From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 14 Jul 2001 09:14:39 -0000 Issue 253 Date: Saturday, July 14, 2001 2:15 AM krnet Digest 14 Jul 2001 09:14:39 -0000 Issue 253 Topics (messages 5945 through 5968): Starter motor 5945 by: macwood 5946 by: Mark Langford 5947 by: virgnvs.juno.com pour in place foam and Radiator 5948 by: POND CARTER 5949 by: Mark Langford finishing foam edges 5950 by: w.g. kirkland 5953 by: Donald Reid Kr gear 5951 by: jim & louise ozias 5954 by: Robert Stone 5955 by: Robert Cooper 5957 by: Robert X. Cringely 5959 by: Richard Parker 5961 by: anthony soldano 5963 by: Mark Jones Re: grumman windshield - slide back 5952 by: larry flesner 5965 by: Daniel Heath End of an Era, Kelly AFB is closed today 5956 by: Frank Ross 5962 by: Robert Stone 5966 by: Philip J. Visconti Re: carbon fiber source? 5958 by: Mark Langford Off Topic 5960 by: Robert Cooper Revmaster for sale 5964 by: David Davis Web Page Update 5967 by: Mark Jones KR on a pickup...nope... 5968 by: CS Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:04:02 +0100 To: "krnet user group" From: "macwood" Subject: Starter motor Message-ID: <001101c10aec$5c5ad1e0$68293c3e@tinypc> ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C10AF4.A673F600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am fitting a Subaru starter motor to my Revmaster. The motor has its own = solenoid and a separate push-on conector. Where should this be connected = to? = = Thanks in advance - Mac ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C10AF4.A673F600-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:28:38 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Starter motor Message-ID: <001001c10af8$1714a280$5f0ca58c@mlangford> Mac wrote: >Am fitting a Subaru starter motor to my Revmaster. The motor has its own solenoid and >a separate push-on conector. Where should this be connected >to? There should be a big copper or brass stud (8mm, probably) on the solenoid that the positive pole of the battery should be connected to, through a wire that's at least 4 ga. The little spade terminal goes to the momentary starter switch or button. The starter is grounded through the case to the engine. Those three connections are all you need. If you have any more spade connectors than that, they are for "accessory" things in the engine compartment that need to "know" when the starter is activated or not activated, and you wouldn't need them. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:25:37 -0400 To: macwood@tinyworld.co.uk From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Starter motor Message-ID: <20010712.143724.-271547.0.virgnvs@juno.com> The starter switch ??? Virg On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:04:02 +0100 "macwood" writes: > Am fitting a Subaru starter motor to my Revmaster. The motor has its > own solenoid and a separate push-on conector. Where should this be > connected to? > > Thanks in advance - Mac > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:40:50 -0700 To: kr From: POND CARTER Subject: pour in place foam and Radiator Message-ID: <3B4E4392.C29DB465@home.com> HI Netters Can some one tell me if Pour in place pylyurethane foam will stick to Trymer 2000. Using it for my engine cowling on the Taylor Mono plane. I'm thinking of using the Cam 125 Honda by Firewall forward for the KR. Has any one see a good clean design for Radiators and where to ideally mount it. The present plan is to mnt it behind the motor (borrow some of the space where the header tank may be)and use a scoop on the belly with side exhaust vents the same as the AR-5. Darren ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:01:14 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> pour in place foam and Radiator Message-ID: <005601c10b26$aada98c0$0d04b4d8@thinkpad> > Can some one tell me if Pour in place pylyurethane foam will stick to > Trymer 2000. Using it for my engine cowling on the Taylor Mono plane Absolutely. It works just fine. Just don't stir or move the foam around after you have poured it in place, or you'll have huge voids or bubbles in your foam. My whole plane is Trymer 2000 foam with lots of 2 part foam from Wicks... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:06:41 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: finishing foam edges Message-ID: <015901c10b59$9c2eeb40$2ab45bd1@kirkland> ------=_NextPart_000_0156_01C10B38.13C5F8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Someone asked this question recently but I didn't see the reply. How do = you finish the exposed edges of foam? eg. a panel of clark foam or the = joint between the horizontal stab and the elevator. Do you just fill it = with flox or should it be covered with glass. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ------=_NextPart_000_0156_01C10B38.13C5F8A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 08:50:27 -0400 To: From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> finishing foam edges Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010713083552.009dc6b0@pop.erols.com> --=====================_2121402==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:06 AM 7/13/2001 -0400, w.g. kirkland wrote: >Someone asked this question recently but I didn't see the reply. How do >you finish the exposed edges of foam? eg. a panel of clark foam or the >joint between the horizontal stab and the elevator. Do you just fill it >with flox or should it be covered with glass. >W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND >kirkland@vianet.on.ca For a foam panel that is glassed on both sides and needs to look good: I removed about 3/8" of the foam and then fill the cavity with strands of uni-directional glass fibers and then flox. I place the uni- in the cavity while it is dry and fill up about 1/2 of the volume of the cavity. Then I fill the cavity with a fairly wet mixture of epoxy and flox. Press it in with a putty knife and (if necessary) put a layer of masking tape over it to hold it in place during cure. This is what I did on my seat and instrument panel. For parts where the angle between them is less than about 90 degrees: Glass one side (usually the side that shows) first. On the other side, remove about one inch of foam down to the inside of the glass. Apply glass over the second side and get a good bond to the inside of the first surface. Then fill the recess with dry micro. For parts where the angle between them is more than about 90 degrees: Round over the edge of the foam and overlap the glass by about one inch. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org --=====================_2121402==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 05:36:03 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: jim & louise ozias Subject: Kr gear Message-ID: <3B4EC103.696618CE@ne.mediaone.net> I am considering buying a KR project and was wondering if a KR on gear will fit in the back of a standard pickup truck. Also since I will be keeping the KR in my garage and trailering to the airport, will the repetative assembly/disassembly of the wings affect the wing attatch fittings? jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:41:14 -0500 To: "KRNet" , From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Kr gear Message-ID: <000d01c10ba9$e8820c20$ebd8fea9@pavilion> Jim & Louise: I think you will find the wing stubs way too long to fit into a standard pick-up. You need a trailer. There is not a lot of weight involved so the trailer can be a small single wheel. As for mounting and dismounting the wings every time you want to use the aircraft, forget it. It's just too much trouble, also you would have to have a stock of lock nuts because after being used twice they need to be replaced with new ones. Since it's a composite aircraft you also must have a hanger because composite aircraft do not fair well in the sun and exposure to the other elements. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rlspjs@dashlink.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim & louise ozias" To: Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 4:36 AM Subject: KR> Kr gear > I am considering buying a KR project and was wondering if a KR on gear > will fit in the back of a standard pickup truck. Also since I will be > keeping the KR in my garage and trailering to the airport, will the > repetative assembly/disassembly of the wings affect the wing attatch > fittings? > jim > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:09:09 -0700 To: "jimozs" , "krnet" From: "Robert Cooper" Subject: Re: KR> Kr gear Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C10BA5.62BC46E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim I bought my KR in the boat stage and it was delivered on a pickup. There = were no winge involved. The main gear legs were removed then some boards = were secured across the top of the bed then the KR boat secured to the bo= ards. As I recall the center spars extended over the sides of the truck a= nd the tail over the back of the truck. The boat was very nicely wraped w= ith a sheet of plastic to protect it from the elements. Hope this helps Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.geocities.com/kr2cooper/ Fayetteville, NC. ----- Original Message ----- From: jim & louise ozias Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 2:37 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Kr gear I am considering buying a KR project and was wondering if a KR on gear will fit in the back of a standard pickup truck. Also since I will be keeping the KR in my garage and trailering to the airport, will the repetative assembly/disassembly of the wings affect the wing attatch fittings? jim --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C10BA5.62BC46E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:36:54 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR> Kr gear Message-Id: From http://avstop.com/AC/apgeneral/AIRCRAFTNUTS.html: "Normally, elastic stop nuts can be used many times with complete safety and without detriment to their locking efficiency. When reusing elastic stop nuts, be sure the fiber has not lost its locking friction or become brittle. If a nut can be turned with the fingers, replace it." >Jim & Louise: > > I think you will find the wing stubs way too long to fit >into a standard pick-up. You need a trailer. There is not a lot of weight >involved so the trailer can be a small single wheel. As for mounting and >dismounting the wings every time you want to use the aircraft, forget it. >It's just too much trouble, also you would have to have a stock of lock nuts >because after being used twice they need to be replaced with new ones. >Since it's a composite aircraft you also must have a hanger because >composite aircraft do not fair well in the sun and exposure to the other >elements. > >Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:02:13 To: rlspjs@dashlink.