From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 12:18 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: November 01, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Monday, November 01, 1999. 1. Re: On names 2. Re: Newbie Builder 3. Negative reflex airfoil for the horz.. stab 4. Re: Negative reflex airfoil for the horz.. stab 5. Re: Newbie Builder 6. Re: Negative reflex airfoil for the horz.. stab 7. Re: Negative reflex airfoil for the horz.. stab 8. Re: New Names for Our Planes 9. Painting with Smoothprime 10. rides in Oregon? 11. Painting 12. Final paint 13. Canopy - Hinges for Gull Wing Doors 14. Paint 15. King avionics questions 16. Project, Low $'s 17. Re: Negative reflex airfoil for the horz.. stab 18. Re: Painting with Smoothprime 19. Automated Replies to the net. 20. Automated Replies 21. Re: Paint ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: On names From: "Jim Sellars" Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:37:57 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1 Folks; For what it's worth, I think we should call the little bird "Roket" sure it's spelled wrong, and the et at the end suggests the diminutive of the Rok, but the connotation is of a very fast aircraft. That's what I think we all like about the idea of this plane. Regards; Jim -----Original Message----- From: David Goodman To: KR-net users group Date: October 30, 1999 10:57 AM Subject: [kr-net] On names >I think giving a name to the KR is a great idea. It is not an insult to >the builder. Heck, I think he would be proud of the KR-net and all that >has been done to this plane, and would acknowledge it has been taken far >beyond what he did with it himself. I would go so far as to submit that >there are very few actual "KRs" out there flying, with all the changes that >have been made by virtually every builder who has made one. > >Other aircraft designs in kit form are just that, kits. Each one built is >a clone due to the nature of the design. This is certainly not true of the >KR. KR-net is more of a lose confederation of folks who started out at the >same point and diverged to meet their own goals in building, design and >flight. Take some credit for our uniqueness as a group of builders and >designers and give a name to this aircraft. I for one am in favor of the >name "Dart". > >David Goodman >zipperts@whidbey.net > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: jsellars@mon.auracom.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Newbie Builder From: smithr Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 12:26:10 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2 --------------D70ACE44300992E3164AFF53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert, I am not in Calif but I have a few comments about building a stock vs modified KR. Being conservative, I also originally planned to build an un-modified KR2. I began to learn all I could about KR's and after 2 years of learning decided that although it was acceptable to build a stock KR2 several modifications probably should be made. The most serious of these was the static margin problem. I found that it is generally accepted that the rear CG limit stated in the plans is 2" too far back. With one person in a KR2 this may not be a problem but this becomes a serious problem when you put a second person in a KR, causing the CG to move dangerously aft. The problem is made even worse when you have a forward fuel tank that is getting low on fuel. The KR2 is inherently somewhat pitch sensitive.Some people seem to like this. I want to eliminate some of this. The KR2S was properly designed to add 14inches aft and 2inches fore to eliminate some of this pitch sensitivity. Some people believe that the Hstab area when compared to other planes is still inadequate. This would also tend to destabilize the pitch axis. The KR2S has some increased area compared to the KR2. Krnet has discussed many things that might stabilize the plane in the pitch axis. Some people even say that the KR2 doesn't need any stabilizing. In my KR2S I am planning to 1)keep fuel over the CG, not in front of it, by using inboard wing tanks and a small header tank) limit my CG range by eliminating the last 2 inches aft 3) Add a little area to the Hstab by increasing the span 4inches. (I am most nervous about the Hstab modification) You need to know that any modifications from the plans should be thoroughly thought through and will cause the building process to go painfully slow. For example I had to modify the vertical thickness of my Hstab spars. You should also get a ride in a safe KR2 and see what room is available. I found that the shoulder room for 2 was inadequate (36 inches if I recall properly) and I am adding 2 inches which will probably still leave the room as slightly inadequate. Tall guys (which I am not) find that the headroom is inadequate but the KR2S is redesigned to provide more head room. The stock airfoil is acceptable unless you want to burn up the sky. It has been described as having a "nice stall" as long as the CG is acceptable. The KR also probably needs flaps or a belly board to provide drag. Otherwise it tends to land nose high and you have trouble seeing the RW. Many people don't have flaps and just slip it in. Which engine? Lots of people use the small VW's but often have (non-catastrophic) problems at 100-200 hrs. I haven't yet decided on my engine. Remember, the trigear is inherently stable upon landing. Also I wouldn't recommend the retracts in the plans. On the good side, the KR2 is the most performance you can buy for the money and a blast to fly! Hope this helps! Other opinions may vary. Bob Smith mailto:rsmith5@nycap.rr.com Robert Swarts wrote: > > I'm interested in more details regarding a "stock vs. modified" KR > (of any type) --------------D70ACE44300992E3164AFF53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert,
I am not in Calif but I have a few comments about building a stock vs modified KR.

