From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 6 Sep 2001 03:14:42 -0000 Issue 284 Date: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:15 PM krnet Digest 6 Sep 2001 03:14:42 -0000 Issue 284 Topics (messages 6752 through 6781): Re: composite question 6752 by: Ross Youngblood Re: nose gear 6753 by: Richard Parker 6775 by: Larry A. Capps Intro.. 6754 by: Jeremy Casey 6762 by: Jeremy Casey SCAM ??? 6755 by: Philip J. Visconti 6756 by: Sam Sayer 6757 by: gleone 6758 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER 6759 by: ron 6761 by: BillStarrs 6763 by: Philip J. Visconti 6766 by: Ralph H Snyder 6771 by: CHOCTAWCWR.aol.com 6773 by: virgnvs.juno.com 6774 by: macwood Re: flow lines? 6760 by: Guenther Bryce Landing gear thoughts 6764 by: Edwin Blocher KRNet shirts 6765 by: Oscar Zuniga Where to put CHT and EGT probes? 6767 by: Serge F. VIDAL 6768 by: Donald Reid 6778 by: Ross Youngblood CHT/EGT probes 6769 by: bob_lee.juno.com 6770 by: ron 6779 by: Ross Youngblood test 6772 by: Larry Wayne Williams Re: the story of ken and jeanette rand 6776 by: Ross Youngblood Admin Woes : Foul Mouth 6777 by: Ross Youngblood lights 6780 by: Tim Brown Plane Pool 6781 by: John & Elaine Roffey Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 22:30:34 -0700 To: drewlive@prodigy.net From: Ross Youngblood CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> composite question Message-ID: <3B9466FA.E618DEAB@home.com> Drew, I got my data from the Aircraft Spruce catalog, plus, I only did my upper deck, and turtledeck in Kevlar. Should have done the cowling too, but Kevlar is expensive. There are two weaves that ACS sells, one is a fine weave and is very light, and the other is a course weave. The fine weave is as strong as glass in a single ply, but I found I needed two plys, and even then it was too flexible without re-enforcement on my fwd deck. The thicker weave worked well on my aft deck, I used a single ply, but had some significant overlap so there is a good 30% area of two ply on the aft deck. I would be careful with substituting Kevlar for the entire structure, it doesn't wet out as good as glass, however aeropoxy ended up working well with it. The bond between the spar caps and the Kevlar will be very important, in my humble opinion, if you decide to do wings. If you really want to save weight, buy the wing skins. I bet they might end up as light as a hand lay-up Kevlar, and you save sanding. -- Regards Ross drewlive@prodigy.net wrote: > > I have decided to use Kevlar to save some weight, but I know idea how > much to use. It's been a week since I have emailed DuPont and haven't > resieved a reply. > > Ok, I was going to make a 3ply, 8oz, Bi-directional, glass fabric. I > know what the specs are for the glass. What I don't know is how > should I do the Kevlar. Do I need to keep it 3ply, or can I use 2 or > even 1 ply? There seems to be three styles that I can find, all of > which are stronger than glass. Is it ok to use the 1.5 oz on place of > the 8oz glass or shoul I stick with the 5 oz. > > Really what I am trying to say does any one know a good site that can > help me convert from glass to Kevlar? > > Drew > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 13:17:59 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> nose gear Message-ID: I looked into the Pulsar gear as a friend of mine was building one. I belive the mains from pulsar are around $800 plus they also need another 22 or so layers of glass added to them. The company has changed hands since Skystar (Kitfox mfr.) couldnt make anything happen with it. Richard Parker >From: michael beck >To: "w.g. kirkland" , Doherty Al >, krnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: Re: KR> nose gear >Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 19:46:14 -0700 (PDT) > >I was trying to buy the gear from Pulsar, and they >seemed willing to sell, but we got out of contact. >Their email is info@pulsaraircraft.com >Mike Beck > >--- "w.g. kirkland" wrote: > > I am in a similar situation. Would you include me in > > ur responses. > > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Doherty Al" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 8:02 PM > > Subject: KR> nose gear > > > > > > > I want to install a nose gear on my KR2.It has the > > > soob engine with an oil pan hanging below. The > > gear > > > has to be really light weight. > > > Has anyone got suggestions as to types available? > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at > > http://mail.yahoo.ca > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > , or "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > > some other system! > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > > or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > > some other system! > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger >http://im.yahoo.