From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 27 May 2000 01:58:51 -0000 Issue 34 Date: Friday, May 26, 2000 5:59 PM krnet Digest 27 May 2000 01:58:51 -0000 Issue 34 Topics (messages 735 through 764): Re: Composite Sandwich Question ... 735 by: Joe Beyer Stall warning device and etc. 736 by: Livingstone, Danny (DJ) 747 by: Mike Mims 755 by: indygeorge 762 by: virgnvs.juno.com 763 by: JEAN VERON 764 by: Joe Beyer Re: LIGHTS 737 by: GIJSEN Mark (BMB) 741 by: Ronald R. Eason 742 by: larry flesner Canopy 738 by: GIJSEN Mark (BMB) 740 by: Donald Reid Re: Carbon Fiber vs Kevlar 739 by: Mark Langford Why Kevlar? ... 743 by: APECORAR.steelcase.com 756 by: Donald Reid Oshkosh 2000 744 by: Kr2dream.aol.com Re: fuel gauge 745 by: Edwin Blocher Watsonville Fly-in 746 by: Jon Sinon GOT TA BE A BETTER WAY 748 by: Schmidt, Curtis 749 by: Schmidt, Curtis 753 by: Mike Mims 754 by: Ross Youngblood 757 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout 760 by: virgnvs.juno.com FOR SALE 750 by: Schmidt, Curtis 751 by: Schmidt, Curtis 759 by: virgnvs.juno.com Thank You! 752 by: Florin L Pintea Re: Oshkosh 2000? 758 by: virgnvs.juno.com 761 by: virgnvs.juno.com Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:21:04 -0700 To: "w.g. kirkland" , "Gaston Landry" , From: "Joe Beyer" Subject: Re: KR> Composite Sandwich Question ... Message-ID: <000e01bfc66d$9c9664a0$9940b23f@earthlink.net> The glass doesn't deteriorate but the foam under the glass will due to UV. Use Dupont 70S primer. mailto:joejbeyer@earthlink.net Portland, Ore. ----- Original Message ----- From: w.g. kirkland To: Gaston Landry ; Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:37 PM Subject: Re: KR> Composite Sandwich Question ... > Don't all glass's deteriorate under UV? Isn't that why u use a UV screen > when finishing? > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > > ---------- > > From: Gaston Landry > > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > > Subject: Re: KR> Composite Sandwich Question ... > > Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 4:27 PM > > > > > > I've heard somewhere that Kevlar deteriorates under UV... not sure if > that's > > true of ALL types of Kevlar, but I'm thinking if I wanted to use Kevlar > on > > one side of the sandwich, I'd pick the inside... (unless the heat from > the > > engine on the cowling could be an issue...) > > > > >From: Ross Youngblood > > > > >... Or, you can use Kevlar on one side of the > > >sandwich and glass (1 layer only) on the other... > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:08:57 +0200 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" Subject: Stall warning device and etc. Message-ID: <042104686D63D311B51A0000C110B8E4449AA6@sasltd06.sasol.com> Hello netters Have any of you installed or planning to install a stall warning device on your KRs? If so, what are you using? For those of you using a hot wire and foam method of construction what are you using to fill up the open gaps? Can spray can foam ( I think its polyurathane) be used in larger areas or will this melt the polystyrene foam? Cheers Danny Livingstone South Africa E-Mail: livd0124@natref.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:19:24 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> Stall warning device and etc. Message-ID: <20000526151924.7669.qmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" > > For those of you using a hot wire and foam method of > construction what are you using to fill up the open gaps? >>> I didn’t have any gaps. Always test anything you plan to use on polystyrene on a scrap piece. Recently I just used that "mix-n-pour" foam to repair the area I cut away for the landing gear mod. It worked fine. ===== ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] -----Y2K Bug--- Yes I drive one! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 13:25:11 -0700 To: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" , From: "indygeorge" Subject: Re: KR> Stall warning device and etc. Message-ID: <001301bfc750$be1f59e0$7d20c8cd@f6d3r3> ----- Original Message ----- From: Livingstone, Danny (DJ) To: Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 1:08 AM Subject: KR> Stall warning device and etc. > Hello netters > > Have any of you installed or planning to install a stall warning device on > your KRs? If so, what are you using? > > > > from indygeorge@escape.ca >1975 to 1985 issue of sport avaiation had an article on how to build angle of attack ( stall warning) from old air speed indicater. Some of you may still have that issue, if you find it let us know it was a very interesting article. I would very much like to build one for my little bird. > If you want an areo dymantic clean up (go fast) read Kent Pacer's Speed with Economy and Bruce Carmicheal's Personal Aircraft Drag Reduction. The ultimate would be to get someone professional with an areo dymanic program, and pay him to anyalize the KR1 - KR2. and once in for all we would know the shape and size of and position of the ferrings which our birdies so obviously need. I wouldn't mind contributing for this exciting possibility. You already had great success with the new air foil! >P.S. Kent Pacer's mustang 2 went from 165 MPH to 220+ with all only areo dymanic clean up. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:20:29 -0700 To: LIVD0124@natref.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Stall warning device and etc. Message-ID: <20000526.173058.-372385.4.virgnvs@juno.com> Careful!!! Spray foam will continue to expand if it gets hotter after construction. Bumps after glassing are not good. Virg On Fri, 26 May 2000 10:08:57 +0200 "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" writes: > Hello netters > > Have any of you installed or planning to install a stall warning > device on > your KRs? If so, what are you using? > > For those of you using a hot wire and foam method of construction > what are > you using to fill up the open gaps? Can spray can foam ( I think its > polyurathane) be used in larger areas or will this melt the > polystyrene > foam? > > Cheers > > Danny Livingstone > South Africa > E-Mail: livd0124@natref.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:27:24 -0500 To: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" , From: "JEAN VERON" Subject: Re: KR> Stall warning device and etc. Message-ID: <005a01bfc761$b6e85da0$2f111b3f@computer> A friend of mine sells an "Angle Of Attack Indicator " for homebuilts and ultralights. His web page is : www.riteangle.com . Jean Veron N4DD Broken Arrow, OK ----- Original Message ----- From: Livingstone, Danny (DJ) To: Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 3:08 AM Subject: KR> Stall warning device and etc. > Hello netters > > Have any of you installed or planning to install a stall warning device on > your KRs? If so, what are you using? > > For those of you using a hot wire and foam method of construction what are > you using to fill up the open gaps? Can spray can foam ( I think its > polyurathane) be used in larger areas or will this melt the polystyrene > foam? > > Cheers > > Danny Livingstone > South Africa > E-Mail: livd0124@natref.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 06:58:14 -0700 To: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" , From: "Joe Beyer" Subject: Re: KR> Stall warning device and etc. Message-ID: <006701bfc71a$7146b680$0444b23f@earthlink.net> Hi Danny: I did install an electric stall warning switch on the leading edge of the left wing powered by a battery. It was difficult to get the angle of the tab just right. The buzzer went off all the time so I eventually disconnected it. After flying for a while, I realized that a stall warning device was unnecessary because the plane gives you plenty of warning before a stall. Also it's important not to have any holes in the leading edge of the wing where my stall warning switch was. With foam and fiberglass, that's easy to fix. mailto:joejbeyer@earthlink.net Portland, Ore. ----- Original Message ----- From: Livingstone, Danny (DJ) To: Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 1:08 AM Subject: KR> Stall warning device and etc. > Hello netters > > Have any of you installed or planning to install a stall warning device on > your KRs? If so, what are you using? > > For those of you using a hot wire and foam method of construction what are > you using to fill up the open gaps? Can spray can foam ( I think its > polyurathane) be used in larger areas or will this melt the polystyrene > foam? > > Cheers > > Danny Livingstone > South Africa > E-Mail: livd0124@natref.