From: "KR-net users group digest" To: "kr-net digest recipients" Subject: kr-net digest: January 09, 2000 Date: Monday, January 10, 2000 12:14 AM KR-net users group Digest for Sunday, January 09, 2000. 1. Re: Ponca City fly in. 2. Re: Sun-n-Fun/Lakeland,Fl. 3. Re: Ponca City fly in. 4. Re: Ponca City fly in. 5. 2001 gathering 6. Re: Canopy lock 7. West? 8. Re: Ponca City fly in. 9. Fly-in selection 10. Re: Ponca City fly in. 11. Re: Ponca City fly in. 12. Re: Ponca City fly in. 13. Re: Decals--delay 14. Re: Ponca City fly in. 15. Gathering Location 16. gathering 17. Re: Ponca City fly in. 18. Re: Ponca City fly in. 19. Re: Ponca City fly in. 20. Re: Decals--delay 21. Re: Decals--delay 22. Good things come in three's 23. Re: t-88 24. Re: Engine Cooling Templates 25. ruining a good taildragger 26. Re: Ponca City fly in. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Ponca City fly in. From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:59:10 EST X-Message-Number: 1 In a message dated 1/9/00 12:20:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, mikemims@home.com writes: << Keep in mind that someone has to stand up and "VOLUNTEER" to host the gathering. Recommendations are all nice but until someone says "I will host it" the recommendations are a bit useless. >> Guys, some background on the gathering location. The location is selected at the gathering. You can certainly voice your opinion here but the final decision is at the gathering. The process is nothing formal but is discussed by those attending until a concessus is arrived at and voted. An "I'm sure" everyone around my airport would help doesn't quite get it. Do your homework. I do know of one person (who will remain unnamed) that has been lobbying for the gathering. He already has laid the groundwork so if you want to hold the gathering, start lobbying the minute you walk onto the ramp at Lake Barkley this year. I'll post phone numbers and rates, etc., tomorrow on the KRNet about this years gathering. Dana Overall 2000 Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Sun-n-Fun/Lakeland,Fl. From: Tom Crawford Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 09:21:52 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2 TONY SOLDANO wrote: > > I'm interested to know how many of you guys are planning to bring you > completed KR's to sun-n-fun ? > > N262TC will be there. -- Tom Crawford Gainesville, FL N262TC Mailto:toys@atlantic.net http://www.tomshardwoodtoys.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Ponca City fly in. From: "Cleo Greenhaw" Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:19:32 -0600 X-Message-Number: 3 Mike: We will host it!! All the guys in local EAA chapter are for it and can, if needed, draw help from other nereby chapters plus our local Aviation Booster Club. We hold a fly in breakfast on first Saturday and draw in as many as 200 people. We got the stuff!! Cheers--Cleo at cleo@fullnet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Mims To: KR-net users group Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 11:16 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Ponca City fly in. > > Keep in mind that someone has to stand up and "VOLUNTEER" to host the > gathering. Recommendations are all nice but until someone says "I will > host it" the recommendations are a bit useless. > > > -- > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > Micheal Mims > Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( > http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ > mirror @ > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > http://members.home.com/mikemims/ > Aliso Viejo CA > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cleo@fullnet.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Ponca City fly in. From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 08:25:33 -0800 X-Message-Number: 4 Cleo Greenhaw wrote: > > Mike: We will host it!! All the guys in local EAA chapter are for it and > can, if needed, >>> Well there you have it. Now all you need to do is have someone suggest it at this years gathering. I am all for moving it back a little to the left (west) so my trip wont be as long. Can someone send me the Coordinates to Lake Barkley and Ponca City? Send them off net so we don't waste others time, thanks. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ mirror @ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 2001 gathering From: "w.g. kirkland" Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:46:55 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5 Gosh guys I like warm wx but the further south you get the longer I have to fly. Last time it took me almost ten hrs in the 150. I live more than half way to the N pole. 4515N. Just hold the gathering and those of us who can will come. W.G. KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Canopy lock From: marmet Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 11:55:17 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_9DSmKgLp/csCVVNY5jmCQA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Just keep in mind that in case of a force landing, (and fire) somebody outside must be able to release the canopy to get you out. J.C. Quebec City Canada "J. Miller" wrote: > On 01/08/00, "Kenneth L Wiltrout " wrote: > > Mike: > > > > What I meant was a locking system with a key, something that would afford > > me piece of mind while it was on the ground and I was in the diner. 10/4 > > . > > > > Kenny > > I can see that > it can't be used. If anyone else has ideas about a design for canopy > locking systems with airtight seals I'd be interested in hearing about > them. Jon > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: marmet2@videotron.