From: "KR-net users group digest" To: "kr-net digest recipients" Subject: kr-net digest: January 14, 2000 Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 12:15 AM KR-net users group Digest for Friday, January 14, 2000. 1. re: Rocket science 2. Re: canopy latching 3. Re: elevator hinges 4. Re: elevator hinges 5. Re: elevator hinges 6. Re: Canopy Plexiglass 7. Re: Canopy Plexiglass 8. Re: Canopy Plexiglass 9. re: Rocket science 10. Re: elevator hinges 11. Re: Canopy Plexiglass 12. Re: Canopy Plexiglass 13. Corvair Engine 14. Re: canopy latching 15. running lean of peak 16. South Point 17. Re: running lean of peak ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: re: Rocket science From: "Richard Parker" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 03:25:35 PST X-Message-Number: 1 If you have a nomex flight suit you dont need all the other stuff and your build time will be reduced by a lot! BTW I have an extra size 42S Nomex Flight Suit that I'll trade for something useful (or fun). Rich Parker http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm richontheroad@hotmail.com Subject: Re: kr-net digest: January 11, 2000 From: Mike Mims Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:57:25 -0800 X-Message-Number: 13 KRBLUCH@aol.com wrote: > >Get a grip guys, this is not rocket science. >Dave Blucher >KR-2S N197DB >But Dave way to many people think it is. If you don't have a >jettisonable canopy, perfectly straight (nonlaminated) spars, >retractable landing lights, a AM,FM,CD player, full IFR panel >and >autopilot, a BRS, a impact absorbing seat, a nomex flight suit >and >flight boots, fully retractable tricycle gear, a double safe >spar, (feel >free to add more) you will surely die on the first flight! :o) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: canopy latching From: "macwood" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:12:56 -0000 X-Message-Number: 2 Hi Ken, I wouldn't rely on being able to punch out of a locked canopy with a screwdriver . I remember our fire crews were instructed to spray CO2 onto canopies to make them brittle enough to break into in an emergency. Perhaps my previous callings have made me paranoid about safety(engineering insurance and RAF Vulcan crewchief), but I think a few simple modifications can make all the difference. I'm not cocerned about the "bells and whistles",just basics. I had the misfortune to have an accident on my second flight,( caught a wing tip in a field of oilseed next to the strip,and ground looped),but thanks to Monte Miller's harness attachment design, and Bobby Muse' seat ,I walked out of without a scratch (still rebuilding 18 months down the line!) So,thanks to you guys I can thank those two gents personally ! Cheers Mac Wood ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Jordan To: KR-net users group Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 9:30 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: canopy latching > A good punch with a screwdriver will open the canopy, from the > inside or outside, in an emergency. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: macwood@tinyworld.co.uk > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: elevator hinges From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:30:58 EST X-Message-Number: 3 In a message dated 1/14/00 2:49:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, grobertson@tdn.com writes: << when you rotate the elev. up 30 deg. from the hinge line the elev. hits the stab. aft edge, but if you draw your radius from the hinge line it rotates around the hinge line and doesn't hit the stab.aft edge. i saw this by referring to an article in the kr newsletter of 9/89. am i thinking right? >> Guys, save yourself a tremendous amount of time and energy and throw the RR hinge design out the window of you car while traveling at a very high rate of speed. Go to Dr. Dean's web page and look at his page on hinges. He has a material list for using rod end bearings for hinges. I used this method on my horizontal stab rebuild and it is great. It pivot dead center so you do get what is described above and it is in essence, self aligning. Check it out, is KISS and it's the way to go. If you want to see what the bearing looks like installed go to: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/kr00007.htm You will see that it also makes for an extremely tight gap seal that is also a piece of cake to make using these hinges. It solves a world of problems. Dana Overall 2000 Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: elevator hinges From: "Mark Langford" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:48:36 -0600 X-Message-Number: 4 To answer the next question that'll be asked, Dr. Dean's hinges are at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/hinges.htm . Dana's dead on here. These will never bind or wear out, unlike the stockers. If you haven't built yours yet, and you see this setup and don't build it, well, you can lead a horse to water... Mark Langford (still sobbing over those scabbed up main spars) Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: elevator hinges From: "Christopher Stewart" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:26:53 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5 