From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 21 Jul 2000 21:29:22 -0000 Issue 61 Date: Friday, July 21, 2000 1:29 PM krnet Digest 21 Jul 2000 21:29:22 -0000 Issue 61 Topics (messages 1302 through 1327): Re: O-290 for sale? 1302 by: Mike Mims 1304 by: larry flesner 1308 by: Mike Mims 1311 by: larry flesner 1316 by: AviationMech.aol.com Re: KR2 1303 by: jscott.pilot.juno.com 1306 by: Jerry Mahurin Re: KR2 RC model 1305 by: Richard Parker KR Builders 1307 by: Robert Stone WAF's 1309 by: Randy Smyre 1315 by: Donald Reid LANDING GEAR 1310 by: Schmidt, Curtis sanding made easy 1312 by: Richard Parker 1318 by: Jeff Newman 1319 by: Mark Langford 1327 by: GARYKR2.cs.com Re: Tip-tanks 1313 by: GARYKR2.cs.com Re: Fiberglass tank building 1314 by: GARYKR2.cs.com REVFLOW CARBS 1317 by: DONAN5.aol.com 1322 by: AviationMech.aol.com Re:Posa 1320 by: Tim Bellville Contact! article (long) 1321 by: Oscar Zuniga Re: Contact! article (short) 1323 by: Horn2004.aol.com 1324 by: Edwin Blocher 1325 by: Steven Eberhart Barkley fun 1326 by: Edwin Blocher Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:16:28 -0700 From: Mike Mims CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> O-290 for sale? Message-ID: <39766F0C.FC5A82F7@home.com> BABYWOLF@aol.com wrote: > > There is an AD on the prop flange and oil pump that you must comply with.>>> The oil pump was replaced on this one with a new one (old style) and since there is no prop flange I have a hard time with an AD you "must" comply with. Anyway we all know you don't have to comply with ADs when the motor is used in an experimental. The oil pump AD was to replace it at next overhaul or something like that. Instead of buying the one for $500 that would make the engine legal (which it never will be anyway) I bought an old surplus stock unit. This was on the advise of a local engine rebuild. He said the cast impellers would easily go 1000 hours. Back to the prop flange, it has the beef up plates already installed if that is what your talking about. This engine has already been converted for aircraft use and has flown for several hundred hours. I get a kick out of remarks about Lycs and Continentals when someone brings up their use instead of a VW or a Corvair. Heck one could say there is an AD out on VWs, you should replace them with a Continental! :o) Ha Ha! -- __________________ Micheal Mims Trying to get this thing done! http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://explanes.com/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:54:13 -0500 To: Mike Mims From: larry flesner Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> O-290 for sale? Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000720055413.0080c100@mail.midwest.net> >> There is an AD on the prop flange and oil pump that you must comply with.>>> > >The oil pump was replaced on this one with a new one (old style) and >since there is no prop flange I have a hard time with an AD you "must" >comply with. Anyway we all know you don't have to comply with ADs when >the motor is used in an experimental. The oil pump AD was to replace it >at next overhaul or something like that. ========================================================================= Netters, The prop flange A.D. , I think, only applies to engines that have a crank that takes a constant speed prop. The oil pump A.D. applies to many of the Lycombing series. It depends on the type of metal in the gears of your current pump as to when the unit needs to be replaced. One type of iron or steel gear (sintered) needed replacing in 25 hours of the A.D. while one steel and one aluminum gear had to be replaced at the recommended TBO time on the engine (even if the engine was not overhauled). My Tripacer engine is setting on a stand with parts in buckets at this moment getting her new pump. The good news for those of you that have read this post this far is that Niagra Air Parts is selling the pump body, gears and shafts for $325.00 and if it is for a non-certified engine, $225.00. No need to install old or questionable pumps at that price. I've heard rumors recently that they updated the A.D. but I didn't bother checking it out as I was already replacing the pump. Bottom line, if you are flying a Lyc, get a copy of the A.D's and know what you are dealing with. That goes for any engine, know it's weak points. You wouldn't fly a no-radio aircraft into a tower controled field on the basis of a rumor the tower had closed, would you? Larry (soon to be retired, now maybe I'll get my KR finished) Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:29:41 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> O-290 for sale? Message-ID: <20000720152942.18264.qmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> --- larry flesner wrote: It depends on the type of metal in the gears of your current pump as to when the unit needs to be replaced. One type of iron or steel gear (sintered) needed replacing in 25 hours of the A.D.