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 11:22:56 +0200 To: "'Schmidt, Curtis'" , "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "GIJSEN Mark (BMB)" Subject: RE: KR> LIGHTS Message-ID: <312542320100D411AE870008C791F6B416AE1A@cplz31.mobile.belgacom.be> RETRACTS: I've asked about the same question about a week ago, the replies should be in the mail archives. My conclusion, based on the info I received, comes down to this: Some people like them, and some don't. *Pros:-looks better(to some). -safety, because they leave a part of the wheel exposed; you will have less damage at a belly landing. *Cons:-create more drag than a good faired fixed gear. -some people forget to put them out before a landing (installing an alarm might be wise). -heavier than fixed gear. - less rigid with hard landings, they might come through the wingtops. - more work/time to build. -needs more maintenance. -complicates brake installation. -you lose the possibility to install tanks in the stubwings.- low height, which results in less clearance between prop and ground. So, I can't see any reason why one would use the original KR retract system, except for the looks, in which case you might want to consider another system that retracts completely in the wing, and that WILL give you an aerodynamic advantage. But you really have to decide for yourself. Also check out the various web pages, KRonline articles, and archives. It won't do no harm. Mark Gijsen, Belgium mailto:mark.gijsen@mobile.belgacom.be -----Original Message----- From: Schmidt, Curtis [mailto:cschmidt@kaydon.com] Sent: donderdag 25 mei 2000 19:56 To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> LIGHTS HEY GUY'S, I'M NEW TO THE HOMEBUILT GAME, AND HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, SO PLEASE BARE WITH ME! FIRST OF ALL WHAT INSTRUMENTS & LIGHTS ARE REQUIRED FOR DAY TIME VFR? DO I NEED ONE OF THOSE HIGH DOLLAR STROBES FOR THE REAR END? WHAT'S THE STORY ON THE OLD RETRACTABLE GEAR FOR THE KR2? MY AIRPLANE HAS THEM ALREADY INSTALLED AND HAS THE HAPI CONVERSION (I BOUGHT IT THIS WAY) THANKS IN ADVANCE CURT --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 07:38:16 -0500 To: "GIJSEN Mark (BMB)" , "'Schmidt, Curtis'" , From: "Ronald R. Eason" Subject: Re: KR> LIGHTS Message-ID: <002c01bfc70f$45720380$1f7239ce@winbook> >RETRACTS: I've asked about the same question about a week ago, the replies >should be in the mail archives. >My conclusion, based on the info I received, comes down to this: >Some people like them, and some don't. >*Pros:-looks better(to some). -safety, because they leave a part of the >wheel exposed; you will have less damage at a belly landing. >*Cons:-create more drag than a good faired fixed gear. -some people forget >to put them out before a landing (installing an alarm might be wise). >-heavier than fixed gear. - less rigid with hard landings, they might come >through the wingtops. - more work/time to build. -needs more maintenance. >-complicates brake installation. -you lose the possibility to install tanks >in the stubwings.- low height, which results in less clearance between prop >and ground. > >So, I can't see any reason why one would use the original KR retract system, >except for the looks, in which case you might want to consider another >system that retracts completely in the wing, and that WILL give you an >aerodynamic advantage. >But you really have to decide for yourself. >Also check out the various web pages, KRonline articles, and archives. It >won't do no harm. > >Mark Gijsen, Belgium >mailto:mark.gijsen@mobile.belgacom.be If you would like to see a wing retract system go to www.freeyellow.com/members6/krron download is slow because photos are detailed. Note Split Flaps also. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 07:42:26 -0500 To: "Schmidt, Curtis" , "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> LIGHTS Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000526074226.007f3100@mail.midwest.net> At 10:56 AM 5/25/00 -0700, Schmidt, Curtis wrote: >FIRST OF ALL WHAT INSTRUMENTS & LIGHTS ARE REQUIRED FOR DAY TIME VFR? >DO I NEED ONE OF THOSE HIGH DOLLAR STROBES FOR THE REAR END? >THANKS IN ADVANCE >CURT ================================================================== Curt, You don't need any lights for day VFR. As for instruments, get a copy of the FAR's from your local FBO or get them off the net. They give you a complete list of the equipment required. I've forgotten which part of the FAR's (Fed. Avia. Reg.) covers this but ask your mechanic, instructor, etc. or grab a hardcopy and look it up. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 11:46:54 +0200 To: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "GIJSEN Mark (BMB)" Subject: Canopy Message-ID: <312542320100D411AE870008C791F6B416AE1B@cplz31.mobile.belgacom.be> -Does anyone know more about actually forming a canopy yourself. I've checked the various sources (web) but didn't find alot. It seems to me it would be very difficult to achieve a good result, but alot of us homebuilders aren't afraid of difficult job, otherwise we wouldn't be building a plane in the first case. So what's the REAL problem here? Mark Gijsen mailto:mark.gijsen@mobile.belgacom.be ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:29:18 -0400 To: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> Canopy Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000526082149.00958e80@pop.erols.com> --=====================_1118740==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:46 AM 5/26/00 +0200, GIJSEN Mark (BMB) wrote: >-Does anyone know more about actually forming a canopy yourself. >I've checked the various sources (web) but didn't find alot. I tried to make my own canopy. My design was very much like a Dragonfly. I was going to drape form it over a male mold. The mold was made from plywood, wire mesh, and plaster. It was covered with flannel and looked great. The best thing that I can say about the entire process is that I did not burn down my shop. It was a total waste of my time. If you have access to a good quality oven, or you are willing to build a proper oven, it may work. In terms of both time and money, I think that buying a canopy is worth the money. It is fairly easy to flat wrap plexiglass and you will get something that looks pretty good, but if you want a Dragonfly style, I suggest you just go ahead and spend the money. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html --=====================_1118740==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 07:00:30 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Carbon Fiber vs Kevlar Message-ID: <001a01bfc709$fdaf2410$58e6a58c@tbe.com> Haris wrote: > People using carbon fiber inside the cockpit should realize that its > splinters are very dangerous in a crash. That's one of those "few places" I was talking about that Kevlar would be advised over carbon fiber. In fact, that's the ONLY place I've thought of using Kevlar, although I'm told the canard guys like to make cowlings out of it because of it's abrasion resistance and noise attenuation properties. Personally, there's no amount of benefits of Kevlar that could possibly offset the frustration of trying to work with it. That one little "tracer" thread on carbon fiber rolls has driven me almost to insanity (well, maybe ALL the way, many would argue). That thread invariably ends up on the overlapping joints where there's a material overlap (like wings). Once you sand that little thread, all the fibers stick up, and refuse to go away. With CF or glass they just sand right off. With Kevlar, you're gonna have to sand that thread entirely away, or have a really ugly joint that looks like a line of fuzz. I eventually buried it under Aeropoxy Lite, but in the future, I'll always ensure that the overlap is ON TOP of that thread, rather than below it... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:55:00 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: APECORAR@steelcase.com Subject: Why Kevlar? ... Message-ID: <<>> <<<+ The only reason Albert's using Kevlar is cause he got a boatload for dirt cheap. There's no other reason to use it on something as non-structural as the deck, and even if it was structural, carbon fiber would be a better choice than Kevlar in most situations, if you don't mind paying 6x as much as KR glass... +>>> Netters, Just wanted to clarify a few things here: Mark Langford is correct - the only reason I am using kevlar is because I found some around here at a very low price. I don't know about you guys, but if I can find a good deal on something for my KR-2S I'll buy it. If I had found a good deal for carbon fiber, do you think I would have passed it up? When I went "shopping" there were pieces of every type of glass in every type of weave you can imagine. But not enough carbon fiber to even build a forward deck for a KR-2S. And yes, I know carbon fiber is better than kevlar for stiffness (kevlar has only half the stiffness of carbon fiber) but it still has far superior qualities than the standard E-glass which is generally used in hoembuilts. I have the 1998 Aircraft Spruce & Specialty catalog in front of me right now. Page 29 - Composite Materials ... there is a little chart at the bottom left corner - Which one do you choose? It ranks E-glass, S-glass, Kevlar, Graphite (Carbon Fiber, I assume), and Ceramic (if you want to build a Space Shuttle) based on Cost, Weight(Density), Stiffness, Heat, Toughness, Impact Resistance. Kevlar ranks as best in Weight, Toughness, and Impact Resistance ... Carbon Fiber ranks just behind Kevlar for weight and as worst for Toughness and Impact Resistance. It is behind Carbon Fiber for stiffness (half the stiffness of Carbon Fiber) and slightly better than Carbon Fiber for Heat (Carbon Fiber is ranked as worst for Heat). The only factor left was cost ... and this was no longer a factor because I had found a deal. So when I looked at the chart it seemed like Kevlar was a good choice. (PS - I know the chart isn't "scientific", but at least it's a good starting point.) Of course there is at least one downside to using Kevlar ... it is difficult to cut and trim. But you live and learn. I am still deciding whether to use it for the rest of my construction for various reasons. That is why I built the forward deck as a test piece. I wanted to see how easy/difficult it is to work with, how it wets out, how strong it is, how much it weighs, etc. As a matter of fact, I started building another forward deck last night because I wasn't pleased with the results of my test piece - the foam is already hotwired and ready to be glassed (or kevlared! ;-) I recall visiting a KR-builder's website that had a link to an article about a Kevlar KR-2 ... it had a picture of the KR with the owner standing beside it and his son sitting on the horizontal stabilizer ... can anyone help me out with this? ... BTW: I receive the digest only. If you reply to this message, could you please cc: me? Thanks. Albert Pecoraro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:48:32 -0400 To: APECORAR@steelcase.com,krnet@mailinglists.org From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> Why Kevlar? ... Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000526164546.009571a0@pop.erols.com> --=====================_1097635==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:55 AM 5/26/00 -0400, APECORAR@steelcase.com wrote: >I recall visiting a KR-builder's website that had a link to an article about a >Kevlar KR-2 ... it had a picture of the KR with the owner standing beside it >and his son sitting on the horizontal stabilizer ... can anyone help me out >with this? ... That was on my web site. Either go to my home page and follow the link to Sport Aviation articles or go to the Miscellaneous picture section in http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_SA.htm Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html --=====================_1097635==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:11:24 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Kr2dream@aol.com Subject: Oshkosh 2000 Message-ID: <7b.492b17a.265fd1fc@aol.com> I'll be at Oshkosh for the entire duration as I will be working in the booth in the north-west corner of building A. I'll have my panel with me and would appreciate seeing anyone who stops by. Bob Lasecki Chicago ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:34:00 -0500 To: "Richard Parker" , From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> fuel gauge Message-ID: <003501bfc717$115324a0$3a89aec7@preinstalledcom> +10V to one plate only. The plates are seperated with nylon hardware. I will cover mine with one layer of glass as Jim Wier recommends. Check his article at www.rst.com/kitplanes if you don't have access to Kitplanes magazine. Ed Blocher Moody, AL mailto: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Parker To: ; Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:56 AM Subject: Re: KR> fuel gauge > Do the capacitive type gauges require electrical power to operate? > > Rich Parker > > >Check out the June 2000 issue of Kitplanes. Jim Wier's "Aero 'Lectrics" > >article is titled: Check out this new and improved capacitive fuel gauge. I > >think this is the way I am going in my wing tanks. Sounds like it would be > >very accurate from F ot E. > >Ed > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 06:50:20 -0700 To: From: "Jon Sinon" Subject: Watsonville Fly-in Message-ID: <008a01bfc719$564908c0$b2ccefd1@jonsinon> ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01BFC6DE.A87A7420 