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com --Boundary_(ID_9DSmKgLp/csCVVNY5jmCQA) Content-type: text/x-vcard; name=marmet2.vcf; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Card for marmet Content-disposition: attachment; filename=marmet2.vcf Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Marcoux;J. C. & Jocelyne x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:M & M adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:marmet2@videotron.ca fn:J.C. end:vcard --Boundary_(ID_9DSmKgLp/csCVVNY5jmCQA)-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: West? From: DClarke351@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:08:33 EST X-Message-Number: 7 West! You want West? How about my airport? West Texas Airport. You can all go over to Juarez Mexico, get just as drunk as you want and not be able to fly for a week. Sound like fun? Lets have the gathering here next year. Your old friend Don Clarke ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Ponca City fly in. From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:10:00 -0700 X-Message-Number: 8 On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:59:10 EST KR2616TJ@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 1/9/00 12:20:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, > mikemims@home.com writes: > > << Keep in mind that someone has to stand up and "VOLUNTEER" to host the > gathering. Recommendations are all nice but until someone says "I will > host it" the recommendations are a bit useless. >> > > Guys, some background on the gathering location. The location is selected at > the gathering. You can certainly voice your opinion here but the final > decision is at the gathering. Since many of us are out West and don't make it to the Eastern Gatherings to vote, I guess that means that those out East will keep it. It would make better sense to me to rotate it back and forth across the Mississippi. I know we are lined up for Carbondale, IL next, but perhaps Larry wouldn't mind putting it off for a year in the interest of including everyone? Ponca City is very close to Perry, which was very popular as a central location. Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213w construction and first flight at http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Fly-in selection From: Ron Lee Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 10:44:21 -0700 X-Message-Number: 9 Seems to me that the selection process at one year's fly-in is way to late. The site is already selected by whoever does the work. I think that the site should move around a bit. Sure everyone wants it close enough they can sleep in their bed at night but that is not feasible. So move it around so no part of the country is "excluded" from easy driving access. If that means you strive to set it between three or four regions...so be it. Plus I think KR-NET is the real driver. This is where the active KR peeps are who can coordinate stuff on-line. So if KR-NET TAKES CHARGE, then others will follow. Ron Lee ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Ponca City fly in. From: Ron Lee Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 10:46:15 -0700 X-Message-Number: 10 I know we are lined up for Carbondale, IL next, but perhaps >Larry wouldn't mind putting it off for a year in the interest of >including everyone? How can this be? I thought Lake Barkley got it a second year. Thus the decision for 2001 would not be made until later this year. Ron Lee ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Ponca City fly in. From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 09:55:00 -0800 X-Message-Number: 11 Ron Lee wrote: > > I know we are lined up for Carbondale, IL next, Well I guess there goes another gathering I wont make it too! Maybe I can make the 2002 gathering if its more centralized?? -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ mirror @ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Ponca City fly in. From: Ron Lee Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 11:16:00 -0700 X-Message-Number: 12 >Ron Lee wrote: >> >> I know we are lined up for Carbondale, IL next, > >Well I guess there goes another gathering I wont make it too! Maybe I >can make the 2002 gathering if its more centralized?? >Micheal Mims See folks. That would make FIVE, yes 5 years in the eastern and central regions. Seems way too long to not have it on the west coast. The only justification for sucha drought for the west coast weenies, I mean people, is if no one from the western region offers to host it. as I stated before, KR-NET can be the driver. But only if a reasonable allocation around the country can be worked. PS, lets do the 2001 gathering at MeadowLake airport. Then I can WALK home to my comfy bed. (sarcasm at work here). Even though it would benefit ME, it is not in the best interests of the KR fly-in to be here (limited ramp space, hangar space, high density altitude) Ron Lee ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Decals--delay From: Greg S Martin Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:25:15 -0800 X-Message-Number: 13 Ross I think I can as I have a scantocad software that is suppose to do that kind of thing. I brought up the web site but couldn't the item that you are looking for.. Could you send me the item and I'll see what I can do. Greg Martin, idrawtobuild@juno.com 1783 Glenwood Court Bakersfield, California 93306 work 661-861-0570, fax 861-0517 home 661-872-8781, fax 871-1822 On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 10:17:00 +0000 "Ross R. Youngblood" writes: > The vendor who quoted me on the decals is having problems > as they want a "vectorized" version not a bitmap. This is > a dissappointment to me as my previous vendor in Oregon > assured me they would have no problem. > > If anyone can convert the .gif file to .ai, eps, or corel vector > format, I'd appriciate an email. You can grab the .gif file off > the website at http://www.krnet.org. > > P.S. Just email the converted file. > -- Ross > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: idrawtobuild@juno.