Dr.Deans, hinges work great, I couldn't agree more that they do save a lot of headache and time, but I ran into a minor problem installing mine, I had trouble getting a perfect 90 deg. hole through the spars,(which I should have drilled before I glue everything on), but a simple solution, was to make a drill guide block, like the one used for the WAF, it worked out great, their real smooth also Christopher Stewart Whitesville WV KR-1XL N823CS(reserved) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR-net users group" Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 8:48 AM Subject: [kr-net] Re: elevator hinges > To answer the next question that'll be asked, Dr. Dean's hinges are at > http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/hinges.htm . Dana's dead on here. These will > never bind or wear out, unlike the stockers. If you haven't built yours > yet, and you see this setup and don't build it, well, you can lead a horse > to water... > > Mark Langford (still sobbing over those scabbed up main spars) > Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cstewart@kvinet.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Canopy Plexiglass From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:44:19 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6 Question: When I taped around the Plexiglass to create a line to fiberglass to I used duct tape, now 3 yrs. later I removed it and have a heavy film of tape adhesive on the Plexiglass. I have RR top deck package. What can I use to remove this stuff with out causing harm to the glass??? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Canopy Plexiglass From: marmet Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:00:15 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_z8el0kg8rIBlKqkj031jfQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE There is a liquid called "Goo Gone" that does just that. With a littl= e bit of patience, it should come out. J.C. Qu=E9bec Canada KR2 C-GZFF Kenneth L Wiltrout wrote: > Question: When I taped around the Plexiglass to create a line to > fiberglass to I used duct tape, now 3 yrs. later I removed it and h= ave a > heavy film of tape adhesive on the Plexiglass. > I have RR top deck package. > What can I use to remove this stuff with out causing harm to the gl= ass??? > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! 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I wouldn't do this until you are done with finish paint, if possible. --- Kenneth L Wiltrout wrote: > Question: When I taped around the Plexiglass to > create a line to > fiberglass to I used duct tape, now 3 yrs. later I > removed it and have a > heavy film of tape adhesive on the Plexiglass. > I have RR top deck package. > What can I use to remove this stuff with out causing > harm to the glass??? > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE > software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: > kr2sflyer@yahoo.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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Paul O'Reilly (Eaa 336) Stickandrudder@cs.com BE23 S3 -- KR2 Derry, NH ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: elevator hinges From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:08:40 EST X-Message-Number: 10 In a message dated 1/14/00 10:41:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, cstewart@kvinet.com writes: << Dr.Deans, hinges work great, I couldn't agree more that they do save a lot of headache and time, but I ran into a minor problem installing mine, I had trouble getting a perfect 90 deg. hole through the spars,(which I should have drilled before I glue everything on), >> Definitely the way to go is to drill both the aft horizontal stab spar and the elevator spar on a drill press before installing the stab assembly on the airplane. Like you said, the jig will work if your un-drilled stab spar is already glued on. I'd be will to bet it would take you less time to build the jig than it takes to align the RR style hinges. You'll be playing with your imaginary elevator in no time with the rod end bearing hinges. Heck, you'll probably go show your neighbor just how slick it is:-) Dana Overall 2000 Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Canopy Plexiglass From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:13:51 -0500 X-Message-Number: 11 Thanks fellow netters, I asked for a couple of ideas and that's what I got. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Canopy Plexiglass From: "David Busby" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:07:24 -0600 X-Message-Number: 12 WD-40 will work too. Could try some Pledge (furniture polish). I use this on plexiglass and it works great. (Anything a little oily should loosen it up with a little time and elbow grease.) marmet wrote: > There is a liquid called "Goo Gone" that does just that. With a little bit of > patience, it should come out. > J.C. Québec Canada > KR2 C-GZFF > > Kenneth L Wiltrout wrote: > > > Question: When I taped around the Plexiglass to create a line to > > fiberglass to I used duct tape, now 3 yrs. later I removed it and have a > > heavy film of tape adhesive on the Plexiglass. > > I have RR top deck package. > > What can I use to remove this stuff with out causing harm to the glass??? > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > ________________________________________________________________ > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: marmet2@videotron.ca > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > J.C. > M & M > > J.C. > M & M > Additional Information: > Last Name Marcoux > First NameJ. C. & Jocelyne > Version 2.