From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 16 Jul 2001 11:19:09 -0000 Issue 254 Date: Monday, July 16, 2001 4:19 AM krnet Digest 16 Jul 2001 11:19:09 -0000 Issue 254 Topics (messages 5969 through 5995): Re: Kr gear 5969 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout 5971 by: Peter Nauta 5972 by: House of D's Radio Noise (6399U) 5970 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout 5988 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout Trailer 5973 by: Edwin Blocher Gullwing Canopy 5974 by: Frank Ross 5975 by: Donald Reid 5976 by: Daniel Heath 5979 by: Flymaca711689.cs.com 5982 by: Frank Ross Re: Kelly namesake 5977 by: Philip J. Visconti engine reliability 5978 by: jim & louise ozias 5980 by: Frank Ross 5985 by: w.g. kirkland 5987 by: Robert X. Cringely 5989 by: Jan Laan Re: Kelly namesake(Off Topic) 5981 by: Frank Ross Kelly AFB 5983 by: manrj.att.net 5984 by: Philip J. Visconti KR and soob engines 5986 by: Sam Sayer Re: Starter motor 5990 by: macwood Skip Carden's KR 5991 by: Shane Daly 5993 by: David Mullins William Wynne in Critical Condition 5992 by: Mark Jones 5994 by: Philip J. Visconti Re: corvaircraft: William Wynne in Critical Condition] 5995 by: Mark Jones Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:42:15 -0400 To: flykr2s@execpc.com From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Kr gear Message-ID: <20010714.104216.-202721.0.klw1953@juno.com> I have been trailering mine ever since I got the green light from the FAA to start flight testing. I built a tilt trailer just to haul the KR2S, it's 8' wide and and 16' long and has wing pockets to haul the wings as well. As far as wearing out the wing attach bolt holes cause of removing the wings every time you want to fly I did this--------I made a jig to attach the wings since I'm a one man operation, it is simply a dolly you lay the wing on and slide it over to the plane and attach it while on the trailer. If you force the bolts through the holes every time due to misalignment I would think over time you could start wearing the holes. Good luck, Kenny (6399U) On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:28:33 -0500 Mark Jones writes: > You will need a trailer at least 7 feet wide. I moved mine on a > snowmobile > trailer last year when I moved. Worked great and got lots of looks! > Mark Jones > > jim & louise ozias wrote: > > > I am considering buying a KR project and was wondering if a KR on > gear > > will fit in the back of a standard pickup truck. Also since I will > be > > keeping the KR in my garage and trailering to the airport, will > the > > repetative assembly/disassembly of the wings affect the wing > attatch > > fittings? > > jim > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > -- > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 17:01:41 +0200 To: From: "Peter Nauta" Subject: RE: KR> Kr gear Message-ID: Do you have pictures of this? I'd love to see it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth L Wiltrout [mailto:klw1953@juno.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 4:42 PM > To: flykr2s@execpc.com > Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: Re: KR> Kr gear > > > I have been trailering mine ever since I got the green light from the FAA > to start flight testing. I built a tilt trailer just to haul the KR2S, > it's 8' wide and and 16' long and has wing pockets to haul the wings as > well. As far as wearing out the wing attach bolt holes cause of removing > the wings every time you want to fly I did this--------I made a jig to > attach the wings since I'm a one man operation, it is simply a dolly you > lay the wing on and slide it over to the plane and attach it while on the > trailer. If you force the bolts through the holes every time due to > misalignment I would think over time you could start wearing the holes. > Good luck, Kenny (6399U) > > On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:28:33 -0500 Mark Jones > writes: > > You will need a trailer at least 7 feet wide. I moved mine on a > > snowmobile > > trailer last year when I moved. Worked great and got lots of looks! > > Mark Jones > > > > jim & louise ozias wrote: > > > > > I am considering buying a KR project and was wondering if a KR on > > gear > > > will fit in the back of a standard pickup truck. Also since I will > > be > > > keeping the KR in my garage and trailering to the airport, will > > the > > > repetative assembly/disassembly of the wings affect the wing > > attatch > > > fittings? > > > jim > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > -- > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:13:25 -0500 To: , From: "House of D's" Subject: RE: KR> Kr gear Message-ID: I used a 4X4 flatbed utility trailer w/adjustable length tongue to haul my flying KR-1 300 