From: "KR-net users group digest" To: "kr-net digest recipients" Subject: kr-net digest: February 23, 2000 Date: Thursday, February 24, 2000 12:03 AM KR-NET Digest2 for Wednesday, February 23, 2000. 1. Rudders 2. ALUMINIUM 3. Re: ALUMINIUM 4. Re: lesson learned 5. Re: ALUMINIUM 6. Re: ALUMINIUM 7. Re: lesson learned 8. Re: FW: KR-2 Rudder size 9. Re: Fw: KR2 RUDDERS . 10. Re: lesson learned 11. Re: battery size? 12. Micro Problems 13. Re: Rudders & taxi directional control 14. Re: battery size? 15. Re: lesson learned 16. Re: lesson learned 17. Re: lesson learned 18. Re: secondary ignition system on VW Happy covversion 19. Re: secondary ignition system on VW Happy covversion 20. Re: battery size? 21. Re: kr-net digest: February 22, 2000 22. Battery 23. Re: new construction mateiral... 24. The 2001 Gathering 25. Re: The 2001 Gathering 26. Re: The 2001 Gathering 27. Re: secondary ignition system on VW Happy covversion ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Rudders From: "fly" Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:41:42 +1300 X-Message-Number: 1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F5_01BF7E46.C63473C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The rudder on my machine has been lengthened in height by 3" and has a = strobe added to the extension right on the top in the center. Not only = has it been lengthened but it also protrudes foward to the front of the = verticle stabiliser as in a leading edge. Am consistantly flying in = seven to fifteen knotts cross wind with a max of eighteen knotts so far. = Do not experiance any problems on takeoff or landing apart from staying = very alert. The problems begin when I try to taxi and sometimes end up = doing 360's on the taxiway much to my embarresment. You can see in the = photograph on my home page what I mean about the rudder. Have not had = the chance to fly a standard KR yet so have nothing to compare, but do = recomend this mod......Cheers.......Dave David J Stuart, Wellington New Zealand. Email: fly@paradise.net.nz Pictures: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~fly ------=_NextPart_000_00F5_01BF7E46.C63473C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The rudder on my machine has been lengthened in = height by=20 3" and has a strobe added to the extension right on the top in the = center. Not=20 only has it been lengthened but it also protrudes foward to the front of = the=20 verticle stabiliser as in a leading edge. Am consistantly flying in = seven to=20 fifteen knotts cross wind with a max of eighteen knotts so far. Do not=20 experiance any problems on takeoff or landing apart from staying very = alert. The=20 problems begin when I try to taxi and sometimes end up doing 360's on = the=20 taxiway much to my embarresment. You can see in the photograph on my = home page=20 what I mean about the rudder. Have not had the chance to fly a standard = KR yet=20 so have nothing to compare, but do recomend this=20 mod......Cheers.......Dave
David J Stuart,
Wellington  New=20 Zealand.
Email:    fly@paradise.net.nz
Pictures:&= nbsp;  =20 http://homepages.paradise.= net.nz/~fly
------=_NextPart_000_00F5_01BF7E46.C63473C0-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: ALUMINIUM From: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:58:50 +0200 X-Message-Number: 2 Hello everybody Do any of you foresee any problems with substituting 6061 T6 aluminium with 6261 T6? (6061 is not available in South Africa in the sizes required) Danny Livingstone E-Mail: livd0124@natref.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: ALUMINIUM From: "Stefan B." Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:32:13 +0100 X-Message-Number: 3 "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" wrote: > Hello everybody > > Do any of you foresee any problems with substituting 6061 T6 aluminium with > 6261 T6? (6061 is not available in South Africa in the sizes required) > I don't know the 6261-T6 alloy but I had the same problem as you in Europe. Mark Langford suggested me to use 6082-T6 that has nearly the same mech. properties as 6061-T6. I could find here and I use 6082-T651. Stefan Balatchev, Paris, France ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: lesson learned From: Donald Reid Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 05:40:48 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4 --=====================_1052191==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:59 PM 02/22/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Too late I found out that micro doesn't sand like I thought it would after >filling staple holes. I was sure I had read that it sanded rather easily. >Wrong. I left excess micro on the fuselsage, thinking like I was finishing >sheet rock, but now it is going to take me several days to get it sanded >as smooth as I wany it. The ease of sanding is a function of the type of epoxy and the amount of micro. EZ Poxy is great for structural layups, but it is terrible to sand. Very tough. I use AlphaPoxy for all of the micro work. It is lighter, cheaper, and very ease to sand. Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html --=====================_1052191==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 06:59 PM 02/22/2000 -0600, you wrote:
Too late I found out that micro doesn't sand like I thought it would after filling staple holes. I was sure I had read that it sanded rather easily. Wrong. I left excess micro on the fuselsage, thinking like I was finishing sheet rock, but now it is going to take me several days to get it sanded as smooth as I wany it.

