daily News = Journal=20 newspaper page which is in Rutherford County, TN.  Then click on=20 "Plane Crash Investigated..."   for their=20 story.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF195E.70BFC720-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Triaxial cloth and such From: "Rex T. Ellington" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:37:35 -0500 X-Message-Number: 15 Capps Family wrote: > > It was my understanding that the RAKA and West System epoxies > should not be used in airplane construction, > Larry A. Capps > cappsfan@ameritech.net > This is the first time I have heard such a criticism regarding West System. I would like to know the source so I could dig into it. A friend, who built a 200 hp Lancair 2-place and an all wood kit biplane swears by it. Too, I'm not quite sure what you mean by a soft cure on West. It seems like epoxies are like women, every man likes a different type even though they all meet the same basic requirements. Rex Ellington mailto:rtecg@telepath.com Norman, OK ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: New KR-2 crash link. From: "Mark S. Jones" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:56:15 X-Message-Number: 16 The follow link is to the Shelbyville Gazette Times where their story states Randall Smith and Liegh Kolka had just met that morning and Randall was getting a ride with Leigh because he too was building a KR-2. Link is http://www.t-g.com/ then click on headlines. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Duct Tape Residue From: "Doug Peyton" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:10:30 CEST X-Message-Number: 17 I have good news and bad news! The good news is that I'm back in America again, having moved from Stuttgart to Jenks, OK. The bad news is that when I shipped my KR-2, I covered the plastic windows with duct tape to protect them from whatever. Due to customs problems at the port, my KR sat in Houston for several days, and the intense heat there baked the duct tape onto the windows. When I got the airplane to Jenks and pulled the duct tape off, just the top cloth part of it came off and the adhesive stayed on the windows. Does anybody out there know how I can get the residue off the windows? I understand you cannot use WD-40 on the residue as its petroleum base would attack the plastic. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Duct Tape Residue From: Ron Lee Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:30:39 -0600 X-Message-Number: 18 Does anybody out there know how I can get the residue off the >windows? I understand you cannot use WD-40 on the residue as its petroleum >base would attack the plastic. From EZ list on the same subject. Others can comment on personal experience. This counts as my ONE beneficial post today. Ron Lee I had the same problem and I used WD-40 to soften the tape and a soft plastic scraper. My experience is that Eucalyptus Oil is *MUCH* better than WD-40 or any of the other solvents I tried. I don't know if it is available where you are Rego but I use a product called Goo Gone. It is a citrus based liquid product that does a pretty good job of dissolving the glue. I had duct tape on for many years with the same problem. My friend Neil Hunter clued me in on XYLENE. It worked fine and was safe to use on the LE canopy. For real heavy stuff just soak a rag and let it sit a while. NO Problem. Xylene can be purchased in your favourite hardware store. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Duct Tape Residue From: "Mark S. Jones" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:33:44 X-Message-Number: 19 There is a product called "Goo Gone" available at any hardware or builders supply even Wal Mart or K-Mart. This is a citrus based all natural product. The stuff works wonders. I have used on many applications and with no adverseeffects. Test a small area first. I feel this is the answere to your problem. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Cuyuna cayoose (horse) From: "Carlton Blandford" Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:50:22 +0200 X-Message-Number: 20 Thks all for the advise, I'll give the 2 stroke a miss for now. Regards Carlton Blandford -----Original Message----- From: Oscar Zuniga To: KR-net users group Date: 16 October 1999 04:45 Subject: [kr-net] Cuyuna cayoose (horse) >I hate to keep beating on the dead 2-stroke horse, but I had originally >thought about the 3-cyl. 2si engine when I was looking at power for the >KR-2S. It seemed like the horsepower to weight ratio beat everything else >out there, and it probably does, but that's almost a fault because to keep >the CG good you'd have the engine out on a snoot like the turbine-powered KR >has. > >Then there's the fuel specifics, and the oil mixing, the decarbonizing, the >plug changing, the ring-dinging, and all the other things that I've already >been beat up on (and educated about) with 2-strokes. I've whipped my share >of Honda 305s and a few 350s with my Yamaha 250 Big Bear (lots of years >ago), but the sound and smoke won't ever make my heart skip like a 4-stroke. > >Oscar Zuniga (planning Corvair power!) >Medford, Oregon >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >website at http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Dropzone/5610/index.html > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: genesis2@iafrica.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: kr-net digest: October 17, 1999 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:24:05 -0700 X-Message-Number: 21 >Subject: KR Crash? >From: "Mark Langford" >Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:14:17 -0500 >X-Message-Number: 24 > >I just heard on the local news that a small 2 place airplane crashed in >Tennesse, killing Leigh Kolka, and Randall Smith. Leigh, you might >remember, was the tall guy who flew in with his wife in to the Gathering in >a newly purchased KR, and took Haris's room at the lodge. I'm hoping that >the Randall Smith isn't the Randy Smith the KR pilot that has been flying >Neil Bingham's old plane. That's all I know right now. > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama >mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford Indeed it is NOT the Randy Smith you mentioned above. I talked to him at the Big Texas Fly-In in Abilene on Saturday. He sold his KR and is currently working on fixing up a Cruise-Air. Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213w construction and first flight at http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Duct Tape Residue From: "Peter Johnson" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:15:14 -0000 X-Message-Number: 22 Hi Doug. Try alcohol from your local pharmacy, either isopropol or ethynol. Let it soak & don't rub hard. Alcohol avaporates fast so you do have to keep things wet. Of course it goes without saying that you should, for your own assurance, test it first. There is a product in the cleaners section of your hardware store called 'Goo Gone'. It is a petroleum derivative so definitely test it first too. ---------- > From: Doug Peyton > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Duct Tape Residue > Date: Monday, October 18, 1999 10:10 PM > > > I have good news and bad news! The good news is that I'm back in > America again, having moved from Stuttgart to Jenks, OK. > > The bad news is that when I shipped my KR-2, I covered the plastic > windows with duct tape to protect them from whatever. Due to customs > problems at the port, my KR sat in Houston for several days, and the intense > heat there baked the duct tape onto the windows. When I got the airplane to > Jenks and pulled the duct tape off, just the top cloth part of it came off > and the adhesive stayed on the windows. > > Does anybody out there know how I can get the residue off the > windows? I understand you cannot use WD-40 on the residue as its petroleum > base would attack the plastic. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: pjohnson@voyageur.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Correction in order. From: DClarke351@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:02:38 EDT X-Message-Number: 23 A fellow netter was so kind as to point out an error in my letter to the netters. The Bible verse I meant to refer to is 2 Tim 3:1-5 not 1 Tim. The point I am trying to make is that we have had a neat arrangement discussing our KR's helping each other with very helpful hints and facts. If we all respect each other for what we are, KR aircraft builders and flyers we can continue to flourish. If we continue this back biting, fault finding and arguments we will see the KR Net slowly dissolve and the flyin get smaller as some loose interest. Once again, sorry about the error. Don Clarke ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: new keyboard From: Stickandrudder@cs.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:50:39 EDT X-Message-Number: 24 Has anyone out there got a keyboard with a key that still works? Whew, are we calm now?? Seeya ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Moving Horiz. Stabilizer Design (formerly "make vertical st... From: KRBLUCH@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:53:25 EDT X-Message-Number: 25 Be careful about adding weight to the tail. That may throw out any advantage gained from the change. Dave Blucher ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Admin Update From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:45:06 +0000 X-Message-Number: 26 Howdy KR-netters! I did some fussing with the list settings today. We are all limited to 5 posts a day. This should really impact me more than everyone else, cause I often post like crazy... but if there are a lot of complaints post to krnet@krnet.org, and I can consider throttling back. I also limited the daily maximum for all posts to 80/day from 100 per day to see what that does (if anything). I didn't want to throttle back too much cause if everyone posted 1 time/day it would be 450 posts... so this assumes that about 25% of the members want to post on a given day. Then I upped the max post size to 100K. This should allow small KR photos jpeg files to be included as attachments for folks to see. This might mess with folks who have 28.8k modems, so if you are waiting too long for posts to download in the future drop me a line, and I can throttle it back to somewhere between 40K to 100K. I got our Domain bill and it looks like after 1998 the fee for the domain name krnet.org went down from $50/yr to $35/yr so we are saving on that too! Based on this, I think we are set financially for the next year. If I get any additional funds I will have KR-net logo decals made this year for people who donate next year. I owe one person CD-ROM disk. I will try and get this out this week, if not, you may have to wait until I get moved, and back "online" the first week in November. My new address effective 11/1 is: Ross Youngblood 411 N Kyrene Rd Apt 135 Chandler, AZ 85226 Email addresses for everything here at KRNET and my personal email address will remain the same for at least another year. (I buy my internet services by the year and get two months free a year.) -- Happy Halloween everyone! Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Correction in order. From: "Cleo Greenhaw" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:52:23 -0500 X-Message-Number: 27 In answer to what Don Clarke wrote. I agree with your statements. After all what was the original intent of the KR-net? And on the other hand, think it thru, and ask ourselves---Am I real sure about the advice I am posting? Altho we are amature builders of home built airplanes, we can be professional in helping one another, but do it thru expirence, or documentation and references not hearsay and/or our own thoughts. And for you recieving the imformation,...check it out before doing it. -----Original Message----- From: DClarke351@aol.com To: KR-net users group Date: Monday, October 18, 1999 6:04 PM Subject: [kr-net] Correction in order. >A fellow netter was so kind as to point out an error in my letter to the >netters. The Bible verse I meant to refer to is 2 Tim 3:1-5 not 1 Tim. The >point I am trying to make is that we have had a neat arrangement discussing >our KR's helping each other with very helpful hints and facts. If we all >respect each other for what we are, KR aircraft builders and flyers we can >continue to flourish. If we continue this back biting, fault finding and >arguments we will see the KR Net slowly dissolve and the flyin get smaller as >some loose interest. Once again, sorry about the error. Don Clarke > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cleo@fullnet.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Epoxy Questions From: Mike Mims Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:44:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 28 If you have questions about epoxies and their use email this guy. He is an expert and a homebuilder to boot. gahunter@shellus.com His name is: Gary Hunter Technical Service Representative EPOXY RESINS TECHNICAL INQUIRY SHELL CHEMICALS, USA ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com