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:08:22 -0500 To: From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: nose gear Message-ID: <000c01c13670$6d0ba000$0500a8c0@24.181.195.150> Grove Aircraft has developed an aluminum gear retrofit kit for the Pulsar. http://www.groveaircraft.com/pulsarr.html Constructed from 2024-T6 aluminum with formed 4130 steel mounting brackets. This is a great improvement over the stock gear. Available as a one piece gear for new built aircraft or a spliced two piece gear for easy retrofit. Gross Weight: 1200 lbs. Gear Weight: 21.0 lbs. Material: 2024 T-6 Aluminum Axle Type: Various One Piece Pulsar Retrofit Kit P/N 1191-3...Price: $700 Two Piece Pulsar Retrofit Kit P/N 1192-1...Price: $750 Blue Skies, Larry A. Capps -----Original Message----- Pulsar gear mains from pulsar are around $800 plus they also need another 22 or so layers of glass added to them. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 09:48:29 -0400 To: "Krnet" From: "Jeremy Casey" Subject: Intro.. Message-ID: Don't want to bore the list just saying, hey...been lurking for about a week and am thinking about a KR as a "go fast" plane as my current flying is all "low and slow". (Have taken my "no doors" Challenger to 12500' with shorts on...just a touch chilly...) I fly a Challenger 2 place ultralight and am finishing up a Kolb Mark 3 which will have a Rotax 912S. Anyway, next plane will be a little speedier for sure. I also thought I would drop a link to some good flying pictures that a couple of Kolb pilots took on a recent "little jaunt" around the western US...(remembering that they are cruising at about 65-70 mph then El Paso to Oregon and back via California is a serious "little" trip!!! Go here... http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/oregon.htm Great scenery. This lists own Chuck Scrivner met these fellows. He shot a little air to air with them...Proof positive that a KR CAN FLY SLOW...since he was able to get in formation with these guys. Anyway sorry for the intrusion...I am gleaning a ton of good info from this list and the many great websites associated with the people on this list. One great plus for building a KR is the great builders group associated with it...keep it up... Jeremy Casey Challenger C2 flyer Kolb Mark 3 builder KR2S considerer jrcasey@ldl.net Resident of Phenix City, Al. webpage at: http://jrcasey.home.mindspring.com/home.htm and at: http://jrcasey.homestead.com/start.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:16:35 -0400 To: "Krnet" , "Guenther Bryce" From: "Jeremy Casey" Subject: RE: KR> Intro.. Message-ID: Guenther and list, As much as I would love to do a trip like that I was not the intrepid aviator who did it. The two fellows were Will Uribe and Dave Rains. Both of El Paso, Texas. Sorry to clutter the list down with this off topic stuff but I didn't want to unintentionally (by oversight) take credit for a accomplishment I didn't make...I intended just a side note to a quick introduction, that would get the pilot juices flowing with a few good pictures (I tend to forget what the goal is sometimes amid all those hours in the workshop...pictures like that help to remind me) Sorry for the intrusion... Jeremy Casey jrcasey@ldl.net -----Original Message----- From: Guenther Bryce [mailto:guentheraviator@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:58 PM To: Jeremy Casey Subject: Re: KR> Intro.. Thanks for sharing your Kolb adventure I sent it to a local Kolb flier for him to enjoy. Bryce Guenther KR2 builder/owner --- Jeremy Casey wrote: > Don't want to bore the list just saying, hey...been > lurking for about a week > and am thinking about a KR as a "go fast" plane as > my current flying is all > "low and slow". (Have taken my "no doors" > Challenger to 12500' with shorts > on...just a touch chilly...) I fly a Challenger 2 > place ultralight and am > finishing up a Kolb Mark 3 which will have a Rotax > 912S. Anyway, next plane > will be a little speedier for sure. I also thought > I would drop a link to > some good flying pictures that a couple of Kolb > pilots took on a recent > "little jaunt" around the western US...(remembering > that they are cruising > at about 65-70 mph then El Paso to Oregon and back > via California is a > serious "little" trip!!! Go here... > http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/oregon.htm > Great scenery. This lists own Chuck Scrivner met > these fellows. He shot a > little air to air with them...Proof positive that a > KR CAN FLY SLOW...since > he was able to get in formation with these guys. > Anyway sorry for the > intrusion...I am gleaning a ton of good info from > this list and the many > great websites associated with the people on this > list. One great plus for > building a KR is the great builders group associated > with it...keep it up... > > Jeremy Casey > Challenger C2 flyer > Kolb Mark 3 builder > KR2S considerer > > jrcasey@ldl.net > > Resident of Phenix City, Al. > > webpage at: > http://jrcasey.home.mindspring.com/home.htm > > and at: > http://jrcasey.homestead.com/start.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > some other system! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:29:01 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Philip J. Visconti" Subject: SCAM ??? Message-ID: <20010904.112902.