From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 9 Jun 2000 16:38:57 -0000 Issue 41 Date: Friday, June 09, 2000 8:39 AM krnet Digest 9 Jun 2000 16:38:57 -0000 Issue 41 Topics (messages 913 through 933): Prop size 913 by: Seifert, Richard E prop selection 914 by: Oscar Zuniga R: KR> O-200 915 by: FLAMINIA PATERNO Re: Subaru 916 by: w.g. kirkland 917 by: AviationMech.aol.com 921 by: Richard Parker Air pressure internally 918 by: Livingstone, Danny (DJ) 919 by: Stefan B. 922 by: Richard Parker 923 by: Donald Reid 926 by: Livingstone, Danny (DJ) 928 by: Richard Parker 929 by: virgnvs.juno.com 930 by: virgnvs.juno.com KR Project for sale 920 by: no notta Re: FUEL TANKS 924 by: B&B Muse test 925 by: Livingstone, Danny (DJ) Va State EAA Fly In 927 by: GARYKR2.cs.com Spin Recovery with KR-2 931 by: Jerry Conners 932 by: AviationMech.aol.com Bearing size help! 933 by: Florin L Pintea Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:06:05 -0700 To: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "Seifert, Richard E" Subject: Prop size Message-Id: Don Right you are! Please excuse, evidently my eyes and brain were not in gear. Thank you for the Formula and explanation. I will give it a try. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 13:13:30 PDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: prop selection Message-ID: <20000607201330.6628.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi, netters- I'm way behind in reading my email, so I'll apologize in advance if this is a repeat, but among the many available methods for determining a starting point for prop size selection is the old nomograph method. I have one or more, in the old EAA manuals. For those who are calculationally challenged (can't operate their solar calculator in the dark), the nomograph only requires a straight-edge and a pencil to draw a line between two scales to get a prop pitch. Again, as with other methods, it's only good for one given condition... but will get you in the ballpark as well as giving you an old-timer's quick check to compare against what the spreadsheet tells you. Generally speaking, you know what your diameter is because you need a minimum prop tip ground clearance and you know how high your thrust line is above ground (you do know that, don't you?), so all you're left trying to determine is pitch. If anybody is interested in the nomograph, email me off-net and I'll scan and email it back. The rest of you go measure your tire diameter and do it Mark Langford's scientific way. Don't forget to divide by the tire pressure times the density altitude. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:52:06 +0200 To: "Leonardo" From: "FLAMINIA PATERNO" Cc: Subject: R: KR> O-200 Message-ID: <00ce01bfd0ca$a0ac97a0$18caabd4@oemcomputer> Ciao Leonardo I have both elctric and mechanic fuel pump: somebody told me it could work without but I have no direct experience. I ha a short flight with my new propeller and the plane flies great even if takeoff is longer than with the previous one ( unfortunatelly I dont have the exact specs of the previous propeller that was given to me to test). I have to solve a problem with my fiberglass spinner and will spend some time figuring out properly how my new fan works and let you know the results. Camillo KR2S Italy ----- Original Message ----- From: Leonardo To: FLAMINIA PATERNO Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: Re: KR> O-200 > > hello Camilo. > I'd like to hear from you a few explanations about your fuel system on the > Kr2 whit the o-200. > 1- are you using a eletric fuel pump, mecanic or gravit? > 2- my front tamk has a gravit flow of 12 galoons hour , you think is good > for not using a pump? > > thanks in advance . > Leo,Brazil,kr2s. > -----Mensagem original----- > De: FLAMINIA PATERNO > Para: Leonardo > Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org > Data: Sábado, 6 de Maio de 2000 18:35 > Assunto: R: KR> O-200 > > > >Ciao Leonardo > >i fly with some friends om mine in Tuscany KR2S with continental O200 > >engine: the weight of the planes (3 up to now) varies between 320 and 340 > >kilos, which would not allow two people to fly with a single drop of fuel. > >We have asked Rand Robinson if the MTOW could have been higher and the > >answer was basically no; 1050 lbs should be the real gross with limited > >g-forces (4,5 g if my memory works well). > >Regarding engine mount we have all bought it directly from Rand Robinson. > >CG is within the limits, but very close to the front. I have a prop > >extension and that does not help; to keep the tail on the ground I had to > >add 2 kg of lead over the tailweel mount. Having such a light tailweel > >caused me some serious problems landing on a wet field, few weeks ago, > while > >stall characteristics were allways very good. > >I hope this few notes can be helpfull, and me too would like to hear about > >other builders experiences > >Camillo KR2S Italy > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Leonardo > >To: Ross Youngblood ; > >Cc: KRNET > >Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 10:31 PM > >Subject: Re: KR> O-200 > > > > > >> hello kr people > >> > >> After searching for a long time for a engine to my kr2s i,ve decided to > >> change the vw the was already installed in my beauty , to a continental > >> o-200 . the engine is in my garage and now comes the most dificult part > . > >> engine mount, cg location , nose heavy , new cowl and lots of things. > well > >> ,what i really need is help from you guys. > >> topics: > >> 1)- will i need to put weigth on the tail ? > >> 2) - what prop to use ,since i had a 54x52 on 75 hp and now 100 hp and no > >> more than 60" of clearence? 