From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 25 May 2001 14:17:03 -0000 Issue 229 Date: Friday, May 25, 2001 7:17 AM krnet Digest 25 May 2001 14:17:03 -0000 Issue 229 Topics (messages 5480 through 5508): Re: Handheld Radio Output 5480 by: Ross R. Youngblood Re: Static electricity 5481 by: Ross R. Youngblood New virus 5482 by: Eduardo Iglesias 5483 by: Peter Nauta BATTERY 5484 by: pjvisc.netzero.net Re: N6399U first taxi test 5485 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout 5488 by: Ross R. Youngblood 5489 by: gleone hinge bolts 5486 by: bobby whisenant Re: New virus HOAX 5487 by: Ross R. Youngblood alternative airfoils 5490 by: Oscar Zuniga 5498 by: Ross R. Youngblood Re: PHX TRACON/Tower Visit] 5491 by: Carson Cassidy Re: stupid question] 5492 by: Carson Cassidy Attachments 5493 by: Robert Stone polyfuse 5494 by: shannon spurgeon Carb mod 5495 by: Al Friesen 5500 by: Ross R. Youngblood kr bolts 5496 by: bobby whisenant 50ohm vs 75 ohm 5497 by: Ross R. Youngblood 5501 by: saunders 5502 by: cartera.cuug.ab.ca Radio Call Sign ID 5499 by: Ross R. Youngblood Cowling Photos 5503 by: Ross R. Youngblood Re-ask re H.S. 5504 by: Tim Brown KR2 for sale 5505 by: Mike Mueller kr2s bolts 5506 by: bobby whisenant Re: KR2s project for sale 5507 by: Greg S Martin N3780B 5508 by: Steven Buckley Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:01:52 -0700 To: Laheze@aol.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Subject: Re: KR> Handheld Radio Output Message-ID: <3B0BC2D0.DFEBE85B@home.com> Scratchy connections! This could be a test you do on the ground.... try transmitting before engine start, and after engine start to Unicom and see if somone on the ground can tell the difference. Perhaps there is a loose shield connection. (Or it could be power supply noise from the alternator or ignition). Laheze@aol.com wrote: > Hi all, > > I used a Icom handheld radio in my Bonanza on the way to Sun n Fun 3 years > ago. It was hooked up to my external antenna. There were 7 planes of our > group that went together. Everyone said my radio transmissions were clear as > a bell but the output was low or rather they could hear me as though I were a > long way away. I could hear everyone of them very clearly as well as people > in other states as we traveled along. I have never had aircraft radio > reception that good, ever! One of them thought I was full of it and finally > was ready to junk his King Digitals ( so he said ). I am not an avionics > person at all but you may need to add one of the power boosters that some > sell that bumps up handheld output. If you are using an Icom and you are > getting a scratchy out put then it is probably the antenna or one of the > connections. > > Larry Howell laheze@aol.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:04:14 -0700 To: Gognij@aol.com From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Static electricity Message-ID: <3B0BC35E.9D1C9B00@home.com> Fiberglass (plastic) doesn't conduct electricity very well. My shop vac also creates a significant amount of static. I decided to just bond the pick-up area and fuel sending mounting plate and leave it at that. -- Ross Gognij@aol.com wrote: > Hello folks, > > I was running the vacuum around the outside of my gas tank cleaning > things up a little bit yesterday and I noticed that the hair on my arm was > standing up as I reached around the header tank. Has anybody experienced > this? I wonder if a static discharge is possible inside of the tank? > JimGogniat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:21:58 -0300 To: "KR-net" From: "Eduardo Iglesias" Subject: New virus Message-ID: <00c501c0e3ba$3b3ab7e0$b01c33c8@satellite> ------=_NextPart_000_05C7_01C0E315.FF9754E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear krnetters =20 =20 In Argentina a new virus exists whose name is sulfnbk.exe. It comes with = some mail and it hides in windows. =20 It is necessary to look for it with the file searcher and to delete it. = It is even necessary to empty the recycle binary because it will be = activated alone in June 1.When you try to erase it you=B4ll see a = message that says that some windows programs won't work. Don't pay = attention, delete it. =20 Look for it, it doesn't cost anything. Eduardo ------=_NextPart_000_05C7_01C0E315.FF9754E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:33:40 +0200 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists. Org" From: "Peter Nauta" Subject: RE: KR> New virus Message-ID: Hi Eduardo and others, Please don't start this: you are spreading a hoax (somebody's bad idea to spend our time and bandwidth)!!!! See http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/hoaxes/sulfnbk.html. If you really feel the urge to post to this list information other than oxydation, wood rot, osmosis, rust, electrolysis (which might be faintly applicable to KR's) FIRST CHECK YOUR ANTIVIRUS PROVIDER FIRST before telling us. What you are saying is that you are badly informed and badly protected, that's why you send this information to everybody. And if you still need to forward your finding, forward it to the antivirus company itself. They are far more effective in warning their subscribers. Also, most antivirus providers have a mailing list, to which you can subscribe. You don't even need to buy their product. They have never been too late: even in the case of Kournikova, which was released in the Netherlands, they