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0087_01BFC6DE.A87A7420" ------=_NextPart_001_0087_01BFC6DE.A87A7420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any KR's going to Watsonville this weekend? ------=_NextPart_001_0087_01BFC6DE.A87A7420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Does anybody have a set of machined fittings they want to get rid of? ------------------------------ Date: 26 May 2000 11:18:00 -0700 To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: "Schmidt, Curtis" Subject: GOT TA BE A BETTER WAY Message-ID: <0004ECE0@kaydon.com> First of all thanks to everybody for all the help I have received via. Emai= l And now I have another question, the plans show all the aileron fittings be= nt out of 6061 sheet stock, " now bull@#$%" I'm a tool maker/programmer by trade and planed to make these parts from ex= trusion But you know how it is, at the end of the day the last thing you want to do= is go back to work! Is mini metrics still in business? If so do they still sell the KR fittings= ? How much? Does anybody have a set of machined fittings they want to get rid of? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:48:44 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> GOT TA BE A BETTER WAY Message-ID: <20000526164844.23555.qmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Schmidt, Curtis" wrote: > First of all thanks to everybody for all the help I > have received via. Email > And now I have another question, the plans show all > the aileron fittings bent out of > 6061 sheet stock, " now bull@#$%" My plans do not show these items made from sheet stock. They are all made from extrusion. How OLD are your plans? I had a set of KR2 plans from the late 70s that showed extrusion also. ===== ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] -----Y2K Bug--- Yes I drive one! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:47:50 -0700 To: Mike Mims From: Ross Youngblood CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> GOT TA BE A BETTER WAY Message-ID: <392EB8C6.65491E08@teleport.com> Curtis, I have seen some KR's built with fittings bent out of sheet stock. It looks prettier if you use the extrusions, not to mention easier. Mike Mims wrote: > --- "Schmidt, Curtis" wrote: > > First of all thanks to everybody for all the help I > > have received via. Email > > And now I have another question, the plans show all > > the aileron fittings bent out of > > 6061 sheet stock, " now bull@#$%" > > My plans do not show these items made from sheet > stock. They are all made from extrusion. How OLD are > your plans? I had a set of KR2 plans from the late 70s > that showed extrusion also. > > ===== > ........| > .......-^- > ....-/_____\- > ...(O\__o__/O) > ...[#]oxxxo[#] > -----Y2K Bug--- > Yes I drive one! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:23:26 -0400 To: cschmidt@kaydon.com From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> GOT TA BE A BETTER WAY Message-ID: <20000526.172327.-262113.0.klw1953@juno.com> Curt, I build the S model and my plans (which are 5 yrs old) tell you to make these fittings out of aluminum angle which is supplied via the aluminum kit. Any more questions let me know. On 26 May 2000 11:18:00 -0700 "Schmidt, Curtis" writes: > First of all thanks to everybody for all the help I have received > via. Email > And now I have another question, the plans show all the aileron > fittings bent out of > 6061 sheet stock, " now bull@#$%" > I'm a tool maker/programmer by trade and planed to make these parts > from extrusion > But you know how it is, at the end of the day the last thing you > want to do is go back to work! > Is mini metrics still in business? If so do they still sell the KR > fittings? How much? > Does anybody have a set of machined fittings they want to get rid > of? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:28:44 -0700 To: cschmidt@kaydon.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> GOT TA BE A BETTER WAY Message-ID: <20000526.173058.-372385.5.virgnvs@juno.com> Minature Metrics long gone. Owner died quite a while back. Virg On 26 May 2000 11:18:00 -0700 "Schmidt, Curtis" writes: > First of all thanks to everybody for all the help I have received > via. Email > And now I have another question, the plans show all the aileron > fittings bent out of > 6061 sheet stock, " now bull@#$%" > I'm a tool maker/programmer by trade and planed to make these parts > from extrusion > But you know how it is, at the end of the day the last thing you > want to do is go back to work! > Is mini metrics still in business? If so do they still sell the KR > fittings? How much? > Does anybody have a set of machined fittings they want to get rid > of? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: 26 May 2000 11:25:00 -0700 To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: "Schmidt, Curtis" Subject: FOR SALE Message-ID: <0004ECE8@kaydon.com> After all the info I got on the retractable gear, I think it might be in my= best interest To go with the fixed gear, does anybody need a set of good retracts? cheap = or trade. Look forward to hearing from ya! CURT ------------------------------ Date: 26 May 2000 11:25:00 -0700 To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: "Schmidt, Curtis" Subject: FOR SALE Message-ID: <0004ECE9@kaydon.com> After all the info I got on the retractable gear, I think it might be in my= best interest To go with the fixed gear, does anybody need a set of good retracts? cheap = or trade. Look forward to hearing from ya! CURT ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:29:31 -0700 To: cschmidt@kaydon.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> FOR SALE Message-ID: <20000526.173058.-372385.6.virgnvs@juno.com> Where are you and how CHEEEEP, Virg On 26 May 2000 11:25:00 -0700 "Schmidt, Curtis" writes: > After all the info I got on the retractable gear, I think it might be > in my best interest > To go with the fixed gear, does anybody need a set of good retracts? > cheap or trade. > Look forward to hearing from ya! > CURT > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:36:46 -0700 To: "KR-Net" From: "Florin L Pintea" Cc: "Corvaircraft" Subject: Thank You! Message-ID: <008201bfc738$f73f9ae0$25194618@cgws1.ab.wave.home.com> ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BFC6FE.4AC858E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to thank everyone who replied to my propeller size question = and I really appreciated your effort. Thanks again! Florin ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BFC6FE.4AC858E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:08:28 -0700 To: flykr2s@execpc.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: virgnvs@juno.com, blo@intekom.co.za, krnet-digest-help@mailinglists.org, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh 2000? Message-ID: <20000526.173058.-372385.2.virgnvs@juno.com> I Dont do Oskosh, check with GPASC booth! Virg On Thu, 25 May 2000 18:03:59 -0500 Mark Jones writes: > What Dinner???? > There was no dinner last year cause Rand did not show up or have a > booth! > Are there KR events actually scheduled this year? PLEASE if you know > of any > and the dates and times please post them so everyone will know. > There were > only three KR's there last year that I saw. > Mark Jones > > virgnvs@juno.com wrote: > > > Meet at the KR Dinner. Virg > > > > On Thu, 25 May 2000 21:07:49 +0200 "Leigh" > writes: > > > Is anybody keeping a list of which KR listers are going to > Oshkosh > > > this > > > year? > > > > > > I thouht it may be a good idea to have a central list of names > so > > > that we > > > could perhaps arrange to meet on one of the days. > > > > > > Just an Idea.... > > > > > > Regards > > > Leigh > > > Cape Town > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > -- > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Waukesha, WI USA (soon to be Wales, WI) > mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:07:03 -0700 To: kr2sflyer@yahoo.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh 2000? Message-ID: <20000526.173058.-372385.1.virgnvs@juno.com> ALL Welcome at Lakeland! Forum Tuesday AM, Dinner Tuesday 7PM. Virg On Thu, 25 May 2000 15:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Mike Mims writes: > > --- Steven Eberhart wrote: > >>>Troy Petteway and I will be tagging along to answer > questions. Troy is also planning on having his KR-2 > there.>>>> > > > > Sure would be nice if some KRs actually started > showing up at Oshkosh. I got the impression from > flyers in the past that KRs were not really welcome there. > > ===== > ........| > .......-^- > ....-/_____\- > ...(O\__o__/O) > ...[#]oxxxo[#] > -----Y2K Bug--- > Yes I drive one! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! 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