From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 1 Sep 2000 21:27:09 -0000 Issue 83 Date: Friday, September 01, 2000 1:27 PM krnet Digest 1 Sep 2000 21:27:09 -0000 Issue 83 Topics (messages 1861 through 1881): Re: IFR in KR? ... Trim 1861 by: Tom Crawford 1863 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout 1865 by: KRkip.aol.com Re: Concorde pilot's analsis 1862 by: Ted Fields Re: KR Fly-ins 1864 by: Todd Servaes 1879 by: Todd Servaes Having trouble posting 1866 by: Wolf Packs, Inc KR2 For Sale 1867 by: Wolf Packs, Inc Electronic Ignition 1868 by: AviationMech.aol.com Trim option 1869 by: AviationMech.aol.com Re: IFR in KR 1870 by: UncleLeon.aol.com Re: For sale Friday 1871 by: Richard Parker 1873 by: Mike Mims 1874 by: Tim Bellville 1876 by: Steven Eberhart 1878 by: Robert Stone 1880 by: Ronald R. Eason Engine 1872 by: Timothy Brown O-200 for sale 1875 by: David Mullins LANDING GEAR FOR SALE 1877 by: Schmidt, Curtis Re: brian storming 1881 by: w.g. kirkland Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:11:07 -0400 To: Ross Youngblood From: Tom Crawford CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> IFR in KR? ... Trim Message-ID: <39AD867B.6952@ufl.edu> Ross Youngblood wrote: > > > But this brings me to the stock Trim tab nyrod... if anyone is doing > this, beware the > cable routing shown in the plans, my belief is this is the source of my > trim tab > difficulties. It is too many bends too sharply, which causes some > binding in > the system. I've played with graphite, but am not happy with it. I > still need > to fabricate the trim tab lever as specified by Monte Miller in an > OLD newsletter, > but I have all the parts. > > Can somone tell me what they came up with? I'm not really interested in > going > with the MAC trim tab servo setup... too much work too late. I think I > will try > one or two alternatives before falling back on the MAC electric trim > setup. > > Comments? > > Ross, I'm not trying to sell MAC servo's, but the nyrod really does not work very well. Took me 2 hours to convert it to a MAC system, and I have never looked back. I was able to pull the wires thru the outer nyrod by taping them to the inner nyrod and pulling from the front. Now the outer nyrod acts as a protective sheath for the wires. BTW, I made the manual trim adjuster that you speak of. Looks great. For sale- best offer. -- Tom Crawford Gainesville, FL N262TC Mailto:toys@ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 20:11:14 -0400 To: toys@ufl.edu From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Cc: rossy@teleport.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> IFR in KR? ... Trim Message-ID: <20000830.201440.-247833.3.klw1953@juno.com> Hey I can speak on this subject. I also found the ny rod setup to be less than desirable. I ran 1/4 " alum. tubing from approx. 1' behind the left seat all the way to the exit point on the horiz. stab. I then used nylon tubing in the elevator. After that I ran .050 dia.(I think) piano wire through the tubing to the trim tab. I then got a riding mower throttle assy. and hooked it to the piano wire at a common attach point. My first effort was to use a speedo cable instead of the piano wire, only problem was that it bunched up and stretched a lot. In the full up or down position there is some binding, but in the normal flight mode it works very well. I did leave a larger entrance hole in the elevator to help relieve pinching etc. Kenny PS, Mine hasn't flown yet, but she stays level in the garage!!!!!!!!!! On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:11:07 -0400 Tom Crawford writes: > Ross Youngblood wrote: > > > > > > But this brings me to the stock Trim tab nyrod... if anyone is > doing > > this, beware the > > cable routing shown in the plans, my belief is this is the source > of my > > trim tab > > difficulties. It is too many bends too sharply, which causes > some > > binding in > > the system. I've played with graphite, but am not happy with it. > I > > still need > > to fabricate the trim tab lever as specified by Monte Miller in an > > OLD newsletter, > > but I have all the parts. > > > > Can somone tell me what they came up with? I'm not really > interested in > > going > > with the MAC trim tab servo setup... too much work too late. I > think I > > will try > > one or two alternatives before falling back on the MAC electric > trim > > setup. > > > > Comments? > > > > > > Ross, > > I'm not trying to sell MAC servo's, but the nyrod really does not > work > very well. Took me 2 hours to convert it to a MAC system, and I have > never looked back. I was able to pull the wires thru the outer nyrod > by > taping them to the inner nyrod and pulling from the front. Now the > outer > nyrod acts as a protective sheath for the wires. > > BTW, I made the manual trim adjuster that you speak of. Looks great. > > For sale- best offer. > > > -- > Tom Crawford > Gainesville, FL > N262TC > Mailto:toys@ufl.edu > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:56:21 EDT To: klw1953@juno.com, toys@ufl.edu From: KRkip@aol.com CC: rossy@teleport.