>>> Yep thats the one. The new pump I installed had one aluminum gear and one steel. Like I said it was a brand new surplus pump, it will be fine. As for the prop flange AD, the G model never had a true prop flange. Remember this is not a certified engine. ===== ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] -----Y2K Bug--- Yes I drive one! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 18:05:21 -0500 To: Mike Mims ,krnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> O-290 for sale? Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000720180521.007c8a00@mail.midwest.net> Mike and netters, The oil pump I removed from the Tripe had 2000 hours on it. One steel and one aluminum gear. It was still working fine. The aluminum gear had what appeared to be abrasions on the teeth(tiny hairline scratches) but=20 did not appear to my untrained eye to be anywhere near failure. I suspect that clean oil would be the best way to keep the softer metal from wearing. I really don't see why we are having to change them out before actual engine overhaul. Larry Flesner =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >--- larry flesner wrote: >It depends on the type of metal in the gears of your >current pump as to when the unit needs to be replaced. > One type of iron or steel gear (sintered) needed >replacing in 25 hours of the A.D.>>> > >Yep thats the one. The new pump I installed had one >aluminum gear and one steel. Like I said it was a >brand new surplus pump, it will be fine. As for the >prop flange AD, the G model never had a true prop >flange. Remember this is not a certified engine. > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >........| >.......-^- >....-/_____\- >...(O\__o__/O) >...[#]oxxxo[#]=20 >-----Y2K Bug--- >Yes I drive one! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get Yahoo! Mail =96 Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:39:41 EDT To: flesner@midwest.net, kr2sflyer@yahoo.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> O-290 for sale? Message-ID: <71.5191912.26a903dd@aol.com> In a message dated 7/20/00 6:57:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, flesner@midwest.net writes: > I really don't see why we are > having to change them out before actual engine overhaul. An AD is the same as a recall by Fords or other manufactures. What happens is that a high number of failures has occured with this type of pump in other applications. As experimenters operating non certified engines we are not forced to comply with AD's. Please don't forget that some pumps will fail others will not. It's just in the numbers. If failure should occure in this style of pump, the product of that failure will enter the entire engine and gear case. Let safety be your guide... Orma A&P with Inspection Authorization aviationmech@aol.com http://members.aol.com/aviationmech ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:09:54 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Subject: Fw: KR2 Message-ID: <20000719.212120.-189859.0.jscott.pilot@juno.com> KRNet members. Many of you may remember Jesse Klebsch who was killed in his KR last October. His brother wants to build a RC model of Jesse's plane. If anyone can help him, please reply directly back to him at mailto:bobklebsch@hotmail.com ...not to the list or me. I did forward the NTSB final report to him. Thank you, Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Bob Klebsch" To: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 19:21:48 PDT Subject: KR2 Message-ID: <20000719022149.14450.qmail@hotmail.com> You are probably wondering who I am, you met my brother some time ago. He had a yellow KR2 with a tail wheel and was subscribed to KR-Net. He died on Oct. 22nd. I appreciate you taking interest in finding any info. that you could on his crash. I accessed my brothers e-mail account and have read what you and the others have said about him. Flying was his dream ever since I could ever remember and thier couldn't possibly be a better brother or friend than he was. But I was wondering if you could help me out a little. I don't have a pilots lisence but I am learning how to fly remote controlled planes now. I was wondering if you could ask the people on KR-Net if they knew of anyone who has built an RC plane that looks like a KR2 taildragger. I have looked everywhere on the internet and I haven't been able to find one. And if not then I was wondering if I could get a copy of someones blueprints of thier KR2 so I could try to build one to scale from scratch. My brother was everything to me, and I loved to fly with him and watch him fly, so this information would be extremely appreciated. I feel that if I could find a plane like his it would help me keep his dream of flying alive, and my memories of him closer. Thanks again for all that you have done and any information that you can find will be grately appreciated. Thanks Again, Bob ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:52:50 GMT To: jscott.pilot@juno.