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> Kr gear Message-ID: although it was only in the boat stage I moved mine in the back of a pickup. the spars had to rest on the sides of the truck though. slid evberything else underneath it. Rich Parker >From: "Robert Stone" >Reply-To: "Robert Stone" >To: "KRNet" , >Subject: Re: KR> Kr gear >Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:41:14 -0500 > >Jim & Louise: > > I think you will find the wing stubs way too long to fit >into a standard pick-up. You need a trailer. There is not a lot of weight >involved so the trailer can be a small single wheel. As for mounting and >dismounting the wings every time you want to use the aircraft, forget it. >It's just too much trouble, also you would have to have a stock of lock >nuts >because after being used twice they need to be replaced with new ones. >Since it's a composite aircraft you also must have a hanger because >composite aircraft do not fair well in the sun and exposure to the other >elements. > >Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx >rlspjs@dashlink.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jim & louise ozias" >To: >Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 4:36 AM >Subject: KR> Kr gear > > > > I am considering buying a KR project and was wondering if a KR on gear > > will fit in the back of a standard pickup truck. Also since I will be > > keeping the KR in my garage and trailering to the airport, will the > > repetative assembly/disassembly of the wings affect the wing attatch > > fittings? > > jim > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:04:39 -0400 To: , From: "anthony soldano" Subject: Re: KR> Kr gear Message-ID: <001901c10be7$d1006720$6aeb1440@compaq> jim . i moved my project in the back of my jeep p.u.the center spars resting on the bed rails and the tail on the roof.tie it down good.my tail wanted to lift off. -----Original Message----- From: jim & louise ozias To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Friday, July 13, 2001 5:38 AM Subject: KR> Kr gear >I am considering buying a KR project and was wondering if a KR on gear >will fit in the back of a standard pickup truck. Also since I will be >keeping the KR in my garage and trailering to the airport, will the >repetative assembly/disassembly of the wings affect the wing attatch >fittings? >jim > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:28:33 -0500 To: jimozs@ne.mediaone.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mark Jones Subject: Re: KR> Kr gear Message-ID: <3B4F9231.CF837C11@execpc.com> You will need a trailer at least 7 feet wide. I moved mine on a snowmobile trailer last year when I moved. Worked great and got lots of looks! Mark Jones jim & louise ozias wrote: > I am considering buying a KR project and was wondering if a KR on gear > will fit in the back of a standard pickup truck. Also since I will be > keeping the KR in my garage and trailering to the airport, will the > repetative assembly/disassembly of the wings affect the wing attatch > fittings? > jim > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 07:03:08 -0500 To: krnet From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> grumman windshield - slide back Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010713070308.0084a2b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> >My thought was to take the Tiger windshield, tip it back to come as close as >possible to the profile >of the nicer KRs, trim the bottom skirt as necessary, and then form a gull-wing >canopy from Plexi. >both the Mooney and Tiger windshields are 42 inches wide on a 42 inch cockpit. >Rex Ellington ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rex, Your idea is workable, it just depends on these particular components. I used the forward end (approx 20 inches) of a broken Pulsar canopy for a fixed windshield and cut up a regular KR half bubble for the side glass panels. It is very nearly the shape (profile) of the new -2S canopy. Wicks sells scrap plywood strips for $2.00 a bundle that work great for laminating the bows and building up the door. They come in bundles with assorted thicknesses. I've never asked Wicks if they would sell bundles with all the same thinkness strips but it would be worth asking. If not, I'm guessing you could build up the entire frame and door with less than $20 worth of wood. Using a KR half bubble for the side glass, you have to measure and cut very carefully to get reasonable size panels but it can be done. I lucked out in that the Pulsar canopy and the KR canopy were both tinted the same shade. Hey, some days you win and other days the other team just gives you the game!! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:52:35 -0400 To: "krnet" , "larry flesner" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Re: KR> grumman windshield - slide back Message-ID: <000301c10c07$ea3b3e20$1c2c5d0c@scana.com> Can you make a good Gull Wing canopy with just the pieces of a regular KR2 canopy, or do you need to get more glass? Dan Heath ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "krnet" Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 8:03 AM Subject: Re: KR> grumman windshield - slide back > >My thought was to take the Tiger windshield, tip it back to come as close as > >possible to the profile > >of the nicer KRs, trim the bottom skirt as necessary, and then form a > gull-wing > >canopy from Plexi. > >both the Mooney and Tiger windshields are 42 inches wide on a 42 inch > cockpit. > >Rex Ellington > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Rex, > > Your idea is workable, it just depends on these particular components. > I used the forward end (approx 20 inches) of a broken Pulsar canopy > for a fixed windshield and cut up a regular KR half bubble for the > side glass panels. It is very nearly the shape (profile) of the new > -2S canopy. Wicks sells scrap plywood strips for $2.00 a bundle that > work great for laminating the bows and building up the door. They come > in bundles with assorted thicknesses. I've never asked Wicks if they > would sell bundles with all the same thinkness strips but it would be > worth asking. If not, I'm guessing you could build up the entire frame > and door with less than $20 worth of wood. Using a KR half > bubble for the side glass, you have to measure and cut very carefully to > get reasonable size panels but it can be done. I lucked out in that the > Pulsar > canopy and the KR canopy were both tinted the same shade. Hey, some > days you win and other days the other team just gives you the game!! > > Larry Flesner > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:17:07 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet From: Frank Ross Subject: End of an Era, Kelly AFB is closed today Message-ID: <20010713191707.14448.qmail@web4704.mail.yahoo.com> As I write this, there is a ceremony going on at Kelly Air Force Base to turn it over to the civilian authorities in San Antonio, Texas. How fitting that it happens on a Friday 13th. Kelly lies only a few miles from the field where the Stinsons put together their airplanes before WWI and Kathleen Stinson became one of the first women to have a pilot's license and fly the plane she helped build, one of the Wright Brother's planes. The Stinson kids rode the train to Ohio to bring the parts of the plane back to San Antonio and put it together. Think kitplanes and homebuilding is something new? That was just short of 13 years under a hundred years ago. Stinson field is still operating class D controlled airfield on the south side of San Antonio. Just south of Kelly. Kelly was carved out of pastures for WWI flyers. Air Force pilots learned to fly the first planes there and, in subsequent wars, pilots learned to fly and sharpen their skills at Kelly. It lies just to the east of Lackland Air Force Base and Wilford Hall USAF Medical Center. I met, triaged and treated patients in a cold hanger there when we invaded Panama. At Travis AFB from 1961-63 I loaded wounded from Viet Nam onto C-131s bound for Kelly. (C-131 is a twin piston-engine cargo aircraft used for state-side air-evac before the C-9). Didn't know we were getting wounded from Viet Nam that early? Not many others knew it either. Planes flying into Kelly come almost directly over my house. A few years back I was surprised to see four Mig-29s flying escort for a DC-10 size plane on approach to Kelly. On the news later in the day, I learned they had been bringing in Russian diplomats or arms inspectors for some kind of meeting here. Anyway, I am sure I will begin to see a much different kind of traffic going into Kelly now, since it is no longer an Air Force Base. The Texas ANG still flys F-16 there and C-5s, C-17s and other large USAF planes will still come there to civilian contractors for some kinds of maintenance, but Kelly AFB is no more. Maybe we'll all get to enjoy the 11,000 ft runway. Keep an eye out though, when they say "heavy" they are still talking C-5s. BTW the static aircraft displays on Kelly still include one of the few remaining B-58 hustlers, like the one John Denver's father set records in. Okay, back to KRs Frank __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:40:54 -0500 To: "Frank Ross" , "krnet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> End of an Era, Kelly AFB is closed today Message-ID: <000e01c10bec$e103e200$ebd8fea9@pavilion> Frank: You history buff you, I love it. Bob Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ross" To: "krnet" Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 2:17 PM Subject: KR> End of an Era, Kelly AFB is closed today > As I write this, there is a ceremony going on at Kelly > Air Force Base to turn it over to the civilian > authorities in San Antonio, Texas. How fitting that it > happens on a Friday 13th. > Kelly lies only a few miles from the field where the > Stinsons put together their airplanes before WWI and > Kathleen Stinson became one of the first women to have > a pilot's license and fly the plane she helped build, > one of the Wright Brother's planes. The Stinson kids > rode the train to Ohio to bring the parts of the plane > back to San Antonio and put it together. Think > kitplanes and homebuilding is something new? That was > just short of 13 years under a hundred years ago. > Stinson field is still operating class D controlled > airfield on the south side of San Antonio. Just south > of Kelly. > Kelly was carved out of pastures for WWI flyers. Air > Force pilots learned to fly the first planes there > and, in subsequent wars, pilots learned