miles home. With the help of Keith Campbell (builder), we removed the wings and wrapped them in a cocoon of packing blankets and packed them in the station wagon. Then we cut a 2X12 about 8" wider than the gear width. Used 2X4's to create a block around each tire. Bolted the 2X12 to the trailer in front of the single axel (weight close to the axel and forward of axel.) Tied mains to the 2X12. Tied the tail wheel to the channel that the tongue was made of and extended tongue far enough to prevent hitting the elevator in a turn. Took it ease going home. Only damage was a rock chip on trailing edge of elevator. Did not wrap any surfaces. Was afraid of chaff damage. Good luck! Darryl N21KC KR1@MO1 Lost in the Woods, MO -----Original Message----- From: Peter Nauta [mailto:pnauta@xs4all.nl] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 10:02 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: RE: KR> Kr gear Do you have pictures of this? I'd love to see it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth L Wiltrout [mailto:klw1953@juno.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 4:42 PM > To: flykr2s@execpc.com > Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: Re: KR> Kr gear > > > I have been trailering mine ever since I got the green light from the FAA > to start flight testing. I built a tilt trailer just to haul the KR2S, > it's 8' wide and and 16' long and has wing pockets to haul the wings as > well. As far as wearing out the wing attach bolt holes cause of removing > the wings every time you want to fly I did this--------I made a jig to > attach the wings since I'm a one man operation, it is simply a dolly you > lay the wing on and slide it over to the plane and attach it while on the > trailer. If you force the bolts through the holes every time due to > misalignment I would think over time you could start wearing the holes. > Good luck, Kenny (6399U) > > On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:28:33 -0500 Mark Jones > writes: > > You will need a trailer at least 7 feet wide. I moved mine on a > > snowmobile > > trailer last year when I moved. Worked great and got lots of looks! > > Mark Jones > > > > jim & louise ozias wrote: > > > > > I am considering buying a KR project and was wondering if a KR on > > gear > > > will fit in the back of a standard pickup truck. Also since I will > > be > > > keeping the KR in my garage and trailering to the airport, will > > the > > > repetative assembly/disassembly of the wings affect the wing > > attatch > > > fittings? > > > jim > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > -- > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:52:16 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Subject: Radio Noise (6399U) Message-ID: <20010714.105217.-202721.1.klw1953@juno.com> I just had my TKM MX11 out for repairs, it needed a diode and synthesizer repair, when the engine is not running it sounds like a million bucks but as soon as I start the engine every thing goes to hell, especially when I key the PTT It just squeals and the tower says it's unreadable. I'm assuming that it's ignition related ,but does anyone know or have some advice as to what the fix is? An ignition suppressor? You guys got all the answers. Thanks, Kenny ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:11:35 -0400 To: saunders@hereintown.net From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Radio Noise (6399U) Message-ID: <20010715.141136.-233657.0.klw1953@juno.com> Thanks for responding, but to answer your question I did indeed have this problem before the avionics shop fixed the other issues, I just didn't know at the time there were 2 separate problems with the radio. I will check the grounds at the radio, the antenna is of the ribbon variety that just has a piece of coax to it that goes directly to the radio. The avionics shop made up the cable that goes from the radio to the antenna. The Revmaster has an internal alternator inside the rear housing with a voltage regulator mounted outside that I installed. If there is something more I can do here I don't know what it could be. I'm not sure what you meant about B+ on the radio. The alternator puts out 14 volts.Thanks,-------Kenny On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 08:19:17 -0400 "saunders" writes: > Did you have this problem before repair? This type of problem is > usually > grounding or shielding related, My suggestion is first check any > ground > wiring with the radio, then the antenna, then the alternator. What > is the > loading of the alternator? Does this have an affect on the noise > level? > Check/ replace any capacitors on the ignition system, these are > there for > suppressing arcing. If these steps do not help, try a filter on the > B+ of > the radio. If the problem is