From: "KR-net users group digest" To: "kr-net digest recipients" Subject: kr-net digest: March 04, 2000 Date: Sunday, March 05, 2000 1:14 AM KR-NET Digest2 for Saturday, March 04, 2000. 1. Plans 2. Re: Revmaster hub bolt 3. Re: Subaru Fuel Injection 4. Re: Subaru Fuel Injection 5. Fw: Fuel Tanks 6. Finally finished 7. Bad News... 8. [Fwd: kr2 propellers] 9. [Fwd: KR2 RUDDERS .] 10. Ross It will work... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Plans From: "Dave Vieira" Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 08:25:07 -0800 X-Message-Number: 1 Hello Does anyone have or know where i could get good used KR2 plans and or builders manual? Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Revmaster hub bolt From: "macwood" Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 18:38:09 -0000 X-Message-Number: 2 Mike, Thanks for the info. My Revmaster hub hasn't got any holes in it that would correspond with the bolt locking holes. It's an old engine (n# A2132) ,and there's no mention of locking it in the manual. Any ideas? Thanks, Mac W Hampshire --- Original Message ----- From: Mike Mims To: KR-net users group Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 2:33 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Revmaster hub bolt > > macwood wrote: > > > > Hi Netters! My hub retaining bolt has 3 holes drilled > > diagonally thro' the head(90deg to the usual wire locking position). > > Is this meant for locking the bolt? It wasn't locked when I removed > > it. Thanks , Mac W > > > > Hampshire, England > > Yes the bolt head is drilled for the long cotter pin that goes through > the hub and bolt head. > > > -- > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > Micheal Mims > Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( > http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ > mirror @ > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > http://members.home.com/mikemims/ > Aliso Viejo CA > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: macwood@tinyworld.co.uk > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-161811R@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Subaru Fuel Injection From: "The LeTempt Family" Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:04:54 -0600 X-Message-Number: 3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01BF85EA.FFF43860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A company called Simple Digital Systems sells a EFI and EI controller in = one unit that replaces all the car computer stuff. They are building a = Subaru powered RV and have a huge amount of information on Suburas on = their web site at http://www.sdsefi.com/ I am sure there are other companies that sell similar items that may = work for you. Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: JC Marais=20 To: KR-net users group=20 Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 11:41 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Subaru Fuel Injection -----Original Message----- From: ldeckert Is anyone using Fuel Injection with an EA-81?=20 My engine is a 1984 fuel injected, turbo. I've been told that making = the fuel injection work is a problem. If it is a problem, can I somehow = plug the injector holes in the heads? ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01BF85EA.FFF43860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A company called Simple Digital Systems sells a EFI = and EI=20 controller in one unit that replaces all the car computer stuff.  = They are=20 building a Subaru powered RV and have a huge amount of information on = Suburas on=20 their web site at http://www.sdsefi.com/
 
I am sure there are other companies that sell = similar items=20 that may work for you.
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 JC=20 Marais
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 = 11:41=20 PM
Subject: [kr-net] Re: Subaru = Fuel=20 Injection

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 ldeckert <ldeckert@gateway.net>
Is anyone using Fuel Injection with = an EA-81?=20
My engine is a 1984 fuel injected, = turbo. I've=20 been told that making the fuel injection work is a problem. If it is = a=20 problem, can I somehow plug the injector holes in the = heads?
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01BF85EA.FFF43860-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Subaru Fuel Injection From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 17:47:25 -0600 X-Message-Number: 4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01BF8601.B35366E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >My engine is a 1984 fuel injected, turbo. I've been told that making = the fuel injection work is a problem. If it is a >problem, can I somehow = plug the injector holes in the heads? I don't EVEN claim to know diddly about Subarus, but a recent issue of = Contact magazine had an article on injection, and the author mentioned = that port fuel injected manifolds were almost always a bad choice for = carbureted systems, since they usually were designed without concern for = fuel collecting on the manifold walls (since the fuel is injected at the = port). There's an article detailing construction of a carbon fiber = intake manifold for an EA81 engine in the October 96 KROnline issue at = http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kro10_96.html . I plan to use this = method (or something similar) to build an intake manifold for my = Corvair. That same issue of Contact had what I'd consider to be THE definitive = article on detonation and pre-ignition, written by the guy who designed = the combustion chambers on the Northstar engine. That same issue also = had an article on William Wynne on the Corvair conversion. Contact's = web page is at http://www.nonprofitnet.com/contact/ ... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ----- Original Message -----=20 From: The LeTempt Family=20 To: KR-net users group=20 Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 3:04 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Subaru Fuel Injection A company called Simple Digital Systems sells a EFI and EI controller = in one unit that replaces all the car computer stuff. They are building = a Subaru powered RV and have a huge amount of information on Suburas on = their web site at http://www.sdsefi.com/ I am sure there are other companies that sell similar items that may = work for you. Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: JC Marais=20 To: KR-net users group=20 Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 11:41 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Subaru Fuel Injection -----Original Message----- From: ldeckert Is anyone using Fuel Injection with an EA-81?=20 My engine is a 1984 fuel injected, turbo. I've been told that = making the fuel injection work is a problem. If it is a problem, can I = somehow plug the injector holes in the heads? ------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01BF8601.B35366E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>My engine is a 1984 = fuel injected,=20 turbo. I've been told that making the fuel injection work is a problem. = If it is=20 a >problem, can I somehow plug the injector holes in the=20 heads?
 