-203577.1.viscan@juno.com> I just received an E-mail from Ado Mohammed who claims to be a General Manager at the Union Bank of Nigeria. Lagos. He's asked for my help to aquire MILLIONS OF US DOLLARS from an Unclaimed Account and he'll reward me. ALL he wants is my phone number and fax number. Has anyone else received this ? Is someone monitoring krnet to get E-mail addresses ? Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:45:13 -0400 To: "Philip J. Visconti" , "KR Mailing Lists" From: "Sam Sayer" Subject: Re: KR> SCAM ??? Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C13537.0F3528A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't buy it. He will reverse the phone charges to your home phone as we= ll your fax. This surely is a hoax. =20 =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Philip J. Visconti Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:31 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> SCAM ??? =20 I just received an E-mail from Ado Mohammed who claims to be a General Manager at the Union Bank of Nigeria. Lagos. He's asked for my help to aquire MILLIONS OF US DOLLARS from an Unclaimed Account and he'll reward me. ALL he wants is my phone number and fax number. Has anyone else received this ? Is someone monitoring krnet to get E-mail addresses ? Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system!Get = more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C13537.0F3528A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 09:59:37 -0600 To: Sam Sayer From: gleone CC: "Philip J. Visconti" , KR Mailing Lists Subject: Re: KR> SCAM ??? Message-ID: <3B94FA69.DFDBAB34@tritel.net> --------------DA297408C400230B98B00559 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A neighbor of mine received an e-mail of the type you're talking about. First, stop thinking in terms of greed. You'll only end up burning yourself. Yes, it is a scam: a scam that preys on greed and people who think they're going to get something for nothing. My neighbor sent me a copy of their e-mail and I sent it off to the FBI. The response I received follows: "Dear Mr. Leone, Your May 5th communication to the FBI, enclosing a solicitation of your neighbor received from an individual from Nigeria, has been brought to my attention. The FBI is aware of numerous individuals and businesses throughout the country which have been contacted via the United States mail or the Internet by individuals in Nigeria who allegedly want to transfer money out of that country. Contacts with government officials in Nigeria have revealed that the mailing of such letters to individuals or businesses in the United Starts is the first phase of an advance-fee scheme. There have been instances when Americans have responded to letters received, and they have been told that funds would be transferred out of Nigeria if they would pay, in advance, a $50,000 transfer tax. We are aware of several United States victims, and in theses instances, investigations are being pursued relating to this activity. Your interest in providing this information to the FBI is appreciated. Sincerely yours, John E. Collingwood Assistant Director Office of Public and Congressional Affairs" Common sense should tell you this is a scam, but don't take my word for it, send off your solicitation to the FBI and you'll get a similar response. Sam Sayer wrote: > Don't buy it. He will reverse the phone charges to your home phone as well your fax. > This surely is a hoax. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Philip J. Visconti > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:31 AM > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> SCAM ??? > > I just received an E-mail from Ado Mohammed who claims to be a General > Manager at the Union Bank of Nigeria. Lagos. He's asked for my help to > aquire MILLIONS OF US DOLLARS from an Unclaimed Account and he'll reward > me. ALL he wants is my phone number and fax number. > > Has anyone else received this ? Is someone monitoring krnet to get E-mail > addresses ? > > Phil > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system!Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com --------------DA297408C400230B98B00559-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:36:26 -0500 To: "KRNET" , "Philip J. Visconti" From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: RE: KR> SCAM ??? Message-ID: Well, we could use the millions to fund the net. Would they take suplus plane parts? Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Philip J. Visconti [mailto:viscan@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 10:29 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> SCAM ??? I just received an E-mail from Ado Mohammed who claims to be a General Manager at the Union Bank of Nigeria. Lagos. He's asked for my help to aquire MILLIONS OF US DOLLARS from an Unclaimed Account and he'll reward me. ALL he wants is my phone number and fax number. Has anyone else received this ? Is someone monitoring krnet to get E-mail addresses ? Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:29:44 -0700 To: , "Philip J. Visconti" From: "ron " Subject: Re: KR> SCAM ??? Message-Id: <200109041029.AA85197110@jrl-engineering.com> Yes, it's a SCAM. This one is atleast a year old. I recieved something similar from the same location addressed to my company J.R.L. Engineering Consortium, I guess they have worked their way down the food chain to individuals. KRron ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Philip J. Visconti" Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:29:01 -0400 >I just received an E-mail from Ado Mohammed who claims to be a General >Manager at the Union Bank of Nigeria. Lagos. He's asked for my help to >aquire MILLIONS OF US DOLLARS from an Unclaimed Account and he'll reward >me. ALL he wants is my phone number and fax number. > >Has anyone else received this ? Is someone monitoring krnet to get E-mail >addresses ? > >Phil >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:58:35 -0700 To: , "Philip J. Visconti" From: "BillStarrs" Subject: Re: KR> SCAM ??? Message-ID: <000d01c13573$99d0e580$02defea9@bstarrs> That is a SCAM without A DOUBT. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE IN sOUTH dAKOTA WHO FELL FOR IT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip J. Visconti" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 8:29 AM Subject: KR> SCAM ??? > I just received an E-mail from Ado Mohammed who claims to be a General > Manager at the Union Bank of Nigeria. Lagos. He's asked for my help to > aquire MILLIONS OF US DOLLARS from an Unclaimed Account and he'll reward > me. ALL he wants is my phone number and fax number. > > Has anyone else received this ? Is someone monitoring krnet to get E-mail > addresses ? > > Phil > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:14:52 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Philip J. Visconti" Subject: SCAM??? Message-ID: <20010904.161453.-369649.0.viscan@juno.com> Would it be possible to send an A-bomb to these scam artist in Nigeria/Lagos ? Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:09:00 -0700 To: ron@jrl-engineering.com From: Ralph H Snyder Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org, viscan@juno.com Subject: Re: KR> SCAM ??? Message-ID: <20010904.222727.-433829.0.ralphndori@juno.com> I also received one. The next step is to get your bank account number so they can transfer the money. The only problem is the money will just go out of your account, not in it. The best response is DELETE. Ralph Snyder On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:29:44 -0700 "ron " writes: > Yes, it's a SCAM. This one is atleast a year old. I recieved > something similar from the same location addressed to my company > J.R.L. Engineering Consortium, I guess they have worked their way > down the food chain to individuals. > > KRron > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Philip J. Visconti" > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:29:01 -0400 > > >I just received an E-mail from Ado Mohammed who claims to be a > General > >Manager at the Union Bank of Nigeria. Lagos. He's asked for my > help to > >acquire MILLIONS OF US DOLLARS from an Unclaimed Account and he'll > reward > >me. ALL he wants is my phone number and fax number. > > > >Has anyone else received this ? Is someone monitoring krnet to get > E-mail > >addresses ? > > > >Phil > >________________________________________________________________ > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply > all" > > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other > system! > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other > system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:29:31 EDT To: ralphndori@juno.com, ron@jrl-engineering.com From: CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com CC: krnet@mailinglists.org, viscan@juno.com Subject: Re: KR> SCAM ??? Message-ID: <67.1944c43f.28c774ab@aol.com> --part1_67.1944c43f.28c774ab_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit , some of these people were busted in houston because someone took the time to report the scam --part1_67.1944c43f.28c774ab_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 23:07:07 -0400 To: viscan@juno.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> SCAM ??? Message-ID: <20010905.105146.-492407.0.virgnvs@juno.com> SS CC AA MM !! Virg On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:29:01 -0400 "Philip J. Visconti" writes: > I just received an E-mail from Ado Mohammed who claims to be a > General > Manager at the Union Bank of Nigeria. Lagos. He's asked for my help > to > aquire MILLIONS OF US DOLLARS from an Unclaimed Account and he'll > reward > me. ALL he wants is my phone number and fax number. > > Has anyone else received this ? Is someone monitoring krnet to get > E-mail > addresses ? > > Phil > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other > system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:26:39 +0100 To: From: "macwood" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> SCAM ??? Message-ID: <001c01c1361f$3fd208a0$422f3c3e@tinypc> This Nigerian scam has been going off and on over here in the UK for the last 10 years,and although it gets plenty of media time people still get caught. What gas can I use in my Revmaster(compression reduced to 8:1)now I can't get 100ll ? Cheers Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:29 PM Subject: Re: KR> SCAM ??? > , some of these people were busted in houston because someone took the time > to report the scam > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:07:21 -0700 (PDT) To: svidal@icon.co.za, Mark Langford , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Guenther Bryce Subject: RE: KR> flow lines? Message-ID: <20010904180721.16527.