From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 9 Aug 2001 20:17:11 -0000 Issue 266 Date: Thursday, August 09, 2001 1:17 PM krnet Digest 9 Aug 2001 20:17:11 -0000 Issue 266 Topics (messages 6252 through 6281): Re: Aircraft Log 6252 by: Frank Ross 6257 by: Guenther Bryce Ernst Koppe newsletter archives 6253 by: John Bouyea Open Cockpit KR-1 6254 by: Robert Stone 6255 by: Donald Reid Jeff Scott- first flight 6256 by: Oscar Zuniga Re: Diesel engine 6258 by: xcsoarer.blarg.net 6259 by: patrick james 6260 by: Guenther Bryce 6264 by: Frank Ross diesel on the ramp? 6261 by: CS 6262 by: Frank Ross 6263 by: Mark Langford 6274 by: Richard Parker 6277 by: virgnvs.juno.com Restarts...mid-air... 6265 by: CS 6269 by: Frank Ross great news (personal) 6266 by: w.g. kirkland 6267 by: Frank Ross 6268 by: ROBERT COOPER 6270 by: CS Re: diesels 6271 by: nikki 6273 by: House of D's KR-2 Wanted 6272 by: Kevin Lampon diesel vs. jet fuel 6275 by: CS KRNet shirts 6276 by: Oscar Zuniga Canadian Medicals 6278 by: Rick Blankenship O-200 for sale 6279 by: CS West Coast KR... 6280 by: CS Difference Polyester/Vinnylester 6281 by: Philip J. Visconti Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:06:14 -0700 (PDT) To: PhilKR2S@aol.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Aircraft Log Message-ID: <20010807020614.17664.qmail@web4704.mail.yahoo.com> Phil, Beautiful plane. Congratulations. I don't know the answers to your questions, but, I'm sure someone will soon. Thanks for the picture. Frank --- PhilKR2S@aol.com wrote: > Here is a link to the only picture that I have taken > time to put on the web. > > http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/philkr2s/myhomepage/profile.html?mtbrand=AOL_US > Phil Payne __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:57:06 -0700 (PDT) To: PhilKR2S@aol.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Guenther Bryce Subject: Re: KR> Aircraft Log Message-ID: <20010807175706.58141.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> Phil unless your using a certificated propeller for matching type certificated 0-200 you can count on spending 40 hours to fly time off instead of 25 hours. Bryce Guenther A&P --- PhilKR2S@aol.com wrote: > I'm finishing up on my KR2S after the looong 5+ > years, most of it spent > sanding. I'm getting all of the paperwork together > for the airworthiness > inspection. I have a question about how much > information is needed in the > Aircraft Log when the DAR shows up. > > I have the engine log from the C150 that the O200 > came out of but what > details are needed in the aircraft one? > > I have the blank log purchased from As&S with a lot > of categories. > > Here is a link to the only picture that I have taken > time to put on the web. > > http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/philkr2s/myhomepage/profile.html?mtbrand=AOL_US > > I keep track of krnet by using EScribe since AOL > blocks most of the messages. > I have a lot of business traffic to my other ids so > I can't change now. > > Phil Payne > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 21:52:36 -0700 To: From: "John Bouyea" Subject: Ernst Koppe newsletter archives Message-ID: <001c01c11efc$c7829420$0b00a8c0@bouyea.net> ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C11EC2.1AAA4660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to Mark Langford for sharing the early KR Newsletters! I = downloaded the file and paged through it. This copy appears to = complete. I have enough free space to leave it on my web server = indefinitely. The direct link is: http://www.bouyea.net/digests/kr01-87.pdf If you have problems getting to the site, I'll apologize in advance. = I'm having trouble with my DSL link... Good luck, I'm headed back to the shop! John Bouyea KR2 - N5391M/ in rebuild KR2 - on the gear KR2S - boat stage http://www.bouyea.net john@bouyea.net ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C11EC2.1AAA4660-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 07:52:13 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Open Cockpit KR-1 Message-ID: <000f01c11f3f$e3a18a60$ebd8fea9@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C11F15.DEE66560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters: Has anyone out there built a KR-1 with an open cockpit? Those = of you who knew Ken Rand I am sure know of his convertible KR-1. He = had two canopies. One with the teardrop bubble and the other with the = canopy cut in half where he used the front about 15 inches for a = windshield for summer flying. He could change them in about 5 minutes = by sliding the center wire out of the hinge. