From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 2 Dec 2000 18:41:36 -0000 Issue 133 Date: Saturday, December 02, 2000 10:41 AM krnet Digest 2 Dec 2000 18:41:36 -0000 Issue 133 Topics (messages 3178 through 3207): Re: Questions from a lurking newbie 3178 by: GARYKR2.cs.com 3179 by: Albert Pecoraro 3184 by: Frank Ross Upper gear leg fairings 3180 by: John and Janet Martindale 2nd minded 3181 by: Oscar Zuniga PROP HUB 3182 by: Schmidt, Curtis angle finder 3183 by: Mark Langford 3185 by: Edwin Blocher 3187 by: Jim Payne Licensing Help Needed!!! 3186 by: Micheal Fox 3188 by: Horn2004.aol.com 3189 by: Donald Reid 3190 by: John P Moyle 3192 by: Kenneth Burch 3193 by: Ron Eason 3195 by: Patrick Driscoll 3196 by: George Allen 3197 by: Jeffrey S Weeks 3198 by: virgnvs.juno.com 3199 by: virgnvs.juno.com 3200 by: jwells1.impop.bellatlantic.net 3202 by: Gaston Landry 3203 by: Tom Crawford 3204 by: Eddie6870.aol.com 3206 by: BillStarrs 3207 by: Edwin Blocher LICENSE HELP 3191 by: Phil Visconti Duats & NexRad 3194 by: KR2616TJ.aol.com altternator 3201 by: james mcdonaugh medicals 3205 by: w.g. kirkland Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:17:56 EST To: mrbob4you@yahoo.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Re: KR> Questions from a lurking newbie Message-ID: <92.cff7400.27587264@cs.com> In a message dated 11/29/00 2:49:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, mrbob4you@yahoo.com writes: << 3-This would be my first project in building something of this nature. Would it be worthwhile to build something a bit simpler, say an ultralight, just to refine my skills before tackling the KR? >> If you can build a model airplane, you can build a KR. The only difference is the price, but that doesn't seem that big if you built a 1/4 or 1/3 scale before. Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:21:56 -0500 To: From: "Albert Pecoraro" Subject: Re: KR> Questions from a lurking newbie Message-ID: <000601c05b4e$3f5b5220$49d4b23f@steelcase.com> > In a message dated 11/29/00 2:49:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, > mrbob4you@yahoo.com writes: > > << 3-This would be my first project in building something > of this nature. Would it be worthwhile to build > something a bit simpler, say an ultralight, just to > refine my skills before tackling the KR? >> > I had the same concerns you did regarding the skills required to build a KR. When I looked in to the KR, I asked myself what (basic) skills would be required to build a KR: 1) Woodworking - I did most of my cuts by hand with a reverse-pull saw (Japanese saw). I also used a table saw for the more elaborate cuts. Other tools I used were router, hand files, hand planer, and sandpaper to do the woodwork. As far as mixing the epoxy, I used T-88 with the 1:1 dispenser gun - perfect mix every time. 2) Fiberglass/composite - This was my biggest concern since I had no experience whatsoever working with fiberglass and epoxy. When you were in elementary school, did you ever do paper-mache' in arts&crafts? If you did you probably made an easter egg by taking strips of newspaper wetted with a mixture of flour and water (called mache') and applied it over an inflated rubber balloon. When the mache' hardened you were left with a hard easter egg that you then painted. Working with fiberglass is analogous to paper-mache' ... except that mache' doesn't exotherm! ;-) Fiberglass replaces the newspaper, epoxy resin replaces the mache', foam cores replace the balloon. Simple, isn't it?! ;-) 3) Metalworking - Most of the aluminum parts needed on the KR can be cut with a hacksaw or bandsaw, and filed with a hand mill file and emery cloth. A Dremel tool with deburring tips works great. For the Wing Attach Fittings, if you don't have access to a CNC you are better of purchasing them premade. No welding is necessary unless you decide to build your own parts. 4) Engine & Instrumentation - Again, something I know nothing about ... engines. The KR was designed for a VW powerplant. If you know how to work with VW engines, great. If not, you can always find someone who can build you an engine and hang it on your airplane. There are also other engines you can use instead of VW. Nuff said here. 5) Paint - There are some paint systems on the market that can be applied with a roller and brush. So you don't have to be concerned with using spray guns and such. This part of the project can take quite a chunk of the overall time ... Major question ... do you like sanding?! ;-) If you do, have we got a SONG for you!!! ;-) For each of the above areas, you can always practice on small pieces before actually doing the "real" thing. For example, the wood joints are butt ended with gussets for reinforcement. Take a few pieces of scrap wood that is more or less the same dimension as what will be used on the plane and practice making that piece until you are comfortable. I made 5 practice pieces before I cut any wood for the plane. The learning curve is quick. Same applies for the other areas. My hangup was fiberglass ... it still is! ;-) Hope this helps. Albert Pecoraro http://home.earthlink.net/~gryphonflier ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:04:16 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Questions from a lurking newbie Message-ID: <20001201170416.28941.qmail@web4702.mail.yahoo.com> --- Albert Pecoraro wrote: > For each of the above areas, you can always practice > on small pieces before > actually doing the "real" thing. ... > Same applies for the other areas. My hangup was > fiberglass ... it still is! > ;-) > Hope this helps. > > Albert Pecoraro Albert, Great comments. To re-inforce the point, use inexpensive materials and get some practice before attempting the "real thing." Many KR builders make the rudder first because you can screw up a lot of them and still not be out much. Make a prototype fuselage of real cheap pine and door plywood and make mistakes there before cutting the expensive stuff. Don't even have to use epoxy on the PRACTICE ones. It's the cutting and fitting that you're after. Then use the practice units for display at Fly-ins or youth events. Or make mulch out of them. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:24:30 +1100 To: "KRnet" From: "John and Janet Martindale" Subject: Upper gear leg fairings Message-ID: <003201c05b89$5dcc6f60$0493fcd8@JohnMartindale> ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C05BE5.7923C680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks I've epoxied my Diehl fixed upper gear leg fairings to the lower wing = skin and to the leg itself and now find that even slight flex of the leg = is putting tension on the lower skin. I'm scared that a heavy or even = normal landing might cause additional flex such that the skin gets = cracked or pulled away from the foam. Has anyone else had this problem = who can suggest a solution. The Diehl instructions stress to leave flox = off the lower casting...presumably to allow the leg to flex through a = curve yet attaching the fairing provided to the wing seems to prevent = this occurring. Regards John Martindale Australia. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C05BE5.7923C680-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 13:59:11 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: 2nd minded Message-ID: Drew wrote: >I am having second thoughts about the KR2. I have heard that >metal homebuilts are relatively easier to build than wood >Opinions and comments are much appreciated. Drew! Best of both worlds- can you say S-O-N-E-X? Check out the Sonex builders' list at egroups. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: 1 Dec 2000 08:20:00 -0700 To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: "Schmidt, Curtis" Subject: PROP HUB Message-ID: <00031955@kaydon.com> HEY GUYS: I just have a couple of quick questions, Can anyone tell me what the OD of the Force one prop hub bearing for a type= 4 is? I also need the center to center distance for the mount lugs on the Diehl a= ccessory case. CURTIS R SCHMIDT CNC TOOLING & PROGRAMMING LARNED KANSAS USA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:49:03 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: angle finder Message-ID: <001301c05bae$3b8d0a70$58e6a58c@tbe.com> From Bob Stone: KR Builders: http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/anglefinder.jpg is from the Harbor Freight winter 2000 catalog and is one of the best and cheapest tools for finding angles I have seen. When I was helping Rich McCall on his KR-2S (Much modified) aircraft we used it to set the angle of incidence, dihedral, washout and elevator up-down limits. Hope it helps some of you. Bob Stone Harker Heights, Tx --------------------------- I might add that you can buy something similar from Sears, Home Depot, etc. Somebody commented a while back how inaccurate Smart Levels were compared to water levels. All I can say is that a properly calibrated Smart Level is accurate to within fractions of a degree (and it's repeatable), and more importantly is absolutely instant. I wish I had a nickel for all the hours I wasted screwing around with a water level and calulating angular differences using inverse tangents, since a water level only tells you when something's level, not how many degrees of incidence travel something has. Wer'e litterally talking about an hour to make a measurement, compared to seconds. I'll keep my SmartTool... (Mark) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:28:28 -0600 To: "Mark Langford" , From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> angle finder Message-ID: <003c01c05bcc$e542f340$6ee579a5@computer> I'll add my endorsement of the Smart Level to Mark's. I also heard remarks at the woodworking forum at the Gathering that they had to be recalibrated frequently. I hauled mine around in my truck to Barkley, banged it around at the forum, etc. and checked it after I got home. Dead on. I also could have saved time, for example when I set the tailpost. I use it now every day just to re-check level on everything. Lay a laser level on it and you can expand its use, example: measure for proper dihedral from fuselage to spar tip when locating WAFs. No end to what you can do with Smart Level and/or Laser level. Ed Blocher