warned us 4 hours before the company I'm contracting at were hit. Too bad it was after hours, but anyway... Any flames: I'll take them off line, thanks. Let's stick to KR stuff. The only reason I put this here is to bid everybody to get informed about viruses the right way, not by spamming on a list. For that is the very goal of these hoaxes, they tend to spread much better than real viruses, and take no programming whatsoever. Poor suckers, get a life.... Regards, Groeten, Peter Nauta p.nauta@wanadoo.nl (until june 2001) <<-- PLEASE DELETE pnauta@xs4all.nl ( <<-- NEW ADDRESS ) +31(0)6 51411018 Fax: +31(0)84 8663552 <- AREA CODE CHANGED! Fax and voicemail: +1(413)235-8017 http://www.fs2000.nl > -----Original Message----- > From: Eduardo Iglesias [mailto:emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar] > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:22 AM > To: KR-net > Subject: KR> New virus > > > Dear krnetters > > In Argentina a new virus exists whose name is sulfnbk.exe. It > comes with some mail and it hides in windows. > It is necessary to look for it with the file searcher and to > delete it. It is even necessary to empty the recycle binary > because it will be activated alone in June 1.When you try to > erase it youŽll see a message that says that some windows > programs won't work. Don't pay attention, delete it. > Look for it, it doesn't cost anything. > Eduardo > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:44:30 -0400 To: klw1953@juno.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: pjvisc@netzero.net Subject: BATTERY Message-ID: <3B0C131E.885B594F@netzero.net> --------------4E62875ECFCA0F3E0FCFC59F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken, I went to the library and checked out a book by Don Casey entitled "This Old Boat". I wanted to find out about "rolling and tipping" painting. This book has an excellent section on "Volts and AMPS" which thoroughly explains needs of batteries. i.e. capacity, charging, etc. Phil Visconti --------------4E62875ECFCA0F3E0FCFC59F-- NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:08:16 -0400 To: rossy65@home.com From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Cc: klw1953@juno.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> N6399U first taxi test Message-ID: <20010523.190817.-314729.0.klw1953@juno.com> The antenna came from Aircraft Spruce: P/N VHF 5T It still looks like the right one---------K On Wed, 23 May 2001 06:55:53 -0700 "Ross R. Youngblood" writes: > Ken, > The ribbon antenna.... can you give us the P/N, we could look at > the > picture > in the Wicks catalog. > The first thing that came to mind is that it might be designed > for a > metal > aircraft, and you might need a ground plane. I used a coffee can > and > cut out a circular piece of aluminum sheet for my ELT and > Transponder > antenna's to use as a ground plane. I think this is a bit > undersize from > things > I read, but it is better than nothing. > I built my antenna using the RST avionics kit. The kit comes > with > ferrite > beads to make a balun, (impedence matching), and you measure two > lengths > of copper tape to a specific length and position them in a "V" with > a > specific > angle. This works really well for recieve, but I haven't tested the > transmit > yet. > > Do you have shielded cable on the runs from your microphone jacks > to the > input of the radio? This could be picking up noise. > You also might want to put a 20uF capacitor across the +14V > supply input > to the radio, perhaps you are sending them ignition noise when you > transmit. > > -- Ross > Kenneth L Wiltrout wrote: > > > Well here's what I 've got: The radio is a used TKM-MX11 that I > purchased > > from an avionics shop at the Reading Airport. It was checked out > and > > working fine at that time. I do have approx 14 volts when the > engine is > > running, but when the engine is shut off it really seems to pull > the > > battery down in a hurry when I push the PTT for any length of > time. The > > battery is nothing special, just a motorcycle battery that will > start the > > large displacement cycles. It has no trouble turning over the > Revmaster > > at all. The head sets are Flight Com 4Dx's, I switched them around > and > > they both sound the same on my new Icom hand held. The antenna is > of the > > ribbon variety that I bought from Wicks (I think), any how it was > over > > $100. OK you guys are next.Thanks------------------Kenny > > > > On Mon, 21 May 2001 20:54:13 -0700 "Ross R. Youngblood" > > writes: > > > Kenny, > > > What kind of radio and antenna setup are you using? This > would > > > help > > > us > > > give more useless advice. > > > > > > If you have a voltage indicator, are you getting at least 12V > out? > > > Perhaps you > > > are not getting enough power to the radio. The Mooney I rent > from > > > the > > > flying club > > > had a short in the ignition switch, this gave a low voltage > > > indication, > > > and the Phoenix > > > Approach Control folks would not respond to our radio calls > while > > > this > > > situation existed, > > > but would once we cleared the low voltage indication. > > > > > > Also, since I looked up your airport and found it was in PA, I > guess > > > you > > > are not in > > > the Bermuda triangle, perhaps you have a scratchy voice? > > > > > > > > > CS wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Kenny, > > > > > > > > >my radio, > > > > > the