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rlspjs@dashlink.com ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C11F15.DEE66560-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:37:01 -0400 To: From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> Open Cockpit KR-1 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010807093607.00a11a60@pop.erols.com> --=====================_5065457==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:52 AM 8/7/2001 -0500, Robert Stone wrote: >Netters: Has anyone out there built a KR-1 with an open cockpit? Those of >you who knew Ken Rand I am sure know of his convertible KR-1. He had two >canopies. One with the teardrop bubble and the other with the canopy cut >in half where he used the front about 15 inches for a windshield for >summer flying. He could change them in about 5 minutes by sliding the >center wire out of the hinge. There is a photo one on my website. Follow the links to the Sport Aviation articles. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org --=====================_5065457==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:52:25 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Jeff Scott- first flight Message-ID: Some of you may remember Jeff Scott, who built and flies a KR-2S out of New Mexico, and who was once on this list. Jeff has just completed the rebuild of an Avid Flyer and made the first flights over the last week or two. The KR's engine is now up to TBO and still runs great... but an engine o'haul is in the works for it. And Jeff is saying something about a new project... a 2-hole, aerobatic biplane??!! So, you see, some folks actually finish these things and fly them! Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:15:38 -0700 (PDT) To: "Daniel Heath" , From: xcsoarer@blarg.net Cc: Subject: Re: KR> Diesel engine Message-Id: <01080711153800.10213@electric.blarg.net> After struggling to (not quite) get the gist of the French description, I discovered that there is an english version, last link on the main page. Much easier... John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:21:22 -0400 To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Marko_Morovi=E6?= , From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Diesel engine Message-ID: <002d01c11e16$1b6237e0$a22d5d0c@scana.com> I don't know about the engine, but what a beautiful plane. Also, I don't speak French, so I could only look at the pictures. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marko Morović" To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: KR> Diesel engine Hello friends! I am KR2S homebuilder from Croatia. I have made contact with people who made DIESELIS in France. In Europe there is a few automotive diesel engine which could be very interested for us. I am thinking all the time about that. Consumption of 6 liters of diesel per hour (very cheap). Please, if you are interested in, visit their web page: http://www.multimania.com/dieselis/ ..... --------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:21:42 -0400 To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Marko_Morovi=E6?= , From: "patrick james" Subject: Re: KR> Diesel engine Message-ID: <00ce01c11f97$b8a30a20$4f4f87d1@default> Well , this is great ... but what's holding up the nearly half dozen diesel engine venders trying to get their products off trailers and engine stands - and into the air ? Seems the latest hitch is the issue of IN - AIR restarts ....can someone please explain why this should be such a problem ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Marko Morović To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: KR> Diesel engine Hello friends! I am KR2S homebuilder from Croatia. I have made contact with people who made DIESELIS in France. In Europe there is a few automotive diesel engine which could be very interested for us. I am thinking all the time about that. Consumption of 6 liters of diesel per hour (very cheap). Please, if you are interested in, visit their web page: http://www.multimania.com/dieselis/ I would love to discuss with you about that . Please your opinions. Your friend, Marko ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:32:49 -0700 (PDT) To: patrick james , "Marko_Morović" , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Guenther Bryce Subject: Re: KR> Diesel engine Message-ID: <20010808003249.15608.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> How many FBO's in the USA sell diesel on the ramp? --- patrick james wrote: > Well , this is great ... but what's holding up the > nearly half dozen diesel > engine venders trying to get their products off > trailers and engine stands - > and into the air ? Seems the latest hitch is the > issue of IN - AIR > restarts ....can someone please explain why this > should be such a problem ? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marko Morović > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 7:46 AM > Subject: KR> Diesel engine > > > > Hello friends! > > I am KR2S homebuilder from Croatia. I have made > contact with people who made > DIESELIS in France. In Europe there is a few > automotive diesel engine which > could be very interested for us. I am thinking all > the time about that. > Consumption of 6 liters of diesel per hour (very > cheap). Please, if you are > interested in, visit their web page: > > http://www.multimania.com/dieselis/ > > I would love to discuss with you about that . Please > your opinions. > > Your friend, > Marko > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > some other system! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:42:36 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Diesel engine Message-ID: <20010808024236.27600.qmail@web4701.mail.yahoo.com> --- patrick james wrote: > IN - AIR > restarts ....can someone please explain why this > should be such a problem ? Patrick, I am not a mechanic and I REALLY don't know a lot about engines. So, naturally, I am fully qualified to answer your question about in-air restarts on diesel engines. Diesel engines are harder to turn over than gasoline engines. Since they don't work on the same principle as gas engines, it takes more power to turn them and that requires a (usually) heavier charging system. I don't know, but, I THINK it would be hard to get one to re-start by just the prop spinning through the air. Right there are two good reasons you probably won't see one on a KR: weight and bulk. Don't think most people would want to try to hand-start a diesel engine either. If a guy had arms that big, he could probably just swing from the trees to get where he wanted to go. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:10:10 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: CS Subject: diesel on the ramp? Message-ID: <20010808021010.1516.qmail@web13901.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, Here's the original question: > > automotive diesel engine which> > could be very interested for us. Here's the (actually, one of many) response: > How many FBO's in the USA sell diesel on the ramp? And here's my take on the issue: Obviously not many (read: none) FBOs sell diesel on the ramp. If you want pure convenience, diesel isn't the way to go. But we are the homebuilt contingent, and as a subset of that we are the KR contingent. KR builders, as was noted in an earlier post, like to find the "cheap" way to do things (except for ML, with his $150,000 or so in "opportunity" and actual costs). I'll usually fly my KR from and to a private (or local non-ATC) strip. Cross-country? I think they make these collapsible fuel-cells, and most (not all, plan ahead) airports have a courtesy car or other means of transportation available. Is diesel readily available? No. Was autogas readily available when Pietenpol first flew his machine? No. But I would hate to think that we had rejected a technology just because it wasn't convenient. I've looked at diesel, just as I'm willing to look at any new technology that holds promise for the homebuilder/experimenter market. If I wasn't willing to look at new stuff, I would have rejected the whole TET airfoil out of hand, because it "didn't come down off the mountain" (as Mark would say). I can't go diesel right now, but my decision has a whole lot more to do with cost than it has to do with "Well, we never done it that way before." As with any new technology, look closely, ask a bunch of questions, look for flying examples, and use your own common sense. If you guess wrong... Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:28:58 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> diesel on the ramp? Message-ID: <20010808022858.10352.qmail@web4703.mail.yahoo.com> --- CS wrote: If you want pure convenience, diesel isn't the way to go. > Chuck Chuck, I have to agree about diesel fuel as far as the US goes, but, it may be different in a lot of places in the world. We're hearing from builders in Africa, South America, Australia, New Zealand, most of Europe and the UK. It may be easier to find diesel fuel in many places than it is to find in the US. Also, can jet fuel be used in diesels? I don't know, so I'm asking. Thanks ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:31:23 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> diesel on the ramp? Message-ID: <00dc01c11fb2$376e9bc0$0100a8c0@cmc3075662a> Chuck wrote: > Obviously not many (read: none) FBOs sell diesel on > the ramp. If you want pure convenience, diesel isn't > the way to go. But we are the homebuilt contingent, > and as a subset of that we are the KR contingent... Yep, but one thing the larger FBOs DO sell is jet fuel. Other than lubricity issues, they are awfully close cousins. I'm not a CE, but from what I can tell, it's not a big deal to interchange the two, certainly to top off the tanks, as well as the occasional tankful. And in most cases, the guys selling diesel aircraft engines make sure they can run JP8 anyway. Some chem-E can probably enlighten us on the gory details. The way things are going, diesel may very well become a whole lot more prevalent, all the way around... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 11:14:01 To: dc9898@yahoo.