kr-n899eb@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Langford To: Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 9:49 AM Subject: KR> angle finder > From Bob Stone: > > KR Builders: http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/anglefinder.jpg is from the > Harbor Freight winter 2000 catalog and is one of the best and cheapest tools > for finding angles I have seen. When I was helping Rich McCall on his KR-2S > (Much modified) aircraft we used it to set the angle of incidence, dihedral, > washout and elevator up-down limits. Hope it helps some of you. > > Bob Stone > Harker Heights, Tx > --------------------------- > > I might add that you can buy something similar from Sears, Home Depot, etc. > > Somebody commented a while back how inaccurate Smart Levels were compared to > water levels. All I can say is that a properly calibrated Smart Level is > accurate to within fractions of a degree (and it's repeatable), and more > importantly is absolutely instant. I wish I had a nickel for all the hours > I wasted screwing around with a water level and calulating angular > differences using inverse tangents, since a water level only tells you when > something's level, not how many degrees of incidence travel something has. > Wer'e litterally talking about an hour to make a measurement, compared to > seconds. I'll keep my SmartTool... > > (Mark) > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:00:19 -0500 To: From: "Jim Payne" Subject: RE: KR> angle finder Message-ID: Since it's close to Christmas, can anyone recommend a particular brand of smart level? I'm preparing my Christmas list.... I've been very good this year. :) Jim Payne jim@manufacturingconcepts.com -----Original Message----- From: Edwin Blocher [mailto:kr-n899eb@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 2:28 PM To: Mark Langford; krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> angle finder Importance: High I'll add my endorsement of the Smart Level to Mark's. I also heard remarks at the woodworking forum at the Gathering that they had to be recalibrated frequently. I hauled mine around in my truck to Barkley, banged it around at the forum, etc. and checked it after I got home. Dead on. I also could have saved time, for example when I set the tailpost. I use it now every day just to re-check level on everything. Lay a laser level on it and you can expand its use, example: measure for proper dihedral from fuselage to spar tip when locating WAFs. No end to what you can do with Smart Level and/or Laser level. Ed Blocher kr-n899eb@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Langford To: Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 9:49 AM Subject: KR> angle finder > From Bob Stone: > > KR Builders: http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/anglefinder.jpg is from the > Harbor Freight winter 2000 catalog and is one of the best and cheapest tools > for finding angles I have seen. When I was helping Rich McCall on his KR-2S > (Much modified) aircraft we used it to set the angle of incidence, dihedral, > washout and elevator up-down limits. Hope it helps some of you. > > Bob Stone > Harker Heights, Tx > --------------------------- > > I might add that you can buy something similar from Sears, Home Depot, etc. > > Somebody commented a while back how inaccurate Smart Levels were compared to > water levels. All I can say is that a properly calibrated Smart Level is > accurate to within fractions of a degree (and it's repeatable), and more > importantly is absolutely instant. I wish I had a nickel for all the hours > I wasted screwing around with a water level and calulating angular > differences using inverse tangents, since a water level only tells you when > something's level, not how many degrees of incidence travel something has. > Wer'e litterally talking about an hour to make a measurement, compared to > seconds. I'll keep my SmartTool... > > (Mark) > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 13:55:45 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Micheal Fox Subject: Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20001201134612.009f0090@pop3.quixnet.net> To All KR Net, This is an SOS from a newbe who has been planning to get his pilots license & build a plane. My Doctor just told me that because I have a medical history of having 2 strokes in 1997 I will not get my pilots license. Is this true??? If it is, is there a limited or restricted license or a license without a medical requirement?? Help!!! foxyrn@quixnet.net or foxyrn@usa.net Micheal J. Fox RN,BSN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:49:15 EST To: foxyrn@quixnet.