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Corvair Engine From: DThomas773@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:51:09 EST X-Message-Number: 13 Does anyone have a corvair engine flying in a KR2?( or KR2s). I read on the posting about folks building them but are there any completed success stories? Are there any conversion plans available, for those of us not gifted or trained in that area? KR2 Builder Wanna Be. Dennis Thomas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: canopy latching From: KRBLUCH@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:23:00 EST X-Message-Number: 14 I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to lock themselves INSIDE an aircraft. All of these replies should be aimed at locking the canopy after one has stepped out! Dave Blucher ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: running lean of peak From: "Oscar Zuniga" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:28:23 PST X-Message-Number: 15 Dana wrote: >http://www.avweb.com/articles/pelperch/pelp0018.html > And an excellent tech article it is! I curled up and read it last night, and it makes lots of sense. Not that many of us run IO-550s or GAMIjectors, but the theory is correct. Our problem will be (with smaller engines) that the unbalanced flow to each cylinder with standard carb setups will result in engine roughness running LOP, so we can't optimize in that range. But it sure proves out what Klaus Savier and those guys have been saying all these years. I did learn why Steve at Great Plains publishes the CHT recommendations for his VW operations at the values he does. It's always seemed like hocus-pocus to me, but there is one graph on the above website that shows aluminum alloy tensile strength v.s. temperature, and you'll see why you don't want your engine to see 400+ degree CHTs very much. Also learned something else: an 1835 VW will give its operator 4 hrs. of spinning the prop for every 1 hr. Dana's big 550 will, on the same gallon on avgas ;o) Love that 4 gph! Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: South Point From: "saunders" Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:08:24 -0500 X-Message-Number: 16 Any builders in the South Point, Ohio area? I am travelling thru this area on the 16th and 17th, and would like to look at any projects or finished KRs in the area. Michael Saunders Cumberland, Md saunders@hereintown.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: running lean of peak From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:16:17 EST X-Message-Number: 17 In a message dated 1/14/00 8:55:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, taildrags@hotmail.com writes: << http://www.avweb.com/articles/pelperch/pelp0018.html > but there is one graph on the above website that shows aluminum alloy tensile strength v.s. temperature, and you'll see why you don't want your engine to see 400+ degree CHTs very much. Also learned something else: an 1835 VW will give its operator 4 hrs. of spinning the prop for every 1 hr. Dana's big 550 will, on the same gallon on avgas ;o) Love that 4 gph! >> You're right, 400 degrees is a magic figure. Unfortunate, they only put the 550 in the big, bad newer A36s and 33s:-), it's still a kick in the pants on takeoff. Today, full fuel, two people, no flaps, gear up, banged it off of 2000 fpm mark. Take that Zoro:-) I might look for a 337............................. Random thoughts: To optimize LOP you do need fuel injection and the ability to regulate and monitor each individual cylinder. With that said, a carb. engine can be run LOP. Apparently some run great, others do not. You just have to try it. If you use an EGT and CHT on each cylinder you can identify when your richest cylinder goes LOP. Use that and your first one to go lean as reference points. You must keep track of both EGT and CHT as your EGT will actually decrease with detonation on the extreme side of LOP, but that individual cylinder's CHT will increase. You must use both gauges to determine the optimal LOP setting. Remember, as you descend your mixture will lean so you need to enrichen to optimize this method. It certainly takes more mixture management than using GAMIs and JPIs that monitor the mixture. When you establish cruise, set it and go on. On descents, enrichen 50-75 degrees ROP and point the nose down. Without the ability to constantly monitor each cylinder, I would not use this procedure in anything but long (somewhat) cruise. Very interesting concept on how to run your engine at a specific temp. and burn less fuel more cleanly. Set that engine to econmony cruise and truck on. Interesting article, if you haven't read it, you should give it a looksee. Dana Overall 2000 Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@ipinc.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com