controller said it sounded weak and scratchy. > > > > > Any body know what> would cause that? > > > > > > > > In order of least expense/hassle to most > > > > expense/hassle, I would check: > > > > > > > > 1. Bad mike. Check with known good mike. > > > > 2. Bad antenna. Check with temporary external > > > > antenna, or else on known good antenna. > > > > 3. Bad radio. Check with known good antenna setup. > > > > 4. Bad wiring. Major hassle, but that's PROBABLY it. > > > > Try running temporary wire between radio and antenna. > > > > 5. You're in the Bermuda Triangle. Change location. > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > > > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:52:46 -0700 To: Kenneth L Wiltrout From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> N6399U first taxi test Message-ID: <3B0C696E.1C550E78@home.com> Ken, Thanks for the P/N, it says it's designed for use without a ground plane, so far great. What type of coax did you use? I have to look this up but there is commonly available 50 ohm and 75 ohm. If you are picking up ATC without too much static my bet is that the attenna is working OK, one of the tips in the RST antenna manual is that an antenna that recieves well will generally transmit well too. Where physically did you place the antenna? Horizontal/Vertical etc.. Also, how far away is the closest piece of metal to the antenna. (Bracket control cable etc... this may be a factor). Anyway the antenna looks cool from the picture. -- Ross Kenneth L Wiltrout wrote: > The antenna came from Aircraft Spruce: P/N VHF 5T It still looks like the > right one---------K > > On Wed, 23 May 2001 06:55:53 -0700 "Ross R. Youngblood" > writes: > > Ken, > > The ribbon antenna.... can you give us the P/N, we could look at > > the > > picture > > in the Wicks catalog. > > The first thing that came to mind is that it might be designed > > for a > > metal > > aircraft, and you might need a ground plane. I used a coffee can > > and > > cut out a circular piece of aluminum sheet for my ELT and > > Transponder > > antenna's to use as a ground plane. I think this is a bit > > undersize from > > things > > I read, but it is better than nothing. > > I built my antenna using the RST avionics kit. The kit comes > > with > > ferrite > > beads to make a balun, (impedence matching), and you measure two > > lengths > > of copper tape to a specific length and position them in a "V" with > > a > > specific > > angle. This works really well for recieve, but I haven't tested the > > transmit > > yet. > > > > Do you have shielded cable on the runs from your microphone jacks > > to the > > input of the radio? This could be picking up noise. > > You also might want to put a 20uF capacitor across the +14V > > supply input > > to the radio, perhaps you are sending them ignition noise when you > > transmit. > > > > -- Ross > > Kenneth L Wiltrout wrote: > > > > > Well here's what I 've got: The radio is a used TKM-MX11 that I > > purchased > > > from an avionics shop at the Reading Airport. It was checked out > > and > > > working fine at that time. I do have approx 14 volts when the > > engine is > > > running, but when the engine is shut off it really seems to pull > > the > > > battery down in a hurry when I push the PTT for any length of > > time. The > > > battery is nothing special, just a motorcycle battery that will > > start the > > > large displacement cycles. It has no trouble turning over the > > Revmaster > > > at all. The head sets are Flight Com 4Dx's, I switched them around > > and > > > they both sound the same on my new Icom hand held. The antenna is > > of the > > > ribbon variety that I bought from Wicks (I think), any how it was > > over > > > $100. OK you guys are next.Thanks------------------Kenny > > > > > > On Mon, 21 May 2001 20:54:13 -0700 "Ross R. Youngblood" > > > writes: > > > > Kenny, > > > > What kind of radio and antenna setup are you using? This > > would > > > > help > > > > us > > > > give more useless advice. > > > > > > > > If you have a voltage indicator, are you getting at least 12V > > out? > > > > Perhaps you > > > > are not getting enough power to the radio. The Mooney I rent > > from > > > > the > > > > flying club > > > > had a short in the ignition switch, this gave a low voltage > > > > indication, > > > > and the Phoenix > > > > Approach Control folks would not respond to our radio calls > > while > > > > this > > > > situation existed, > > > > but would once we cleared the low voltage indication. > > > > > > > > Also, since I looked up your airport and found it was in PA, I > > guess > > > > you > > > > are not in > > > > the Bermuda triangle, perhaps you have a scratchy voice? > > > > > > > > > > > > CS wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Kenny, > > > > > > > > > > >my radio, > > > > > > the controller said it sounded weak and scratchy. > > > > > > Any body know what> would cause that? > > > > > > > > > > In order of least expense/hassle to most > > > > > expense/hassle, I would check: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Bad mike. Check with known good mike. > > > > > 2. Bad antenna. Check with temporary external > > > > > antenna, or else on known good antenna. > > > > > 3. Bad radio. Check with known good antenna setup. > > > > > 4. Bad wiring. Major hassle, but that's PROBABLY it. > > > > > Try running temporary wire between radio and antenna. > > > > > 5. You're in