2 blades, 3 blades ? > >> 3)- with 75 lbs more will the plane be good only for one person? (NOW IT > >> WEIGTH IS 660 LBS) > >> > >> if someone knows somebody that flyes this configuration please let know . > >> any coments good or bad are wellcome . > >> thank you all for this kr great comunit. > >> LEO ,KR2S,BRAZIL. > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >> > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:59:19 -0400 To: , From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: Re: KR> Subaru Message-Id: <200006080457.AAA07987@dreams.vianet.on.ca> ------=_NextPart_000_01BFD0E4.C6EE7360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd sure like to see the replies. pse reply to the net. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: AviationMech@aol.com > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> Subaru > Date: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 8:33 PM > > are there any Subaru aero engine building sites, > > Thanks, > > Aviationmech > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------=_NextPart_000_01BFD0E4.C6EE7360-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 04:09:11 EDT To: kirkland@vianet.on.ca, krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Subaru Message-ID: <97.66c96ce.2670aea7@aol.com> In a message dated 6/8/00 1:00:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kirkland@vianet.on.ca writes: << I'd sure like to see the replies. pse reply to the net. >> http://www.si-inc.com/subaru/ http://www.si-inc.com/subaru/direct81.htm http://www.interstice.com/~kevinh/soobfaq.html Orma aviationmech@aol.com http://members.aol.com/aviationmech ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 08:30:36 PDT To: kirkland@vianet.on.ca, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> Subaru Message-ID: <20000608153036.19857.qmail@hotmail.com> I got a message yesterday from the kr mailing list that my messages werent getting through. Mind you they probably werent worth reading anyway Rich Parker >From: "w.g. kirkland" >To: , >Subject: Re: KR> Subaru >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:59:19 -0400 > >I'd sure like to see the replies. pse reply to the net. >W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND >kirkland@vianet.on.ca > >---------- > > From: AviationMech@aol.com > > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > > Subject: KR> Subaru > > Date: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 8:33 PM > > > > are there any Subaru aero engine building sites, > > > > Thanks, > > > > Aviationmech > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:58:06 +0200 To: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" Subject: Air pressure internally Message-ID: <042104686D63D311B51A0000C110B8E4449ACC@SASLTD06> Hello KR builders Whilst biulding my new elevator and h/stabilizer I was wondering: If the main spar web has holes drilled in it to prevent it possibily bursting open at altitude, does the elevator, flaps, rudder, etc. need the the same treatment? Danny Livingstone E-Mail: livd0124@natref.com ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:34:26 +0200 To: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" From: "Stefan B." CC: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" Subject: Re: KR> Air pressure internally Message-ID: <393F76B2.E3AC8D55@wanadoo.fr> The construction of the control surfaces spars is not the same, there are no sealed boxes, so no use of holes. Stefan Balatchev, France "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" wrote: > Hello KR builders > > Whilst biulding my new elevator and h/stabilizer I was wondering: If the > main spar web has holes drilled in it to prevent it possibily bursting open > at altitude, does the elevator, flaps, rudder, etc. need the the same > treatment? > > Danny Livingstone > E-Mail: livd0124@natref.com > > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify > the system manager. > > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by > MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > > www.mimesweeper.com > ********************************************************************** > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 08:39:11 PDT To: stefan.balatchev@wanadoo.fr, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> Air pressure internally Message-ID: <20000608153911.1877.qmail@hotmail.com> The spar bursting at altitude is a non issue. If the spars are weak enough to burst at a 5psig differential pressure. I suspect the plane will never make it past taxi tests without falling apart. Rich Parker >From: "Stefan B." >To: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" >CC: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" >Subject: Re: KR> Air pressure internally >Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:34:26 +0200 > >The construction of the control surfaces spars is not the same, there are >no >sealed boxes, so no use of holes. > >Stefan Balatchev, >France > >"Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" wrote: > > > Hello KR builders > > > > Whilst biulding my new elevator and h/stabilizer I was wondering: If the > > main spar web has holes drilled in it to prevent it possibily bursting >open > > at altitude, does the elevator, flaps, rudder, etc. need the the same > > treatment? > > > > Danny Livingstone > > E-Mail: livd0124@natref.com > > > > ********************************************************************** > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > > are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify > > the system manager. > > > > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by > > MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > > > > www.mimesweeper.com > > ********************************************************************** > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 20:33:54 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> Air pressure internally Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000608202212.0095a170@pop.erols.com> --=====================_1087153==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:39 AM 6/8/00 -0700, Richard Parker wrote: >The spar bursting at altitude is a non issue. If the spars are weak enough >to burst at a 5psig differential pressure. I suspect the plane will never >make it past taxi tests without falling apart. That turns out not to be the case. If a non-vented spar compartment is pressurized by an increase in altitude, the pressure differential will load the glue line in peel and distend the shear web like a balloon. Neither one is designed for this loading. Glues are not very strong in peel, they are very strong in shear. When you try to peel apart two surfaces, the area of glue that is affected is very small and all of the force is concentrated in that local region. As the region delaminates, the failure will progress. Shear is when two surfaces are sliding across each other. In shear, the entire glue surface is loaded uniformly and it is very strong. The plywood shear web is strong only when it is straight. It fails when it begins to buckle (ridges build up). If it is pre-loaded with a buckle, the strength as a shear web is reduced. This is the same mechanism that happens when you step on an aluminum soda can. If it is undistorted, it will carry a lot of weight. If it is bent in any way, it will collapse. Drill small vent holes in all spar compartments. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html --=====================_1087153==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:13:08 +0200 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" Subject: RE: KR> Air pressure internally Message-ID: <042104686D63D311B51A0000C110B8E4449ACE@SASLTD06> I relise that the spars are not built the same, what I was refering to is the control itself as it will also become a sealed unit when all the glassing is done. Danny Livingstone E-Mail: livd0124@natref.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Parker [SMTP:richontheroad@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 5:39 PM > To: stefan.balatchev@wanadoo.fr; krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: Re: KR> Air pressure internally > > The spar bursting at altitude is a non issue. If the spars are weak enough > > to burst at a 5psig differential pressure. I suspect the plane will never > make it past taxi tests without falling apart. > > Rich Parker > > >From: "Stefan B." > >To: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" > >CC: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" > >Subject: Re: KR> Air pressure internally > >Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:34:26 +0200 > > > >The construction of the control surfaces spars is not the same, there are > > >no > >sealed boxes, so no use of holes. > > > >Stefan Balatchev, > >France > > > >"Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" wrote: > > > > > Hello KR builders > > > > > > Whilst biulding my new elevator and h/stabilizer I was wondering: If > the > > > main spar web has holes drilled in it to prevent it possibily bursting > > >open > > > at altitude, does the elevator, flaps, rudder, etc. need the the same > > > treatment? > > > > > > Danny Livingstone > > > E-Mail: livd0124@natref.com > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > > > are addressed. 