The ease of sanding is a function of the type of epoxy and the amount of micro.  EZ Poxy is great for structural layups, but it is terrible to sand.  Very tough.  I use AlphaPoxy for all of the micro work.  It is lighter, cheaper, and very ease to sand.


Don Reid
Bumpass, Va.   mailto:donreid@erols.com
  Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html --=====================_1052191==_.ALT-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: ALUMINIUM From: "Mark Langford" Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:31:06 -0600 X-Message-Number: 5 Livingstone, Danny wrote: > Do any of you foresee any problems with substituting 6061-T6 aluminium with > 6261 T6? (6061 is not available in South Africa in the sizes required) 6261-T6 has an ultimate tensile strength of 260 MPa, yield strength of 240, and 10% elongation, with 6061-T6 being 262, 241, and 7%. I'd say that's close enough KR work... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: ALUMINIUM From: "Mark Langford" Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:43:00 -0600 X-Message-Number: 6 A couple of minutes ago I wrote: > 6261-T6 has an ultimate tensile strength of 260 MPa, yield strength of 240, > and 10% elongation, with 6061-T6 being 262, 241, and 7%. I'd say that's > close enough for KR work... Having said that, you OTHER guys don't think for a second that you can get away with using 6063-T-anything unless you've done an analysis and are positive that you've got sufficient margin, because the stuff is not even half as strong as 6061-T6. If you've ever drilled a hole in it, it's like wood. Always check the data, and never ASSume anything about a piece of unmarked aluminum. 6063 is "only 2" from 6061, but it's a whole different animal... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: lesson learned From: DClarke351@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:50:28 EST X-Message-Number: 7 If the micro clogs up your sand paper you may have not mixed the epox right. It should sand clean with a minimum of residue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: FW: KR-2 Rudder size From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graham=20Schott?= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:30:03 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 8 Coiln, I have a tri gear KR2 I almost always fly 2 up thats about 330lb When I had about 10 hrs on the beast the tower tried to change the runway from the long sealed one to a shorter grass strip because of cross winds (15 kts). I requeseted the long one. They claimed crosswind gusts to 25 krs. but let me in. I was worried but the landing was easy. I was using higher approach speeds then and lots of runway but landings are Ok, takeoffs have to contend with the prop as well Maybe the trigear is the trick. --- "Seifert, Richard E" wrote: From: Seifert, Richard E > > > Colin > > I saw your post to the KR-net about your concern > for directional > > stability on take off. I have been flying my KR-2 > for about 8 years and > > have not had the problem you described. I suspect > your problem will > > > leave-kr-net-177744Q@telelists.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fw: KR2 RUDDERS . From: Krwr1@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:36:07 EST X-Message-Number: 9 Hi Bill Here In The 1500 hrs of flying the Kr, I only lost control one time. I lifted the tail too soon, and at that same time a gust of wind hit the rudder, and I went off the runway. Lucky me, there was nothing there to hit. I found that keeping the tail on the ground with a little back pressure until you have enough speed to control your direction with brakes and rudder, you can control the KR quit well in a cross wind take off. Also I've made a lot of cross wind landings, but in any cross wind, I always made a wheel landing at a higher speed, keeping the tail up, but when it did come down nail it with back pressure. Bill Reents youngstown Ohio ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: lesson learned From: larry flesner Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:54:50 -0600 X-Message-Number: 10 At 06:59 PM 2/22/00 -0600, you wrote: > Too late I found out that micro doesn't sand like I thought it would >after filling staple holes. Ed Blocher >Moody, AL >mailto: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com ============================================================================ === Ed, What type of resin are you using and how "runny" was your micro mix? I have used a considerable amount of "micro" on my project and find that it sands just fine when the resin is cured. I used epoxy resin and enough micro to give the consistancy of firm peanut butter. I've also used the "Super Fil" and I think I like a good micro mix better. I think the Micro applies better. I use 80 or 100 grit paper for the first sanding of micro and have