the Bermuda Triangle. Change location. > > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > > > > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:03:48 -0600 To: rossy65@home.com From: gleone CC: Kenneth L Wiltrout , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> N6399U first taxi test Message-ID: <3B0C6C04.F3351F27@tritel.net> Use 50 ohm coax. "Ross R. Youngblood" wrote: > Ken, > Thanks for the P/N, it says it's designed for use without a ground plane, > so > far great. > What type of coax did you use? I have to look this up but there is > commonly > available 50 ohm and 75 ohm. If you are picking up ATC without too much > static > my bet is that the attenna is working OK, one of the tips in the RST antenna > manual > is that an antenna that recieves well will generally transmit well too. > Where physically did you place the antenna? > Horizontal/Vertical etc.. > Also, how far away is the closest piece of metal to the antenna. (Bracket > control cable > etc... this may be a factor). > > Anyway the antenna looks cool from the picture. > > -- Ross > > Kenneth L Wiltrout wrote: > > > The antenna came from Aircraft Spruce: P/N VHF 5T It still looks like the > > right one---------K > > > > On Wed, 23 May 2001 06:55:53 -0700 "Ross R. Youngblood" > > writes: > > > Ken, > > > The ribbon antenna.... can you give us the P/N, we could look at > > > the > > > picture > > > in the Wicks catalog. > > > The first thing that came to mind is that it might be designed > > > for a > > > metal > > > aircraft, and you might need a ground plane. I used a coffee can > > > and > > > cut out a circular piece of aluminum sheet for my ELT and > > > Transponder > > > antenna's to use as a ground plane. I think this is a bit > > > undersize from > > > things > > > I read, but it is better than nothing. > > > I built my antenna using the RST avionics kit. The kit comes > > > with > > > ferrite > > > beads to make a balun, (impedence matching), and you measure two > > > lengths > > > of copper tape to a specific length and position them in a "V" with > > > a > > > specific > > > angle. This works really well for recieve, but I haven't tested the > > > transmit > > > yet. > > > > > > Do you have shielded cable on the runs from your microphone jacks > > > to the > > > input of the radio? This could be picking up noise. > > > You also might want to put a 20uF capacitor across the +14V > > > supply input > > > to the radio, perhaps you are sending them ignition noise when you > > > transmit. > > > > > > -- Ross > > > Kenneth L Wiltrout wrote: > > > > > > > Well here's what I 've got: The radio is a used TKM-MX11 that I > > > purchased > > > > from an avionics shop at the Reading Airport. It was checked out > > > and > > > > working fine at that time. I do have approx 14 volts when the > > > engine is > > > > running, but when the engine is shut off it really seems to pull > > > the > > > > battery down in a hurry when I push the PTT for any length of > > > time. The > > > > battery is nothing special, just a motorcycle battery that will > > > start the > > > > large displacement cycles. It has no trouble turning over the > > > Revmaster > > > > at all. The head sets are Flight Com 4Dx's, I switched them around > > > and > > > > they both sound the same on my new Icom hand held. The antenna is > > > of the > > > > ribbon variety that I bought from Wicks (I think), any how it was > > > over > > > > $100. OK you guys are next.Thanks------------------Kenny > > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 May 2001 20:54:13 -0700 "Ross R. Youngblood" > > > > writes: > > > > > Kenny, > > > > > What kind of radio and antenna setup are you using? This > > > would > > > > > help > > > > > us > > > > > give more useless advice. > > > > > > > > > > If you have a voltage indicator, are you getting at least 12V > > > out? > > > > > Perhaps you > > > > > are not getting enough power to the radio. The Mooney I rent > > > from > > > > > the > > > > > flying club > > > > > had a short in the ignition switch, this gave a low voltage > > > > > indication, > > > > > and the Phoenix > > > > > Approach Control folks would not respond to our radio calls > > > while > > > > > this > > > > > situation existed, > > > > > but would once we cleared the low voltage indication. > > > > > > > > > > Also, since I looked up your airport and found it was in PA, I > > > guess > > > > > you > > > > > are not in > > > > > the Bermuda triangle, perhaps you have a scratchy voice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CS wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kenny, > > > > > > > > > > > > >my radio, > > > > > > > the controller said it sounded weak and scratchy. > > > > > > > Any body know what> would cause that? > > > > > > > > > > > > In order of least expense/hassle to most > > > > > > expense/hassle, I would check: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Bad mike. Check with known good mike. > > > > > > 2. Bad antenna. Check with temporary external > > > > > > antenna, or else on known good antenna. > > > > > > 3. Bad radio. Check with known good antenna setup. > > > > > > 4. Bad wiring. Major hassle, but that's PROBABLY it. > > > > > > Try running temporary wire between radio and antenna. > > > > > > 5. You're in the Bermuda Triangle. Change location. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > > > > > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:31:15 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: bobby whisenant Subject: hinge bolts Message-ID: <10200084.990667875722.JavaMail.imail@prickles> Has anyone used #8 hardend bolts for hinges and pully brackets.Thanks for your time. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:45:11 -0700 To: Eduardo Iglesias From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: KR-net Subject: Re: KR> New virus HOAX Message-ID: <3B0C67A7.6EBCD165@home.com> http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html Please be careful people... the virus listed below can be a HOAX! Check the link above for more inforamtion. -- Ross Eduardo Iglesias wrote: > Dear krnetters > > In Argentina a new virus exists whose name is sulfnbk.exe. It comes with some mail and it hides in windows. > It is necessary to look for it with the file searcher and to delete it. It is even necessary to empty the recycle binary because it will be activated alone in June 1.When you try to erase it youŽll see a message that says that some windows programs won't work. Don't pay attention, delete it. > Look for it, it doesn't cost anything. > Eduardo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 02:56:48 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: alternative airfoils Message-ID: Hello, netters; Let's clear the air first: this post is _not_ about the AS50xx-series airfoils. I had about 20 minutes' free time yesterday, so I stuck the video "The KR Experience" (promo from Rand-Robinson) in the VCR and laid back for some couch potato time. I don't remember where I got this video from (Paul? Ross?), but it dates back to before the KR-2S, so it's from an earlier era. Anyway, there is quite a bit of air-to-air work with both KR-1 and KR-2, one of which is piloted by Rich Seifert who is/was on this list. But back to the subject of this post. One of the featured airplanes in the video is the KR-100, a single-place KR-1 variant with the 0-200 up front. This airplane is never shown in the air in the video, but was obviously complete and flying at the time. This one has fixed conventional "flat bent metal bar" type gear and a P-51 style canopy. The interesting part is, this airplane was to be the prototype for a KR-100 addition to the Rand-Robinson line of offerings. But the person doing the narration mentions that the airfoil is not the RAF-48; apparently, aft of the main spar it remains the RAF, but forward of the main spar it was made thinner "for lower drag and higher cruise speeds". No other information was given, except for very clear disclaimers about making modifications or departures from the plans, etc. etc.- but the stated cruise speed of the prototype was 200 MPH, with a Vne of 240. It also had 'horns' on the elevators, as well as mass static balance, and a larger and partially-balanced rudder. The commentary states that the balanced elevator led to loss of stick force feel for the pilot, so an anti-servo tab was added to give back some feel. One of the featured KR-2 planes in the video is also stated to have used an airfoil different from the RAF-48. Just a point of interest here, not to start flogging the dead horse again! Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:29:40 -0700 To: Oscar Zuniga From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> alternative airfoils Message-ID: <3B0D9964.FE7BB52F@home.com> Oscar, I think I dropped that video by, if it is the one from Rand. Maybe someday I will drop by to pick it up. But I will have to fly in my KR as a condition. -- Ross Oscar Zuniga wrote: > Hello, netters; > > Let's clear the air first: this post is _not_ about the AS50xx-series > airfoils. > > I had about 20 minutes' free time yesterday, so I stuck the video "The KR > Experience" (promo from Rand-Robinson) in the VCR and laid back for some > couch potato time. I don't remember where I got this video from (Paul? > Ross?), but it dates back to before the KR-2S, so it's from an earlier era. > Anyway, there is quite a bit of air-to-air work with both KR-1 and KR-2, one > of which is piloted by Rich Seifert who is/was on this list. > > But back to the subject of this post. One of the featured airplanes in the > video is the KR-100, a single-place KR-1 variant with the 0-200 up front. > This airplane is never shown in the air in the video, but was obviously > complete and flying at the time. This one has fixed conventional "flat bent > metal bar" type gear and a P-51 style canopy. The interesting part is, this > airplane was to be the prototype for a KR-100 addition to the Rand-Robinson > line of offerings. But the person doing the narration mentions that the > airfoil is not the RAF-48; apparently, aft of the main spar it remains the > RAF, but forward of the main spar it was made thinner "for lower drag and > higher cruise speeds". No other information was given, except for very > clear disclaimers about making modifications or departures from the plans, > etc. etc.