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Ponca City fly in. From: "Edwin Blocher" Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:12:43 -0600 X-Message-Number: 14 We are not lined up for Carbondale or any thing else for 2001. That will be voted on at this years gathering. This has always been the way it is decided but maybe it is time to change how we decide. As far as I can figure it out the Gathering is the "official" KR group. It probably was for years but with the KR-Net and the enormous ammount of KR builders, flyers, and wannabes, it might be time for changes. How do we do it? Come to the gathering, lobby, change the way it's decided? I personally wouldn't mind So. Cal. for a gathering since I have retired and can spend the time that I couldn't 2 years ago. It is a problem for most but this year in Ky. we had people from Cal., Nev., Mn., Fl., NH., TX., KS., GA.,VA., IA., and more, so there was a good cross section of the country. Lets all think about this and post ideas as the New Millenium gets closer. ED Ed Blocher Moody, AL mailto: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Mims To: KR-net users group Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 11:55 AM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Ponca City fly in. > Ron Lee wrote: > > > > I know we are lined up for Carbondale, IL next, > > > Well I guess there goes another gathering I wont make it too! Maybe I > can make the 2002 gathering if its more centralized?? > > -- > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > Micheal Mims > Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( > http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ > mirror @ > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > http://members.home.com/mikemims/ > Aliso Viejo CA > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Gathering Location From: Mark Jones Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:30:55 +0000 X-Message-Number: 15 Come on guys, if you really want to go to the gathering, it doesn't matter where it is, you will find a way to go. I will, no matter where it is. After the 99 gathering, I made the decision to save a week of my vacation to turn this into an annual family affair. So, is the Ponca City Fly In thread going to run all year about where the 2001 gathering will be? Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: gathering From: Brown Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:18:53 -0800 X-Message-Number: 16 Why not evryother year have it east coast- west coast, there are alot of people on west coast that just cant travel that far that want family with them because of time or other reasons. In Atwater,Ca is Castle airport, was an AFB a 10,oooft or better runway very large area people even camp there during flyins it also has an air museum with about 50 or so planes from ww2 to present acft and all kind of hotels and restuarants, something for evryone including Rc-acft it is something to consider but its just an idea ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Ponca City fly in. From: "Matt Fulks" Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:34:4 X-Message-Number: 17 If you want to meet in Oklahoma, Clinton Sherman in western Oklahoma is a good spot too. They have one of the largest runways in the world there. I believe it's over 15,000 feet. It's wide enough that a KR could almost take off sideways on it. They have more ramp space than a fleet of C-5s would know what to do with. It's even an emergency landing spot for the space shuttle. The town of Clinton is close by too. It's about the same size of Ponca City or Stillwater. It used to be a big military base, but they don't use it anymore and it is now an uncontrolled airport on the weekends, and class D airspace on weekdays from 9am to 5pm. I've landed there a couple of times and the place is simply amazing. You can use the smaller runway too if you don't think you will need all 15,000 feet for your KR. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Ponca City fly in. From: "terry" Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:21:30 -0600 X-Message-Number: 18 I'm planning on having a fly in and camp out around July at Marion Ks. [ 43K ] . Should have my kr2s about 1/2 done by then . This is a small fly in with about 30 or 40 people last year with a ww2 speaker and cookout.So if you can't make the big kr2 gathering you my have a local gathering and met some kr2 around your area Terry chizek MARION KS CHITL@SOUTHWIND.COM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Ponca City fly in. From: PhilKR2S@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 19:36:26 EST X-Message-Number: 19 How about considering a Spring KR meeting in the mid-west/central south. Schedule one some time in May further west than the current ones and allow more participation Phil Payne 98% complete and working on the last 20% > > On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:59:10 EST KR2616TJ@aol.com writes: > > In a message dated 1/9/00 12:20:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > mikemims@home.com writes: > > > > << Keep in mind that someone has to stand up and "VOLUNTEER" to host > the > > gathering. Recommendations are all nice but until someone says "I will > > host it" the recommendations are a bit useless. >> > > > > Guys, some