From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 19 Jul 2000 20:40:45 -0000 Issue 60 Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 12:41 PM krnet Digest 19 Jul 2000 20:40:45 -0000 Issue 60 Topics (messages 1275 through 1301): Re: please read! (My apologies to the list) 1275 by: EagleGator.aol.com Re: Tip-tanks 1276 by: Carlton Blandford 1277 by: p.bruni.bcs.it 1279 by: Donald Reid 1280 by: p.bruni.bcs.it 1293 by: w.g. kirkland 1298 by: p.bruni.bcs.it Re: KR2S Documentation 1278 by: Leonardo 1285 by: Austin Clark 1286 by: Mike Mims 1288 by: Richard Parker KR2 vices 1281 by: Gary Kruger 1282 by: cartera 1295 by: bud zeitz Cowling 1283 by: Bob Sauer 1284 by: flykr2s.execpc.com O-290 for sale? 1287 by: Mike Mims 1289 by: Richard Parker 1290 by: Mike Mims 1301 by: BABYWOLF.aol.com KR2 plans for sale 1291 by: Boyers plans for sale 1292 by: Boyers Re: spar parts 1294 by: w.g. kirkland Fiberglass tank buuilding 1296 by: Ed Janssen Re: Fiberglass tank building 1297 by: Richard Parker 1299 by: Ed Janssen 1300 by: Mark Langford Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 13:48:55 EDT To: robm440@hotmail.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Fwd: Fw: please read! (My apologies to the list) Message-ID: Before forwarding any email like this, especially to a mailing list, please take a look at the web page www.urbanlegends.com to see if it is a hoax/scam. I hate generalities, but most emails like this are hoaxes. My apologies to the list for this reply, but the urban legends web page is a good resource for those who are not familiar with these types of email. Cheers, Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com St. Charles MO KR-2S N415RJ, "The Phantom Eagle", 40% complete http://members.aol.com/eaglegator In a message dated 7/17/00 1:45:20 AM Central Daylight Time, robm440@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > SORRY EVERYBODY.....JUST HAD TO TAKE THE CHANCE!!! > > > > > I'm an attorney, and I know the law. This thing is for real. Rest > > > > assured > > > > > AOL and Intel will follow through with their promises for fear of > > > facing > > > > a > > > > > multimillion dollar class action suit similar to the one filed by > > > > Pepsico > > > > > against General Electric not too long ago. We're not going to help > >them > > > > out with > > > > > their e-mail beta test without getting a little something for our > >time.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 21:04:31 -0000 To: "Frank Ross" , From: "Carlton Blandford" Subject: Re: KR> Tip-tanks Message-ID: <00c301bfef69$7113f0c0$2adf1ec4@q3g5s6> Frank, The original tanks were carved from solid foam and a mould taken, Peter Eick now sells these for R2200 a set. Each tank holds 25-30 liters of fuel depending on the location of the rear baffle. Only the front section of the tank holds fuel. Fuel is pumped from the tip-tank into the main header tank. It is not recommended to put the aircraft into a spin when the tanks are full as centrifugal forces do prolong recovery. Fuel in the tanks does also aggravate ground loops. Have at least 50 hours or more flying time before carrying fuel in the tanks. There are currently three KR's flying with wing-tip tanks installed, the oldest being ZS-UKU. Regards Carlton Blandford ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Ross To: Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 1:04 PM Subject: KR> Tip-tanks > Looking at Carlton Blandford's site noticed that ZS > UKU (One of the earliest KR 2) has what looks like > wing tip tanks. Anyone have any experience with how > these were built, how much they hold, and how they > effect handling? Also want to thank Langford for > having this and so many other great sites listed on > his site. > > ===== > Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:06:35 +0200 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: p.bruni@bcs.it Subject: Rif: Re: KR> Tip-tanks Message-ID: But haven't the tip tanks any effect to stress on the spar? Ok they have not to overload the plane and it must stay in the maximun take off weight but, the distribution of weihgt is different.. May be a stupid question... or not? ======================================================= Pietro Bruni BCS S.r.l. P.zza Vittorio Veneto 39 22036 Erba (Co) Tel 031/647523 ======================================================= e-mail p.bruni@bcs.it ======================================================= "Carlton Blandford" Per: "Frank Ross" , Oggetto: Re: KR> Tip-tanks 16/07/2000 23.04 Frank, The original tanks were carved from solid foam and a mould taken, Peter Eick now sells these for R2200 a set. Each tank holds 25-30 liters of fuel depending on the location of the rear baffle. Only