never had a problem with it filling the grit IF the resin is cured. If the micro is too resin rich you have two problems. It's heavy and it doesn't sand for s&%# !!! I used the rubber squeege from Wicks and tried not to over-fill on any one application but did a couple sand and fill cycles to get the fill necessary. I hope this doesn't start a week long debate of which is better. It's just my opinion. Every builder needs to try some of each to see which one they prefer. "Your results may differ"!!!! I've spoken with Jerome Hedinger (sp), the manager at Wicks, and he thinks you can get a fill that's just as light with micro as with the Super Fil. From my experience, I tend to agree with him. After all, what is Super Fil but epoxy and micro with a super mix job. Larry Flesner KR builder, Tripacer driver, skydiver hauler ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: battery size? From: "Tim Bellville" Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:19:20 -0500 X-Message-Number: 11 I saw something like that in "Kitplanes" a wile back. The guy was holding it in the palm of his hand. Lawn tractor batteries are about a heavy as a gel cell,and just as powerful, but they are hard to fit in an engine compartment due to size. On the plus side,they are real cheap and you can find them anywhere. I have been using one in my Sonerai I , with a subr. starter. One other nice feature is they have built in shunts at the terminals. There are two common sizes that I have found, I use the lighter one(about 5 lbs.. )These Batteries are also mant. free. Tim -----Original Message----- From: WGLIDE78@aol.com To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:35 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: battery size? >I'll probably never find the reference material, but in the last year I read >about a supper light high amp battery called a start stick for aircraft >---I'll look around and see if I can find it---maybe someone else knows >about it? > Jeff G >wglide78@aol.com > Seattle > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: Sonerai1@worldshare.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-177886C@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Micro Problems From: "Seifert, Richard E" Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:13:44 -0800 X-Message-Number: 12 Too late I found out that micro doesn't sand like I thought it would = after filling staple holes. I was sure I had read that it sanded rather = easily. Wrong. I left excess micro on the fuselage, thinking like I was = finishing sheet rock, but now it is going to take me several days to get = it sanded as smooth as I want it. Micro sure clogs up sandpaper. Now a = question - how about Smooth Prime over the epoxy sealer on the fuselage? = Maybe then I could get back to the "baby butt" smooth finish I had = before I filled the staple holes Ed Blocher Moody, AL mailto: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com Ed You will have a lot better luck with your micro if you mix it very dry; so dry that you have trouble getting the micro to mix. It should look grainy and should stand up for some time when you pull the mixing stick out. You will need to wet the area with epoxy where you plan to apply the micro, but you should find it sands very easily when dry. One big word of caution. Micro over 1/32" will crack over time and screw up a good paint job unless it is covered with cloth. You can use a very light hobby cloth for this purpose. My paint was perfect for about two years and then began to crack where the thicker micro was. I plan to include the hobby cloth when I repaint. Rich Seifert KR-2 N56SR ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Rudders & taxi directional control From: Tlongcrier@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:16:16 EST X-Message-Number: 13 In a message dated 2/23/00 4:50:55 AM Central Standard Time, fly@paradise.net.nz writes: << he problems begin when I try to taxi and sometimes end up doing 360's on the taxiway much to my embarresment. You can see in the photograph on >> Dave - Do I remember correctly that in an earlier post you said the problem occurred when, in taxing, only when you raised the tail? If so, check your main gear wheel alignment. (It should, of course, be in alignment whether the tail wheel is on the ground or not - so check it anyway.) As you know, if out of alignment, lots of squirelly things czn happen. Some like a little toe in, some like a little toe out. Personally, I lean to a little toe in. Good luck T Thurman Longcrier TLongcrier@aol.com Florence, AL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: battery size? From: larry flesner Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:33:56 -0600 X-Message-Number: 14 At 11:34 PM 2/22/00 EST, you wrote: >I'll probably never find the reference material, but in the last year I read >about a supper