background on the gathering location. The location is > selected at > > the gathering. You can certainly voice your opinion here but the final > > > decision is at the gathering. > > Since many of us are out West and don't make it to the Eastern Gatherings > to vote, I guess that means that those out East will keep it. It would > make better sense to me to rotate it back and forth across the > Mississippi. I know we are lined up for Carbondale, IL next, but perhaps > Larry wouldn't mind putting it off for a year in the interest of > including everyone? > > Ponca City is very close to Perry, which was very popular as a central > location. > > Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM > mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com > See N1213w construction and first flight at > http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Decals--delay From: "J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd." Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 19:39:54 -0600 X-Message-Number: 20 >If anyone can convert the .gif file to .ai, eps, or corel vector >format, I'd appriciate an email. You can grab the .gif file off >the website at http://www.krnet.org. > Could not find the decal graphic file at the above Website. I think I can help you but I need the file. KRRon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Decals--delay From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 17:47:01 -0800 X-Message-Number: 21 > > >If anyone can convert the .gif file to .ai, eps, or corel vector > >format, I'd appriciate an email. >>>> I sent Ross the EPS format. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ mirror @ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Good things come in three's From: "Gaylon Fuller" Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:46:34 X-Message-Number: 22 At my last EAA meeting, I got to lay hands on a acutal KR2 (approx 65%). After 1000's of pics it was neat to lay hans on one. The builder has taken a three year break from building, but is starting to get back to work. One the way out the door, he handed me a 4 inch stack of KR Newsletters! And said there was more after I read those. Today I became the proud owner af a EA81 for hauling of the Brat it is attached to. So far Y2K has been very good to me! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: t-88 From: Chris Gardiner Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 21:44:54 -0500 X-Message-Number: 23 Vincent , put the T88 resin in the microwave for 30 seconds at a time until the resin re mixes. Or use a bucket of warm water for 30 minutes. It is normal for the resin part A to thicken up after a few months, but it is still OK to use after re-mixing this way. Regards Chris Gardiner C-GKRZ 60% Vincent Chrisovergis wrote: > > Does any one no what is the shelf life of t-88 glue sitting in a room > not opened at 70 degrees room temp. And what is the part a resin suppose > to look like? To me when I began my progect I opened up the resin and it > looks like it's curdled.Is this my emagination or am I just over > reacting. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: clgard@netcom.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Engine Cooling Templates From: Chris Gardiner Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 21:48:44 -0500 X-Message-Number: 24 Great Plains also sells a set of VW cooling baffle templates for approx. $10. Contact them through their web site at http://www.greatplains.com Regards Chris Gardiner C-GKRZ 60% Donald Reid wrote: > > Mike Mims wrote: > > > > Does anyone know of a source for templates to help in the construction > > of cooling tin for Lycomings and Continentals? > > The only book that I know of is in the Tony Bingelis series, and the > drawins are not that accurate. I used light-weight > cardboard/posterboard and started cutting. I went through a number of > paper versions before I got something that I liked. > -- > Don Reid > Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com > KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm > Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: clgard@netcom.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: ruining a good taildragger From: "Oscar Zuniga" Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 19:31:42 PST X-Message-Number: 25 Jerry wrote: >What is the procedure for the conversion to >tri-gear using Rand's KR-2 Diehl tricycle gear? >Does anyone have a written procedure that they could >email? You might try off-net direct email with Paul Martin, traildog@wolfpacks.com- he just flew his conversion this past summer. Straight KR-2, converted from stock Rand-Robinson retract taildragger to Diehl nosegear. He is very pleased with it. I think there might be instructions with some of the parts, but some of it is self-explanatory and some of it is "you're on your own". And BTW guys- the 2000 Gathering is already slated to be a repeat at Lake Barkley, n'est ce pas? So the Oklahoma discussion would be for 2001? Oscar Zuniga, P.E. Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Ponca City fly in. From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 19:54:50 -0800 X-Message-Number: 26 This discussion is getting old but for the record, if the 2001 gathering is east of Texas I will hold a gathering for west coast people at Chino on the same days (assuming there is interest). I am sure Haris and I can come up with something. It will not be a full blown gathering like the one at Lake Barkley but we will do something. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ mirror @ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@ipinc.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com