From: "KR-net users group digest" To: "kr-net digest recipients" Subject: kr-net digest: March 11, 2000 Date: Sunday, March 12, 2000 12:04 AM KR-NET Digest2 for Saturday, March 11, 2000. 1. Re: kr-net digest: March 10, 2000 2. Custom Planes magazine 3. Gathering videos? 4. splitting VW case 5. Re: splitting VW case 6. Re: [kr-net] 7. Re: Gathering videos? 8. Re: splitting VW case 9. flying the KR2 10. Re: flying the KR2 11. re: NSI aero products inflight adujustable pitch 12. Re: flying the KR2 13. Re: flying the KR2 14. Re: flying the KR2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: kr-net digest: March 10, 2000 From: SRMAKISH@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:38:51 EST X-Message-Number: 1 Bobby is right about the "step" My Kr does OK at 150-155 Ind. If you lower the nose a little bit, it gets to about 180 and when you level off it will stay at 165-168 Ind. If you lower the nose down to 100 ft per min decent it will get to 200 mph very quick Regards Steve Makish ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Custom Planes magazine From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:23:15 -0600 X-Message-Number: 2 I was just reading the new issue of Custom Planes magazine. It has a lot of good meaty homebuilder stuff in it, and doesn't "do" warbirds. Mims' Sky PIg has already appeared there. Well, anyway, they're trying to grow a bit, and will send anybody that wants one a free copy. Send your name and address to: Hooked on building issue Custom Planes Y-Visionary Publishing 265 S. Anita Drive, Suite 120 Orange, CA 92868-3310 They have a 98% renewal rate which should tell you something about the quality of their publication... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Gathering videos? From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 11:12:30 -0600 X-Message-Number: 3 KRNetHeads, After the last Gathering I put together a video of all the forums (Corvair, Great Plains VW, composite construction, test flights, and Smooth Prime, etc.) and sent several "rental" copies around, with each copy circulating to about 5 people each. I asked that each guy only keep it 3 or 4 days, recording it if desired, and then send it on to the next guy on the list (along with a $10 check to me, of course). Now, after SIX MONTHS, I'm hearing that a couple of these tapes never made it all the way around. While I'm sure that none of our fellow KR builders are scummy enough to simply pocket the tape (depriving others of the opportunity), apparently there are a few forgetful souls who forgot to forward them to the next people on the list. I still have two copies of this tape, and will send them around again for those who's tapes never made it. Email me privately with your mailing address (again) and I'll put you on the list to receive the "rental' tape, which will go out on Monday. Sorry for the delay... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: splitting VW case From: "Jon Sinon" Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:32:09 -0800 X-Message-Number: 4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0408_01BF8B3C.AC34BFE0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0409_01BF8B3C.AC34BFE0" ------=_NextPart_001_0409_01BF8B3C.AC34BFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable does anyone have any simple methods of splitting a Type 4 case? ------=_NextPart_001_0409_01BF8B3C.AC34BFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
does anyone have any simple methods of = splitting a=20 Type 4 case?
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Jon Sinon wrote:
 
>does anyone have any simple methods = of=20 splitting a Type 4 case?
 
My guess is that you may not have all of the bolts=20 removed.  There's one practically invisible one sunk down about 4" = into the=20 case from the left side, right between the left and right pairs of = pushrod tube=20 holes for number 3 and 4 cylinders.  Other than that, just tap on = those=20 little pads with a block of wood and a hammer and it will come apart, = assuming=20 all the bolts are out, the oil pump is removed, and that sort of obvious = stuff.  Whatever you do don't pry on any case sealing surfaces with = something like a screwdriver, 'cause it'll leak = forever...