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> IFR in KR? ... Trim Message-ID: <7c.a6370a5.26df3165@aol.com> Ross I made a simple system for trim control in my KR by using two speedo cables silversoldered together that run up the left side of the fusalage to the cockpit. There it makes a 90 degree turn through a smooth piece of tubing where i attached a small crank handle to turn the cable. At the other end it passes through the stableiser to exit out of the bottom of the elevator to a normal size trim tab. At the end of the cable i brazed a 2in section of stainless threaded 3/16 rod. On the trimtab control horn i brazed a stainless nut that is atttached to the horn with a steel rivet so it can pivot freely as the trimtab moves up and down. Now as you turn the crank in the cockpit the cable rotates as it would in a car which rotates the threaded rod inthe nut that is attached to the trimtab which moves it up and down. You don't need any friction locks with this system as the cable can not rotate unless you rotate it from the cockpit. This system has always worked great for me and has never failed to workin over 400hrs of flying. Kip Kip Lounsbury Lincoln Me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:42:10 -0500 To: "krnet user group" From: "Ted Fields" Subject: Re: Fw: Concorde pilot's analsis Message-ID: <005d01c012d3$89149200$b96467ce@tbird> > > Subject: Fwd: Fw: Concorde pilot's analsis > > > > > > > > > > > > Picked this up from an acquaintance: > > > > > > > > Thought you guys might like to hear a Concorde pilot's analsis of > > > > what happened in Paris: > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, Jul 28, 2000 7:38:10 AM > > > > From: Chris Olsson 101470,1100 > > > > > > > > Concorde's low-speed aerodynamics are a bitch. She is on the=20 > > > > backside of the drag curve until she's up to at least 250 - 300 > > knots. > > > > Until she reaches a sensible speed she is clawing her way into the > > > > sky in a way that requires vast amounts of power. Without the huge = > > > > power of those wet Olympus engines, she would not be able to get up > > to > > the > > > > sort of speed that can sustain controlled flight, she would just > > wallow > > > > in a horrible low-speed/high-drag corner of the envelope. =20 > > > > In the event of an engine failure on takeoff she has an ample > > > > reserve of excess power to safety get airborne and accelerate to a > > > > good cruise-climb speed, but trying to accelerate to a good speed on > > = > > > > only two engines with the Dunlops dangling in the breeze would be a > > bitch. > > > > Then factor in the effect of the massive fire gushing from the > > collector > > > > tank and toasting the inboard elevon and you have a fiendish > > nightmare = > > > > of a control problem. > > > > > > > > The problem of being on the wrong side of the drag curve is that > > > > at these low speeds the power required INcreases with lower airspeed. > > > > In such a flight regime the only way to get the extra airspeed is to > > > > lower the nose and try to convert height into speed. Obviously this > > is = > > > > not possible at the 200' of altitude which was as high as AF4590 > > managed > > > > in her two minute flight yesterday. It's a classic gotcha. Not > > enough > > > > power to get enough speed to be able to require less power. > > > > Once flying she may be a babe, but how close to the edge is she > > > > on take-off? > > > > > > > > The wing is optimised for supersonic flight and is really not > > > > very efficient at low sub-sonic speeds. Most normal airliners need > > less > > > > thrust to fly at 250 knots than at 350 knots. Not so with > > > > Concorde. At the very high angles of attack which are involved in > > the > > > > intitial climbout, the wing is extremely close to the stall, much > > much = > > > > more than a conventional wing. One of the clever tricks which the > > > > aerodynamicists devised for Concorde was the deliberate introduction > > of = > > > > vortex flow over the wing to generate a controlled separation of the > > > airflow > > > > from = > > > > the boundary layer. The S-shaped planform of the leading edge of the > > > > wing is not an aesthetic thing, it is a clever trick to generate a > > > > "friendly" vortex which energised the air over the top of the wing > > and = > > > > creates what is called "vortex lift". > > > > > > > > There are a couple of very unforgiving characteristics inherent > > > > in the delta configuration. The wing tends to be speed-unstable. A > > > > conventional wing/tail configuration has a stable tendency to regain > > > > a trimmed speed in the event of a slight disturbance such a > > turbulence > > > > or a wee nudge on the control