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Horn2004@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <6b.c9afb59.275976db@aol.com> In a message dated 12/1/00 2:41:54 PM, foxyrn@QuixNet.net writes: <> EAA has been pushing real hard to get the Feds to allow self medical certification for 3rd class medical status. With a recent history of 2 strokes, it's very unlikely you're going to pass a medical. I don't know the specifics of the requirements of a Recreational Pilots License, but I do think you could be flying ultralights with no medical. I may be wrong, but I think this is the case. Anybody? Steve Horn horn2004@aol.com Dallas, TX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:06:37 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001201170254.009529e0@pop.erols.com> --=====================_5860962==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:55 PM 12/1/2000 -0600, Micheal Fox wrote: > To All KR Net, > This is an SOS from a newbe who has been planning to get his pilots > license & build a plane. My Doctor just told me that because I have a > medical history of having 2 strokes in 1997 I will not get my pilots > license. Is this true??? If it is, is there a limited or restricted > license or a license without a medical > requirement?? Help!!! foxyrn@quixnet.net or foxyrn@usa.net Micheal > J. Fox RN,BSN You do not need a medical of any sort for ultralights. I think (but may be wrong) that you self-certify your health to fly sailplanes and motor gliders. No medical required. The proposed recreational pilot's license will require that you hold either a valid Class III medical or a valid driver's license. The proposal may not make it into law. --=====================_5860962==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:03:56 -0800 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: John P Moyle Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <20001201.140357.-3775523.1.jmoyle1@juno.com> To: foxyrn@QuixNet.net Cc: jmoyle1@juno.com Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:11:36 -0800 Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Friday, December 1st, 2000 Michael, Welcome aboard, and welcome to the club !! As far as the medical troubles go, I too have been fighting this issue for years, but at last there is REAL hope on the horizon. The new Sport Pilot category is soon to be established, and included in this deal is the "medical" provision that the pilot either possess a class 3 medical OR a valid drivers license. Chances are you have a drivers license, right!? There are some restrictions as to which planes you can operate, and where, and when. ( single engine craft under 1200 lbs. gross wt.; not in restricted airspace; day VFR; one or two place only. ) The KR2 fits neatly into this scenario, and this deal should become law quicker than you can get your plane together. The full proposal will be published in Sport Aviation magazine in January I think, and the rule should go active this coming summer. There is hope for those of us who have been excluded until now by FAA medical rules. Hang in there !! John Moyle mailto:jmoyle1@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:41:48 -0600 To: Horn2004@aol.com From: Kenneth Burch CC: foxyrn@quixnet.net, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <3A28292C.EAEBC2F7@bellsouth.net> The FAA told me no medical is required for a motor-glider. The KR1B is such a machine. It simply uses longer wings with a few changes but the wing roots are the same as for the KR1. I have started mine. Ken Burch Horn2004@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/1/00 2:41:54 PM, foxyrn@QuixNet.net writes: > > < medical history of having 2 strokes in 1997 I will not get my pilots > license. Is this true??? If it is, is there a limited or restricted license > or a license without a medical > requirement??>> > > EAA has been pushing real hard to get the Feds to allow self medical > certification for 3rd class medical status. With a recent history of 2 > strokes, it's very unlikely you're going to pass a medical. I don't know the > specifics of the requirements of a Recreational Pilots License, but I do > think you could be flying ultralights with no medical. I may be wrong, but I > think this is the case. > > Anybody? > > Steve Horn > horn2004@aol.com > Dallas, TX > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:04:16 -0600 To: , , From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <001001c05bf3$6b6f2300$6a7239ce@dana-coe> I have had a Quad by-pass operation in 1995 and I was able to get a Medical / 3rd Class after I passed a Stress Test on a tread mil. All of my medical history has been filled and they have records from 3 separate doctors. If I can do this babe you can with enough effort. How much do you want it? It will talk effort and time. Write or call FAA-Oklahoma and ask for instructions to present your case. KRRon -----Original Message----- From: Horn2004@aol.com To: foxyrn@quixnet.net ; krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Friday, December 01, 2000 3:50 PM Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! > >In a message dated 12/1/00 2:41:54 PM, foxyrn@QuixNet.net writes: > ><medical history of having 2 strokes in 1997 I will not get my pilots >license. Is this true??? If it is, is there a limited or restricted license >or a license without a medical >requirement??>> > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:28:10 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org, "Micheal Fox" From: "Patrick Driscoll" Subject: RE: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <412000126212810140@earthlink.net> Mike, If you are married or plan on being married, have your wife/girlfriend get a license. Then you can fly anytime you want as long as she is with you. I had a heart attack in 1995 and that is how I'm getting around it. Don't waste money on a girlfriend that might take off (pun intended) after she has spent your money. > [Original Message] > From: Micheal Fox > To: > Date: 12/1/00 1:54:27 PM > Subject: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! > > To All KR Net, > This is an SOS from a newbe who has been planning to get his pilots > license & build a plane. My Doctor just told me that because I have a > medical history of having 2 strokes in 1997 I will not get my pilots > license. Is this true??? If it is, is there a limited or restricted license > or a license without a medical > requirement?? Help!!! foxyrn@quixnet.net or foxyrn@usa.net Micheal J. > Fox RN,BSN > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > --- Patrick Driscoll --- patrick36@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:25:51 -0500 To: From: "George Allen" Subject: Re: KR>Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <002701c05bfe$db7d0bc0$efa4dcd8@george> ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C05BD4.E60426C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Micheal, You can fly a legal ultralight, as they require no physical. = But you still have to get a lic. from the USUA (United States Ultralight = Assoc.) if you want to insure your plane. It only takes about 15 hours = of training. You would have to be crazy not to take the ultralight = lessons. They are just as important as regular flying lessons, if you = want to stay alive. Most pilots with half a brain will take lessons = because ultralights have very different flying characteristics then your = regular tin can or homebuilt. Have fun and let us know how your'e doing.=20 Good Luck, George H. Allen ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C05BD4.E60426C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:35:11 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Jeffrey S Weeks Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <20001201.193520.-923605.1.jsweeks@juno.com> ----__JNP_000_4948.3283.66dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another newbie here. From recent discussions at a local USUA club and EAA ultralight chapter, I don't think the KR-2 will fit the stall speed requirement that has been kicked around. The new rule will most likely apply to aircraft 254 pounds to 1232 pounds gross with a maximum stall speed clean of 39 knots. Don't know if a KR can be made to stall this slowly without some help. Scott Weeks Hermitage, TN ----__JNP_000_4948.3283.66dc-- ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 23:24:56 -0500 To: jmoyle1@juno.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <20001201.232913.-144501.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Also try thr KR-1b Motor Glider, Virg On Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:03:56 -0800 John P Moyle writes: > To: foxyrn@QuixNet.net > Cc: jmoyle1@juno.com > Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:11:36 -0800 > Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! > > > Friday, December 1st, 2000 > > Michael, > Welcome aboard, and welcome to the club !! As far as > the medical troubles go, I too have been fighting this issue for > years, but at last there is REAL hope on the horizon. The new > Sport Pilot category is soon to be established, and included in > this deal is the "medical" provision that the pilot either possess > a class 3 medical OR a valid drivers license. Chances are you > have a drivers license, right!? There are some restrictions as to > which planes you can operate, and where, and when. ( single > engine craft under 1200 lbs. gross wt.; not in restricted airspace; > day VFR; one or two place only. ) The KR2 fits neatly into this > scenario, and this deal should become law quicker than you can > get your plane together. The full proposal will be published in > Sport Aviation magazine in January I think, and the rule should > go active this coming summer. There is hope for those of us who > have been excluded until now by FAA medical rules. > > Hang in there !! > John > Moyle > > mailto:jmoyle1@juno.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 23:29:00 -0500 To: jsweeks@juno.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <20001201.232913.