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If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 06:24:15 PDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> Air pressure internally Message-ID: <20000609132416.68045.qmail@hotmail.com> I think one of the key issues here is that the pressure differential is relatively low. If that was the case that "peeling" could happen, which I agree with, then the gentleman who brought up this subject would have a good arguement for putting vent holes in all sealed "boxed" structures such as tail and wing surfaces etc. I would think that for example, a larger "boxed" region such as the areas between the front and rear spars of the horiz stab could suffer from the same "peeling" Starting with the glass from the foam. The micro forms no structural bond. Delamination would progress over the spar caps. Although I could theorize that the excess glue that squeezes out forms small fillets which would be in shear and would have to fail before allowing peel. Rich Parker (and yes my spars are vented) >If a non-vented spar compartment is pressurized by an increase in altitude, >the pressure differential will load the glue line in peel and distend the >shear web like a balloon. Neither one is designed for this loading. > >Glues are not very strong in peel, they are very strong in shear. When you >try to peel apart two surfaces, the area of glue that is affected is very >small and all of the force is concentrated in that local region. As the >region delaminates, the failure will progress. Shear is when two surfaces >are sliding across each other. In shear, the entire glue surface is loaded >uniformly and it is very strong. > >The plywood shear web is strong only when it is straight. It fails when it >begins to buckle (ridges build up). If it is pre-loaded with a buckle, the >strength as a shear web is reduced. This is the same mechanism that >happens when you step on an aluminum soda can. If it is undistorted, it >will carry a lot of weight. If it is bent in any way, it will collapse. > >Drill small vent holes in all spar compartments. > >Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com >Bumpass, Va > >KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm >USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:26:33 -0700 To: donreid@erols.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Air pressure internally Message-ID: <20000609.103451.-301721.0.virgnvs@juno.com> The upper part of the spars. No sense letting water inside! Virg On Thu, 08 Jun 2000 20:33:54 -0400 Donald Reid writes: > At 08:39 AM 6/8/00 -0700, Richard Parker wrote: > >The spar bursting at altitude is a non issue. If the spars are weak > enough > >to burst at a 5psig differential pressure. I suspect the plane will > never > >make it past taxi tests without falling apart. > > That turns out not to be the case. > > If a non-vented spar compartment is pressurized by an increase in > altitude, > the pressure differential will load the glue line in peel and > distend the > shear web like a balloon. Neither one is designed for this loading. > > Glues are not very strong in peel, they are very strong in shear. > When you > try to peel apart two surfaces, the area of glue that is affected is > very > small and all of the force is concentrated in that local region. As > the > region delaminates, the failure will progress. Shear is when two > surfaces > are sliding across each other. In shear, the entire glue surface is > loaded > uniformly and it is very strong. > > The plywood shear web is strong only when it is straight. It fails > when it > begins to buckle (ridges build up). If it is pre-loaded with a > buckle, the > strength as a shear web is reduced. This is the same mechanism that > > happens when you step on an aluminum soda can. If it is > undistorted, it > will carry a lot of weight. If it is bent in any way, it will > collapse. > > Drill small vent holes in all spar compartments. > > Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com > Bumpass, Va > > KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm > USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:16:54 -0700 To: richontheroad@hotmail.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Air pressure internally Message-ID: <20000609.111940.-301721.3.virgnvs@juno.com> Space between the horiz stab spars is filled w/ foam, covered w/ glass not to worry about balooning. Virg On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 06:24:15 PDT "Richard Parker" writes: > I think one of the key issues here is that the pressure differential > is > relatively low. If that was the case that "peeling" could happen, > which I > agree with, then the gentleman who brought up this subject would > have a good > arguement for putting vent holes in all sealed "boxed" structures > such as > tail and wing surfaces etc. I would think that for example, a larger > "boxed" > region such as the areas between the front and rear spars of the > horiz stab > could suffer from the same "peeling" Starting with the glass from > the foam. > The micro forms no structural bond. Delamination would progress over > the > spar caps. Although I could theorize that the excess glue that > squeezes out > forms small fillets which would be in shear and would have to fail > before > allowing peel. > > Rich Parker > (and yes my spars are vented) > > > >If a non-vented spar compartment is pressurized by an increase in > altitude, > >the pressure differential will load the glue line in peel and > distend the > >shear web like a balloon. Neither one is designed for this > loading. > > > >Glues are not very strong in peel, they are very strong in shear. > When you > >try to peel apart two surfaces, the area of glue that is affected > is very > >small and all of the force is concentrated