the front section of the tank holds fuel. Fuel is pumped from the tip-tank into the main header tank. It is not recommended to put the aircraft into a spin when the tanks are full as centrifugal forces do prolong recovery. Fuel in the tanks does also aggravate ground loops. Have at least 50 hours or more flying time before carrying fuel in the tanks. There are currently three KR's flying with wing-tip tanks installed, the oldest being ZS-UKU. Regards Carlton Blandford ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Ross To: Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 1:04 PM Subject: KR> Tip-tanks > Looking at Carlton Blandford's site noticed that ZS > UKU (One of the earliest KR 2) has what looks like > wing tip tanks. Anyone have any experience with how > these were built, how much they hold, and how they > effect handling? Also want to thank Langford for > having this and so many other great sites listed on > his site. > > ===== > Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:23:26 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: Rif: Re: KR> Tip-tanks Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000718091949.0095bc90@pop.erols.com> --=====================_3051513==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:06 AM 7/18/00 +0200, p.bruni@bcs.it wrote: >But haven't the tip tanks any effect to stress on the spar? >... the distribution of weihgt is different.. >May be a stupid question... or not? No it is not, it is correct. The stress levels in the wing will be different. If they are not too large and heavy and the wing is properly designed, then it is not a problem. If you take a stock KR and add large tip tanks without doing the proper design work, then you run the risk of failure. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html --=====================_3051513==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:36:17 +0200 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: p.bruni@bcs.it Subject: Rif: Re: Rif: Re: KR> Tip-tanks Message-ID: But this change is only for KR2 XL or also for KR2S?? ======================================================= Pietro Bruni BCS S.r.l. P.zza Vittorio Veneto 39 22036 Erba (Co) Tel 031/647523 ======================================================= e-mail p.bruni@bcs.it ======================================================= Donald Reid Cc: Oggetto: Re: Rif: Re: KR> Tip-tanks 18/07/2000 15.23 At 10:06 AM 7/18/00 +0200, p.bruni@bcs.it wrote: >But haven't the tip tanks any effect to stress on the spar? >... the distribution of weihgt is different.. >May be a stupid question... or not? No it is not, it is correct. The stress levels in the wing will be different. If they are not too large and heavy and the wing is properly designed, then it is not a problem. If you take a stock KR and add large tip tanks without doing the proper design work, then you run the risk of failure. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:27:29 -0400 To: "Eduardo Iglesias" , "KR-net" From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: Re: KR> Tip-tanks Message-ID: <001401bff139$aa2a6c00$a7905bd1@kirkland> Eduardo; Your reasoning re the inertia of the full tip tanks is correct. The moment of inertia = the mass x the radius squared; but the T-33 had tip tanks and no problems recovering from spins. Most military aircraft with tip tanks can punch them off in an emergency. Full tip tanks would certainly slow down your roll rate. Where does that leave us anyway? W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eduardo Iglesias" To: "KR-net" Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 11:50 PM Subject: RE: KR> Tip-tanks > My 4 cents: > > I have read that the importatnt weigths placed far from the CG, be in the > end of the wing or in the empenaje for example, produce an inertia in > rotation that difficult or prevent to leave an spin. For that reason also, > it is better to place the tanks in the base of the wing. Iīm not engineer > either, but I like to fly and talk about. > > Eduardo > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: larry flesner > Para: JC Marais ; Frank Ross ; > krnet@mailinglists.org > Fecha: Domingo, 16 de Julio de 2000 02:02 p.m. > Asunto: Re: KR> Tip-tanks > > > >>Frank, > >>Those tip tanks were mostly just for looks. > >>The KR is NOT designed for carrying weight on the wing tips. > >>If you need additional tanks, try to locate them in you stub wings. > >>Tanks in the outboard wings will kill you. > > > >>JC > >===================================================================== > >JC, > > > >The statement "tanks in the outboard wings will kill you" might be > >a bit of an overstatement. While tip tanks full of fuel could cause > >some - G loads on hard landings and possibly give you some unwanted > >yaw and roll forces in flight, I'm not sure they will by design , kill > >anyone. If you have any personal knowledge or experiance in that > >area I would like to hear about it. Marty Roberts, for one, has > >outboard wing panel tanks and he has stressed his KR pretty well at > >times. To the contrary, fuel in the outboard wing is self-supporting > >and actually unloads some of the flight loads carried by the wing > >attach fittings. It doesn't improve aircraft performance because you > >are still carrying the weight of the fuel but it is not being supported > >by the attach fittings. Be advised, I am not an engineer. Maybe one of > >our more knowledgable netter's could help us out here. > > > >Larry Flesner > >(all fuel in the outboard wing, no header tank KR builder) > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:04:20 +0200 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: p.bruni@bcs.it Subject: Rif: Re: KR> Tip-tanks Message-ID: Yes but probably mil jet was designed to used it.. I think RR didn't think to WingsTip Tank when design KR2 May be the fuselage designed longer than a plane without WTT =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pietro Bruni e-mail p.bruni@bcs.it =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =20 "w.g. = =20 kirkland" Per: "Eduardo Iglesias" , "KR-net" =20 = =20 net.on.ca> Cc: = =20 Oggetto: Re: KR> Tip-tanks= =20 19/07/2000 = =20 06.27 = =20 = =20 = =20 Eduardo; Your reasoning re the inertia of the full tip tanks is correct= . The moment of inertia =3D the mass x the radius squared; but the T-33 had t= ip tanks and no problems recovering from spins. Most military aircraft wit= h tip tanks can punch them off in an emergency. Full tip tanks would certainl= y slow down your roll rate. Where does that leave us anyway? W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eduardo Iglesias" To: "KR-net" Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 11:50 PM Subject: RE: KR> Tip-tanks > My 4 cents: > > I have read that the importatnt weigths placed far from the CG, be in= the > end of the wing or in the empenaje for example, produce an inertia in= > rotation that difficult or prevent to leave an spin. For that reason also, > it is better to place the tanks in the base of the wing. I=B4m not engineer > either, but I like to fly and talk about. > > Eduardo > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: larry flesner > Para: JC Marais ; Frank Ross ; > krnet@mailinglists.org > Fecha: Domingo, 16 de Julio de 2000 02:02 p.m. > Asunto: Re: KR> Tip-tanks > > > >>Frank, > >>Those tip tanks were mostly just for looks. > >>The KR is NOT designed for carrying weight on the wing tips. > >>If you need additional tanks, try to locate them in you stub wing= s. > >>Tanks in the outboard wings will kill you. > > > >>JC > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >JC, > > > >The statement "tanks in the outboard wings will kill you" might be > >a bit of an overstatement. While tip tanks full of fuel could cause= > >some - G loads on hard landings and possibly give you some unwanted > >yaw and roll forces in flight, I'm not sure they will by design , ki= ll > >anyone. If you have any personal knowledge or experiance in that > >area I would like to hear about it. Marty Roberts, for one, has > >outboard wing panel tanks and he has stressed his KR pretty well at > >times. To the contrary, fuel in the outboard wing is self-supportin= g > >and actually unloads some of the flight loads carried by the wing > >attach fittings. It doesn't improve aircraft performance because yo= u > >are still carrying the weight of the fuel but it is not being suppor= ted > >by the attach fittings. Be advised, I am not an engineer. Maybe on= e of > >our more knowledgable netter's could help us out here. > > > >Larry Flesner > >(all fuel in the outboard wing, no header tank KR builder) > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------= - > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org = ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:15:38 -0300 To: , "Donald Reid" From: "Leonardo" Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Documentation Message-ID: <001c01bff0ba$45112cc0$2d0dfea9@estacao1> in my case i've used a heat gun for model planes and it worked very well ,but dont get it too close or you can damage the canopy. LEO.BRAZIL.KR2S. -----Mensagem original----- De: Donald Reid Para: krnet@mailinglists.org Data: Segunda-feira, 17 de Julho de 2000 09:49 Assunto: Re: KR> KR2S Documentation > >>btw anyone have a good way to remove the protective covering on a D-fly >>canmopy? I picked away for about 10 minutes and got about 