light high amp battery called a start stick for aircraft >---I'll look around and see if I can find it---maybe someone else knows >about it? > Jeff G >wglide78@aol.com >=========================================================================== === Fellow netters, One of the people in the original testing and marketing of the "Start Stick" lives here in southern Illinois and is a member of our EAA chapter. His name is Dave Ekstrom. This is a super hi-tech battery with technology developed by NASA. It is a light weight, high energy, short duration output and I think you will see a great deal of them in the future. I'm not sure if it's properties make it an ideal primary battery or not. They were in the process of signing contracts with some company for exclusive marketing rights and I don't know where that stands right now. Imagine starting a T-33 with a battery the size and weight of a triple cell Mag-lite. (that might be a slight exaggeration but these things are awsome!!) I was going to give Dave's e-mail address but decided that rather than him getting a hundred e-mails, I would ask him to e-mail me with some info and I'll forward it to the net. Larry Flesner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: lesson learned From: Mike Mims Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 15 I used plain ole wood filler paste (Dap I think) from home depot to fill the staple holes. Why use something as hard as micro? --- larry flesner wrote: > At 06:59 PM 2/22/00 -0600, you wrote: > > Too late I found out that micro doesn't sand > like I thought it would > >after filling staple holes. Ed Blocher > >Moody, AL > >mailto: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com > ===== ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] ---Y2K Beetle--- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: lesson learned From: cartera Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:32:05 -0700 X-Message-Number: 16 Mike Mims wrote: > > I used plain ole wood filler paste (Dap I think) from > home depot to fill the staple holes. Why use something > as hard as micro? > > --- larry flesner wrote: > > At 06:59 PM 2/22/00 -0600, you wrote: > > > Too late I found out that micro doesn't sand > > like I thought it would > > >after filling staple holes. Ed Blocher > > >Moody, AL > > >mailto: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com > > > > ===== > ........| > .......-^- > ....-/_____\- > ...(O\__o__/O) > ...[#]oxxxo[#] > ---Y2K Beetle--- > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cartera@cuug.ab.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17454M@telelists.com See what common sense does!!! -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: lesson learned From: Laheze@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:43:04 EST X-Message-Number: 17 Micro will clog up sandpaper only if it is not cured totally or has been mixed improperly. Also remember that if and when it has been applied to a softer surface than itself will be after it has cured that the sanding process has to be done very carefully, or while applying too much pressure to your sandpaper/board you may be sanding away some of your wood or foam around the epoxy without cutting down the epoxy which was your prime goal. Happy sanding Larry Howell laheze@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: secondary ignition system on VW Happy covversion From: "BillStarrs" Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:50:46 -0700 X-Message-Number: 18 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF7ED6.887F2BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark the firng order is 1234 and it is a VW. I had the wires connected = correctly and the engine was runing fine, but disconected them to do = some work,and now it won't start. I must have switched the spark wires = leading back to the coils. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Langford To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 5:08 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: secondary ignition system on VW Happy = covversion =20 =20 Bill wrote: =20 >Can anyone tell me where the wires coming off the coils go to which = cylinders? The firing order is 1,2,3,4 =20 If you're talking about a VW, the firing order is 1432. Number 1 is = the one (if you're standing at the prop spinner) on the far right, = number 2 is close right, number 3 is far left, and number 4 is close = left. Does that answer your question? If it's a Soob or something, I = pass... =20 Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF7ED6.887F2BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark the firng order is 1234 and it is a VW. = I had the=20 wires connected correctly and the engine was runing fine, but = disconected them=20 to do some work,and now it won't start. I must have switched the spark = wires=20 leading back to the coils.