in that local region. > As the > >region delaminates, the failure will progress. Shear is when two > surfaces > >are sliding across each other. In shear, the entire glue surface > is loaded > >uniformly and it is very strong. > > > >The plywood shear web is strong only when it is straight. It fails > when it > >begins to buckle (ridges build up). If it is pre-loaded with a > buckle, the > >strength as a shear web is reduced. This is the same mechanism > that > >happens when you step on an aluminum soda can. If it is > undistorted, it > >will carry a lot of weight. If it is bent in any way, it will > collapse. > > > >Drill small vent holes in all spar compartments. > > > >Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com > >Bumpass, Va > > > >KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm > >USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagh. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 07:53:59 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: no notta Subject: KR Project for sale Message-ID: <20000608145359.19951.qmail@web903.mail.yahoo.com> Hi fellow pilots/builders, I have a KR1 in the later boat stages I'm looking to sell with plans etc... The Spars are finished and one wing is also half done. Includes all hardware for landing gear and the gear and wheels too. All mounting hardware for the wings and most of the flight control hardware engine mount (vw) and more. This project was my father's dream. He got sick with cancer and died before he had a chance to complete it. I would very much like to see someone finish this airplane and fly it. Have lots of foam and a resin mix kit and lots of other things I would let go with it. I have kids, no time and a nice Baby Ace that keep me busy. I am asking 1k for everything, but would seriously consider less if I thought someone would finish it. Thanks, Pilot Flyer ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 21:10:34 -0500 To: "Schmidt, Curtis" From: B&B Muse CC: "krnet@mailinglists.org" Subject: Re: KR> FUEL TANKS Message-ID: <39405219.31E1E723@ev1.net> --------------7B4FE8EEB16913B7031AC111 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Schmidt, Curtis" wrote: > HEY GUYS > I was thinking of making my fuel tanks without the foam, this would be one layer of 3oz one layer of 6oz one layer of 10oz reinforced with carbon ribbon. > I would lay up the glass in sheets between 2 pieces of glass, cut out the pieces and flox them together followed by a strip of glass tape on the joints. > I will probably do this with vinyl ester resin. > > Any input will be appreciated > CURT > Curt, I used foam the shape the tank. I used two layers of 9oz fiberglass, allowed to cure, removed the foam and laid on an additional two layers of 6oz fiberglass. Seven years and never a leak. Bobby Muse --------------7B4FE8EEB16913B7031AC111-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:28:24 +0200 To: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" Subject: test Message-ID: <042104686D63D311B51A0000C110B8E4449ACD@SASLTD06> ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:52:29 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Va State EAA Fly In Message-ID: <15.4e4b27d.2672347d@cs.com> If any of you folks are going to be at the Fly In on Saturday, I am planning to be there with my "2." If you can't find me, and you have a cell phone, call my pager ( 1-800-494-0731) and enter the tail number, I'll come to the plane. The plane is white with orange and black trim. Please forgive how she looks. She was built in ' 77 and needs new paint. That will happen this winter. I am planing to arrive around 10:00 to 10:30. Hope to see you there. Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 08:19:06 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Jerry Conners Subject: Spin Recovery with KR-2 Message-ID: <20000609151906.7483.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Can anyone provide the "best" procedure for spin recovery with the KR-2 (standard design but with Diehl tricycle gear)? Are spins approved? Any dos and donts on spins with the KR-2? Thank you, Jer ===== Jerry L. Conners, PE Civil Engineer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:12:41 EDT To: jconners_98@yahoo.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Spin Recovery with KR-2 Message-ID: <20.70675b9.26727179@aol.com> Spins are not an approved maneuver in the KR 2 Orma aviationmech@aol.com http://members.aol.com/aviationmech ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:38:41 -0600 To: "KR-Net" From: "Florin L Pintea" Subject: Bearing size help! Message-ID: Could anyone with a catalogue (Clark's or Underground) tell me if there are undersize bearings (main and rod) available for the 1964 Vair 110 HP, and to what extent (10, 20, 30 thou)? My local machinist needs to know what is readily available out there before he grinds my crank :( :(. He says the mains have to go to 10 thou under and one of the rod journals has to go to 20 or maybe even 30 thou, he's not sure yet until he gets to it. He can only get a max of 20 thou under bearing locally for the rod journal. HELP!!!! Florin Calgary, Alberta, Canada ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************