2 square inches off. > > >Mine rolled off in fairly large sheets. Try and rub it off, not pull it off. > >Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com >Bumpass, Va > >KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm >USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:51:40 -0500 To: "Richard Parker" , From: "Austin Clark" Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Documentation Message-ID: <00ac01bff10a$bdd3bb00$cf99a4d0@contrade> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Parker >btw anyone have a good way to remove the protective covering on a D-fly >canmopy? I picked away for about 10 minutes and got about 2 square inches >off. > Try rolling the coating on to itself or on to a small dowel. This worked best for me. Good luck. Austin Clark MS KR2S www.datasync.com/~itac/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:12:07 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Documentation Message-ID: <20000718231207.9880.qmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> --- Austin Clark wrote: >btw anyone have a good way to remove the protective > covering on a D-fly > >canmopy? I picked away for about 10 minutes and got > about 2 square inches > >off. I thought it was water soluble ?!?! ===== ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] -----Y2K Bug--- Yes I drive one! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:25:11 GMT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Documentation Message-ID: Nobody ever told me. It sure looks like wax though. Its not brown paper like standard acrylic sheet or the Rand canopy comes in. Since I was just removing the area for the frame I was able to use a razor and not worry about scratches since I lightly sanded it anyway. However I learned that if you can get a larger section to grab on to and roll it onto itself you could probably get the whole thing done in half a day. What a waste of time! (I'm sure glad I dont have to get my bikini line waxed!) Anyway its glassed onto the forward deck and the side rails and should result in a good fit once removed. Rich P >From: Mike Mims >To: krnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Documentation >Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:12:07 -0700 (PDT) > > >--- Austin Clark wrote: > >btw anyone have a good way to remove the protective > > covering on a D-fly > > >canmopy? I picked away for about 10 minutes and got > > about 2 square inches > > >off. > >I thought it was water soluble ?!?! > >===== >........| >.......-^- >....-/_____\- >...(O\__o__/O) >...[#]oxxxo[#] >-----Y2K Bug--- >Yes I drive one! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:01:20 +0200 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Gary Kruger Subject: KR2 vices Message-ID: <218C164BF936D311AB5F0020AFF36DE409C48D@SCHEDULING> Hi netters, What handling vices does the KR2 have ? i.e - what handling characteristics must I be especially aware of in a KR2 with a 2L VW motor, operating out of a strip at 3500 ft asl ? G.K ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 12:21:13 -0600 To: Gary Kruger From: cartera CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> KR2 vices Message-ID: <3974A019.E80339AE@cuug.ab.ca> Gary Kruger wrote: > > Hi netters, > > What handling vices does the KR2 have ? i.e - what handling characteristics > must I be especially aware of in a KR2 with a 2L VW motor, operating out of > a strip at 3500 ft asl ? > > G.K > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org Hello Gary, None, don't taxi too fast, remember it's short coupled. Relax, try it around the patch. Familiarization is the main criterion. If it is a tail dragger, keep the stick in your gut. Happy Flying to all. -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:53:21 -0600 To: Gary Kruger From: bud zeitz CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> KR2 vices Message-ID: <39754251.BE8B989D@home.com> Hi Gary kr2 as plans built is very sensitive in pitch, stately in roll, and without bad habits. The best description I can give is that it is a two-finger on the stick airplane....you know you have trouble if your whole fist is clamped on & its past time to relax. C-GJEY has treated me well since '79, happy flying & blue skies budz@home.com Gary Kruger wrote: > Hi netters, > > What handling vices does the KR2 have ? i.e - what handling characteristics > must I be especially aware of in a KR2 with a 2L VW motor, operating out of > a strip at 3500 ft asl ? > > G.K > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 12:03:55 -0700 To: From: "Bob Sauer" Subject: Cowling Message-ID: <002b01bff0ea$ef48c380$2570a1d0@home> ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BFF0B0.3FA43660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I plan to use a corvair engine, what cowling is being used on the KR2S = standard plans cut firewall? Thank you From: resauer@softcom.net ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BFF0B0.3FA43660-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:58:03 -0500 To: "Bob Sauer" From: flykr2s@execpc.