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Mark Langford <langford@hiwaay.net>
To:= =20 KR-net users group <kr-net@telelists.com>
D= ate:=20 Tuesday, February 22, 2000 5:08 PM
Subject: [kr-net] = Re:=20 secondary ignition system on VW Happy = covversion

Bill = wrote:
 
>Can anyone tell me = where the wires=20 coming off the coils go to which cylinders? The firing order is=20 1,2,3,4
 
If you're talking about a VW, the firing order = is=20 1432.  Number 1 is the one (if you're standing at the prop = spinner) on=20 the far right, number 2 is close right, number 3 is far left, and = number 4=20 is close left.  Does that answer your question?  If it's a = Soob or=20 something, I pass...

Mark Langford,   Huntsville, Alabama
mailto:langford@hiwaay.net
see= KR2S=20 project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langfor= d
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF7ED6.887F2BC0-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: secondary ignition system on VW Happy covversion From: Mike Mims Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:03:27 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 19 The factory timing for a VW is 1432, maybe Rex at HAPI relabeled it for simplicity but it is 1432. If you have the coils with the dual leads coming off of them what you need to do is find the coil that is firing when two of the cylinders are at TDC and hook those two leads to those cylinders. Hook the remaining leads to the two at BDC. The coils fire both plugs at the same time regardless if its on the compression stroke or the exhaust stroke. Its really a rather simple setup. --- BillStarrs wrote: > Mark the firng order is 1234 and it is a VW. > Mark said > If you're talking about a VW, the firing order > is 1432. ===== ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] ---Y2K Beetle--- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: battery size? From: "Cary Honeywell" Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:51:25 -0500 X-Message-Number: 20 I'm using a 12 volt 18ah Gel Cell battery. Works just fine. - Cary - -Cary Honeywell - Ottawa Ontario Canada caryh@home.com ve3ev@rac.ca Home page http://24.112.208.98/ KR2 area http://24.112.208.98/kr2/kr2.shtml -----Original Message----- From: Mark Langford To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 9:58 AM Subject: [kr-net] battery size? >BatteryHeads, > >I'd like to hear from anybody flying with a tiny battery and getting away >with it. Richard Mole is using an 8Ah in his 2.2L JPX powered Jodel, and >I've even heard of folks using a motorcycle or lawn tractor battery in a KR. >I decided to go with a 16Ah, rather than the more common 25 or 35. It >weighs 13.5 pounds, rather than the more usual 21 or 27. There are more >details of my battery research (and twisted logic) at >http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kmarkl.html#update . Any comments are >welcome... > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama >mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: caryh@home.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-62695J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: kr-net digest: February 22, 2000 From: SRMAKISH@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:07:09 EST X-Message-Number: 21 In a message dated 2/23/00 6:45:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, kr-net@telelists.com writes: << 71 >> In regards to cross winds, I land with one all the time. Our airport at Boca has runway 5-23. Always 90 degrees to the ocean wind. I have landed with cross winds around 25 mph with no problem, you just have to remember what the rudder is for. Also what helps me is my Kr-2 is about 800 lbs empty weight. It seems to get fatter each year just like the rest of us over 50 something guys. Steve Makish ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Battery From: Gary & Lynn Bunch Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:45:48 -0600 X-Message-Number: 22 --------------C0D5128104F38965283EB57A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out this little battery UltraStart Red Gary Alvin, Tx --------------C0D5128104F38965283EB57A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out this little battery     UltraStart Red

