From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 2 Nov 2001 23:01:44 -0000 Issue 316 Date: Friday, November 02, 2001 3:02 PM krnet Digest 2 Nov 2001 23:01:44 -0000 Issue 316 Topics (messages 7432 through 7454): trim servo 7432 by: larry flesner Re: Flying squirrels... 7433 by: Guenther Bryce 7434 by: Edwin Blocher 7435 by: BillStarrs 7439 by: Frank Ross 7440 by: Timothy Bellville 7442 by: Kobus de Wet 7443 by: Laheze.aol.com 7444 by: Schomas William Civ 479 FTG Lear Siegler Services 7445 by: Benjamin Knorr 7452 by: Edwin Blocher Engine and panel instruments for sale 7436 by: bill thomas Loose wires and cables 7437 by: Darren Pond 7438 by: Tim Brown 7441 by: larry flesner 7448 by: Serge VIDAL Re: Flaming squirrels...and Flight Safety 7446 by: Stuart Deal 7449 by: Garland, Norm F B. Thomas 7447 by: doug c boyd 7450 by: Jim Sellars KR project for sale 7451 by: brodc.att.net EA-81 for sale at Barnstormers.com 7453 by: CS Cont A65 forSale 7454 by: Darren Pond Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:01:22 -0600 To: KR-Net From: larry flesner Subject: trim servo Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011031070122.008865d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Netters, Anyone have a trim servo assembly they would like to part with? E-mail me off net with info and price. Thanks, Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:42:13 -0800 (PST) To: "w.g. kirkland" , bob , Mark Langford , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Guenther Bryce Subject: Re: KR> Flying squirrels... Message-ID: <20011031214213.2364.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> I wonder if the National symbol protected species the EAGLE being stuffed by our own Coast Guard people is a common practice. I certainly am appauled that happened and the people who did that should be court martialed. I have soared many times with eagles in hang gliders and find them very noble creations and the honor they depict certainly must have been evaded by the Coast Guard. My hopes of flying my KR someday are being erroded in America by the fact that our military personel having discraced our symbol of freedom the Eagle have also discraced each pilots rights to fly by a character of behavior over the years that has brought general aviation into the same grouping as military in the public eye. To put it simply our military heritage have brought the whole aviation industry under such scrutany that the publics image of aviation is like what those sea gull did to that Coast Guard stuffed Eagle. General Aviation is the "Eagle" and military is what those gull s where full of. Bryce Guenther KR builder/owner American --- "w.g. kirkland" wrote: > The heli pad at the Coast Guard base where I worked > had a problem with sea > (herring ) gulls until they put out a stuffed eagle. > The gulls where > terrified at first. After a couple of days they just > shit all over the eagle > and the experiment ended. > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bob" > To: "Mark Langford" ; > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:03 PM > Subject: Re: KR> goin' out on a limb here... > > > > Hi Mark, The lovely little beast are VERY afraid > of owls. My wife and I > > were entertained by flying squirrels for several > years and someone told me > > to put a plastic owl in the tree next to the > house, IT WORKED and I > didn't > > have to deal with my wife about shooting a > protected species. . . .(at > least > > protected buy my soft hearted wife) ;0) I do > miss the bowling in the > > attic though. Good luck > > > > Bob > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > , or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > some other system! > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > some other system! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:41:32 -0600 To: "Guenther Bryce" , "w.g. kirkland" , "bob" , "Mark Langford" , From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> Flying squirrels... Message-ID: <001801c16265$93badb00$aa9131cc@cyou.com> And you are full of it too! Think before you speak (like I do). :-) Ed Ed Blocher Crestview, FL Blocher@cyou.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Guenther Bryce To: w.g. kirkland ; bob ; Mark Langford ; Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:42 PM Subject: Re: KR> Flying squirrels... > I wonder if the National symbol protected species the > EAGLE being stuffed by our own Coast Guard people is a > common practice. I certainly am appauled that happened > and the people who did that should be court martialed. > I have soared many times with eagles in hang gliders > and find them very noble creations and the honor they > depict certainly must have been evaded by the Coast > Guard. > My hopes of flying my KR someday are being erroded in > America by the fact that our military personel having > discraced our symbol of freedom the Eagle have also > discraced each pilots rights to fly by a character of > behavior over the years that has brought general > aviation into the same grouping as military in the > public eye. To put it simply our military heritage > have