Being conservative, I also originally planned to build an un-modified KR2. I began to learn all I could about KR's and after 2 years of learning decided that although it was acceptable to build a stock KR2 several modifications probably should be made.

The most serious of these was the static margin problem. I found that it is generally accepted that the rear CG limit stated in the plans is 2" too far back.  With one person in a KR2 this may not be a problem but this becomes a serious problem when you put a second person in a KR, causing the CG to move dangerously aft. The problem is made even worse when you have a forward fuel tank that is getting low on fuel.

The KR2 is inherently somewhat pitch sensitive.Some people seem to like this. I want to eliminate some of this.  The KR2S was properly designed to add 14inches aft and 2inches fore to eliminate some of this pitch sensitivity. Some people believe that the Hstab area when compared to other planes is still inadequate. This would also tend to destabilize the pitch axis. The KR2S has some increased area compared to the KR2. Krnet has discussed many things that might stabilize the plane in the pitch axis. Some people even say that the KR2 doesn't need any stabilizing.

In my KR2S I am planning to 1)keep fuel over the CG, not in front of it, by using inboard wing tanks and a small header tank) limit my CG range by eliminating the last 2 inches aft 3) Add a little area to the Hstab by increasing the span 4inches.  (I am most nervous about the Hstab modification)

You need to know that any modifications from the plans should be thoroughly thought through and will cause the building process to go painfully slow. For example I had to modify the vertical thickness of my Hstab spars.

You should also get a ride in a safe KR2 and see what room is available. I found that the shoulder room for 2 was inadequate (36 inches if I recall properly) and I am adding 2 inches which will probably still leave the room as slightly inadequate. Tall guys (which I am not) find that the headroom is inadequate but the KR2S is redesigned to provide more head room.

The stock airfoil is acceptable unless you want to burn up the sky. It has been described as having a "nice stall" as long as the CG is acceptable.

The KR also probably needs flaps or a belly board to provide drag. Otherwise it tends to land nose high and you have trouble seeing the RW. Many people don't have flaps and just slip it in.

Which engine? Lots of people use the small VW's but often have (non-catastrophic) problems at 100-200 hrs. I haven't yet decided on my engine.

Remember, the trigear is inherently stable upon landing. Also I wouldn't recommend the retracts in the plans.

On the good side, the KR2 is the most performance you can buy for the money and a blast to fly!  Hope this helps! Other opinions may vary.

Bob Smith   mailto:rsmith5@nycap.rr.com
 

Robert Swarts wrote:

 
 I'm interested in more details regarding a "stock vs. modified" KR (of any type)
  --------------D70ACE44300992E3164AFF53-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Negative reflex airfoil for the horz.. stab From: "Christopher Stewart" <23cs@msn.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 9:37:40 X-Message-Number: 3 Has anyone thought of this idea for the horz. satb?, could it work? i remember reading about how the KR has the "huey" effect in forward flight being the nose down attitude, ive often wonderd if this would work, by having a negative reflex on the airfoil on the Stab to the best of my aerondynamics knowlegde would cause the tail to pitch down thus raisng the nose, without having to trim the aircraft for the nose up attitude.any idea on this? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Negative reflex airfoil for the horz.. stab From: Steven Eberhart Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:15:14 -0600 (CST) X-Message-Number: 4 On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Christopher Stewart wrote: > Has anyone thought of this idea for the horz. satb?, could it work? > i remember reading about how the KR has the "huey" effect in forward > flight > being the nose down attitude, ive often wonderd if this would work, by > having a negative reflex on the airfoil on the Stab to the best of my > aerondynamics knowlegde would cause the tail to pitch down thus raisng the > nose, without having to trim the aircraft for the nose up attitude.any idea > on this? > I am glad to see other people looking at the flying characteristics of one of the neatest small planes around. I think what is actually happening is for the plane to be in equalibrium at high speeds the wing wants to be at a lower angle of attack than the plans specified 3 1/2 degrees. The wing is just developing too much lift at high speeds and needs to have the angle of attack at something less than the 3 1/2 degrees. the only way to accomplish this in flight is to either build it with less incidence or pitch the nose down several degrees. If you reduce the incidence to the 1 degree that Mark Lougheed calculated for the new wing then you can achieve equalibrium with the fuselage relatively level. THe down side is that the wing is at a lower angle of attack for takeoff. You will need to rotate more to get the lift necessary to go flying. THis is what Troy Petteway is experiencing with his KR-2. He has 1 degree of incidence and short landing gear. He has to accelerate to a little higher speed to takeoff. SInce the stall speed of the new airfoils is the same as the RAF-48 and CLmax is in the same ball park, he traded off takeoff roll for cruise attitude. If Troy had placed his wing incidence at the plans specified 3 1/2 degrees his takeoff roll would probably be very close to what he had with his old wing but he would have the "Huey effect" at high cruse speeds. As is always the case in aerodynamics, you optimize based on your preferences. Steve Eberhart mailto:newtech@newtech.com THE WING FLIES! - http://www.newtech.com/nlf for info on the new, flight tested, KRnet/UIUC airfoils. Good job KRnet, you can be proud of your contribution to Sport Aviation. Special thanks to Dr. Ashok Gopalarathnam and Dr. Michael Selig for some great Sport Aviation airfoils. One test is worth a thousand expert opinions but a thousand opinions are easier to get. --plagiarized from an unknown author All information, in any of my aircraft related correspondence, is strictly food for thought requiring additional, qualified, engineering analysis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Newbie Builder From: Mike Mims Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:39:16 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 5 --- smithr wrote: >>>>Add a little area to the Hstab by increasing the span 4inches. (I am most nervous about the Hstab modification<<<<<< Can you explain why this makes you more nervous than the other mods you have done or plan to do? ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Negative reflex airfoil for the horz.. stab From: Donald Reid Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:21:58 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6 Christopher Stewart wrote: > > Has anyone thought of this idea for the horz. satb?, > ive often wonderd if this would work, by > having a negative reflex on the airfoil on the Stab to the best of my > aerondynamics knowlegde would cause the tail to pitch down thus raisng the > nose, without having to trim the aircraft for the nose up attitude.any idea > on this? This is not an optimum fix for the problem. You will be increasing the download on the tail, which in turn, acts just like you have a heavier airplane. -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Negative reflex airfoil for the horz.. stab From: Mike Mims Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:16:23 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 7 I would think that this would do nothing more than increase down force that is applied by the tail the faster you go. Tail goes down, nose goes up (AOA increases) and airplane climbs (not what you really want). The fix (if you think you need one) is to decrease the amount of incidence on the main wing. > Christopher Stewart wrote: > > > > Has anyone thought of this idea for the horz. > satb?, > > ive often wonderd if this would work, by > > having a negative reflex on the airfoil on the > Stab to the best of my > > aerondynamics knowlegde would cause the tail to > pitch down thus raisng the > > nose, without having to trim the aircraft for the > nose up attitude.any idea > > on this? > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: New Names for Our Planes From: "Leon Adelstone" Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:22:4 X-Message-Number: 8 KRap this KRazy conversation is making me KRabby ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Painting with Smoothprime From: Mike Mims Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:38:57 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 9 Just because naming an airplane has become the topic of the week I thought I would throw in a building question. Has anyone out there sprayed their final paint color over smoothprime yet? I am curious as to what the final grit sandpaper should be before I paint on the gloss colors. All help appreciated and naming a plane is personal preference is it not? (DONT ANSWER THAT, I have had enough!) :o) Just because I think its a good idea, someone thought we should have a topic of the week that would allow everyone to throw out on the table their knowledge about a particular subject. I propose this week be painting. So lets hear it! Favorite kind of paint, masking tape, tape to be used for trim, how to prep the primer for paint, what paint kicks ass and what paint sucks, what temps work best, how much does paint weigh, where not to put stripes, how to cover a less than perfect surface (lots of stripes?) etc. Lets hear it!!! ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: rides in Oregon? From: Screwy Squirrel Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:27:39 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 10 First I'd like to thank everyone who has responded to my previous questions. Your answers were most helpful and gave me much to think about. Anyways, on to the next level. This college student has finally managed to scrounge together enough extra $$$ to send away for a set of plans, and there is one more little bit of apprehesion to overcome first. I'd like to see how well one of these little planes performs in the air. Is there anyone in Oregon with a completed KR2 who would allow me to ride along with them some time so I can start to get a feel for the plane? Thanks! +----------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ |John E. Holeman | OSU Computer Science Department| |754-3450 | OSU Information Services| +----------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ |mailto:holemanj@ucs.orst.edu |holemanj@cs.orst.edu | |www.orst.edu/~holemanj |holeman@engr.orst.edu | +----------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | So take your time, Look round and see | | The most in time, is where you're meant to be | | For you are light inside your dreams | | For you will find, that it's something | | That touches me. | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Painting From: "Henning Mortensen" Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:30:54 PST X-Message-Number: 11 Since Mike suggested a discussion on painting and I know nothing what so ever, about painting, I thought I should post a message. In previous discussions I have heard of people hiring a bodyshop to do their painting. Not knowing anything about painting I thought this was the way to go. I discussed this with a friend who is an experienced homebuilder and he relayed a bit of his experience to me. His comment, don't do it! The reason he was against this is that he and several others had bad experience with this. It seems that bodyshop guys don't understand about weight. In his experience, they first didn't like the finish he had done (not quite perfect) so dispite his instructions they did the old fill and sand, using good old body filler and of course with no concern for the wing profile. After that came the umpteen layers of paint to acheive that glass-like finish. When all was said and done the plane looked gorgeous but was 50lbs heavier then it should have been. There that is all I have to contribute to this thread, I will just sit back and learn from here on. Henning Mortensen KR2 Regina Sk Canada mailto:henning_kr2@hotmail.com or if you want to reply to all mailto:kr-net@telelists.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Final paint From: "Eduardo Iglesias" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:27:23 -0300 X-Message-Number: 12 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF23CD.9335AEE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have the clever surfaces after inteminables hours of sanding and = filling and we prepare to begin the final paint. We want that, besides = having a very good aspect, serve us from protection to the whole work = that we cover with painting... =20 I re read Oscar's article about epoxi post curing, temperatures and, = mainly, action of infrareds and UV (this scoundrel), I wonder if it is = convenient to paint in black the superior surfaces before giving the = final color. =20 Otherwise what we can do to protect the laminate, the epoxi and the = foams? Eduardo emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF23CD.9335AEE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We have the clever surfaces after = inteminables=20 hours of sanding and filling and we prepare to begin the final paint. We = want=20 that, besides having a very good aspect, serve us from protection to the = whole=20 work that we cover with painting... 
I re read Oscar's article = about=20 epoxi post curing, temperatures and, mainly, action of infrareds and UV = (this=20 scoundrel), I wonder if it is convenient to paint in black the superior = surfaces=20 before giving the final color. 
Otherwise what we can do to = protect the=20 laminate, the epoxi and the foams?
Eduardo
emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar=20
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF23CD.9335AEE0-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Canopy - Hinges for Gull Wing Doors From: "Austin Clark" Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:41:32 -0600 X-Message-Number: 13 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF2498.B7877500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been busy the last several days designing and building my canopy = frame. I am using a D'Fly canopy with gull wing doors on both sides. I = am looking for a way to hinge my gull wing doors so that the upper edge = can raise up an inch or so and then swing up to open. When closed, the = hinges would be completely inside the cockpit. The reason for this is = to provide some ventilation while on the ramp and while taxiing. I have = sketched some designs, but they are somewhat complex. I am looking for = something ingeniously simple and I am confident some of you on KRnet = have some good ideas you could share.=20 Thanks in Advance Austin Clark KR2S Pascagoula, Mississippi http://www.datasync.com/~itac Mailto:itac@datasync.com =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF2498.B7877500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have been busy the last several = days designing=20 and building my canopy frame. I am using a D'Fly canopy with gull wing = doors on=20 both sides. I am looking for a way to hinge my gull wing doors so that = the upper=20 edge can raise up an inch or so and then swing up to open. When closed, = the=20 hinges would be completely inside the cockpit.  The reason for this = is to=20 provide some ventilation while on the ramp and while taxiing.  I = have=20 sketched some designs, but they are somewhat complex.  I am looking = for=20 something ingeniously simple and I am confident some of you on KRnet = have some=20 good ideas you could share. 
 