as severe as you describe, you will > probably > find one source of problem. > > > I just had my TKM MX11 out for repairs, it needed a diode and > synthesizer > > repair, when the engine is not running it sounds like a million > bucks but > > as soon as I start the engine every thing goes to hell, especially > when I > > key the PTT It just squeals and the tower says it's unreadable. > I'm > > assuming that it's ignition related ,but does anyone know or have > some > > advice as to what the fix is? An ignition suppressor? You guys got > all > > the answers. Thanks, Kenny > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:29:16 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Trailer Message-ID: <005101c10c8a$837e57c0$c58c31cc@cyou.com> ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C10C60.991EA280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike Garbez trailered his KR2 to the !999 Gathering on a relly neat = trailer he ha modified. I hav a picture of it on a disc but they atr = packed away for another 3 months. I'm sure someone else has a picture of = it that they could post. Harbor Freight sells a n 1850# gross weight = trailer for about $400.00. It has 12 inch wheels and pulls really good. = After I make my final move in Sept. or Oct. I am going to modify mine = for my 2S. ED Ed Blocher Crestview, FL Blocher@cyou.com ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C10C60.991EA280-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:09:47 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet From: Frank Ross Subject: Gullwing Canopy Message-ID: <20010714210947.933.qmail@web4701.mail.yahoo.com> > Can you make a good Gull Wing canopy with just the > pieces of a regular KR2 > canopy, or do you need to get more glass? > > Dan Heath Dan, I am positive I read that Bobby Muse (the younger) built his that way, but I can't find where I read it. It looks like he cut the front of the standard KR-2 canopy and built it in as a fixed windshield, then used the sides to make a fixed right side and a gull-wing door for the left. This gives you a stronger roll-over protection and less chance of the canopy blowing off when you open it and get a prop-blast. You also can put any size of solid panel above your head for shade if you live someplace where you just do not need all that sun on your head all day. Building it this way is also a way to give yourself more head-room without being real obvious about it. I have not been in one yet, but I understand the standard KR canopy does not provide adequate head-room for two people with average size and heads and ear-phones. So, I am hoping you can do it this way, because that is my plan and I only want to use one KR2 canopy to do it. Of course, my all-time favorite is Les Palmer's Dragonfly canopy set-up. Good luck, ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:05:10 -0400 To: From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> Gullwing Canopy Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010714200258.00a0fd00@pop.erols.com> --=====================_3500550==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:09 PM 7/14/2001 -0700, Frank Ross wrote: > > Can you make a good Gull Wing canopy with just the > > pieces of a regular KR2 > > canopy, or do you need to get more glass? > >I am positive I read that Bobby Muse (the younger) >built his that way, but I can't find where I read it. You can find a brief writeup on my website. Go to the home page and follow the link to Sport Aviation articles. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org --=====================_3500550==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:48:07 -0400 To: "Frank Ross" , "krnet" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Gullwing Canopy Message-ID: <004f01c10cd1$496af8d0$a52c5d0c@scana.com> Frank, You are right about the standard. Have you ever tried to put together a premoulded, turtle deck and canopy. No way one person can fly it like that unless they want to sit in the center as a single place. I used the standard canopy to build my first one and I was really cramped, not enough head room to put your head sets on and hold your head up straight. That is why I want to do it differently this time. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ross" To: "krnet" Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: KR> Gullwing Canopy > > Can you make a good Gull Wing canopy with just the > > pieces of a regular KR2 > > canopy, or do you need to get more glass? > > > > Dan Heath > > Dan, > I am positive I read that Bobby Muse (the younger) > built his that way, but I can't find where I read it. > It looks like he cut the front of the standard KR-2 > canopy and built it in as a fixed windshield, then > used the sides to make a fixed right side and a > gull-wing door for the left. This gives you a stronger > roll-over protection and less chance of the canopy > blowing off when you open it and get a prop-blast. You > also can put any size of solid panel above your head > for shade if you live someplace where you just do not > need all that sun on your head all day. Building it > this way is also a way to give yourself more head-room > without being real obvious about it. I have not been > in one yet, but I understand the standard KR canopy > does not provide adequate head-room for two people > with average size and heads and ear-phones. > So, I am hoping you can do it this way, because that > is my plan and I only want to use one KR2 canopy to do > it. > Of course, my all-time favorite is Les Palmer's > Dragonfly canopy set-up. > Good luck, > > > > ===== > Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 08:07:48 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Flymaca711689@cs.com Subject: gullwing canopy Message-ID: <6c.cff75dd.2882e194@cs.com> you will find Mike mims site to have probably the best how to very detailed hope this will help. will with all my good luck lost the engine with student on friday13! on take off in are rans s12 at 500 ft field elv 143 ft corn field trees 180 was executed mirolight loses energy quick fly the plane you have no time! you must reacte right now airspeed is your friend do not stretch the glide and you to can come out with just messy shorts its not if it quits its when !!!!!!!! by the way your probably thinking two stroke releyblty we had fuel starvation with dual tanks it looks like to me it was an air pocket are start was made on the taxi way after we got it back together andit was fine Mac bbsport ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 06:13:31 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Gullwing Canopy Message-ID: <20010715131331.1747.qmail@web4702.mail.yahoo.com> Dan, I forgot to mention that Les Palmer, with one of the roomiest KRs around, still flies it from the center as a one-seater. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 22:37:11 -0400 To: kae_ar@yahoo.com From: "Philip J. Visconti" Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: Kelly namesake Message-ID: <20010714.223712.-243403.0.viscan@juno.com> Frank, The reason I asked about name of Kelly Field was because of something I read as a young boy. The Sunday funnies had a strip depicting heroes during WWII. After Pearl Harbor attack it depicted a pilot named Colin Kelly diving his damaged B-17 into a Japanese cruiser or battleship after his crew parachuted. I'm not sure if this is the one for which Kelly (Field) AFB was named. I was wondering if you knew. Orville Wright was demonstrating the Wright brothers plane for the U.S. Army to get a contract with the Army when it crashed. The passenger was Lt. Thomas E. Selfridge and he was killed. (The first to die as result off an airplane crash.) There was an AFB named after him. I don't know if it is still active. Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 06:11:45 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: jim & louise ozias Subject: engine reliability Message-ID: <3B516C61.1098EC80@ne.mediaone.net> Netters Thanks for the wonderful response on my question about moving a KR-2. I now know what i'm getting in to. The project I'm getting has a Revemaster 2100D. On every flight I cross 30 miles of open ocean.I'm used to Lyc. and continental jimengines. Is the revemaster reliable? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 05:52:39 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> engine reliability Message-ID: <20010715125239.7644.qmail@web4705.mail.yahoo.com> --- jim & louise ozias wrote: > Netters > Thanks for the wonderful response >Is the revemaster reliable? Jim, I'm not qualified to answer your question about Revmaster reliability, I simply wanted to point out that the KR should float pretty good. Congratulations and good luck. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:55:27 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: engine reliability Message-ID: <00a501c10d4e$f3bacb80$1bb45bd1@kirkland> ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C10D2D.6BD81FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A chap flying out of Toronto Island A/P recently had an engine failure = on his quickie. He set it down in the lake and there is a nice picture = of him standing on the wing when they picked him up. The plane stayed = upright and afloat and they just towed it to shore. Couldn't tell how = much damage he did but foam and wooden construction has some advantages. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C10D2D.6BD81FE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:32:37 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR> engine reliability Message-Id: I have never run a Revmaster engine, but I do have 1100 hours behind VW engines, mostly homebuilt from Great Plains parts. These engines have been quite reliable for me. I have run dual and single ignition, magneto and battery, all with equal success. My experience with Posa carburetors was not good, but that was many years ago. Since then I have had good success with Zenith, Mikuni, and Ellison. The Revmaster has that dual Bendix mag which has a single point of drive failure, but it runs on tons of certified engines, too, and they don't seem to be falling from the sky. I would definitely run a fuel pump, either mechanical or electric (maybe both -- mechanical with a Facet boost pump) because the available head for gravity fuel systems on a KR isn't much. Other than that the only problem to worry about is crank failure. There were some early Revmasters that had cast cranks (that's a no-no) and some later ones that were forged but from the wrong alloy. So I'd go back to Joe Horvath at Revmaster and get the history of your engine, making sure it has a proper forged crank. If Joe knows you are asking he'll also know your heirs and their attorney will be right behind if he doesn't make sure you have the right crank. That takes care of the engine, now to crossing that 30 miles of open ocean. My KR-1 (no flaps and a 19-foot span) has a best glide ratio of about 12-to-1. If you hit the right speed it just glides and glides. If you have an engine failure during your crossing, the most you would have to glide is 15 miles because you'll either turn back or go on depending on which land is closer. Of course winds will be a factor. I have run tests on my KR-1 and have found my best glide speed to be about 80 mph. If I am cruising at 150 mph and cut power I can pull the nose UP and gain more than 500 feet before the speed decays to 80. so that's the first thing to do. Given my glide ratio and this technique, making the crossing at any altitude above 6000 feet would guarantee you a forced landing, rather than a forced ditching. Finally there is the question about whether your KR-2 will float or not. My KR-1 was caught in a high tide many years ago that flooded the Palo Alto Airport where I used to be based. IT DID NOT FLOAT. EZ's float because their wings are solid styrofoam and their fuselages are foam, too. KR wings are hollow and eventually fill with water and the fuselage is wood with various holes cut in it. Maybe your KR-2 will float, but my KR-1 did not. Bob >Netters >Thanks for the wonderful response on my question about moving a KR-2. I >now know what i'm getting in to. >The project I'm getting has a Revemaster 2100D. On every flight I cross >30 miles of open ocean.I'm used to Lyc. and continental >jimengines. Is the revemaster reliable? > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:52:42 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Jan Laan Subject: Re: KR> engine reliability Message-ID: <99522671901@smtp.vphos.net> --- jim & louise ozias wrote: > Netters > Thanks for the wonderful response >Is the revemaster reliable? Jim, I'm not qualified to answer your question about Revmaster reliability, I simply wanted to point out that the KR should float pretty good. Congratulations and good luck. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, Apart from the floating; with a 10:1 glide ratio you should be able to make land from any point in the crossing if you fly above 10,000 ft.So, you'll be able to pull that off even without oxygen. Jan Laan Cumberland, BC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 06:10:31 -0700 (PDT) To: "Philip J. Visconti" From: Frank Ross Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Re: Kelly namesake(Off Topic) Message-ID: <20010715131031.20375.qmail@web4703.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Philip J. Visconti" wrote: > Frank, > > The reason I asked about name of Kelly Field was > because of something I > read as a young boy. The Sunday funnies had a strip > depicting heroes > during WWII. > After Pearl Harbor attack it depicted a pilot named > Colin Kelly diving > his damaged B-17 into a Japanese cruiser or > battleship after his crew > parachuted. I'm not sure if this is the one for > which Kelly (Field) AFB > was named. I was wondering if you knew. > Phil Well now Phil, you've gone and got my curiosity up. I was a boyhood fan of Colin Kelly. In 1969, I took a job at the Mental Health Center in Tallahassee, FL. which required me to go to the small clinic in Madison, in north-central Florida. Driving into Madison the first day, I saw a billboard which said "Welcome to Madison Florida, home of Colin Kelly". I never met any of his relatives while I was there, but did learn that his son had become a minister after going to West Point (possibly the Air Force Academy, I don't remember), as promised by President Roosevelt. I had thought Kelly got the Medal of Honor for his action, but I don't think that he did. I do remember President Roosevelt promising that his son would have a place at the US Military Academy on graduation from high school. Now I have to find out if Kelly AFB was named for him or someone else. Thanks Phil, ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:12:31 +0000 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: manrj@att.net Subject: Kelly AFB Message-Id: <20010715141232.PNIH3707.