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Alvin, Tx --------------C0D5128104F38965283EB57A-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: new construction mateiral... From: "J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd." Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:14:25 -0600 X-Message-Number: 23 ----------------------------------------------------- Why use foam between framing members and then remove it? It's expensive and time consuming. Just buy the panels or layup your own panels and use it like plywood. Epoxy the Parabeam panel to fus framing like plywood. The end edges may have to be epoxy filled. Good material to make wing tanks also, KRRon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: The 2001 Gathering From: "cleo greenhaw" Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:51:32 -0800 X-Message-Number: 24 Dear netters: I have listed in the past that our local EAA chapter would like to host the 2001 gathering here in Ponca City Oklahoma. The response has been about 10 to 1 for it. I have waited about 2 months for any other feed back. Our chapter has plenty of space and help to host this. This summer we have been chosen to host the EAA B-17 venture here in Ponca City. So you know we can put on a good program. We have plenty of motels and eating places, with a national acclaimed Mexican resturant here on the field. So at this time I am notifing you all (a little talk) that at the 2000 gathering I will have our bid submitted. Cleo at cleo@fullnet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: The 2001 Gathering From: flyer@clas.net Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:56:42 -0600 X-Message-Number: 25 Oklahoma is a good central location and it appears your chapter is very active group. You have my vote! When is the B-17 venture? Bruce cleo greenhaw wrote: > > Dear netters: I have listed in the past that our local EAA chapter would > like to host the 2001 gathering here in Ponca City Oklahoma. The response > has been about 10 to 1 for it. I have waited about 2 months for any other > feed back. Our chapter has plenty of space and help to host this. This > summer we have been chosen to host the EAA B-17 venture here in Ponca City. > So you know we can put on a good program. > > We have plenty of motels and eating places, with a national acclaimed > Mexican resturant here on the field. So at this time I am notifing you all > (a little talk) that at the 2000 gathering I will have our bid submitted. > Cleo at cleo@fullnet.net > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: flyer@clas.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-57397T@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: The 2001 Gathering From: "Cleo Greenhaw" Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:10:18 -0600 X-Message-Number: 26 Bruce the B-17 deal is set for the 21st of June. Next year, I guess that I will be the chapter president and the gatherin will be my responsibility. Cleo at cleo@fullnet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: To: KR-net users group Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 9:56 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: The 2001 Gathering > Oklahoma is a good central location and it appears your chapter is very > active group. > You have my vote! When is the B-17 venture? > Bruce > > cleo greenhaw wrote: > > > > Dear netters: I have listed in the past that our local EAA chapter would > > like to host the 2001 gathering here in Ponca City Oklahoma. The response > > has been about 10 to 1 for it. I have waited about 2 months for any other > > feed back. Our chapter has plenty of space and help to host this. This > > summer we have been chosen to host the EAA B-17 venture here in Ponca City. > > So you know we can put on a good program. > > > > We have plenty of motels and eating places, with a national acclaimed > > Mexican resturant here on the field. So at this time I am notifing you all > > (a little talk) that at the 2000 gathering I will have our bid submitted. > > Cleo at cleo@fullnet.net > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: flyer@clas.net > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-57397T@telelists.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cleo@fullnet.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-103727X@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: secondary ignition system on VW Happy covversion From: "BillStarrs" Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:02:30 -0700 X-Message-Number: 27 Thanks Mike, What would we do without you? Bill Starrs, Prescott AZ -----Original Message----- From: Mike Mims To: KR-net users group Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 3:05 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: secondary ignition system on VW Happy covversion >The factory timing for a VW is 1432, maybe Rex at HAPI >relabeled it for simplicity but it is 1432. If you >have the coils with the dual leads coming off of them >what you need to do is find the coil that is firing >when two of the cylinders are at TDC and hook those >two leads to those cylinders. Hook the remaining leads >to the two at BDC. The coils fire both plugs at the >same time regardless if its on the compression stroke >or the exhaust stroke. Its really a rather simple >setup. > >--- BillStarrs wrote: >> Mark the firng order is 1234 and it is a VW. > > >Mark said > >> If you're talking about a VW, the firing order >> is 1432. > >===== >........| >.......-^- >....-/_____\- >...(O\__o__/O) >...[#]oxxxo[#] >---Y2K Beetle--- >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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