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> Fw: KR2 Message-ID: KRnetters..... I sent a message to Bob telling him that Tower Hobbies used to market an RC kit named 'Rainbow Runner' which was a scale model of a KR2. I cannot remember the KR2 owners name, but he was from Texas. Jerry Mahurin myrddin@usa.net >From: jscott.pilot@juno.com >To: krnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: KR> Fw: KR2 >Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:09:54 -0600 > >KRNet members. > >Many of you may remember Jesse Klebsch who was killed in his KR last >October. His brother wants to build a RC model of Jesse's plane. If >anyone can help him, please reply directly back to him at >mailto:bobklebsch@hotmail.com ...not to the list or me. > >I did forward the NTSB final report to him. > >Thank you, > >Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM > >--------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: "Bob Klebsch" >To: jscott.pilot@juno.com >Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 19:21:48 PDT >Subject: KR2 >Message-ID: <20000719022149.14450.qmail@hotmail.com> > >You are probably wondering who I am, you met my brother some time ago. He > >had a yellow KR2 with a tail wheel and was subscribed to KR-Net. He died >on >Oct. 22nd. I appreciate you taking interest in finding any info. that you > >could on his crash. I accessed my brothers e-mail account and have read >what >you and the others have said about him. Flying was his dream ever since I > >could ever remember and thier couldn't possibly be a better brother or >friend than he was. But I was wondering if you could help me out a >little. I >don't have a pilots lisence but I am learning how to fly remote >controlled >planes now. I was wondering if you could ask the people on KR-Net if they > >knew of anyone who has built an RC plane that looks like a KR2 >taildragger. I >have looked everywhere on the internet and I haven't been able to find >one. >And if not then I was wondering if I could get a copy of someones >blueprints >of thier KR2 so I could try to build one to scale from scratch. My >brother >was everything to me, and I loved to fly with him and watch him fly, so >this >information would be extremely appreciated. I feel that if I could find a > >plane like his it would help me keep his dream of flying alive, and my >memories of him closer. >Thanks again for all that you have done and any information that you can >find will be grately appreciated. >Thanks Again, > Bob >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:18:12 GMT To: krnet@mailinglists.org, bobklebsch@hotmail.com From: "Richard Parker" Cc: tomkr2s@t-three.com Subject: re: KR2 RC model Message-ID: Tom Andersons RC kr2 model can be seen at http://www.t-three.com/200MPH/quarter.htm I've seen it in real life and it sure was pretty. his e-mail address is at the bottom but I know he moved from FL to NC so I dont know if its still good. Rich Parker >From: jscott.pilot@juno.com >To: krnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: KR> Fw: KR2 >Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:09:54 -0600 > >KRNet members. > >Many of you may remember Jesse Klebsch who was killed in his KR last >October. His brother wants to build a RC model of Jesse's plane. If >anyone can help him, please reply directly back to him at >mailto:bobklebsch@hotmail.com ...not to the list or me. > >I did forward the NTSB final report to him. > >Thank you, > >Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM > >--------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: "Bob Klebsch" >To: jscott.pilot@juno.com >Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 19:21:48 PDT >Subject: KR2 >Message-ID: <20000719022149.14450.qmail@hotmail.com> > >You are probably wondering who I am, you met my brother some time ago. He > >had a yellow KR2 with a tail wheel and was subscribed to KR-Net. He died >on >Oct. 22nd. I appreciate you taking interest in finding any info. that you > >could on his crash. I accessed my brothers e-mail account and have read >what >you and the others have said about him. Flying was his dream ever since