I don't EVEN claim to know diddly about Subarus, but = a recent=20 issue of Contact magazine had an article on injection, and the author = mentioned=20 that port fuel injected manifolds were almost always a bad choice for = carbureted=20 systems, since they usually were designed without concern for fuel = collecting on=20 the manifold walls (since the fuel is injected at the port).  = There's an=20 article detailing construction of a carbon fiber intake manifold for an = EA81=20 engine in the October 96 KROnline issue at http://home.hiwaa= y.net/~langford/kro10_96.html . =20 I plan to use this method (or something similar) to build an intake = manifold for=20 my Corvair.
 
That same issue of Contact had what I'd consider to = be THE=20 definitive article on detonation and pre-ignition, written by the guy = who=20 designed the combustion chambers on the Northstar engine.  That = same issue=20 also had an article on William Wynne on the Corvair conversion.  = Contact's=20 web page is at http://www.nonprofitnet.com= /contact/ ...

Mark Langford,   Huntsville, Alabama
mailto:langford@hiwaay.net
see= KR2S=20 project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langfor= d
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 The=20 LeTempt Family
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 = 3:04=20 PM
Subject: [kr-net] Re: Subaru = Fuel=20 Injection

A company called Simple Digital Systems sells a = EFI and EI=20 controller in one unit that replaces all the car computer stuff.  = They=20 are building a Subaru powered RV and have a huge amount of information = on=20 Suburas on their web site at http://www.sdsefi.com/
 
I am sure there are other companies that sell = similar items=20 that may work for you.
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 JC=20 Marais
To: KR-net users=20 group
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 = 11:41=20 PM
Subject: [kr-net] Re: Subaru = Fuel=20 Injection

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 ldeckert <ldeckert@gateway.net>
Is anyone using Fuel Injection = with an EA-81?=20
My engine is a 1984 fuel = injected, turbo.=20 I've been told that making the fuel injection work is a problem. = If it is=20 a problem, can I somehow plug the injector holes in the=20 heads?
 