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> diesel on the ramp? Message-ID: My understanding was that these engine were going to burn Jet A (kerosene) most larger fbo's carry that. Richard Parker >From: CS >To: krnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: KR> diesel on the ramp? >Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:10:10 -0700 (PDT) > >Hi all, > >Here's the original question: > > > > automotive diesel engine which> > could be very >interested for us. > >Here's the (actually, one of many) response: > > > How many FBO's in the USA sell diesel on the ramp? > >And here's my take on the issue: > >Obviously not many (read: none) FBOs sell diesel on >the ramp. If you want pure convenience, diesel isn't >the way to go. But we are the homebuilt contingent, >and as a subset of that we are the KR contingent. KR >builders, as was noted in an earlier post, like to >find the "cheap" way to do things (except for ML, with >his $150,000 or so in "opportunity" and actual costs). > >I'll usually fly my KR from and to a private (or local >non-ATC) strip. Cross-country? I think they make >these collapsible fuel-cells, and most (not all, plan >ahead) airports have a courtesy car or other means of >transportation available. > >Is diesel readily available? No. Was autogas readily >available when Pietenpol first flew his machine? No. >But I would hate to think that we had rejected a >technology just because it wasn't convenient. > >I've looked at diesel, just as I'm willing to look at >any new technology that holds promise for the >homebuilder/experimenter market. If I wasn't willing >to look at new stuff, I would have rejected the whole >TET airfoil out of hand, because it "didn't come down >off the mountain" (as Mark would say). I can't go >diesel right now, but my decision has a whole lot more >to do with cost than it has to do with "Well, we never >done it that way before." > >As with any new technology, look closely, ask a bunch >of questions, look for flying examples, and use your >own common sense. If you guess wrong... > >Chuck > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger >http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:00:32 -0400 To: dc9898@yahoo.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> diesel on the ramp? Message-ID: <20010808.111138.-1049.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Diesel ? How about Jet-A or JP-??, Virg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:11:13 -0700 (PDT) To: Frank Ross , krnet@mailinglists.org From: CS Subject: Restarts...mid-air... Message-ID: <20010808031114.48955.qmail@web13906.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Frank, I'm makin' this one public just cuz it's been put up for discussion, and also no one else knows about the RCFM... Let's assume for a minute that someone's considering a turbo-diesel as a powerplant...so they do all the cost/weight/reliability/maintenance/GPH/ease-of-operation stuff...and they come to... In-air restarts. I'm not saying that this would never be a problem, I'm just wondering how many KRs that have gone in could have been saved by an in-air restart, as opposed to deep stall, structural failure, fuel starvation, and the whole litany of the usual "pilot error" stuff. Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:35:55 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: Restarts...mid-air... Message-ID: <20010808033555.3973.qmail@web4704.mail.yahoo.com> Chuck, I think we're preaching from the same pulpit here. I don't think an in-air restart would factor in too big. I just dont think it will be nearly as easy with a diesel to start in air as a gas engine would. Now what's really important is where you mount your RCFM, and whether you run it on batteries or off your electrical system. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:26:05 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: great news (personal) Message-ID: <003101c11fb9$dc7a54e0$50b45bd1@utboopki> ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C11F98.54316D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Transport Canada medical branch just advised me that they are = prepared to renew my pilots medical. They really have been very = understanding. In addition to having a physical handicap and having had = a heart attack, angioplasty, and a further heart attack over a period of = six years (Dick Cheney eat your heart out) I can still qualify without = any restriction other than that I must do a practical flight test every = year and a heart stress test every year. They originally wanted a stress = test, ecg, heart echo showing an ejection fraction of >50% (has nothing = to do with sex), and another heart echo after a stress test. When I = advised them that the latter was hard to schedule because the local = hospital did not have the proper equippment or the trained techs, they = evaluated the tests I had done and concluded I met their requirements. = Boy are they ever being cooperative! What a great day! Good thing they don't test for mental competence. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C11F98.54316D60-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:29:38 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> great news (personal) Message-ID: <20010808032938.3772.qmail@web4704.mail.yahoo.com> --- "w.g. kirkland" wrote: > The Transport Canada medical branch just advised me > that they are prepared to renew my pilots medical. >What a great day! > Good thing they don't test for mental competence. > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND Congratulations Bill, Does that mean you're going to fly that antique 150 down to the Gathering again this year? Hope to see you there. Are you SURE these were actual government officials you dealt with? It sounds very suspicious. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:30:07 -0700 To: "kirkland" , "krnet" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Re: KR> great news (personal) Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C11F98.E4681140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill Congratulations on the medical. I don't think that the FAA would be so un= derstanding. See you at the gathering. Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.geocities.com/kr2cooper/ Fayetteville, NC. ----- Original Message ----- From: w.g. kirkland Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:20 PM To: krnet Subject: KR> great news (personal) The Transport Canada medical branch just advised me that they are prepare= d to renew my pilots medical. They really have been very understanding. I= n addition to having a physical handicap and having had a heart attack, a= ngioplasty, and a further heart attack over a period of six years (Dick C= heney eat your heart out) I can still qualify without any restriction oth= er than that I must do a practical flight test every year and a heart str= ess test every year. They originally wanted a stress test, ecg, heart ech= o showing an ejection fraction of >50% (has nothing to do with sex), and = another heart echo after a stress test. When I advised them that the latt= er was hard to schedule because the local hospital did not have the prope= r equippment or the trained techs, they evaluated the tests I had done an= d concluded I met their requirements. Boy are they ever being cooperative= ! What a great day! Good thing they don't test for mental competence. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C11F98.E4681140-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:38:58 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet From: CS Subject: great news (personal) Message-ID: <20010808033858.90247.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com> Hey Bill, Great news. Hope they let you fly, dude. As for Cheney....he couldn't pass sh*t, yet he ultimately controls DOT since Dubya is nowhere to be found. > Good thing they don't test for mental competence. Well, you (as the rest of us) shoud keep this private. > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:53:24 -0700 To: From: "nikki" Subject: re: diesels Message-ID: <002b01c11fce$7148b940$0101a8c0@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C11F93.C3EFA2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Diesels are hard to start, especially when cold. most trucks use 2 = batteries,glo plugs. and or an ether injection system. my truck is easy = to start once warmed up. on the plus side they produce power at a lower = rpm, and get way better mileage. id like to see an air-diesel. does = anyone know what these are supposed to weigh? by their nature, diesels = are beefed up to take the operating pressures, so they tend to weigh = more. thanks,Jim ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C11F93.C3EFA2C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 05:33:58 -0500 To: From: "House of D's" Subject: RE: KR> re: diesels Message-ID: All of the diesel posts in this thread seem to assume the use of standard diesel fuels. I know auto conversions, like the original note was referring to, would have a hard time finding a close fuel supply. I seem to remember being told at OSH by one diesel developer that their aviation diesel application would use kerosene (jet fuel). Does anyone know about such research? Darryl -----Original Message----- From: nikki [mailto:synergydesign@sopris.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:53 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> re: diesels Diesels are hard to start, especially when cold. most trucks use 2 batteries,glo plugs. and or an ether injection system. my truck is easy to start once warmed up. on the plus side they produce power at a lower rpm, and get way better mileage. id like to see an air-diesel. does anyone know what these are supposed to weigh? by their nature, diesels are beefed up to take the operating pressures, so they tend to weigh more. thanks,Jim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:32:53 -0800 To: From: "Kevin Lampon" Subject: KR-2 Wanted Message-ID: <001401c11fe4$b9098d20$3e9e48a6@vaio> ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C11FA1.A97E31A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking for KR-2 for sale in the west coast. Kevin ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C11FA1.A97E31A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 07:51:34 -0700 (PDT) To: Mark Langford , krnet@mailinglists.org From: CS Subject: diesel vs. jet fuel Message-ID: <20010808145134.28026.qmail@web13903.