- but the stated cruise speed of the prototype was 200 MPH, with a > Vne of 240. It also had 'horns' on the elevators, as well as mass static > balance, and a larger and partially-balanced rudder. The commentary states > that the balanced elevator led to loss of stick force feel for the pilot, so > an anti-servo tab was added to give back some feel. > > One of the featured KR-2 planes in the video is also stated to have used an > airfoil different from the RAF-48. Just a point of interest here, not to > start flogging the dead horse again! > > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, Oregon > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:49:11 -0600 To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" , "corvaircraft@usm.edu" From: Carson Cassidy Subject: [Fwd: KR> PHX TRACON/Tower Visit] Message-ID: <3B0D1157.F83996AE@home.com> --------------28A38E9DFFE85853D72AC62F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------28A38E9DFFE85853D72AC62F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <3B0D1110.2AAF584F@home.com> Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:48:00 -0600 From: Carson Cassidy Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-AtHome0402 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: POND CARTER Subject: Re: KR> PHX TRACON/Tower Visit References: <3B04C1C1.2B885E20@home.com> <3B05D378.484BEDA8@home.com> <3B0B6815.F35675E3@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pond It's normally always a good idea to give your type of aircraft with initial call. A lot of controllers don't have a clue about different types of homebuilts so use the term "homebuilt" rather than Taylor. Other than that they will treat your like anyone else (good or bad depending on their mood). I'm just kidding, hopefully it's always good. Stop and say hello if you get out west. Carson POND CARTER wrote: > > HI Carson > Quick question. > what do controls what me to say when I call in when in bound for landing > with a home built. > I will be flying a Taylor Mono Plane. Do I need to say ameture built? > Thanks Darren in Ontario > I hope to fly west this summer is my bird will fly. --------------28A38E9DFFE85853D72AC62F-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:49:33 -0600 To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: Carson Cassidy Subject: [Fwd: KR> stupid question] Message-ID: <3B0D116D.9FE25D83@home.com> --------------1663C36FD217FDDC06D6756E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------1663C36FD217FDDC06D6756E Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <3B0D0FB9.4452618A@home.com> Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:42:17 -0600 From: Carson Cassidy Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-AtHome0402 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Brown Subject: Re: KR> stupid question References: <20010523030640.1496.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim I know that I just put in one. I don't think you would even need two. It would be difficult to engineer to adjust them both equally. Carson Cassidy Calgary, Alberta Tim Brown wrote: > > Is there one (just on one side of the elevator > center line) or are there two trim tabs (one on > each side of the elevator center line)? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org --------------1663C36FD217FDDC06D6756E-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:28:57 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Attachments Message-ID: <001a01c0e466$40ac3a80$ebd8fea9@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0E43C.56FBFF20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable KRNet members: When I first got on the KRNet I think I remember reading = in the rules "No attachments were to be included in messages posted to = the KRNet. Has that rule changed or what. =20 Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx. rlspjs@dashlink.com ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0E43C.56FBFF20-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:41:46 -0500 (CDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: shanspur@webtv.net (shannon spurgeon) Subject: polyfuse Message-ID: <6695-3B0D55EA-245@storefull-628.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Ha! Found it! Thanks, Larry for pointing my search in the right direction: Kitplanes, March 2001, Aero 'Lectrics by Jim Weir of RST. If you haven't already invested three gazillion bucks in aircraft circuit breakers, check out the Raychem (www.raychem.com) Polyswitch fuse. 65 cents to $1.25 each, for a self-resetting breaker device. Read Jim's article for details, or contact the manufacturer. Mouser and Digikey retail them. You're welcome, Shannon I'll try this again, got a message of delivery failure: "544 too many hops" whatever that means. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:57:23 -0700 To: From: "Al Friesen" Subject: Carb mod Message-ID: <004501c0e483$ef04ece0$91cb6cce@s8z8i0> ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0E448.B1AF2E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters, A while ago someone mentioned a deflector installed after the revflo = carb to force the fuel to the center of the intake just before it = splits. I was getting 500 degrees front right cylinder. I made a = deflector from some leftover stainless firewall. It is about 7/8" wide x = 2" long with 5 fingers cut in the end just like your fingers (shorter at = the sides with a long one in the center) curved and cupped a bit to = force the fuel inward. It made all the difference as now the temps were = all even 450 static and 2 slow runs up the runway. I think the right = cylinders are not running as lean now. Some more runs will be needed to = see if this does the job. Al ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0E448.B1AF2E40-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:43:11 -0700 To: Al Friesen