to fly and > sharpen their skills at Kelly. It lies just to the > east of Lackland Air Force Base and Wilford Hall USAF > Medical Center. I met, triaged and treated patients in > a cold hanger there when we invaded Panama. At Travis > AFB from 1961-63 I loaded wounded from Viet Nam onto > C-131s bound for Kelly. (C-131 is a twin piston-engine > cargo aircraft used for state-side air-evac before the > C-9). Didn't know we were getting wounded from Viet > Nam that early? Not many others knew it either. > Planes flying into Kelly come almost directly over my > house. A few years back I was surprised to see four > Mig-29s flying escort for a DC-10 size plane on > approach to Kelly. On the news later in the day, I > learned they had been bringing in Russian diplomats or > arms inspectors for some kind of meeting here. > Anyway, I am sure I will begin to see a much different > kind of traffic going into Kelly now, since it is no > longer an Air Force Base. The Texas ANG still flys > F-16 there and C-5s, C-17s and other large USAF planes > will still come there to civilian contractors for some > kinds of maintenance, but Kelly AFB is no more. > Maybe we'll all get to enjoy the 11,000 ft runway. > Keep an eye out though, when they say "heavy" they are > still talking C-5s. > BTW the static aircraft displays on Kelly still > include one of the few remaining B-58 hustlers, like > the one John Denver's father set records in. > Okay, back to KRs > Frank > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:35:50 -0400 To: kae_ar@yahoo.com From: "Philip J. Visconti" Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> End of an Era, Kelly AFB is closed today Message-ID: <20010713.223551.-129233.0.viscan@juno.com> BTW Frank, Are you aware for whom Kelly AFB was named ? And the reason ? Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:02:00 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> carbon fiber source? Message-ID: <009c01c10bd6$ae919d50$5f0ca58c@mlangford> Somebody wrote: >>The Composite Store sells 5.8 oz 50" wide carbon fabric at 13.95/Ft. as well as others. http://www.cstsales.com/carbon-cloth.htm<<< I just almost ordered this, thinking it was $13.95/yard, and realized that it's $13.95 a FOOT. Dave Mullins' source at http://www.a-c-m.com/ is $19 a yard (36" x 50"), less than half the price... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:58:29 -0700 To: "krnet_1" From: "Robert Cooper" Subject: Off Topic Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C10BC5.6C542040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable KR netters. Its Friday and I need a little info. If anyone can help pleas= e reply off net. I'm considering buying an airplane for personal use and = would like to hear from some owners about what expenses to expect. I'm co= nsidering a two place trainer type of A/C in $20 to 25K price range. Insu= rance companies wont give a quote without an N number so I would like to = know about insurance cost, annual inspections, unscheduled maintenance et= c.. I know these cost vary greatly so if you own a simular type of airpla= ne and don't mind sharing the information it would be greatly appreciated= . =20 Jack Coopermailto:kr2cooper@msn.comhttp://www.geocities.com/kr2cooper/Fay= etteville, NC. ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C10BC5.6C542040-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:30:06 -0500 To: From: "David Davis" Subject: Revmaster for sale Message-ID: <001401c10c04$83f8aec0$cc0e2bd8@davis> If anybody needs an engine I have a Revmaster 2100D for sale. Dual bendix mag , oil cooler, Posa carb with mixture control. $3500 OBO. TGIF Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 23:27:36 -0500 To: CorvAIRCRAFT , KR-Net From: Mark Jones Subject: Web Page Update Message-ID: <3B4FCA38.9FC0C708@execpc.com> Hello All, I have added photos of my prop hub spacer and of my rear alternator to my engine page. Check it out if you wish. Lots of photos so may be slow to load. The new ones are at the bottom of the page. Thanks, http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/engine -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 02:14:40 -0700 (PDT) To: jimozs@ne.mediaone.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: CS Subject: KR on a pickup...nope... Message-ID: <20010714091440.51270.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Jim, My plans-built KR2 is about 81", wheel to wheel, to outside of wheels. My KR1 is about 63", outside to outside. My Dodge Dakota, standard bed, is about 58 inches, inside to inside. I just don't see any way to make it work without getting REALLY creative. If I'm reading your question right, I think you can forget about anything other than maybe a trike or powered parachute fitting into the back of a pickup. However, folding/removable wings on a trailer is a very viable alternative to hanger cost/availability. With all the wannabe Rutans on KRNet (myself included), I'm surprised no one has seriously pursued this. One of the reasons we like KRs is cuz they're relatively cheap to build and maintain (and fast as hell if done right). Are hangars cheap? My local FBO, in the middle of nowhere, is $90 per mo....except that none are available right now. Put yer name on the list, my man... Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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