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Serge Your Observation of flow line. To elaborate a little, those flow lines are not necessarily representative of cruise conditions! If tuffs where mounted to the surface and visibly matched the flow lines in flight that proves your point. The potential for erronious conclusions is possible because oil lines could be generated more in some other flight condition. Bryce Guenther --- "Serge F. VIDAL" wrote: > Dear Mark, > > On mine, the only exit point for oil leaks is the > bottom of the engine > cowling (there is a gap of about 15cm between the > cowling end and the > firewall, for air exit and the exhaust pipes). > > Most of the oil goes from there straight to the > junction between the > fuselage and the left hand leading edge. The rest > spreads under the > fuselage, up to the tail. > > Serge VIDAL > KR2 ZS-WEC > Johannesburg, South Africa > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Langford [mailto:langford@hiwaay.net] > Sent: 04 September, 2001 4:53 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: KR> flow lines? > > KRNetHeads, > > I just visited Jim Hill's hangar tonight (he made > the mistake of leaving me > a key) to look at his Revmaster cowling inlets, > among other things. I > noticed that there were some very interesting oil > flowlines coming OUT of > the outboard edges of the inlets, headed for the > rear of the plane. They > went straight back for the length of the cowling, > and then turned downward > in an exaggerated airfoil flowline to the trailing > edge. I also noticed > that there were some lines on the tail that > indicated the flow was diverging > back there. I learned a lot from the few lines that > I could discern, which > made me wonder what the rest of you guys had noticed > about the flowlines on > your planes. Anybody care to share observations > that you've noticed? > > I can't wait to have a plane that I can cover with > soot on a dew covered > morning to get some REAL information... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > some other system! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > some other system! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:18:38 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Edwin Blocher" Cc: "corvaircraft" Subject: Landing gear thoughts Message-ID: <000a01c135a0$50a7d3a0$928c31cc@cyou.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C13576.6692E300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's quiet today so I would like some feedback. My KR2S with a Corvair = engine needs ro know what kind of gear I'm going to put on it. I have my = main gear legs (Grove) which I can mount behind the front spar for a tri = gear or in front of the spar for a taildragger. It looks like all my = flying will be from paved strips. At 3:00 AM this morning I had a dream, = why not retract the nose gear like the Eze's and gain a couple of knots. = Am I crazy or what? I think it could be done but it sure would make a = mess if you didnt lower it at the proper time. My project is still in = storage until November so I have time. Hope to see a lot of you around = the beer truck. ED Ed Blocher Crestview, FL Blocher@cyou.com ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C13576.6692E300-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 02:47:18 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KRNet shirts Message-ID: Hello, folks; Well, I'm officially out of the KRNet shirt business. And caps, and coffee mugs too. I'm sending it all to Tommy Waymack, as part of the upcoming KR Gathering in Pine Bluff. Not sure whether Tommy will set the stuff up as door prizes, raffle, sale, or for target practice- but it's all headed south. To those who purchased items from me over the past several years, thanks! I didn't make any money, but sure had a good time and made a lot of friends. Even the guy at the shirt place liked the KRNet logo so much that he has one of our polo shirts up on his display wall at his store in the mall, as an example of custom work they do. Tommy will have 9 polo shirts in various sizes from Small to XLarge, plus 4 mugs and maybe half-dozen caps, all with the KRNet logo on them. If you want one, you'll have to go to the Gathering! Since we'll be moving come January or so, I was looking to get some stuff out of my garage, and it sure wasn't doing me any good sitting there. I have donated a couple of items for door prizes the last few years, so this year I decided to supply these items as a contribution to help make it a bit more interesting. I realize that not everybody knows or cares about KRNet, so I'm not sure if some attendees will care to have one of these even if it's given to them, but that's my 2 cents' worth anyway. Y'all have fun down there. I know I'm going to make it one of these years. Maybe the year Langford gets his -2S flying and I get a ride in it? I'd love to be the one in the right seat when Mark sneaks past Marty in a head-to-head showdown ;o) Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:25:55 +0200 To: From: "Serge F. VIDAL" Subject: Where to put CHT and EGT probes? Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C135F5.25C7DF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, all! I will soon put a combined CHT + EGT gauge in my KR2. Having only one set of probes, and having a Type 4 Vokswagen, I want to put the probes on the hottest cylinder. I think it is going to be the one that is least cooled. Should be the rear one, on the right hand side, where the oil cooler is. Any flaw in my reasoning? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C135F5.25C7DF40-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 05:42:14 -0400 To: From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> Where to put CHT and EGT probes? Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010905053821.00a0a520@pop.erols.com> --=====================_1212842==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >I will soon put a combined CHT + EGT gauge in my KR2. Having only one set of >probes, and having a Type 4 Vokswagen, I want to put the probes on the >hottest cylinder. I think it is going to be the one that is least cooled. >Should be the rear one, on the right hand side, where the oil cooler is. There are no hard and fast rules since every installation is different; however, in a typical pressure cowling, the front cylinders will receive less airflow. This sounds counter-intuitive but it is true. In order to find the hottest, you need to check all of them. In addition, there is no assurance that the peak CHT and peak EGT will be on the same cylinder. Swap them around and check. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org --=====================_1212842==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 19:39:45 -0700 From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: svidal@icon.co.za, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Where to put CHT and EGT probes? Message-ID: <3B96E1F1.F5C1FB82@home.com> Serge, This is where I placed my probe... I actually did some research and belive the KRnetters and VW folks indicated this was the correct location, but I don't recall where I got the information. I have a Type I VW 1835cc. -- Ross "Serge F. VIDAL" wrote: > Hi, all! > > I will soon put a combined CHT + EGT gauge in my KR2. Having only one set of > probes, and having a Type 4 Vokswagen, I want to put the probes on the > hottest cylinder. I think it is going to be the one that is least cooled. > Should be the rear one, on the right hand side, where the oil cooler is. > > Any flaw in my reasoning? > > Serge VIDAL > KR2 ZS-WEC > Johannesburg, South Africa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:47:43 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: bob_lee@juno.com Subject: CHT/EGT probes Message-ID: <20010905.184743.197.27.bob_lee@juno.com> In my installation I added a four position rotary switch for EGT and CHT and put a probe on each cylinder. That way you can check all cylinders. Bob Lee ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 05:00:30 -0700 To: , From: "ron " Subject: Re: KR> CHT/EGT probes Message-Id: <200109050500.AA169214142@jrl-engineering.com> It can't be any type switch. It must be a switch made for switching thermocouples[ very low resistance with same contact materials ]. Any other switch will introduce errors in the display because of the resistance added. KRron ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: bob_lee@juno.com Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:47:43 -0400 >In my installation I added a four position rotary switch for EGT and CHT >and put a probe on each cylinder. That way you can check all cylinders. > >Bob Lee >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 19:45:27 -0700 From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: ron@jrl-engineering.