cloumn. A delta, such as Concorde, > > > > Mirage, Vulcan etc, tends to diverge from a trimmed speed. This makes > > it > > > > much more difficult to maintain an optimum angle of attack, > > particularly > > > > at low speeds. > > > > > > > > Another unpleasant characteristic is that she tends to pitch > > > > *up* at the stall, unlike a normal configuration which is designed to > > = > > > > pitch down at the stall. Of course pitching up makes the stall even > > worse. > > > > There's more bad news at the stall! To push the nose down in order > > to = > > > > gain more speed and get away from the stall, the pilot lower the > > elevons. > > > = > > > > This has the effect of increasing the effective camber of the wing, > > which > > > in > > > > effect Increases the angle of attack which is causing the stall in > > > > the first place. It's a classic gotcha. > > > > > > > > The eyewitness reports of the Concorde rearing up onto its tail > > > > before sliding down into the Hotelissimo is a classic description of > > > > a delta wing stalling. The romantic nonsense about the pilot pulling > > > > up to fly over the hotel is just journalistic fantasy. The handling = > > > > pilot was doing his best to keep the aircraft airborne by finessing > > the > > > pitch > > > > angle to wring every gramme of lift out of the wing in a desperate=20 > > > > attempt to go the extra mile or two and get the aircraft to > > LeBourget. > > > > > > > > The ghastly situation which the three crew faced on that > > > > flightdeck is enough to give anyone the heebiejeebies. They did their > > = > > > > best, but were completely overwhelmed by their predicament. > > > > > > > > The part of the story which I just do not understand is: why did the > > ATC > > > > Tower wait so long before telling the crew that their arse was on > > fire? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:12:55 -0700 To: "Wolf Packs, Inc" From: Todd Servaes CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: RE: KR Fly-ins Message-ID: <39ADA307.5F839A43@netzero.net> Dear Paul, Not only grass but shade trees for camping under. You and all other KR types are welcome to meet at the Exhibitor Services booth in the Exhibit Hall, I and my staff, several of us are building KRs, will keep a sign-up sheet so we KR types can find out who else is at the Golden West. We will all also gather in one of the large forum tents Saturday 9/9 after the standard forums for a KR group meeting. The forum tent number will be available on the forum scedule board and or at the Exhibitor Services Booth. Todd Servaes KR-2S Builder GWAA V. P. _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 08:48:14 -0700 To: Frank Ross , KRNET , "\"Wolf Packs\""@netzero.net, Inc From: Todd Servaes Subject: RE: KR Fly-ins Message-ID: <39AFCFBE.FD9EAD9E@netzero.net> Paul, Frank and All Western KR Types; The Golden West EAA Regional Fly-in 2000 KR Group Meeting will be on Saturday 9/9/00 in Forum Tent #1 at 5:45pm. As of now the only agenda is to meet each other and have a KR round table discussion. If anyone wants to organize more and will act as moderator it is OK with me. I look forward to seeing the KRs, oh and meeting the pilot builders too I guess. Todd ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 01:05:40 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Wolf Packs, Inc" Subject: Having trouble posting Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000831010508.00b7f420@pop.mindspring.com> Test # 9 Linda von Hanneken-Martin Wolf PacksŪ - Gear for Working Dogs Phone/FAX: 541-482-7669 web: http://wolfpacks.com ~ email: mailto:traildog@wolfpacks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 01:19:08 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Wolf Packs, Inc" Subject: KR2 For Sale Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000831011108.00b8b960@pop.mindspring.com> This is my fifth attempt to send this, sorry if it comes through more than once. As some of you already know I'm looking for an airplane that fits my wife's tastes and here's the sad part, we'll need the money from the KR to afford one. I thought the "sports car" airplane would suit our (my) needs but after several KR flights with me Linda has developed two requirements: 1. A high wing so she can see all the cool stuff we're flying over and, 2. extra room for baggage (a tent, 2 sleeping bags, and a gear bag). It wasn't a very full load last weekend with all my camping stuff in Linda's seat, and I guess the foam mattress could have been left at home ;-), but for two adult campers plus their gear a standard KR2 just isn't big enough. Yes, I thought of a "Pod" for the gear but she's holding firm on the high wing requirement :-(. Please e-mail me off the list with any replies. You can see full details and photos at http://wolfpacks.com/KR The price is 9,500 including the GPS and nav/com radio. I'd be interested