I > >could ever remember and thier couldn't possibly be a better brother or >friend than he was. But I was wondering if you could help me out a >little. I >don't have a pilots lisence but I am learning how to fly remote >controlled >planes now. I was wondering if you could ask the people on KR-Net if they > >knew of anyone who has built an RC plane that looks like a KR2 >taildragger. I >have looked everywhere on the internet and I haven't been able to find >one. >And if not then I was wondering if I could get a copy of someones >blueprints >of thier KR2 so I could try to build one to scale from scratch. My >brother >was everything to me, and I loved to fly with him and watch him fly, so >this >information would be extremely appreciated. I feel that if I could find a > >plane like his it would help me keep his dream of flying alive, and my >memories of him closer. >Thanks again for all that you have done and any information that you can >find will be grately appreciated. >Thanks Again, > Bob >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:53:51 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: KR Builders Message-ID: <001201bff2ae$2492e060$f5e818d0@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFF284.3A6585C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters: Do any of you live close to me. If so I would like to come = see what you are building. Bob Stone 42l4 Lakecliffe Drive Harker Heights, Texas (Location is just east of Killeen/Fort Hood) ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFF284.3A6585C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:49:26 -0400 To: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: Randy Smyre Subject: WAF's Message-ID: <01BFF240.B6C8B9A0.crsroads@uplink.net> Hello List, I am having a machinist mill my WAF's for the main spar. The drawing in my manual has a discrepancy in it. The spacing between the 3/16th holes is 1.5 inches except for the last one which the picture shows is 1.625" Which is right? Should the spacing on the last set of holes be 1.5" or 1.625"? If it is 1.5" then it leaves a little extra material at the inboard end. Randy Smyre crsroads@uplink.net Milton, PA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:22:48 -0400 To: From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> WAF's Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000720211113.00951f00@pop.erols.com> --=====================_1571724==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:49 AM 7/20/00 -0400, Randy Smyre wrote: >Hello List, > >I am having a machinist mill my WAF's for the main spar. The drawing in my >manual has a discrepancy in it. The spacing between the 3/16th holes is 1.5 >inches except for the last one which the picture shows is 1.625" Which is >right? Should the spacing on the last set of holes be 1.5" or 1.625"? If it >is 1.5" then it leaves a little extra material at the inboard end. From a table in ANC-18, Design of Wood Aircraft Structures, the minimum allowable spacing between the center of a 3/16" bolt to the edge of another bolt or the end of the spar, through a 2 3/8" piece of spruce, is approximately 0.75 inches. This means that the minimum distance from the center of the first bolt to the end of the spar must be at least 0.75 inches and the bolt center-to-center spacing must be a least 27/32 (0.84375) inches. This is 0.75" + 3/32". Keep all of them 1.5 inches apart and you are fine. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html --=====================_1571724==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jul 2000 14:04:00 -0700 To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: "Schmidt, Curtis" Subject: LANDING GEAR Message-ID: <00004977@kaydon.com> Hey builders! A few days ago I saw someone ask about a set of tricycle gear that was offe= red by Mike Lamb years ago and was wanting to know how they worked. Well I watched the list for any responses and didn't see any! The reason I'm interested is I'm building a KR2 and I bought an old piece o= f @#$$ for parts and this airplane had those gear, the person who built the= m didn't do a very good job but the idea looked pretty sound to me, I put the= gear on the scale with tires and brakes and came up with 43 pounds! One of my questions is, is this to heavy for a set of tricycle gear? This gear also has a steerable nose gear and uses the drum brakes, dose any= body know how this setup worked out? I have a partial set of drawings that was put out in one of the old news le= tters (before the net) and am thinking of building a set but if they didn't= work well I don't want to waste the time! I have access to a very large machine shop and was a tool maker before I st= arted