Mark Langford,   Huntsville, Alabama
mailto:langford@hiwaay.net
see= KR2S=20 project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langfor= d
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0052_01BF8B4F.CFD4CBD0-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [kr-net] From: "Joe Beyer" Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:09:43 -0800 X-Message-Number: 6 The accessory case should be mounted on a bare VW case with a line boreing tool installed, and gradually worked out to the desired demention. I have this type of tooling. The Mag hole has to true to the center line of the case. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Bellville To: KR-net users group Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 7:03 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: [kr-net] > Can anyone give me some ideas how to increase the size of my mag mount hole > in my accessory case from 3" to 3 1/4"?Every thing lines up but that. > I've considered honing it out but I'm worried about it remaining true. > Thanks > Tim > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: joejbeyer@earthlink.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-181950O@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Gathering videos? From: WGLIDE78@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:53:45 EST X-Message-Number: 7 Mark --I might have one of your tapes. I sent you $$$ for purchase of same but when they came there was two tapes in the package which appeared to be of same copy? I didn't know if there was supposed to be two consecutive tapes or really what I was supposed to receive. I therefor put it in the don't sweat the small stuff category and forgot about it. I still am not dissatisfied with your efforts but am pointing out to simply provide a more positive possible scenario than people skipping with tapes. Jeff G wglide78@aol.com Seattle ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: splitting VW case From: "Jon Sinon" Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:23:05 -0800 X-Message-Number: 8 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_041E_01BF8B7E.768AA0C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mark, that was the one I missed..sure are a lot of those little = suckers. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Langford=20 To: KR-net users group=20 Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 9:49 AM Subject: [kr-net] Re: splitting VW case Jon Sinon wrote: =20 >does anyone have any simple methods of splitting a Type 4 case? My guess is that you may not have all of the bolts removed. There's = one practically invisible one sunk down about 4" into the case from the = left side, right between the left and right pairs of pushrod tube holes = for number 3 and 4 cylinders. Other than that, just tap on those little = pads with a block of wood and a hammer and it will come apart, assuming = all the bolts are out, the oil pump is removed, and that sort of obvious = stuff. Whatever you do don't pry on any case sealing surfaces with = something like a screwdriver, 'cause it'll leak forever... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------=_NextPart_000_041E_01BF8B7E.768AA0C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Mark, that was the one I = missed..sure are a=20 lot of those little suckers.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark=20 Langford
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 = 9:49=20 AM
Subject: [kr-net] Re: splitting = VW=20 case

Jon Sinon wrote:
 
>does anyone have any simple = methods of=20 splitting a Type 4 case?
 
My guess is that you may not have all of the bolts = removed.  There's one practically invisible one sunk down about = 4" into=20 the case from the left side, right between the left and right pairs of = pushrod=20 tube holes for number 3 and 4 cylinders.  Other than that, just = tap on=20 those little pads with a block of wood and a hammer and it will come = apart,=20 assuming all the bolts are out, the oil pump is removed, and that sort = of=20 obvious stuff.  Whatever you do don't pry on any case sealing = surfaces=20 with something like a screwdriver, 'cause it'll leak=20 forever...