in trading (plus cash) if you have something that might fit our needs (Tri-Pacer, Colt, high wing experimental, etc.) Unless it's raining I'll fly the KR to the Sacramento Fly-in on the 8th so if you'd like to see it in person, come say hello. I'll probably head for home early Sunday morning. Paul Martin paul@wolfpacks.com Ashland, OR 541-488-8800 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:33:30 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Electronic Ignition Message-ID: I contacted Sonex about their adaption of a Ford electronic ignition for their VW powered craft. Their response was to watch their web site for upcoming information on the system they are developing. Orma A&P /IA KR builder/driver N110LR aviationmech@aol.com http://members.aol.com/aviationmech ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:33:28 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Trim option Message-ID: <8e.9fcc10b.26dfb8a8@aol.com> N110LR has both elevator and rudder trim. For me this system was a given, when I purchased the project the tail feathers already had them installed. All I had to do was build a power supply, add wires and switches. Sixteen years later the system stills works. My system consists of RC servo's and attaching RC hardware. The weight of the components is light, and the control surfaces are balanced to compensate. The hardware has withstood the test of time. A single 4 wire conductor (Telepnone) sends forward and reverse current to each servo. My panel contains two DPDT switches and a power supply to provide 5VDC. My first power supply was a voltage divider made from the large car resisters. It was OK but was always hot. In '94', I redesigned the power supply using an IC and made it such that it gave power only on demand and produced no heat. I purchased a MAC servo many years ago as a replacement for the Toy parts, and never had the need to replace the RC servo's. The MAC awaits another useful purpose, perhaps a wing leveler. Orma A&P /IA KR builder/driver N110LR aviationmech@aol.com http://members.aol.com/aviationmech ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:43:01 EDT To: krnet-digest-help@mailinglists.org, krnet@mailinglists.org From: UncleLeon@aol.com Subject: Re: IFR in KR Message-ID: <26.a29bbe7.26dfbae5@aol.com> <<..... but I think you could transition through clouds safely to VFR-on top conditions, such are present in Oregon frequently >> - and then what? When you're IFR "on top" you've got to come down some time. You may not have a choice of making a VFR approach. Even if the forcast is for "clear" at your destination airport, I wouldn't bet my life on it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 23:20:41 GMT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: RE: For sale Friday Message-ID: I've dropped the price on my Subaru engine and included the prop. I'll let it go to a KR-net memver for $1300 including the brand new 3 bladed Warp Drive prop It can be seen at http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/ea81.htm Rich Parker _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 23:52:00 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: For sale Friday Message-ID: <20000901065200.27540.qmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com> Also I still have the Lycoming for sale. Same price as before and pictures can be seen at: http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/engine.html scroll to the bottom of the page. Oh yeah did I forget to tell you that Ebay is a freaking JOKE!! Some moron logged on to Ebay and submitted a bid on my engine just to find out what the minimum bid I would accept. Then of course he was high bidder and when I didn't hear from him I decided to call him. He was like,...ah,....who is this?,.....ah,......that musta been my little boy,.....yeah that's it,....it was my son. Well meanwhile Ebay considers this a successful auction and charges me their commission. I have yet to get my money back from Ebay and they will not respond to my email. Just thought I would warn you guys. ===== ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] -----Y2K Bug--- Yes I drive one! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 06:16:49 -0400 To: "Richard Parker" , From: "Tim Bellville" Subject: Re: KR> RE: For sale Friday Message-ID: <003b01c013fd$c02b7120$49d12581@default> I have several carbs sitting around that I'll let go for a reasonable price or trade for instruments(VSI/CHT/EGT) One Posa supercarb two Bing 34 2bbl carbs two kei-hine carbs. Thanks Tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 07:19:50 -0500 (CDT) To: Mike Mims From: Steven Eberhart cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> For sale Friday Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Mike Mims wrote: > Well meanwhile Ebay considers this a successful > auction and charges me their commission. I have yet to > get my