CNC programming so tools and material are not a problem And I should be able to build them for just about nothing! (That's the ince= ntive)! Any thoughts? Thanks Curt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 00:25:24 GMT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: sanding made easy Message-ID: I just got my new favorite toy for shaping foam and sanding fiberglass. a 10,000 rpm pneumatic random orbit sander. It smooths up the glass real quick and i can remove those stray strands of BID that seem to come loose when I'm glassing in seconds. I'm been using it to shape normally hard to sand polystyrene foam and it comes out real nice real quick. (Its great for taking the rust off the car as well) Rich Parker ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:13:40 -0400 To: "Richard Parker" , From: "Jeff Newman" Subject: Re: KR> sanding made easy Message-ID: <000f01bff2c1$acb95420$ac221d3f@computer> Just bought a completed KR2...it flew 450 hrs, and now has no engine and needs work. My question is: How hard would it be to turn inot a 2S? Is it worth the effort? Jeff Newman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Parker" To: Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 8:25 PM Subject: KR> sanding made easy > I just got my new favorite toy for shaping foam and sanding fiberglass. a > 10,000 rpm pneumatic random orbit sander. It smooths up the glass real quick > and i can remove those stray strands of BID that seem to come loose when I'm > glassing in seconds. > I'm been using it to shape normally hard to sand polystyrene foam and it > comes out real nice real quick. > > (Its great for taking the rust off the car as well) > > Rich Parker > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 22:25:47 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> sanding made easy Message-ID: <003101bff2c3$5d081ae0$a5f780ce@300emachine> Jeff Newman wrote: > Just bought a completed KR2...it flew 450 hrs, and now has no engine and > needs work. My question is: How hard would it be to turn inot a 2S? Is it > worth the effort? Well, if your wings don't need to be rebuilt, I'd be very tempted to keep them as is. And although fuselages HAVE been stretched (after crash damage), I wouldn't do it unless I just had to. The one thing you can do (from a stability standpoint) to make it behave more like a 2S is make the horizontal stabilizer a little longer, which is similar to the effect you'd get from a longer fuselage. But other than stability, the big differences in 2 and 2S are 2" of increased leg room, and a few inches of increased head room. Cabin width is the same with both versions so there's not much point of splitting it down the middle and adding a few inches (just kiddin' there). A canopy swap to a Dragonfly or KR2S would probably do wonders for claustrophopia. If it were me, I'd fix whatever needs fixing, do a good weight and balance and get the CG in the right place, and maybe add a little extra horizontal stab if you're worried about pitch sensitivity. Even stock KR2's have been known to be "schweet", according to Troy... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 17:28:42 EDT To: kepe@gte.net, richontheroad@hotmail.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Re: KR> sanding made easy Message-ID: In a message dated 7/20/00 11:12:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kepe@gte.net writes: << Just bought a completed KR2...it flew 450 hrs, and now has no engine and needs work. My question is: How hard would it be to turn into a 2S? Is it worth the effort? >> NO!!!!!! You could build a new plane faster. There is nothing wrong with a regular "2." Gary Hinkle(A/P) Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 20:57:00 EDT To: p.bruni@bcs.it, krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Re: Rif: Re: KR> Tip-tanks Message-ID: <2f.845b67d.26a8f9dc@cs.com> Don Reid is correct. Larger aircraft, big singles and twins, have what is known as "max zero fuel weight." How much you can load with no fuel. This is because the fuel is in the wings. The wings lift or carry the fuel. But if you over load the fuselage, the bending forces on the spar may be too great. This is also why there is a "max landing weight" on a lot of aircraft. Working on airplanes is not like working on a farm tractor. Every time you change something on an airplane, you have to do some homework. Does anybody have the stresses on the spar in negative modes with tip tanks? I didn't think so. Airplanes are designed to use the least amount of material to get the strength required to stay together as designed. Big changes such as tip tanks would require a different spar. That is the non B.S. part. Gary Hinkle(A/P & Corp. Pilot) Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:06:30 EDT To: richontheroad@hotmail.