brought the whole aviation industry under such > scrutany that the publics image of aviation is like > what those sea gull did to that Coast Guard stuffed > Eagle. General Aviation is the "Eagle" and military is > what those gull s where full of. Bryce Guenther KR > builder/owner American > > > > > > > --- "w.g. kirkland" wrote: > > The heli pad at the Coast Guard base where I worked > > had a problem with sea > > (herring ) gulls until they put out a stuffed eagle. > > The gulls where > > terrified at first. After a couple of days they just > > shit all over the eagle > > and the experiment ended. > > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "bob" > > To: "Mark Langford" ; > > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:03 PM > > Subject: Re: KR> goin' out on a limb here... > > > > > > > Hi Mark, The lovely little beast are VERY afraid > > of owls. My wife and I > > > were entertained by flying squirrels for several > > years and someone told me > > > to put a plastic owl in the tree next to the > > house, IT WORKED and I > > didn't > > > have to deal with my wife about shooting a > > protected species. . . .(at > > least > > > protected buy my soft hearted wife) ;0) I do > > miss the bowling in the > > > attic though. Good luck > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > , or "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > > some other system! > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > > or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > > some other system! > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:31:59 -0700 To: "KR-net" From: "BillStarrs" Subject: Fw: KR> Flying squirrels... Message-ID: <001a01c1626c$a1260ce0$02defea9@bstarrs> Lighten up Gunther I'm sure the bird was dead when it was stuffed and that the Coast Guard did not kill it the first place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guenther Bryce" To: "w.g. kirkland" ; "bob" ; "Mark Langford" ; Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 2:42 PM Subject: Re: KR> Flying squirrels... > I wonder if the National symbol protected species the > EAGLE being stuffed by our own Coast Guard people is a > common practice. I certainly am appauled that happened > and the people who did that should be court martialed. > I have soared many times with eagles in hang gliders > and find them very noble creations and the honor they > depict certainly must have been evaded by the Coast > Guard. > My hopes of flying my KR someday are being erroded in > America by the fact that our military personel having > discraced our symbol of freedom the Eagle have also > discraced each pilots rights to fly by a character of > behavior over the years that has brought general > aviation into the same grouping as military in the > public eye. To put it simply our military heritage > have brought the whole aviation industry under such > scrutany that the publics image of aviation is like > what those sea gull did to that Coast Guard stuffed > Eagle. General Aviation is the "Eagle" and military is > what those gull s where full of. Bryce Guenther KR > builder/owner American > > > > > > > --- "w.g. kirkland" wrote: > > The heli pad at the Coast Guard base where I worked > > had a problem with sea > > (herring ) gulls until they put out a stuffed eagle. > > The gulls where > > terrified at first. After a couple of days they just > > shit all over the eagle > > and the experiment ended. > > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "bob" > > To: "Mark Langford" ; > > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:03 PM > > Subject: Re: KR> goin' out on a limb here... > > > > > > > Hi Mark, The lovely little beast are VERY afraid > > of owls. My wife and I > > > were entertained by flying squirrels for several > > years and someone told me > > > to put a plastic owl in the tree next to the > > house, IT WORKED and I > > didn't > > > have to deal with my wife about shooting a > > protected species. . . .(at > > least > > > protected buy my soft hearted wife) ;0) I do > > miss the bowling in the > > > attic though. Good luck > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > , or "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > > some other system! > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > > or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > > some other system! > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 00:10:14 -0800 (PST) To: Guenther Bryce , "w.g. kirkland" , bob , Mark Langford , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Flying squirrels... Message-ID: <20011101081014.40792.qmail@web14008.mail.yahoo.com> Guenther, First of all, not everyone on the internet lives in the United States of America. The KRnet has members from South Africa, Brazil, Italy, France, England (UK), Iceland, Canada, Mexico, Chile, Virgin Islands, Holland, and, I am sure, many other countries I don't know about. I am a veteran and a retired UNITED STATES Air Force Officer and there isn't anyone more patriotic than I am, BUT, blind patriotism can be a dangerous thing. Bill Kirkland was not in the UNITED STATES Coast Guard and he