money back from Ebay and they will not respond > to my email. Just thought I would warn you guys. I had a Zenoah G62 62cc giant scale R/C engine on ebay six months ago. Didn't need the engine and I was still flying three times a week while finishing up my PP-ASEL so I thought I would turn the engine into three flying lessons. THe winning bidder never returned my emails. I eventually found out that he had a Zenoah of his own that was to sell a day later than mine. He put in a high bid on mine so that his would sell. THe twirp even added my JPG to his description as it was better than his. I got screwed for the auction charges also. Ebay has some work to do as it is getting a reputation as a rip off house. Steve Eberhart mailto:newtech@newtech.com THE WING FLIES! - http://www.newtech.com/nlf for info on the new, flight tested, KRnet/UIUC airfoils. Good job KRnet, you can be proud of your contribution to Sport Aviation. Special thanks to Dr. Ashok Gopalarathnam and Dr. Michael Selig for some great Sport Aviation airfoils. One test is worth a thousand expert opinions but a thousand opinions are easier to get. --plagiarized from an unknown author All information, in any of my aircraft related correspondence, is strictly food for thought requiring additional, qualified, engineering analysis. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:17:28 -0500 To: "Steven Eberhart" , "Mike Mims" From: "Robert Stone" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> For sale Friday Message-ID: <000f01c014f9$fa2ded60$0101a8c0@pavilion> All netters: Since Steven and Mike both got shafted by Ebay everyone should use Barnstormers in the future. They are no charge even if you sell what you have to sell or buy what you are looking for. Bob Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Eberhart" To: "Mike Mims" Cc: Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 7:19 AM Subject: Re: KR> For sale Friday > On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Mike Mims wrote: > > > Well meanwhile Ebay considers this a successful > > auction and charges me their commission. I have yet to > > get my money back from Ebay and they will not respond > > to my email. Just thought I would warn you guys. > > I had a Zenoah G62 62cc giant scale R/C engine on ebay six months ago. > Didn't need the engine and I was still flying three times a week while > finishing up my PP-ASEL so I thought I would turn the engine into three > flying lessons. THe winning bidder never returned my emails. I > eventually found out that he had a Zenoah of his own that was to sell a > day later than mine. He put in a high bid on mine so that his would sell. > THe twirp even added my JPG to his description as it was better than his. > I got screwed for the auction charges also. Ebay has some work to do as > it is getting a reputation as a rip off house. > > > Steve Eberhart > mailto:newtech@newtech.com > > THE WING FLIES! - http://www.newtech.com/nlf for info on the new, flight > tested, KRnet/UIUC airfoils. Good job KRnet, you can be proud of your > contribution to Sport Aviation. Special thanks to Dr. Ashok Gopalarathnam > and Dr. Michael Selig for some great Sport Aviation airfoils. > > One test is worth a thousand expert opinions but a thousand opinions are > easier to get. --plagiarized from an unknown author > > All information, in any of my aircraft related correspondence, is strictly > food for thought requiring additional, qualified, engineering analysis. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:49:34 -0500 To: "Robert Stone" , "Steven Eberhart" , "Mike Mims" From: "Ronald R. Eason" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> For sale Friday Message-ID: <000b01c01445$6146c220$547239ce@winbook> That true, my HUD is on it. KRron -----Original Message----- From: Robert Stone To: Steven Eberhart ; Mike Mims Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:23 AM Subject: Re: KR> For sale Friday >All netters: Since Steven and Mike both got shafted by Ebay everyone should >use Barnstormers in the future. They are no charge even if you sell what >you have to sell or buy what you are looking for. > > Bob Stone > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steven Eberhart" >To: "Mike Mims" >Cc: >Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 7:19 AM >Subject: Re: KR> For sale Friday > > >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Mike Mims wrote: >> >> > Well meanwhile Ebay considers this a successful >> > auction and charges me their commission. I have yet to >> > get my money back from Ebay and they will not respond >> > to my email. Just thought I would warn you guys. >> >> I had a Zenoah G62 62cc giant scale R/C engine on ebay six months ago. >> Didn't need the engine and I was still flying three times a week while >> finishing up my PP-ASEL so I thought I would turn the engine into three >> flying lessons. THe winning bidder