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Re: KR> Fiberglass tank building Message-ID: In a message dated 7/19/00 8:04:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, richontheroad@hotmail.com writes: << Is the vinyl ester resin the same as the "bondo" brand of resin. I've got some and was wondering if I can use it for my tank. Rich Parker >> No. Bondo is polyester. I used it with no problems with avgas. Gary Hinkle garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 22:45:09 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: DONAN5@aol.com Subject: REVFLOW CARBS Message-ID: <57.8b60276.26a91335@aol.com> Just bought one for my sonerai and have the fun of making it work I have it pointing straight down and am having this problem maybe there is a solution. With the throttle on my plane ...When I increse throttle the cable retracts as I would think it should in most planes... With the revflow carb/// The throttle when static as it comes from the box is wide open.... I was wondering how to make it work wide open or full throttle with the throttle control cable being retracted. I see that you can swing the arm all the way around to do this but in doing so the cable guide that secures the cable to the carb is on the top and will not support the cable now ... in this altered position... Any solutions??? Thanks Don Shipley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:26:08 EDT To: DONAN5@aol.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> REVFLOW CARBS Message-ID: In a message dated 7/20/00 10:46:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DONAN5@aol.com writes: > how to make it work Hi Don It sounds like your throttle is of the lever type. If this is true, then you might have to add a bellcrank at some convenient location to reverse the direction of the cable travel. PS. I'm still trying to get to the hanger with the camera for a close up for you. It sounds like you have already passed that point. Orma A&P with Inspection Authorization aviationmech@aol.com http://members.aol.com/aviationmech ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 05:52:16 -0400 To: From: "Tim Bellville" Subject: Re:Posa Message-ID: <001501bff2f9$5b609ce0$b5d12581@default> Does anyone have a #4 posa needle they could part with? I am currently useing a #5 and I have ran out of adjustment with it. Thanks Tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:45:15 GMT To: krnet@mailinglists.org, a51@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Contact! article (long) Message-ID: Collaborators and KR nuts- I got my copy of Contact! magazine in the mail yesterday. The article on the development of the new airfoils for the KR wing is in this issue, No. 57, and Mick Myal did a good job of fitting it in, given the time he had to do it in. My appreciation to all who contributed to the article (whether you knew you were contributing or not!) I didn't write the material, I only gathered, compiled, and edited it. Those of you who were involved in the work and who posted to any of the lists during development wrote the material and I pulled it into a story. Mark Langford did the bulk of the composition when he wrote and posted his report at the conclusion of the development, as you will notice if you compare the text of "my" story to the text of Mark's (posted on his website, and archived to both these lists). Steve Eberhart provided me with dozens of emails from his archives, collected over the several years during which the effort took place. Steve also provided me with lots of background information not contained in the archives. I didn't do any of the research, development, construction, or testing. I've only ridden in a KR once, and I don't even have a KR in the "boat" stage (heck, all I have is an engine and a set of plans!). I was one of the contributors to the "NLF Fund", but beyond that I take no credit for any of the work and I tried to make it clear to Mick that the work was a collaborative effort of a large number of people who all happened to come together at this point in time to make the wing fly. To those who I may have misquoted or misinterpreted, I apologize. To those who I may have overlooked for their part in the development, again I apologize. I tried to remember everything and to say everything right, but you know how it goes. Many, like Randy Stein, hang back in the shadows and "facilitate"... and don't get credit for their help in making things happen. To all of you- thanks for making this happen and for feeding everyone's interest in improving the KR for the benefit of all. Since I'm