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Cowling Message-Id: <200007181958.OAA32366@mailgw00.execpc.com> Bob, As far as I know, you will have to fabricate your own cowling. I plan on doing mine after the engine is installed. I will use foam blocks around the engine to make a cowling mold similar to the way I made my fuel tank. The glass will be laid up on the mold then split into a top and bottom half. It will be removed and all foam removed to finish the cowl. There may be cowlings which can be retrofitted but I have not heard of one yet. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage > I plan to use a corvair engine, what cowling is being used on the KR2S standard plans cut firewall? Thank you > > From: resauer@softcom.net > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:19:34 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: O-290 for sale? Message-ID: <20000718231934.11043.qmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> Was curious as to what you guys think a low time (less than 500 hours) O-290G converted for aircraft (125hp) use is worth? Engine would include the long block, mini alternator, and two good bendix mags with brand new Champion harnesses. Also a brand new Sterba prop for same engine (65 X 72). Anyway I have been out of touch with aviation for over a year so I was just wondering what something like this is worth. And yes I might just be selling my engine. BTW Selling the engine has nothing to do with my thoughts on reliability in a KR, its a personal thing. ===== ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] -----Y2K Bug--- Yes I drive one! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:29:51 GMT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> O-290 for sale? Message-ID: Thats not enough info. Whats the complete story Mike? Do these bigger dogs threatening to run 140hp corvairs got you thinking? RP >From: Mike Mims >To: krnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: KR> O-290 for sale? >Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:19:34 -0700 (PDT) > >Was curious as to what you guys think a low time (less >than 500 hours) O-290G converted for aircraft (125hp) >use is worth? Engine would include the long block, >mini alternator, and two good bendix mags with brand >new Champion harnesses. Also a brand new Sterba prop >for same engine (65 X 72). Anyway I have been out of >touch with aviation for over a year so I was just >wondering what something like this is worth. And yes I >might just be selling my engine. > >BTW Selling the engine has nothing to do with my >thoughts on reliability in a KR, its a personal thing. > > >===== >........| >.......-^- >....-/_____\- >...(O\__o__/O) >...[#]oxxxo[#] >-----Y2K Bug--- >Yes I drive one! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:48:40 -0700 From: Mike Mims CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> O-290 for sale? Message-ID: <397508F8.65BD7798@home.com> Richard Parker wrote: > > Thats not enough info. Whats the complete story Mike? > Do these bigger dogs threatening to run 140hp corvairs got you thinking? > > RP No it has nothing to do with that at all. Besides you know there is no such thing as a 140 ph Corvair! :o) -- __________________ Micheal Mims Trying to get this thing done! http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://explanes.com/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 16:39:44 EDT To: richontheroad@hotmail.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: BABYWOLF@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> O-290 for sale? Message-ID: There is an AD on the prop flange and oil pump that you must comply with. ALso the vavles don't like 100LL The parts are expensive and Mechanics have a hard time findiing specs. They are easy to hand prop and will flly for fifty miles with a swallowed valve on one piston and a broken connecting rod on another. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:15:31 -0500 To: From: "Boyers" Subject: KR2 plans for sale Message-ID: <004b01bff137$fc1fc8e0$9ea24ad1@ou812> ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BFF10E.116C2740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BFF10E.116C2740-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:23:21 -0500 To: From: "Boyers" Subject: plans for sale Message-ID: <005701bff139$1411bd40$9ea24ad1@ou812> ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01BFF10F.29567A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable KR netters, KR2 plans for sale $100. complete. Also mohawk[kitfox = replica] plans for sale,paid $240. sell $150. I'll pay shipping in US = .Thanks Ken ou812@brick.net=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01BFF10F.29567A80-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:35:04 -0400 To: "BILLJILL tabbert" , From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: Re: KR> spar parts Message-ID: <002101bff13a$b6c7ae40$a7905bd1@kirkland> Bill; Your assumption is correct. The aluminium is nowhere near strong enough. Trash them or if they are the right size and shape use them as templates. The previous owner was headed for a sure fire catastrophic failure if they ever got by an inspection. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "BILLJILL tabbert" To: Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 9:39 AM Subject: KR> spar parts > I recently purchased a partially finished KR-2S. The entire fuselage is > basically finished and one wing completed. The craftsmanship appears to be > very good however I have been double checking everything regardless. One of > the things that I have found and have a question on is the wing spar > attachments. I see the spec. in the book calls for steel. The attachments on > the plane are made out of aluminum, can anybody tell me if this is > acceptable or not? > > With the spec. being such a high strength steel I do not see how the > aluminum could be strong enough...? > > > > Bill > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 06:53:14 -0500 To: From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: Fiberglass tank buuilding Message-ID: <003201bff177$ebe4b5e0$020110ac@dad> Netters, This site has a nice demo and pictures of building a gas tank from foam, fiberglass and Vinyl ester resin. http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/1071/tank.htm Ed Janssen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:03:31 GMT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> Fiberglass tank building Message-ID: Is the vinyl ester resin the same as the "bondo" brand of resin. I've got some and was wondering if I can use it for my tank. Rich Parker >From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) >To: >Subject: KR> Fiberglass tank buuilding >Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 06:53:14 -0500 > >Netters, > >This site has a nice demo and pictures of building a gas tank from foam, >fiberglass and Vinyl ester resin. > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/1071/tank.htm > >Ed Janssen > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 07:33:50 -0500 To: "Richard Parker" , From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: Re: KR> Fiberglass tank building Message-ID: <000701bff17d$981ff360$020110ac@dad> Rich, I haven't messed with Bondo brands lately, but I don't think so. Vinylester, I believe is a trade name. Most people use an epoxy resin, rather than the hardware store "fix your car" variety. Vinylester is supposed to be impervious to gas. There are lots of guys out there who have used the stuff. Some swear at it and some swear by it. I'm sure there will be others that chime in to tell you their experiences. Ed Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Parker To: Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 7:03 AM Subject: Re: KR> Fiberglass tank building > Is the vinyl ester resin the same as the "bondo" brand of resin. I've got > some and was wondering if I can use it for my tank. > > Rich Parker > > >From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) > >To: > >Subject: KR> Fiberglass tank buuilding > >Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 06:53:14 -0500 > > > >Netters, > > > >This site has a nice demo and pictures of building a gas tank from foam, > >fiberglass and Vinyl ester resin. > > > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/1071/tank.htm > > > >Ed Janssen > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:52:09 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Fiberglass tank building Message-ID: <001001bff190$eb516d30$58e6a58c@tbe.com> Rich Parker wrote: > Is the vinyl ester resin the same as the "bondo" brand of resin. I've got > some and was wondering if I can use it for my tank. The Bondo stuff is polyester, a different animal from vinylester. Vinylester is reputed to be fuelproof. I couldn't say for polyester, but my guess would be not as fuel proof as vinylester. A gallon of vinylester isn't real expensive, and should be just enough to build a header tank. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************