=
 
------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01BF8601.B35366E0-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Fw: Fuel Tanks From: "Ron Eason" Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 17:48:10 -0600 X-Message-Number: 5 For those that are building Header Fuel Tanks, the latest SUMMIT performance catalog has a 16 Gal. Fuel Cell 25"x17"x8" and a 5 Gal 13x13x8 all have 2" deep sumps and two-8AN drains with one -6AN vent with locking fuel cap. www.summit.com I have a 7 Fuel Cell Gallon tank feed by fuel pumps from wing tanks they work good. For those with turbo VW's check this out http://www.turbocity.com/RapidResponse.htm a fuel injected, turbocharged VW. I am checking this out. KRRon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Finally finished From: DClarke351@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 20:15:37 EST X-Message-Number: 6 N9296M is finally finished being painted. It is all together and ready to fly again! It will probably do so Sun or Mon. Don Clarke El Paso Tx ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Bad News... From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 19:04:03 +0000 X-Message-Number: 7 Teleport was bought out by "OneMain" and has notified me that they will be discontinuing email list services effective April 5th 2000. I will be looking for a new ISP to do email list serving of our list, along with hosting of the krnet.org website. I will also be taking my personal website along with it. It looks like the friendly superior service I had come to expect from Teleport is gone. To there credit, they have put over $10,000 into the Lyris software eventually hoping to charge for the list services. The software was never stable enough for them, and the older majordomo software was too much of a burden for their internal network and support staff it appears. They have given me a list of alternatives, and I hope to have some more information on the new home for KR-net prior to the middle of March. -- Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [Fwd: kr2 propellers] From: Ross Youngblood Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 19:24:36 +0000 X-Message-Number: 8 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------38C881DB8FA03305AA0D2D11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------38C881DB8FA03305AA0D2D11 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: by mail1 (mbox krnet) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Mar 4 18:15:39 2000) X-From_: StephenSolley@farming.co.uk Mon Feb 14 08:03:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: krnet@teleport.com Received: (qmail 16608 invoked by uid 10244); 14 Feb 2000 08:03:20 -0000 Delivered-To: krnet+krnet.org-X-krnet@krnet.org Received: (qmail 16600 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2000 08:03:19 -0000 Received: from odyssey.farmline.com (root@193.218.222.20) by smtp2.teleport.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2000 08:03:19 -0000 Received: from default (60-154-fol.intensive.co.uk [194.93.154.60]) by odyssey.farmline.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA13773 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:05:08 GMT Message-ID: <000801bf76c2$542e0ba0$3c9a5dc2@default> From: "StephenSolley" To: "ross youngblood" Subject: kr2 propellers Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:05:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF76C2.3BE416C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF76C2.3BE416C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo I have just completed a re-build on a kr2. I have found that the three = blade propeller on it is allowing the vw engine(1834cc) too many revs. = Could some one suggest to me the correct pitch for a two blade = propeller, bearing in mind that I have also gone to fixed undercarriage = giving me an extra six inches. Hope this makes sense. Regards Stephen PS. If you want to know more about my machine I will tell you later. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF76C2.3BE416C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hallo
I have just completed a re-build on a = kr2. I have=20 found that the three blade propeller on it is allowing the vw = engine(1834cc) too=20 many revs. Could some one suggest to me the correct pitch for a two = blade=20 propeller, bearing in mind that I have also gone to fixed undercarriage = giving=20 me an extra six inches.
Hope this makes sense.
Regards Stephen
PS. If you want to know more about my = machine I=20 will tell you later.
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF76C2.3BE416C0-- --------------38C881DB8FA03305AA0D2D11-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [Fwd: KR2 RUDDERS .] From: Ross Youngblood Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 19:28:49 +0000 X-Message-Number: 9 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------48B56718858E684FF908D8D4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------48B56718858E684FF908D8D4 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: Received: by mail1 (mbox krnet) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sat Mar 4 18:15:54 2000) X-From_: colin.hales@dial.pipex.com Tue Feb 22 00:58:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: krnet@teleport.com Received: (qmail 4548 invoked by uid 10244); 22 Feb 2000 00:58:41 -0000 Delivered-To: krnet+krnet.org-X-krnet@krnet.org Received: (qmail 4537 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2000 00:58:39 -0000 Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (158.43.128.27) by smtp8.teleport.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2000 00:58:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 15458 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2000 00:58:33 -0000 Received: from ab115.du.pipex.com (HELO 193.130.241.115) (193.130.241.115) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2000 00:58:33 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 0:53 0000 From: colin.hales@dial.pipex.com Subject: KR2 RUDDERS . To: krnet@krnet.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Dear KR2 people , Hi there , my name is Colin Hales . I started building my KR2 four years ago - G-BSTL, fitted with a VW 1834 engine, a fixed undercarriage and with a total weight of less than 600 lbs (which is light after adding all our govening body's extra requirements - believe me !), but most of it concentrated at the front of the aircraft to help with the C of G . The aircraft is finally undergoing flight- testing. My allocated test pilotand I are about half-way through the test-schedule and the overall performance of the aircraft is more than satisfactory , but not to say excellent. We have one major concern which is the cross-wind performance of the aircraft on take off. I have a fully steerable tailwheel and can easily control the direction as long as the tail is on the ground. The problem occurs as the tail lifts : at low speed and with a stbd cross wind higher than 5 knots, it seems practically impossible to keep the aircraft straight. The torque of the engine contributes mostly to this quite sudden and almost uncontrolable swing as soon as the tail wheel lifts , and also the gyroscopic effect , but not in as major proportions. After investigating different ways to overcome the problem (tail wheel springs, etc), my test pilot and I came to the conclusion that the best solution would probably be to build a larger rudder. I had a look at your very impressive website, hoping to find a picture of a KR2 with a bigger rudder, but couldn't find any... At which point I wonder if I am the only KR2 builder/pilot to experience this problem and if so - why ?! I would very much appreciate hearing from you or from other KR2 builders and get your advice/comments on that issue. I have only just subscribed to the KRnet mailing list but I understand it could take some time before I can become a member of it. Therefore please do not hesitate to forward this e-mail to other KR2 builders if it may speed things up a bit . Thanks very much, Colin Hales --------------48B56718858E684FF908D8D4-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Ross It will work... From: "Cleo Greenhaw" Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:17:57 -0600 X-Message-Number: 10 Ross: we all appreciate you and your efforts. Let all know if we can help. cleo@fullnet.net ---- Original Message ----- From: Ross R. Youngblood To: KR-net users group Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 1:04 PM Subject: [kr-net] Bad News... > Teleport was bought out by "OneMain" and has notified me that they > will be discontinuing email list services effective April 5th 2000. > > I will be looking for a new ISP to do email list serving of our > list, along with hosting of the krnet.org website. I will also be > taking > my personal website along with it. > > It looks like the friendly superior service I had come to expect from > Teleport is gone. > > To there credit, they have put over $10,000 into the Lyris software > eventually hoping to charge for the list services. The software was > never stable enough for them, and the older majordomo software > was too much of a burden for their internal network and support > staff it appears. > > They have given me a list of alternatives, and I hope to have some > more information on the new home for KR-net prior to the > middle of March. > > -- Ross > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cleo@fullnet.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-103727X@telelists.com > --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@ipinc.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com