From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Carb mod Message-ID: <3B0D9C8F.D00F7879@home.com> Al, Is this just a plate that you bolt between the carb and the intake? It's hard to visualize with my limited brainpower. -- Ross Al Friesen wrote: > Netters, > A while ago someone mentioned a deflector installed after the revflo carb to force the fuel to the center of the intake just before it splits. I was getting 500 degrees front right cylinder. I made a deflector from some leftover stainless firewall. It is about 7/8" wide x 2" long with 5 fingers cut in the end just like your fingers (shorter at the sides with a long one in the center) curved and cupped a bit to force the fuel inward. It made all the difference as now the temps were all even 450 static and 2 slow runs up the runway. I think the right cylinders are not running as lean now. Some more runs will be needed to see if this does the job. Al ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:15:57 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: bobby whisenant Subject: kr bolts Message-ID: <8298820.990738957856.JavaMail.imail@prickles> Can grade #8 bolts be used on hinges and brackets and is there anyone that has used them. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:26:22 -0700 To: gleone From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: Kenneth L Wiltrout , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: 50ohm vs 75 ohm Message-ID: <3B0D989E.F8CE5967@home.com> I must have been tired... what I wanted to say is that 75 ohm COAX is commonly available at Radio Shack, and looks like 50 ohm COAX, but you need to be sure. What I can't recall is if it is RG58 or RGXX for the 50 ohm stuff. The stuff I have around is exotic 50 ohm cable which we use to wire up electronic test fixtures, and it isn't labeled. -- Ross gleone wrote: > Use 50 ohm coax. > > "Ross R. Youngblood" wrote: > > > Ken, > > Thanks for the P/N, it says it's designed for use without a ground plane, > > so > > far great. > > What type of coax did you use? I have to look this up but there is > > commonly > > available 50 ohm and 75 ohm. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 19:59:11 -0400 To: , "gleone" From: "saunders" Cc: "Kenneth L Wiltrout" , Subject: Re: KR> 50ohm vs 75 ohm Message-ID: <000901c0e4ad$889adee0$a660c4cf@mike> RG58/u is 50 ohm, RG59 and RG6 is the 75 ohm CATV coax, sold in Radio Shack. > I must have been tired... > what I wanted to say is that 75 ohm COAX is commonly available at > Radio Shack, and looks like 50 ohm COAX, but you need to be > sure. What I can't recall is if it is RG58 or RGXX for the 50 ohm stuff. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:03:52 -0600 To: rossy65@home.com From: cartera@cuug.ab.ca CC: gleone , Kenneth L Wiltrout , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> 50ohm vs 75 ohm Message-ID: <3B0DA168.1FEE8FA6@cuug.ab.ca> Hello Gang, Yes, RG58U, RG58B are 50 ohm impedance and RG59U is 72 ohm, not good for aircraft radio matching. Use a SWR meter on transmitting, if it's good on transmitting usually good on receiving. SWR should be 1:1. If you have RG58 tx line you already have an antenna, very easy to make for frequency you want formulae for 1/2 wave is 468/freq in mhz. Good Luck! Happy Flying and Building! "Ross R. Youngblood" wrote: > > I must have been tired... > what I wanted to say is that 75 ohm COAX is commonly available at > Radio Shack, and looks like 50 ohm COAX, but you need to be > sure. What I can't recall is if it is RG58 or RGXX for the 50 ohm stuff. > > The stuff I have around is exotic 50 ohm cable which we use to wire > up electronic test fixtures, and it isn't labeled. > > -- Ross > > gleone wrote: > > > Use 50 ohm coax. > > > > "Ross R. Youngblood" wrote: > > > > > Ken, > > > Thanks for the P/N, it says it's designed for use without a ground plane, > > > so > > > far great. > > > What type of coax did you use? I have to look this up but there is > > > commonly > > > available 50 ohm and 75 ohm. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:40:55 -0700 To: Carson Cassidy From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: "krnet@mailinglists.org" , "corvaircraft@usm.edu" Subject: Radio Call Sign ID Message-ID: <3B0D9C07.A5504A07@home.com> The proper identification is not "homebult" but "Experimental" when you are making your radio calls. For me (N541RY) it will be "Phoenix Approach Experimental 541 Romeo Yankee, Request" If they ask what "type" of aircraft, I think they are primarily interested in airspeed for spacing reasons. If you have a Glasair, or Lancair, it might be popular enough so they know you are fast. The FAA actually has a designation for various speed ranges of homebuilts. I looked this up on DUATS once. HXA = Unkown Homebult/Experimental Speed < 100kts HXB = Unkown Homebult/Experimental Speed 100-200kts HXC = Unkown Homebult/Experimental Speed > 200kts This is what you would put in the "TYPE" field of a VFR or IFR flight plan, so when they ask for type, I would specify the HX[ABC] value and give them your rough cruise speed, just in case they haven't tried entering HXABC. I would guess that if they enter HXA/B/C into the ARTCC system it will take it, but I don't know for sure. They reorderd these numbers... For example a Piper Warrior used to be a PA28, but now it is a P28A. I was flying back from Sedona last month, and a flying club member was in the Piper Pathfinder... this is a Piper