Mark Langford,   Huntsville, Alabama
mailto:langford@hiwaay.net
see= KR2S=20 project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langfor= d
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_041E_01BF8B7E.768AA0C0-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: flying the KR2 From: "David Barner" Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:08:39 -0800 X-Message-Number: 9 Could some one give me some general charicistics of how the KR2 responds I understand it's not a hands off flier, but i have read that some people say their's is. Did they do something to correct a problem? Wondering? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: flying the KR2 From: "Joe Beyer" Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:07:24 -0800 X-Message-Number: 10 The KR-2 responds rather quickly compared to a Cessna 150 in roll, but even quicker in pitch. By having a slightly foreward CG, the pitch sensitivity is slightly diminished. The trim control is less sensitive. With a passenger the CG moves aft and the pitch sensitivity increases noticeably. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Barner To: KR-net users group Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 7:08 PM Subject: [kr-net] flying the KR2 > Could some one give me some general charicistics of how the KR2 responds > I understand it's not a hands off flier, but i have read that some people > say their's is. Did they do something to correct a problem? > Wondering? > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: joejbeyer@earthlink.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-181950O@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: re: NSI aero products inflight adujustable pitch From: "Stuart Mather" Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:47:16 -0800 X-Message-Number: 11 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01BF8C31.DC54E2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'day everyone, I noticed in the last Custom Planes issue an ad for the NSI aero = products inflight adjustable pitch prop hub. Any opinions?, dirt? = endorsements? etc. I haven't even checked the price yet but the dream of = an affordable reliable pitch change mechanism beckons. I remember a = recent chorus of disapproval about the ivoprop design. NSI Aero Products = doesn't seem to advertise in Kitplanes, which struck me as a bit odd if = they've got a fair dinkum design.=20 cheers , Stuart Mather Brisbane Australia Email: stilt@one.net.au ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01BF8C31.DC54E2E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
G'day everyone,
I noticed in the last Custom Planes issue an ad for = the NSI=20 aero products inflight adjustable pitch prop hub. Any opinions?, dirt?=20 endorsements? etc. I haven't even checked the price yet but the dream of = an=20 affordable reliable pitch change mechanism beckons. I remember a recent = chorus=20 of disapproval about the ivoprop design. NSI Aero Products doesn't seem = to=20 advertise in Kitplanes, which struck me as a bit odd if they've got a = fair=20 dinkum design.
cheers ,
Stuart Mather
Brisbane Australia
Email: stilt@one.net.au
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01BF8C31.DC54E2E0-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: flying the KR2 From: AviationMech@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:13:04 EST X-Message-Number: 12 I once had the opportunit to fly in the back seat of a Phantom F4E, and was allowed to fly. I gripped the stick and the plane began to porpoise. The pilot told me to relax my grip on the stick. I followed his direction and the plane flew smoothly. On the first flight in my KR, I had the same problem. Over the years I have learned to move the stick to change the aircrafts attitude, and the rest of the time the stick rests in my hand, but never tightly gripped. There is a difference between pitch sensitivy and hands free. If for example you trim the craft for level flight and then lean forward, the plane will dive. And, if you lean your head aft, guess what. You should be able to see by this that if you stick you head in a map and fail to keep one eye on the sky, you will quickly assume an unusual attitude. If you attempt to fly hands free while reading a map and accidently bump the stick with your leg, you can go inverted before you regain control. These are the qualities that make the KR fun to fly, and a bit scary for some. Orma http://members.aol.com/aviationmech ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: flying the KR2 From: "Parley T. Byington" Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 23:52:13 -0800 X-Message-Number: 13 Orma You are very lucky to have had the opportunity to fly the F4-E, I worked on the simulator for that fine bird. I once figured up the many hours I spent flying the simulators, which included most of the models i.e. F4-D, F4-E, RF4-C and the F4-G and it amount to over 4000 hours. I never was able to get permission to get a ride in the real thing. I know that the many hours in these simulators definitely helped me when I first flew my KR-2. You are correct, the sensitivity or feel in the stick is very similar and the technique for stick inputs are the same. One has to be gentle and not over control either aircraft. I flew my bird for two hours today here in southern Nevada and enjoyed every minute of it. I also had the opportunity to fly a RV-4 with a good friend of mine for about an hour and forty minutes this morning. As you can see we are experiencing some wonderful flying weather here today. Happy flying to everyone Regards Parley (N54PB) parley@anv.net Henderson NV AviationMech@aol.com wrote: > I once had the opportunit to fly in the back seat of a Phantom F4E, and was > allowed to fly. I gripped the stick and the plane began to porpoise. The > pilot told me to relax my grip on the stick. I followed his direction and > the plane flew smoothly. On the first flight in my KR, I had the same > problem. Over the years I have learned to move the stick to change the > aircrafts attitude, and the rest of the time the stick rests in my hand, but > never tightly gripped. There is a difference between pitch sensitivy and > hands free. If for example you trim the craft for level flight and then > lean forward, the plane will dive. And, if you lean your head aft, guess > what. You should be able to see by this that if you stick you head in a map > and fail to keep one eye on the sky, you will quickly assume an unusual > attitude. If you attempt to fly hands free while reading a map and > accidently bump the stick with your leg, you can go inverted before you > regain control. These are the qualities that make the KR fun to fly, and a > bit scary for some. > > Orma > http://members.aol.com/aviationmech > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: parley@anv.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17599G@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: flying the KR2 From: "Joe Beyer" Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 00:01:28 -0800 X-Message-Number: 14 It all takes a little 'getting use to'. I had a similar problem with porposing on my first few flights, but I learned through experience to relax and don't grip the stick. Another thing about the KR is that it's a ruder airplane. That is when you roll into a turn, you have to coordinate the rudder the rudder with the ailerons like a Cessna. Not like a Lancair or Longeze where the fly in a bank, ball centered, without any rudder input. I'm told that RV's are that way too. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: KR-net users group Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 10:13 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: flying the KR2 > I once had the opportunit to fly in the back seat of a Phantom F4E, and was > allowed to fly. I gripped the stick and the plane began to porpoise. The > pilot told me to relax my grip on the stick. I followed his direction and > the plane flew smoothly. On the first flight in my KR, I had the same > problem. Over the years I have learned to move the stick to change the > aircrafts attitude, and the rest of the time the stick rests in my hand, but > never tightly gripped. There is a difference between pitch sensitivy and > hands free. If for example you trim the craft for level flight and then > lean forward, the plane will dive. And, if you lean your head aft, guess > what. You should be able to see by this that if you stick you head in a map > and fail to keep one eye on the sky, you will quickly assume an unusual > attitude. If you attempt to fly hands free while reading a map and > accidently bump the stick with your leg, you can go inverted before you > regain control. These are the qualities that make the KR fun to fly, and a > bit scary for some. > > Orma > http://members.aol.com/aviationmech > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: joejbeyer@earthlink.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-181950O@telelists.com > --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@ipinc.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com