Thanks in Advance
 
Austin Clark
KR2S
Pascagoula, Mississippi
http://www.datasync.com/~itac<= /FONT>
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF2498.B7877500-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Paint From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:50:30 EST X-Message-Number: 14 I used white Rust-O-leum for the over all base color and black for one trim color. The red trim color is Chevy Red high temp engine paint(spray can from Wal-Mart). It's more orange than red, and that's the shade I liked. The primer is regular auto type in a spray (Wal-Mart also). Great price, went on fine, works for me. A couple of the guys on the net have seen the bird, you could ask for their input if you like. And no one will cheese me off by any thing they say. I have $200.00 for the first person that can insult or offend me. This I have had out there for the past three years, and will double on Jan.1st. So go for it if you think your good enough. Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: King avionics questions From: "Rick Junkin" Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:20:33 X-Message-Number: 15 Greetings all, I have just finished making deals for all of the avionics for my airplane, and need some help from the avionics gurus on KRNet. Does anyone know of a source for King avionics manuals and installation guides? I'm specifically lookng for KT-76A, KY-97A, and KLN-35A references. Also, the KY-97A comm I bought is configured for 4W into 4ohm audio output. Can I configure this for use without an audio panel? I know, questions I should have asked BEFORE the purchase, but what can I say? I didn't realize there were two types of output configurations until after the auction closed. Ooops. Thanks for the any help! Cheers, Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com St. Charles MO KR-2S N415RJ "Phantom Eagle" 40% complete and progressing http://members.aol.com/eaglegator ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Project, Low $'s From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:05:05 -0500 X-Message-Number: 16 Found at EAA 565 BBoard 1 Nov 99 Teenie Two Project Hapi VW conversion, dual electronic IGN \Slick Mag, geraed starter alternator, exhaust pipes,oil cooler, engine mount,Instruments, 52x46 Tennessee Propellor,spinner,backplte, etc Matco Wheels $1000 OBO Builder deceased, Must be sold by friend John 941 474 8805 In my area ...Ron Freiberger ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Negative reflex airfoil for the horz.. stab From: Donald Reid Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 23:17:11 -0500 X-Message-Number: 17 > > Christopher Stewart wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone thought of this idea for the horz. > > satb?, > > > ive often wonderd if this would work, by > > > having a negative reflex on the airfoil on the > > Stab to the best of my > > > aerondynamics knowlegde would cause the tail to > > pitch down thus raisng the > > > nose, without having to trim the aircraft for the > > nose up attitude.any idea > > > on this? I gave a brief answer to this earlier, and after I thought about it for a little while, I realized that I was all wrong. No excuse except a shift change from nights to days. I am not at my best. At any given speed in stable flight, the wing will be at some angle of attack. What you do to the tail will not affect that angle by any significant amount, assuming the plane at that referenced airspeed. It will change the control stick position/trim tab position, but the same amount of down-load force on the tail will be required to maintain stable flight. -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Painting with Smoothprime From: Michael Geoghegan Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 11:29:37 -0500 X-Message-Number: 18 Mike Mims wrote: > Just because naming an airplane has become the topic > of the week I thought I would throw in a building > question. Has anyone out there sprayed their final > paint color over smoothprime yet? I am curious as to > what the final grit sandpaper should be before I paint > on the gloss colors. Mike, I have just gone through the Smoothprime and paint process. I found that the foam roller application of the smoothprime worked really well. I was able to apply the recommended six coats with a little less than an hour between coats. This was a great product to use. The one thing I did find is that the roller application leaves a rough surface with a lot of tiny peaks and valleys. This means that you have to sand off a lot of what you put on in order to remove all of the rough surface. I used 220 and than 320 grit paper with an electric palm sander. The smartest thing I did was to pay the $400 bucks to have two coats of paint sprayed on at the local auto repair shop. N47MG looks great with no sags or runs! The repair shop said the 320 sanding was just fine to work with. By the way, they didn't have to do any filling or sanding. They just sprayed two light coats. Its true. All that filling and sanding is worth it! Mike Geoghegan Moretown Vermont Humidors@sover.net > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Automated Replies to the net. From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:41:28 -0800 X-Message-Number: 19 OK, the polls are closed anf the votes are tallied. Many folks sent me their reasoning for why they would like to see replies to the net either on or off. All had very valid, and good arguements. For the most part, I tend to agree with those that would rather have replies to the net left off. However, Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213w construction and first flight at http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Automated Replies From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:55:41 -0800 X-Message-Number: 20 The polls are closed and the votes are tallied. Many folks sent me their reasoning for why they would like to see replies to the net either on or off. All had very valid, and good arguements. For the most part, I tend to agree with those that would rather have replies to the net left off. However, the vote was overwhelmingly (3 -1) in favor of turning automated replies to the net back on. So, I modified the KRNet profile to set the reply to address back to the KR-Net. Please, no mail to either thank or crucify me for this. I'll discuss it with Ross further when he gets back. We may look at other solutions should be be needed. Now, let's try to be on our good behavior and try to limit the mail to the KR-Net to questions and contributions. Also, try to remember that "Ross is the Boss" and can do whatever he wants upon his return. Sorry for the repeat message. The previous one was clipped for some unknown reason. Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213w construction and first flight at http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Paint From: Laheze@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 01:24:13 EST X-Message-Number: 21 Gary, I just want to know if anything is rusting on your plane, if not I guess thats really good stuff ! Thanks in advance Larry Howell laheze@aol.com --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com