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> CHT/EGT probes Message-ID: <3B96E347.67B50C55@home.com> I'm thinking that the same material issue is probably more important that contact resistance. If I recall the thermocouples generate very small currents due to the dissimilar materials at the junction/sensor end. ACS has a switch setup I think they get from Westach or whomever does the EGT/CHT steam gauge instrument. http://www.omega.com (I think) is Omega Engineering, they probably made the thermocouples. You can get thermocouples very inexpensively from them, but I'm not sure these are compatable with the instrument. I expect they may have low resistance switches. ron wrote: > It can't be any type switch. It must be a switch made for switching thermocouples[ very low resistance with same contact materials ]. Any other switch will introduce errors in the display because of the resistance added. > > KRron > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: bob_lee@juno.com > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:47:43 -0400 > > >In my installation I added a four position rotary switch for EGT and CHT > >and put a probe on each cylinder. That way you can check all cylinders. > > > >Bob Lee > >________________________________________________________________ > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > >Join Juno today! 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Youngblood" CC: Robert Stone , Flymaca711689@cs.com, Wayland T Stokes , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> the story of ken and jeanette rand Message-ID: <3B96DD68.CD65B633@home.com> Thanks Bob, for adding some additional information. I met one gentleman who took a ride with Ken, and when he landed Ken said somthing to the effect of "whew, I wasn't sure we had enough fuel for that trip". The guy was sort of wondering about someone who would fly local and be concerned about fuel quantity. There is another KR story in EAA experimenter about the first KR-2 trip to Oshkosh, seems the ran out of battery power for fuel transfer and ran the header tank dry and did a forced landing. Sport Aviation indicated that this gave everyone the opportunity to learn how to fix these new "glass" planes. I think it indicates to me that Ken was pretty comfortable flying his KR. Perhaps a bit too comfortable. Robert Stone wrote: > Netters: The truth of the matter is as Janet Rand says. Prior to leaving > Texas for the trip home to California, Ken did not file a flight plan nor > did he check the weather or he would have known about the headwinds over the > mountains. Being unaware of the headwinds he miss calculated his fuel > thinking he had enough to cross the mountains and land for fuel on the other > side. This was typical of Ken and every one who him knew that some day his > negligence might cause a serious problem which in the end it did. My wife > and myself were waiting at Meadowlark airport in Huntington Beach that day > to greet him on his return. We were also a part of the search party after > the accident. > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx > rlspjs@dashlink.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayland T Stokes" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: KR> the story of ken and jeanette rand > > > Talk to Jenette sometime she tells it just a little different. She says > > he ran out of gas. Turned back to Big Bear and didnt have enough fuel, > > talked to ground control all the way down. > > > > Tom Stokes > > Pine Bluff AR > > tomstokes1@juno.com or tomstokes1@aol.com > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 19:36:23 -0700 From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: bob_lee@juno.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Admin Woes : Foul Mouth Message-ID: <3B96E127.B6E3EB25@home.com> Actually, poor Mark Langford is in charge of this and actually does a much better job at it than I used to do. If you are caught up, you may know the guy was pulled already. I'm replying to ALL, just to thank Mark for the terrific job he is doing. -- Regards Ross bob_lee@juno.com wrote: > Dear Mr. Krnet-admin, > > Is that you Rossy? We need to pull this guy's ticket! It's ok to get > mad but that doesnt give one liscence to be uncivilized. Take this guy > out of the net's authorized list of participants please. > > Regards, > > Bob Lee > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:04:33 -0700 (PDT) To: Group KR NET From: Tim Brown Subject: lights Message-ID: <20010906030433.90588.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Dear Net: I've got a sortof survey question here. Though somewhat premature for me at this point in time, I have begun to think about lights. I notice that the Whelan system for wingtips which include tail, red/green, and strobe plus power supplies etc run about $900.00. Anyone have a good source at a lesser price? Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 23:12:53 -0400 To: From: "John & Elaine Roffey" Subject: Plane Pool Message-ID: <004601c13681$d28076c0$bb8828d8@default> ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C13660.4A517FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a general call to anyone in the Great lakes area who might be = interested in flying to the Gathering. I am located in the Detroit area of Michigan (Port Huron) and have been = planning to fly to the Gathering with two KR builders from Canada who = have let me know that they will be passing on the Gathering this year. If I can get two people who are interested, I will fly to Pine Bluff. = Contact me off the net at jeroffey@tir.com for further information. 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