-144501.2.virgnvs@juno.com> RR Wing skins w/the built in extensions and VERY light, maybe ?? Virg On Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:35:11 -0600 Jeffrey S Weeks writes: > Another newbie here. From recent discussions at a local USUA club > and > EAA ultralight chapter, I don't think the KR-2 will fit the stall > speed > requirement that has been kicked around. The new rule will most > likely > apply to aircraft 254 pounds to 1232 pounds gross with a maximum > stall > speed clean of 39 knots. Don't know if a KR can be made to stall > this > slowly without some help. > > Scott Weeks > Hermitage, TN ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 08:49:01 -0500 To: krnet From: jwells1@impop.bellatlantic.net Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <3A28FDCC.FB592843@mailbox.bellatlantic.net> Jeffrey, I can't speak for anyone else,but my kr2 stalls at 35 mph clean,my wingspan has been lengthened by 2 feet. Jerry Wells Jeffrey S Weeks wrote: > Another newbie here. From recent discussions at a local USUA club and > EAA ultralight chapter, I don't think the KR-2 will fit the stall speed > requirement that has been kicked around. The new rule will most likely > apply to aircraft 254 pounds to 1232 pounds gross with a maximum stall > speed clean of 39 knots. Don't know if a KR can be made to stall this > slowly without some help. > > Scott Weeks > Hermitage, TN ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 10:09:48 -0400 To: jwells1@bellatlantic.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Gaston Landry" Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: Ooh!! that would put the KR-2 within the realm of Canadian ultralight regs! under 1200lbs T.O. weight, stall speed below 45mph in landing config., and the minimum useful load better than [350 + half of the engine horsepower rating] guess what my second plane will be? :oP (I still have yet to start the first, which will be the Hummelbird) Gaston >From: jwells1@impop.bellatlantic.net >Reply-To: jwells1@bellatlantic.net >To: krnet >Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! >Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 08:49:01 -0500 > >Jeffrey, I can't speak for anyone else,but my kr2 stalls at 35 mph clean,my >wingspan has been lengthened by 2 feet. > Jerry Wells > >Jeffrey S Weeks wrote: > > > Another newbie here. From recent discussions at a local USUA club and > > EAA ultralight chapter, I don't think the KR-2 will fit the stall speed > > requirement that has been kicked around. The new rule will most likely > > apply to aircraft 254 pounds to 1232 pounds gross with a maximum stall > > speed clean of 39 knots. Don't know if a KR can be made to stall this > > slowly without some help. > > > > Scott Weeks > > Hermitage, TN > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 10:05:54 -0500 To: Jeffrey S Weeks From: Tom Crawford CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <3A290FD2.5E25@ufl.edu> Jeffrey S Weeks wrote: > > I don't think the KR-2 will fit the stall speed > requirement that has been kicked around. The new rule will most likely > apply to aircraft 254 pounds to 1232 pounds gross with a maximum stall > speed clean of 39 knots. Don't know if a KR can be made to stall this > slowly without some help. > > Scott Weeks > Hermitage, TN Scott, My KR stalls at 38 MPH indicated. It is a standard KR2 tri-gear with Diehl wings. Empty weight is 650#. -- Tom Crawford Gainesville, FL N262TC Mailto:toys@ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 11:30:04 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Eddie6870@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <97.de3e5ad.275a7d8c@aol.com> Hi all, I just had to chime in on this one. I was turned down on my medical due to my asthma condition. This after I had already been taking lessons for a while. Ive continued my lessons in the hope that the new sport pilot cert. actually happens but if it doesn't I guess Ill just sell off everything I own and fly anyway. I know that sounds drastic but hey what can they do to you if you've got nothing to take. Im building my own airplane and Ill be damned if some beuracrat- sp? is going to tell me whether or not I can fly it . I know that most of you guys out there dont have this option since its a little hard to sell the house not to mention the wife and kids but it might be an option for some. Fly safe and keep the blue side up. E.C ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 11:11:07 -0700 To: , From: "BillStarrs" Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <003201c05c8b$3eb913a0$370b2aa2@starrs> I think the FAA would be surprised if they knew how many pilots are already using this option (or would they) like prohibition, you make the rules too tight and people rebel.If you spend your life worrying about being sued your are going to miss that gold ring. Bill Starrs ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 9:30 AM Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! > Hi all, I just had to chime in on this one. I was turned down on my medical > due to my asthma condition. This after I had already been taking lessons for > a while. Ive continued my lessons in the hope that the new sport pilot cert. > actually happens but if it doesn't I guess Ill just sell off everything I own > and fly anyway. I know that sounds drastic but hey what can they do to you > if you've got nothing to take. Im building my own airplane and Ill be damned > if some beuracrat- sp? is going to tell me whether or not I can fly it . I > know that most of you guys out there dont have this option since its a little > hard to sell the house not to mention the wife and kids but it might be an > option for some. Fly safe and keep the blue side up. > E.C > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 