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Netters.. Mark L. wrote: > Yep, but one thing the larger FBOs DO sell is jet > fuel. Other than> lubricity issues, they are awfully close cousins. > I'm not a CE, I'm not a CE either (in fact, I'm not even an E), but this one (to my uneducated brain) looks like a piece of cake. If lubricity is the issue, is there not some enterprising entrepreneur (ie, Pennzoil, GM, etc.) out there who could develop an additive which would make jet fuel (in its many variations) an acceptable substitute for diesel? I realize that when it comes to the chemical composition of fuels, things are not as simple as they seem. But in the long-term market (as Mark pointed out), this one seems to have at least as bright a future as anything else on the horizon. Chuck PS...I'm violating my dad's first rule...better to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot, than to open it and confirm the suspicion. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 14:56:59 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KRNet shirts Message-ID: Well, we should have copyrighted the KRNet logo. See if you detect any similarities at http://www.beech18.net/shirts/shirts.htm Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:04:54 -0400 To: From: "Rick Blankenship" Subject: Canadian Medicals Message-ID: <007b01c12023$df0e8720$2b784e0c@ed> ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C12002.5626EEA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters, Good going Bill on your med. I got my medical from a local Doc. pilot = who is on the flying club here as I am. He gave me a middling med. said = I had COPD (not good). I got a copy of the ecg and emailed it to my = cousin in Albuquerque who is a heart lung research guy. He said I didn't = have COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder) but if I keep on = smoking I would. Says something about doctors. He also said that a = static ecg which is all the Gov. requires for a Rec Pilot Permit isn't a = good indication of heart condition just the knowledge that there is one = in there somewhere. Al ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C12002.5626EEA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:36:10 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: CS Subject: O-200 for sale Message-ID: <20010808183610.15265.qmail@web13906.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Netters... Found this ad on barnstormers.com: CONTINENTAL 0-200A • FOR SALE!! 1320 SMOH 3838 TT with logbook Disassembled engine with pull type starter and generator .. no carb .. no mags ... no dents in oil sump / accessory case and other misc external items beadblasted and ready for paint . New gasket and seal kit / connecting rod bolts / other misc washers ... Grown tired of Cassutt project . New pushrods purchased with intent of buying new Milleniums . Complete cylinder assemblies . May use as core or reassemble and run to TBO . Continental overhaul manual included ... $3300 . James 602-993-9654 Phx AZ or e-mail : v1james2003@home.com Contact James Mckenzie located Phoenix AZ USA . Telephone: 602-993-9654. -- Posted 7 August 2001 -- Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser Chuck Buy this, trick it out, and maybe you can catch Marty. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:07:09 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: CS Subject: West Coast KR... Message-ID: <20010808190709.80869.qmail@web13903.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Netters, Somebody posted within the last day or so looking for a KR on the West Coast. I would have replied off-line, but I already deleted the message. Here's the ad: KR-2 PLANS BUILT • FOR SALE!! .. RIGHT FRONT .. RIGHT REAR .. Taildragger, Manual Retract Gear, Mech Brakes, 1835cc Volkswagon Engine (3 hrs New Overhaul), Happy Rear Section (Alternator, Starter), Single Magneto, Dual Intake Heads, Wing and Tail Lights, 13 Gallon Header Fuel Tank, Two 4 Gallon Wing Tanks, Needs Painting and Upholstering, No Avionics, $5500 US Dollars Firm. Contact Bert Foote located Mesa AZ USA. Telephone: 480 835-6016. -- Posted 7 August 2001 -- Show all Ads posted Can be found at: http://www.barnstormers.com/hb000000.html $5500, located in Mesa AZ Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:15:07 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Philip J. Visconti" Subject: Difference Polyester/Vinnylester Message-ID: <20010809.161508.-297429.1.viscan@juno.com> Anyone have knowledge of difference between polyester and vinylester ? I told a friend I was using vinylester for my wings. He wanted to know if vinylester has better adhesive qualities than polyester. If so, he'd like to use it building his "street car". Phil Visconti ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************