Cherokee with tip tanks and 235Hp, so it is a Cherokee on steriods... the pilot didn't know what the "designation" was, it turns out it is a P28B. You can look this stuff up on the DUAT's website, or the AOPA flight planning website, just pretend you are going to file a flight plan and click on the "TYPE" link above the aircraft type box on the form. -- Ross -- Ross Carson Cassidy wrote:Pond > > It's normally always a good idea to give your type of aircraft with > initial call. A lot of controllers don't have a clue about different > types of homebuilts so use the term "homebuilt" rather than Taylor. > Other than that they will treat your like anyone else (good or bad > depending on their mood). I'm just kidding, hopefully it's always > good. Stop and say hello if you get out west. > > Carson > > POND CARTER wrote: > > > > HI Carson > > Quick question. > > what do controls what me to say when I call in when in bound for landing > > with a home built. > > I will be flying a Taylor Mono Plane. Do I need to say ameture built? > > Thanks Darren in Ontario > > I hope to fly west this summer is my bird will fly. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:45:49 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Subject: Cowling Photos Message-ID: <3B0DAB3D.6FCEC30E@home.com> I had promised some Cowling photos for Paolo, so I uploaded them to my website. http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/Cowling.html You can compare the front of the new (? improved?) cowling with the older version at http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/N541RY.htm All of this work was prompted by the installation of the LONG-EZE carb heat box which you can see at http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/Engine.html I've got a lot more sanding ahead, and one of the cam-loc fasteners needs to be relocated a bit... but progress is being made. - Ross ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 19:45:04 -0700 (PDT) To: Group KR NET From: Tim Brown Subject: Re-ask re H.S. Message-ID: <20010525024504.33779.qmail@web9503.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone who has used the Dr. Dean hinge set up have a reply to my earlier question about how to treat the foam once one cuts the slots and digs out an are for inserting the bolts? I am of the opinion to use micro, but should I glass it or even not care? If the question has been lost....I plan to cut slots in the leading edge to expose the rod end bearings, then dig out an area so that I can squeeze in the bolts, then insert them. How should I treat the raw foam is the question? Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 22:48:41 -0400 To: From: "Mike Mueller" Subject: KR2 for sale Message-ID: <00c201c0e4c5$35e898a0$af7e73d1@mike> ------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01C0E4A3.AE0F14C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have a KR2 project for sale. It is on its gear (Diehl). Control = surfaces are done and hooked up. Needs to be filled and sanded (some is = done). Canopy is on the airplane.VW motor mount. New Mag for a VW motor. = Workmanship is excellent. I acquired this project from a friend who had = to move out of state. Save yourself a year or two of work and a few = thousand dollars. Asking $3,500. Located in northern Ohio. Thank you, Mike Mueller mueller@eriecoast.com 440-967-2373 ------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01C0E4A3.AE0F14C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 06:20:33 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: bobby whisenant Subject: kr2s bolts Message-ID: <20079851.990796833694.JavaMail.imail@prickles> Has anyone used grade #8 bolts for hinges and brackets. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 06:20:38 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Greg S Martin Subject: Re: KR2s project for sale Message-ID: <20010525.062038.-396177.0.idrawtobuild@juno.com> I will be moving in 45 days. Where I'm going, I will not have the room for to the KR2s. But I will have room for my KR1 which could be back in the air in a month if I had the time to do so. The 2s has the boat and tail feathers on with the rudder glassed in as are the elevator and horiz stablizer. The boat is 2 7/8" wider and is of Doug fir clear, not SS spruce. I have the turtle back, canopy frame, insturment cover all in carbon fiber. Also have the smoke canopy. It is set for the retract but can go with the stiff sticks. Just make me an offer I can't refuse. Greg S. Martin, 20909 South Street, Suite #3 Tehachapi, CA 93561 Office, 661-823-9401, fax 823-9381 Home, 661-872-8781, fax 823-9381 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 7:15:5 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Steven Buckley" Subject: N3780B Message-ID: <412001552514155970@earthlink.net> ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Its Friday again--1980 KR2 N3780B is still up for sale. With only ONE serious response to 2/16/2001 email I guess that the economy is really tight. I'm still reacting to the fiBerglass...and the project is STILL up for grabs for $6000 or b/o. That includes all the KR newsletters, fiberglass, scales, resin, trailer, spare short block (1835 HAPI) etc. I'll even deliver with in reason. The plane is in Fremont, Ca close to San Jose. PLEASE!!!!! 510-656-3329. --- Steven Buckley --- buck00@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************