12:40:11 -0600 To: , "Micheal Fox" From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! Message-ID: <004e01c05c8f$4edf2720$6ae579a5@computer> I had a mild stroke in 1990 and surgery to open a 95 percent blocked carotid artery. My Dr. and I compiled all records including a stress test and sent them to Ok City. They reinstated my 3rd class medical in 1993. All they require now is periodic blood presure checks and a EKG every 2 or 3 years and an echo sound on my carotids about ever 5 years. My personal physician now is also my ME and takes care of all this for me. So far my Dr. has incorporated all this my semi-annual check ups and Insurance pays for it. I guess it depemds on how severe your strokes were and if they left any permanent damage. If your strokes were not too severe you may be able to get your medical. Was this your personal Dr. or an ME? Only an ME can tell you for sure your chances of getting an OK from FAA. Ed Blocher kr-n899eb@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Micheal Fox To: Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: KR> Licensing Help Needed!!! > To All KR Net, > This is an SOS from a newbe who has been planning to get his pilots > license & build a plane. My Doctor just told me that because I have a > medical history of having 2 strokes in 1997 I will not get my pilots > license. Is this true??? If it is, is there a limited or restricted license > or a license without a medical > requirement?? Help!!! foxyrn@quixnet.net or foxyrn@usa.net Micheal J. > Fox RN,BSN > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:25:57 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Phil Visconti Subject: LICENSE HELP Message-ID: <3A282575.A40DFECC@gis.net> --------------CA30A90E9D5E852EA1C99F05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Recreation License" is not the same as proposed "Sport License". Also I posted to krnet [Fwd: FAA REFUSAL ?] on Friday, 10 Nov 2000 an E-mail that I had received from EAA rep. It does state proposal for Federal Register Jan 2001. Phil --------------CA30A90E9D5E852EA1C99F05-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:07:01 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Subject: Duats & NexRad Message-ID: Since it's Fun Friday I'll throw this out. I have been following the development of the satellite uplink weather system for some time. A yoke mount unit is now available or the software can be purchased for loading on your laptop. As of now EchoFlight is the biggest player in the market. What this does is allow GA pilots to now link with the NexRad system to receive in cockpit weather. You will no longer need radar to see what is ahead of you. They say NexRad should not be used for "strategic weather avoidance" but being able to see the stuff develop sure is nice. You are able to see weather around you or anywhere you want to choose. What you see is about 2 minutes old. You can go to their website, Echoflight.com, and download a demo. EchoFlight incorporates not only the weather, but moving map GPS with all airport, airway, airspace with several different screen overlays. It really is pretty cool technology. With that said, it is the general consensus that the price, which is cheap insurance (couple thousand), will go down as others enter the market. You can see current NexRad by going to Duats.com (you will have to register) Main page and selecting DynCorp Weather. Go down to your area under NexRad and check it out. Duats only updates this page 2 minutes past the hour and on the half hour +2. He who dies with the most toys wins:-) Winter weather flying hint..........watch that ice if you are "hole" searching. I picked up ice on an instrument approach yesterday at 2000 AGL. It was still on the Bonanza when I pushed it back into the hangar. 34F OAT in the clouds. Dana Overall 2000 KR Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 09:06:45 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: james mcdonaugh Subject: altternator Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20001202090645.007a7b70@127.0.0.1> good morning read marks post about alt.and i am buying two of the units for my kr1 and teenietwo.thanks mark just what i needed. jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 11:57:05 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: medicals Message-ID: <004901c05c80$e72b0760$dc905bd1@kirkland> ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C05C56.FD7C52A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In Canada and I believe also in the US; when you self certify for a = medical you are really certifying that you meet a certain medical = standard. Heart attacks and strokes would preclude you doing that. You = can still get a licence after an MI but I don't know about strokes. = After a heart attack you need to wait 6 months and you will likely = require a stress test which after five years becomes mandatory every = year. Been there done that. Correct me if I'm in error. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C05C56.FD7C52A0-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************