never returned my emails. I >> eventually found out that he had a Zenoah of his own that was to sell a >> day later than mine. He put in a high bid on mine so that his would sell. >> THe twirp even added my JPG to his description as it was better than his. >> I got screwed for the auction charges also. Ebay has some work to do as >> it is getting a reputation as a rip off house. >> >> >> Steve Eberhart >> mailto:newtech@newtech.com >> >> THE WING FLIES! - http://www.newtech.com/nlf for info on the new, flight >> tested, KRnet/UIUC airfoils. Good job KRnet, you can be proud of your >> contribution to Sport Aviation. Special thanks to Dr. Ashok Gopalarathnam >> and Dr. Michael Selig for some great Sport Aviation airfoils. >> >> One test is worth a thousand expert opinions but a thousand opinions are >> easier to get. --plagiarized from an unknown author >> >> All information, in any of my aircraft related correspondence, is strictly >> food for thought requiring additional, qualified, engineering analysis. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:41:43 -0700 (PDT) To: Group KR NET From: Timothy Brown Subject: Engine Message-ID: <20000901034143.7494.qmail@web616.mail.yahoo.com> WANTED: It's never too early to start is my philosophy. I have decided I want a Revmaster 2100 to power my KR. For those of you that have "left" your project or have decided to go with the Covair or other power plant, please contact me to dispose of your Revmaster. I would prefer the western US so I can pick it up and see it and save shipping (I'm cheap), but will consider all if the price is right. Contact me direct at timwbrown@yahoo.com Thanks Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 07:51:29 -0400 To: krnet From: David Mullins Subject: O-200 for sale Message-ID: <39AF9841.3D56CF58@ici.net> Here is an engine one of my chapter members has. If anyone is interested. Contact Dick Apgar privately Dave M Nashua, New Hampshire Continental 0-200A for sale 1 hour since Mattituck rebuild New carburetor; Slick mags; key start El Reno oil filter (spin on) Running on airframe $12,900.00 Richard. P. Apgar Box 14 E. Derry, NH 03041 603-432-9868 mailto:h2aircraft@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: 1 Sep 2000 06:08:00 -0700 To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: "Schmidt, Curtis" Subject: LANDING GEAR FOR SALE Message-ID: <00012659@kaydon.com> HEY GUYS: Just dropping a note to whom ever might be interested, I have a set of RR r= etracts with the HAPI locks for sale! They have never been in the air but are installed in my airplane, it won't = take long to pull them out so if you want them, $100.00 plus shipping will get them for you! CURTIS R SCHMIDT CNC TOOLING & PROGRAMMING LARNED KANSAS USA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:32:04 -0400 To: "ROBERT COOPER" , From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: Re: KR> brian storming Message-ID: <003f01c0145c$13ba5820$cc905bd1@kirkland> Robert; I have a similar problem for different reasons. My legs don't work well and lifting them up is difficult. What about a drop down door a la spitfire. Now all you have to do is figure out how to pick up the load on the longeron. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT COOPER" To: Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:35 PM Subject: KR> brian storming Netters For an old fat guy who's bones don't move so well, getting into and out of a KR can be a challenge. I've been trying to come up with ideals that would make it easier to enter and exit. I have been considering making the instrument panel attached to the canopy frame so that it raises up with the canopy. One of many concerns is the fact that the electrical wires and pitot static tubes would have to be flexed every time the canopy is opened and closed, but I think that they could be made to do safely. After all there is a wire bundle in most car doors thet get flexed quite often. I'm planning on center mounted engine controls but they may be fixed so as not to rotate with the canpoy. I also will not have a header tank so I will have plenty of room between the instrument panel and the fire wall. I can also move the hinge point closer to the fire wall if necessary. Another Ideal is to hinge the instrument panel seperately from the canopy so that it could be raised a few inches with the canopy open. I'm sure there are many things that I have not thought of and I'm asking for your input as this is still very much in the thinking and planning stage. Please feel free to offer suggestions as to why or why not and how or how not to do this. I also would appreciate any likely problems you can think of. It is called experimental isn't it. Hope to see everyone at the gathering. Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.geocities.com/kr2cooper/ Fayetteville, NC. ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************