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Our local (Abilene, Texas) newspaper had the following to say: "Kelly was the oldest continuously operating Air Force base in the country having opened in 1916 when aviation was in its infancy. The bas was named for Lt. George E. M. Kelly, the first military pilot killed in a military aircraft crash." I can't attest to the accuracy; however, they occasionally get their facts straight. Bob Maniss ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:10:39 -0400 To: manrj@att.net From: "Philip J. Visconti" Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Kelly AFB Message-ID: <20010715.111040.-356471.0.viscan@juno.com> Bob, And to all that should care. You were correct. The "opening date" was a little off according to Military.com However, the substance of your E-mail was right. When someone complained, to the owner of the local airport, about airplane noise, he said they should go outside and salute the plane for that is the sound of freedom. Thanks Frank for noting something significant to flying. Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:24:49 -0400 To: From: "Sam Sayer" Subject: KR and soob engines Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C10D31.861D24A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello to all on the net: This is my first posting. I am building a KR-2SS from scratch which is 24" longer than the 2S. I plan to use an E81 Soob engine with a belt drive. I subscribe to "Contact magazine" and have both issues of "Alternate Engi= nes" books. I need all the help I can get from all others who are using the Soob engi= ne. I would like to get all the information on other homebuilt intake manifol= ds that are being used and also what radiators are working best. I prefe= r the lost cost radiators. All modifications I can handle. I have for sale an "Eggenfellner Gear Reduction drive" set up for an E81= Soob. Cost $2,195.00 plus shipping USA dollars cash, no checks. A matched starter wi= ll be included at no extra cost. I will be going to the KR-Gathering in Pine Bluff in September and I will= bring the gear drive with me for those interested. I will answer and th= ank all the help I receive. Karibird37@msn.com =20 Sam SayerGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://expl= orer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C10D31.861D24A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:10:40 +0100 To: "krnet user group" From: "macwood" Subject: Re: KR> Starter motor Message-ID: <002d01c10d7b$1245fe40$922c3c3e@tinypc> Thanks for your inputs,re starter motor solenoid. I had a separate starter solenoid for the original Bendix -will this be redundant now or should I keep it in the circuit? Thanks Mac Original Message ----- From: macwood To: krnet user group Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 5:04 PM Subject: KR> Starter motor Am fitting a Subaru starter motor to my Revmaster. The motor has its own solenoid and a separate push-on conector. Where should this be connected to? Thanks in advance - Mac ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:31:01 -0600 To: From: "Shane Daly" Subject: Skip Carden's KR Message-ID: <002901c10d8e$97a0cee0$6b164018@cg.shawcable.net> ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C10D5C.4CAAD160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I have been reading thru the archives and came across a reference to = Skip Carden's KR using retractable gear made from motorcycle forks. Does = anyone have any more info on this or a web site for Skip's KR? Thanks in advance, Shane Daly send e-mail to: f4u5n@home.com ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C10D5C.4CAAD160-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:54:43 -0400 From: David Mullins CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Skip Carden's KR Message-ID: <3B525773.4E65C4A2@mediaone.net> Shane, I believe Skip used Hodaka Motorcycle forks. This is a very small motorcycle. I have looked in a friends motorcycle salvage yard for a standard set of forks. Everything I found was too heavy and I would have to design a way to keep the wheels from rotating around the strut. I settled on a one piece aluminum gear from Grove Aircraft. That plane was at the 1999 Gathering at Lake Barkley. I think I took some photos of the gear but I will have to check my photo archives. Netters, I put together my Rocky Mountain Micro Monitor Friday night. Six hours of soldering. A few more hours to complete the assembly. It fired up the first time. The Monitor has been running for 24 hours on my desk. Tonight I put it into the freezer and tomorrow it goes into the hot box to finish the burn in procedure. I still need to finish the sensors included with the kit. Look for an update with photos on my website in about 2 weeks. Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire http://n323xl.iwarp.com mailto:n323xl@mediaone.net New Email Address: N323XL@mediaone.net Shane Daly wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been reading thru the archives and came across a reference to Skip Carden's KR using retractable gear made from motorcycle forks. Does anyone have any more info on this or a web site for Skip's KR? > > Thanks in advance, > > Shane Daly > send e-mail to: f4u5n@home.com Shane Daly wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been reading thru the archives and came across a reference to Skip Carden's KR using retractable gear made from motorcycle forks. Does anyone have any more info on this or a web site for Skip's KR? > > Thanks in advance, > > Shane Daly > send e-mail to: f4u5n@home.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:18:37 -0500 To: CorvAIRCRAFT , KR-Net From: Mark Jones Subject: William Wynne in Critical Condition Message-ID: <3B524EFC.DA5C144C@execpc.com> Here is the story of yesterday's crash. http://www.sptimes.com/News/071501/TampaBay/Pilot__passenger_inju.shtml -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:45:32 -0400 To: flykr2s@execpc.com From: "Philip J. Visconti" Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> William Wynne in Critical Condition Message-ID: <20010715.234621.-94945.0.viscan@juno.com> Mark, I checked FAA records and James Guldi has registered a "Tailwind" and 2 other planes. Do you know if this is the aircraft they were flying ? Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 06:23:13 -0500 To: KR-Net From: Mark Jones Subject: [Fwd: corvaircraft: William Wynne in Critical Condition] Message-ID: <3B52CEA1.5CB377B3@execpc.com> --------------16D08A977B10BCBCAA677B07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage --------------16D08A977B10BCBCAA677B07 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from b.mx.execpc.com (b.mx.execpc.com [169.207.2.102]) by core0.mx.execpc.com (8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06517 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:07:24 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: Received: from netserver123.otr.usm.edu (netserver123.otr.usm.edu [131.95.82.229]) by b.mx.execpc.com (8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10211 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:07:17 -0500 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by netserver123.otr.usm.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f6G44ol13511 for corvaircraft-outgoing; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:04:50 -0500 Delivered-To: corvaircraft@usm.edu Message-ID: <3B5269E3.9C3ADF39@sierratel.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:13:23 -0700 From: Patrick Panzera Organization: Construction Designs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: corvaircraft@usm.edu, Dragonlist , "Q-LIST@egroups.com" , "VW@lists.kz" Subject: Re: corvaircraft: William Wynne in Critical Condition References: <3B524EFC.DA5C144C@execpc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-corvaircraft@listserv.usm.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: corvaircraft@usm.edu X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 ===============================CorvAIRCRAFT=============================== Mark Jones wrote: > > ===============================CorvAIRCRAFT=============================== > Here is the story of yesterday's crash. > > http://www.sptimes.com/News/071501/TampaBay/Pilot__passenger_inju.shtml PLEASE overnight your well wishes to: William Wynne Tampa General Hospital C-606 Davis Island Tampa FL 33606 Or you might try e-mailing Tampa Hosp. at jstone@tgh.org Be sure to put William Wynne C-606 in the subject. Also if you would, please forward this to the other e-mail lists... KR, Piet, etc. Pat ===============================CorvAIRCRAFT=============================== To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe corvaircraft" to"majordomo@usm.edu" For help send "info corvaircraft" or "help" to "majordomo@usm.edu" --------------16D08A977B10BCBCAA677B07-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************