on the KRNet 'digest' and haven't seen one in a day or two, it might be that this post follows others from some of you who may have already seen the story and commented on it. Blaze away! I'll duck down here in Dana's foxhole and let you folks critique my technical writing (and Mick's editing, though it was very little). It was fun, though I apologize for the long delay in getting the story done. And a plug for KRNet shirts, now that I have the podium: I still have maybe 12 or 15 in various sizes S-M-L-XL and maybe one XXL, still only $30 postpaid. They are all-white polo shirts with a front pocket, and have the KRNet logo embroidered on over the pocket. I also have KRNet caps; adjustable baseball-style, again, white with the KRNet logo embroidered on. A 10-spot will get you one. Although I'll be on vacation for 2 weeks starting Aug. 4 I can maybe still get one to you in time for the KR Gathering. Email me direct, off-net... don't hit 'reply to all'!!! Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:25:22 EDT To: taildrags@hotmail.com, krnet@mailinglists.org, a51@mailinglists.org From: Horn2004@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Contact! article (short) Message-ID: In a message dated 7/21/00 7:46:08 AM, taildrags@hotmail.com writes: <> If you folks haven't seen or read the article, you should. I would consider this required reading for anyone considering building a KR, or anyone currently in the process. Matter of fact, I'd recommend a subscription to CONTACT if you don't already have one. Nice work Oscar! If anybody blazes you for that article, they're obviously several pancakes short of a stack. Steve Horn horn2004@aol.com Dallas, TX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:35:50 -0500 To: , , , From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> Contact! article (short) Message-ID: <000d01bff331$be52aea0$6588aec7@preinstalledcom> How about someone posting an address, etc. for CONTACT. Ed Blocher Moody, AL mailto: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 10:25 AM Subject: Re: KR> Contact! article (short) > > In a message dated 7/21/00 7:46:08 AM, taildrags@hotmail.com writes: > > < might be that this post follows others from some of you who may have already > seen the story and commented on it. Blaze away! I'll duck down here in > Dana's foxhole and let you folks critique my technical writing (and Mick's > editing, though it was very little).>> > > If you folks haven't seen or read the article, you should. I would consider > this required reading for anyone considering building a KR, or anyone > currently in the process. Matter of fact, I'd recommend a subscription to > CONTACT if you don't already have one. > > Nice work Oscar! If anybody blazes you for that article, they're obviously > several pancakes short of a stack. > > Steve Horn > horn2004@aol.com > Dallas, TX > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:52:32 -0500 (CDT) To: Edwin Blocher From: Steven Eberhart cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Contact! article (short) Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Edwin Blocher wrote: > How about someone posting an address, etc. for CONTACT. > Ed Blocher > Moody, AL > mailto: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com Contact! is published by Mick Myal Contact! 2900 East Weymouth Tucson, AZ 85716-1249 contact1@flash.net http://www.nonprofitnet.com/contact/ (520)881 2232 (520)795 6776 FAX Annual Subscription (USD) USA $20 Canada (air) $27 Overseas (surface) $29 Overseas (air) $38 Back issues are $4.00 I encourage all who are not subscribers to call or write Mick and sign up for a subscription to his great magazine. Steve Eberhart mailto:newtech@newtech.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:55:47 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Barkley fun Message-ID: <002701bff334$863f2f40$6588aec7@preinstalledcom> ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BFF30A.9C08ACE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I stayed at Lake Barkley Lodge Sunday night. Saw a beautiful sunset from = my balcony, lots of deer, even a racoon visited my balcony several = times. As of Monday AM only 39 rooms had been reserved by the KR bunch. They = still have rooms available. The dining room starts serving breakfast at = 7:00 AM and they stay open until 9:00PM. Prices are very reasonable with = buffet or menu for all meals. Don't wait until the last minute to get your room reserved as this is = tourist season (fall colors). See ya there=20 Ed Ed Blocher Moody, AL mailto: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BFF30A.9C08ACE0-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************