From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 4 Jun 2001 01:19:58 -0000 Issue 234 Date: Sunday, June 03, 2001 6:20 PM krnet Digest 4 Jun 2001 01:19:58 -0000 Issue 234 Topics (messages 5607 through 5626): Re: Best of Brazil 5607 by: George Allen Canopy Thoughts 5608 by: Randy Stein Re: the best of Brazil 5609 by: Richard Parker Re: Gascolator heating 5610 by: macwood 5616 by: Laheze.aol.com slighly off friday re: poly. thinner 5611 by: feral Re: Acrylic waterborn paint/Rolling and Tipping 5612 by: Frank Ross Securing piano hine pin 5613 by: AL Hawkins 5614 by: Donald Reid 5626 by: GARYKR2.cs.com VW engines 5615 by: Oscar Zuniga 5624 by: Ross R. Youngblood KR Gathering 5617 by: Patrick Driscoll 5618 by: Bruce Watkins 5620 by: CS 5622 by: Frank Ross KR-2s in Michigan? 5619 by: Didactics1.aol.com Pitot and static port locations? and performace results 5621 by: POND CARTER Re: VIRUS WARNING!!] 5623 by: Mark Jones Can't get a break ( N6399U ) 5625 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:06:00 -0400 To: From: "George Allen" Subject: Re: Best of Brazil Message-ID: <007501c0eaf7$cf61f8e0$63a6dcd8@george> ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0EAD6.4712F6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks really great Leo! What are your spec's.? engine, air speeds etc. George Allen GeorgeA@PaOnline.com Harrisburg, PA ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0EAD6.4712F6E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:23:22 -0700 To: From: "Randy Stein" Subject: Canopy Thoughts Message-ID: <008001c0eb2c$86818f20$97b11818@we.mediaone.net> Well, it is still Friday on the left coast. I have not seen any talk about this from the canopy heads. You may wish to take a look at this suppliers. Maybe he could be pestered into doing a mold for the 2S...can't beat the installation warranty! The prices aren't so bad either. http://www.kgarden.com/todd/ NetMom Randy Soviet Monica, CA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 09:35:02 To: adrenabh@terra.com.br, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> the best of Brazil Message-ID: Where in Brazil are you located? I'm going to be in Sau Paolo all next week and if you are close by I might like to stop by to see your airplane. Rich Parker Peterborough, NH >From: "Leonardoadrenalina" >To: , >Subject: KR> the best of Brazil >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:33:57 -0300 >hello kr amigos > >please take a look at this > >http://www.geocities.com/adrenabh/KR2S_AND_THE_SPEED_BOY.html?991419385410 > >Leo , Kr2s, Brazil. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:28:24 +0100 To: From: "macwood" Cc: "krnet user group" Subject: Re: KR> Gascolator heating Message-ID: <000201c0eb57$841ab9c0$57493c3e@tinypc> Thanks, Daniel and Larry , I suspect I was lucky to get away with it too, I had an engine failure on base due to overheating, but that was due to a thermal relief valve on the oil outlet that was stuck closed. No oil was going through the cooler! The valve must have been installed by the gent I bought the engine from as the makers were baffled as to how the engine ran at all! Lesson -Never take anything on trust. The position of the NACA inlet would be at the lower rear corner of the lower engine cowling. I hadn't considered the possibility of it being in a negative pressure area- any clues? Thanks to all. Mac. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 7:10 PM Subject: KR> Gascolator heating > Hi Mac, > > The KR2 that I have been repairing was damaged because of vaporlock/engine > out associated with the gascolator being too near the exhaust pipes. I talked > to Joe at Revmaster and he told me that Ken Rand had several engine outs in > the beginning until he figured out that he needed to shroud the gascolator. > My friend who crashed the plane I now have was doing touch and go's and not > enough high speed flying to move enough heat buildup out of the cowling area > which caused the vaporlock. He is lucky to be alive now because he lost the > engine on takeoff while at too steep of angle climbout. > The answer is Shroud the gascolator and Great idea of ducting fresh air to > it. The back vertical shroud on your engine is a good place to take fresh air > to the gascolator and also use same area to blow fresh air on electronics or > magnetos if you have any. > My Mooney has two small aluminum tubes/ one on each side directing a flow of > fresh air onto the magnetoes from the back of this vertical shroud at the > rear of the engine. > > Larry Howell laheze@aol.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:21:25 EDT To: macwood@tinyworld.co.uk, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Laheze@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Gascolator heating Message-ID: <57.16fd07b5.284a88a5@aol.com> Hi Mac, Just come off the back of the engine shrouding, there is plenty of fresh air and pressure to push air through ducting down to the gascolatorf and save yourself the work of messing up your cowling adding the NACA inlet. Larry Howell laheze@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:20:08 -0400 To: From: "feral" Subject: slighly off friday re: poly. thinner Message-ID: <002c01c0eb66$c0a4ef00$841dacd1@farrell> ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0EB45.37D74720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try denatured alchol. It works with epoxy and is a great substitute for = Get Rot. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0EB45.37D74720-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 07:50:59 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Acrylic waterborn paint/Rolling and Tipping Message-ID: <20010602145059.5676.qmail@web4704.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Ron, It is important to have first-hand experience with something like this before trying it on your pride-an-joy, much less your airplane. Since I have no experience painting, I'll probably get some on something else before I paint my plane. The price of ANY "aircraft" paint makes it difficult to get a LOT of experience first though. I just thought folks would like to know the article is there so they could look into it if they were interested. It is about fabric covered planes that are WWI replicas. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:45:36 -0700 To: "krnet user group" From: "AL Hawkins" Subject: Securing piano hine pin Message-ID: <006101c0eb7b$117d4120$1b43e8d8@bc.hsia.telus.net> ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C0EB40.64E46D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys, what is the best way to secure the piano hinge pin? My canopy hine pin is prevented from going to far in, but not from = pulling out. Al Hawkins Port Coquitlam, B.C. ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C0EB40.64E46D60-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 12:52:14 -0400 To: "krnet user group" From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> Securing piano hine pin Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010602124917.00a08ca0@pop.erols.com> --=====================_1015757==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:45 AM 6/2/2001 -0700, AL Hawkins wrote: >Hi guys, what is the best way to secure the piano hinge pin? >My canopy hine pin is prevented from going to far in, but not from pulling >out. > >Al Hawkins >Port Coquitlam, B.C. I know of three ways: 1) Leave the pin long, form a loop in the end, then hold the loop with a screw. 2) Cut the pin short and pean the end of the hinge loop so that the pin can't slide out. 3) Drill a small hole in the hinge loop and then add a piece of safety wire. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org --=====================_1015757==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:19:53 EDT To: a_hawkins@telus.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Re: KR> Securing piano hine pin Message-ID: <74.b3eef8d.284c3c39@cs.com> In a message dated 6/2/01 11:46:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, a_hawkins@telus.net writes: << My canopy hinge pin is prevented from going to far in, but not from pulling out. >> Make it a preflight item. Mine is not secured and has never even tried to work it's way out. I take it that the pin is installed from the front. Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:04:20 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: VW engines Message-ID: Hello, KRnuts- I missed Friday, but maybe you'll excuse the slightly off-topic post here. If you're running a VW, or thinking of building one up, consider this: the members of EAA Chapter 292 are building up 14 of them simultaneously, for a squadron of 14 "light replica" aircraft that the Chapter members are building as a group. How about 14 crankcases? Fifty-six cylinders and pistons? 112 valves? That sort of thing; all for identical 1835cc engines (Great Plains). Check it out, at http://www.teleport.com/~pongracz/noon_patrol/np_apr_01.html Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 08:46:46 -0700 To: Oscar Zuniga From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> VW engines Message-ID: <3B1A5BE6.A4B135FE@home.com> Oscar, Hey this is Cool! Maybe I will fly up there this week and Check it out. I know the owner of the FBO and restraunt at the Indepance airpark he used to work at HP in Corvallis. (Actually I was already planning on flying up to Eugene on Thursday). Oscar Zuniga wrote: > Hello, KRnuts- > > I missed Friday, but maybe you'll excuse the slightly off-topic post here. > If you're running a VW, or thinking of building one up, consider this: the > members of EAA Chapter 292 are building up 14 of them simultaneously, for a > squadron of 14 "light replica" aircraft that the Chapter members are > building as a group. How about 14 crankcases? Fifty-six cylinders and > pistons? 112 valves? That sort of thing; all for identical 1835cc engines > (Great Plains). Check it out, at > http://www.teleport.com/~pongracz/noon_patrol/np_apr_01.html > > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, Oregon > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:11:22 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Patrick Driscoll Subject: KR Gathering Message-ID: <20010602211122.14004.qmail@web14107.mail.yahoo.com> Anybody know about the KR gathering at Cape Girardeau, MO. I thought I saw it in Sport Avaition Mag. but I've gone through the listings at least six times now and don't see it. Someone mentioned it on the net a few days ago. I would like to know how many KR's I can expect to see there (if anyone knows yet if they are going) and I will bring a TV camera and mikes and tape the whole thing and put the tapes out for $10 like mark did but these tapes would be edited and have graphics to identify planes and people. I just don't want to drive 13 hours from MN and find only three or for planes. Can anyone give me some feedback? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 16:20:54 -0500 From: Bruce Watkins CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering Message-ID: <3B423736.A5D0F4C9@clas.net> Patrick, I don't believe it is a "KR gathering". It is the local airshow in Cape Girardeau. Last year there were NO KR's. If anyone knows anything different please post it. Bruce Cape Girardeau, MO -- .+'''+. ,-//# .+'''+. ." ". ." Bruce Watkins http://users.clas.net/~flyer '+,,,+' '+,,,,+' _____________________________________________ Patrick Driscoll wrote: > > Anybody know about the KR gathering at Cape Girardeau, > MO. I thought I saw it in Sport Avaition Mag. but I've > gone through the listings at least six times now and > don't see it. Someone mentioned it on the net a few > days ago. I would like to know how many KR's I can > expect to see there (if anyone knows yet if they are > going) and I will bring a TV camera and mikes and tape > the whole thing and put the tapes out for $10 like > mark did but these tapes would be edited and have > graphics to identify planes and people. I just don't > want to drive 13 hours from MN and find only three or > for planes. > Can anyone give me some feedback? > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:46:39 -0700 (PDT) To: Patrick Driscoll , krnet@mailinglists.org From: CS Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering Message-ID: <20010603004639.75413.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Patrick, I don't think the Cape Girardeau show is "KR specific." It's apparently a general airshow. Here'the link to the post... http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/m2274.html and here's the post quoted (in it's entirety): "The Airshow ar Cape Girardeau, Missouri will take place on the week-end of July 14-15. It's a good show and is getting bigger every year. I'm building a KR-2 also and hope to see you there. Other planes are welcome too. The last couple of years, The airport has closed from 2 to 6 pm for the show. You will need to plan to get here before 2pm or after 6pm. If there is a change in the schedule I will let you know. Could you let other KR members know and as soon as I get more info I will let you know. You can also contact Bruce Loy, airport manager at 573-334-6230 or contact Jerry Nilson." CS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:36:17 -0700 (PDT) To: Patrick Driscoll , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering Message-ID: <20010603023617.2784.qmail@web4705.mail.yahoo.com> Patrick and anyone else who wants to see a KR, Your absolute best opportunity to see a REAL-LIFE KR is the REAL KR Gathering in Pine Bluff Arkansas. I have copied the information from, and the web-address of Mark Langford's excellent web site for your use. You just won't get to see this many KRs anywhere else. The airshow in Cape Girardeau Mo is just an airshow where some KR folk are trying to get some KRs to come in and show their planes. There are some great KRs close enough to do that and you may get to see them. For SURE you'll see KRs at The Gathering. Visit Mark Langford's site at: http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford/kr2s.html Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX Info on KR Gathering 2001 The "Official" 2001 KR Gathering will be in Pine Bluff, Arkansas, September 21-23 with Tommy Waymack hosting the affair this time around (870-535-3294 or email him at blindate@seark.net). We recommend the Best Western Pines Motel 800-528-1234 or 870-535-8640 or The Hampton Inn 800-HAMPTON or 870-850-0444. Mention you are with the KR Gathering to get a discount rate. Tentative Gathering Schedule: Thursday, Sept 20 - the real die-hards arrive Friday, Sept 21 - arrivals and hangar flying Saturday, Sept 22 - flying, demonstrations, judging Sunday, Sept 23 - farewells and departures We will have the same hangar that we had in 1997. Pine Bluff is located about 40 miles south of Little Rock, Arkansas at the end of Interstate 530. You can expect about 10-25 KRs to fly in for the Gathering, depending on weather. This is THE place to put your hands on real KR aircraft so don't miss it! Most everybody that wants a ride in one gets it. You won't likely forget it soon either. We will once again have dinner catered Friday evening along with lunch on Saturday. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:13:37 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Didactics1@aol.com Subject: KR-2s in Michigan? Message-ID: <50.16982ed9.284acd21@aol.com> Is there anyone out there either building or flying a KR-1, KR-2, or KR-2S? My brother and I (NH) are colloborating on a project and he would like to take a close at what we are working towards. Appreciate the cooperation of anyone who is residing in Michigan and a member of our community. Steve Robinson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 21:23:04 -0700 To: kr From: POND CARTER Subject: Pitot and static port locations? and performace results Message-ID: <3B19BBA8.BB42FF1@home.com> Pitot and static port locations? i am thinking of putting an alum tube and extending it out of the wind mount gap about 4" for pitot. The static port is a unknow yet any suggestions. A local KR2 vents his static port to cabin? Just found this fellow today at airport CYKF Local KR2 stock dim. built 10 years ago and still flying stock vw 18-- something empty weight 503# wings weight 35# each one tank in header postion climb out 2000 ftmin one person on board @ 1100ft elv. cruise 160 easily normally pull it down to 155mph like to fly with 100# sand bag in right seat position. Has no trim tab and does not need one. has fixed gear with wheel pants, full vfr panel still has Rand tail wheel but reduce the leverage in his elevator controls. Has no pitch control problems to speak of. Found the a/c to be very friendly for low time pilot ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 23:19:10 -0500 To: KR-Net From: Mark Jones Subject: [Fwd: KR> Re: FW: VIRUS WARNING!!] Message-ID: <3B19BABE.1E3C840@execpc.com> --------------8C4ABB69572128D0B1DC3F98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage --------------8C4ABB69572128D0B1DC3F98 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <3B19BA4D.41B76356@execpc.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 23:17:17 -0500 From: Mark Jones X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "w.g. kirkland" , krnet@mailinglists.com Subject: Re: KR> Re: FW: VIRUS WARNING!! References: <200105311537.KAA92014@nm1.nwbl.wi.voyager.net> <003001c0ebe0$fb700c80$58905bd1@kirkland> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow Bill, Aren't you a really nice guy. If you think I did this intentionally, you must be really mistaken. BTW, this file was deleted from four systems at my business and as to date we have had no problems with either our network or personal pc's. But thanks for the tip on the legal matter. I will call my lawyer if you feel I should!!! Mark Jones "w.g. kirkland" wrote: > stop it. you are going to delete a file that deals with ultra long file > names. please stop trying, knowingly or not, trying to damage other peoples > programs. Now that you are aware of what you are doing you are legally > liable for any damage you cause. > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:37 AM > Subject: KR> Re: FW: VIRUS WARNING!! > > > Hey Guys, > > I just received this from a friend who e-mails me and I did find this > > on my computer. Don't take a chance, follow these steps, see if you > > have it and get rid of this before it is active. Thanks and sorry for > > the inconveinience if you have it. > > Mark Jones > > > > > > > To all: > > > > > > My apologies, but I may have passed a serious virus on to you via > > > e-mail. Copied below is an e-mail I received today regarding this > > > virus programmed to become active June 1. Because of the delay in > > > activation, it does NOT show up on virus detection software such as > > > McAffee or Norton. I checked my computer this morning and found the > > > virus. > > > > > > No one knows how long the virus as been in the system. It may > > > have been there for several months already. On June 1, this virus > > will > > > become active and wipe out all files and folders on the hard drive > > of > > > your computer. The virus travels through e-mail and migrates to the > > > 'C:/windows/command' folder. > > > > > > TO FIND IT AND GET RID OF IT FROM YOUR COMPUTER, DO THE FOLLOWING: > > > Go to START > > > Go to FIND or SEARCH > > > Go to FILES or FOLDERS > > > Make sure the find box is searching the "C" Drive > > > Type in: SULFNBK.EXE > > > Begin Search > > > If it finds the file, highlight it, but DO NOT OPEN IT > > > Go to FILE and DELETE it. > > > Close the FIND box > > > Find the RECYCLE BIN > > > Find the file and delete it form the RECYCLE BIN > > > > > > The GOOD NEWS is you should now be safe > > > > > > The BAD NEWS that if you detect the virus, you in turn need to > > contact > > > everyone you have sent ANY e-mail to in the past few months and > > share > > > this warning with them. Do not rely on your anti-virus software. > > > Neither McAfee nor Norton can detect this virus because it does not > > > become a > > > virus until June 1. On that date, it will be too late. Whatever > > you > > > do, do not open the file! > > > Sorry for the inconvenience - I hope that's all it will be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage --------------8C4ABB69572128D0B1DC3F98-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:38:07 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Subject: Can't get a break ( N6399U ) Message-ID: <20010603.143807.-314299.0.klw1953@juno.com> Well the beautiful Pa. weather struck again, I did get to do more taxi work in 15 kt winds again. I did correct a toe in problem with the left main gear, that seemed to correct the problem I experienced a couple of weeks ago with skittish behavior but the S still doesn't seem as sure footed on the runway as a 172. Well at this point all I can do is wait for calm winds and blue skies, something I haven't seen around here for a while.-----------------Kenny ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************