did not SAY he was, if you read his note carefully. OTHER countries also have coast guards too. And there are EAGLES everywhere and we are not the only country that admires them and uses them for symbols. I love eagles too, but Bill related a VERY funny story and if you missed the humor, you really need to get help. It's comments like yours that really give the good old USA a bad name around the world. And, by the way, I have never met a finer group of people than the members of the military branches of the United States, INCLUDING the Coast Guard, that I served with since 1958, and I don't appreciate anybody saying that members of the military are responsible for the decline of aviation in the USA. AND furthermore, during my time in the US Air Force, I served with the Canadian forces and I assure you, you will not find a finer group ANYWHERE than the Canadians. And, finally, I am sure that when they put the stuffed eagle out there, they did not THINK THE DAMNED GULLS WOULD SHIT ON IT! It was SUPPOSED TO SCARE THEM OFF. DID YOU MISS THAT PART ENTIRELY? ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 05:22:10 -0500 To: "Guenther Bryce" , "w.g. kirkland" , "bob" , "Mark Langford" , From: "Timothy Bellville" Subject: Re: KR> Flying squirrels... Message-ID: <004c01c161f5$e80359a0$165f570c@default> Are you one of those people that tries to piss off others?Do you really believe that crap?How dare you call yourself an American. The Coast Guard arguably see more action in one week then the other branches of service combined.I love the Eagle as ONE of the symbols of freedom, but I would kill a million of them to save the life of a serviceman. To hold such disgust for the brave souls defending you is beyond my comprehension. Where do you think most of the advances in aviation came from?How many pilots have been killed by eagles hitting the canopy of a fighter? How dare you brand Military service as a whole on the actions of a few. The death of this Eagle is a moot issue,Your contempt for the Military is what escapes me. Enjoy your freedom comrade. Tim Former member of the 8th,3rd,and 4th Marines. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:23:58 +0200 To: "Timothy Bellville" , "Guenther Bryce" , "w.g. kirkland" , "bob" , "Mark Langford" , From: "Kobus de Wet" Subject: Re: KR> Flying squirrels... Message-ID: <000c01c162bf$54a59d60$010aa8c0@Kobus> ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C162D0.14E8B840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am sorry to have to make this input, but could we stick to KR business = on the KR NET and keep the private arguments PRIVATE. Thanks Kobus de Wet Cape Town South Africa GMT +2.00 +27 21 988 3671 Home +27 82 788 8315 Cell www.home.intekom.com/kobusdw Webmaster www.stelfly.co.za ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Timothy Bellville=20 To: Guenther Bryce ; w.g. kirkland ; bob ; Mark Langford ; = krnet@mailinglists.org=20 Sent: 31 October 2001 12:22 Subject: Re: KR> Flying squirrels... Are you one of those people that tries to piss off others?Do you = really believe that crap?How dare you call yourself an American. The Coast Guard arguably see more action in one week then the other = branches of service combined.I love the Eagle as ONE of the symbols of freedom, = but I would kill a million of them to save the life of a serviceman. To hold = such disgust for the brave souls defending you is beyond my comprehension. = Where do you think most of the advances in aviation came from?How many = pilots have been killed by eagles hitting the canopy of a fighter? How dare you brand Military service as a whole on the actions of a = few. The death of this Eagle is a moot issue,Your contempt for the Military is = what escapes me. Enjoy your freedom comrade. Tim Former member of the 8th,3rd,and 4th Marines. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org=20 For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C162D0.14E8B840-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:22:16 EST To: kae_ar@yahoo.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Laheze@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Flying squirrels... Message-ID: Hi Frank, I think you cleared things up for some, I am sure there are still some who do not understand. Those who do not understand the english language will always be involved in misunderstandings! There are always those just looking for something to complain (bitch) about. Well stated Frank, see you later. Larry Howell laheze@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:28:21 -0500 To: Guenther Bryce , "w.g. kirkland" , bob , Mark Langford , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Schomas William Civ 479 FTG Lear Siegler Services Subject: RE: KR> Flying squirrels... Message-ID: <99B3437C8C7CD511AADF0000D1ECE0945D0A7F@vad-ms4.moody.af.mil> I'd Gladly buy you a one way ticket to Afghanistan, if you dislike it so much here! I served twenty years, flying F-16's most of my career. Now I fly a KR. Glad my view isn't as myopic as yours. Bill Schomas, proud to be an American aviator -----Original Message----- From: Guenther Bryce [mailto:guentheraviator@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:42 PM To: w.g. kirkland; bob; Mark Langford; krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Flying squirrels... I wonder if the National symbol protected species the EAGLE being stuffed by our own Coast Guard people is a common practice. I certainly am appauled that happened and the people who did that should be court martialed. I have soared many times with eagles in hang gliders and find them very noble creations and the honor they depict certainly must have been evaded by the Coast Guard. My hopes of flying my KR someday are being erroded in America by the fact that our military personel having discraced our symbol of freedom the Eagle have also discraced each pilots rights to fly by a character of behavior over the years that has brought general aviation into the same grouping as military in the public eye. To put it simply our military heritage have brought the whole aviation industry under such scrutany that the publics image of aviation is like what those sea gull did to that Coast Guard stuffed Eagle. General Aviation is the "Eagle" and military is what those gull s where full of. Bryce Guenther KR builder/owner American --- "w.g. kirkland" wrote: > The heli pad at the Coast Guard base where I worked > had a problem with sea > (herring ) gulls until they put out a stuffed eagle. > The gulls where > terrified at first. After a couple of days they just > shit all over the eagle > and the experiment ended. > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bob" > To: "Mark Langford" ; > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:03 PM > Subject: Re: KR> goin' out on a limb here... > > > > Hi Mark, The lovely little beast are VERY afraid > of owls. My wife and I > > were entertained by flying squirrels for several > years and someone told me > > to put a plastic owl in the tree next to the > house, IT WORKED and I > didn't > > have to deal with my wife about shooting a > protected species. . . .(at > least > > protected buy my soft hearted wife) ;0) I do > miss the bowling in the > > attic though. Good luck > > > > Bob > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > , or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > some other system! > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > some other system! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 08:49:23 -0700 To: ,, , , , From: "Benjamin Knorr" Subject: RE: KR> Flying squirrels... Message-Id: Ok, I'm certain that nobody killed a Bald Eagle and stuffed it intentionall= y. It was probably dead first, or captured because of disease or = something. It is a federal crime to kill a Bald Eagle, and I'm pretty = sure they're not committing federal crimes, then displaying their crime = for all to admire. Everything's cool, don't sweat it. I thought this thread was about flying squirrels or something...I don't = think I would've read it otherwise. Oh well. I like wood. =20 We're all friends here, bound together by a love of aviation, and a love = of wooden/composite airplanes. Coool beans. =20 Happy days everyone =3D) -ben =20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 19:42:23 -0600 To: "Benjamin Knorr" , , , , , , From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> Flying squirrels... Message-ID: <004201c1633f$cbc59e60$ca8c31cc@cyou.com> I have to tell this story. (and it is true). This summer we sold our house and I was showing the lady and the contractor that was going to do some remodeling around the place. We had a Bluebird House right outside the side door and I was sure it had babies in it. Since I had the door on it fixed to open so I could watch the little ones progress, we opened it to see the babies Blue Birds. Now picture this, I'm in short pants, standing in front of the birdhouse, telling them to be quiet when the flying squirrel comes out of the house, down the tree, up my leg and shorts (way inside) and the departs up the tree. How high can you jump with a flying squirell up your shorts? I got about three feet. We closed the house door and the new owner is now raising fs's. ED Ed Blocher Crestview, FL Blocher@cyou.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Benjamin Knorr To: ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: RE: KR> Flying squirrels... Ok, I'm certain that nobody killed a Bald Eagle and stuffed it intentionally. It was probably dead first, or captured because of disease or something. It is a federal crime to kill a Bald Eagle, and I'm pretty sure they're not committing federal crimes, then displaying their crime for all to admire. Everything's cool, don't sweat it. I thought this thread was about flying squirrels or something...I don't think I would've read it otherwise. Oh well. I like wood. We're all friends here, bound together by a love of aviation, and a love of wooden/composite airplanes. Coool beans. Happy days everyone =) -ben --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 07:42:12 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: bill thomas Subject: Engine and panel instruments for sale Message-ID: <3BE14324.207C5ED@snet.net> Hi, everyone. I advertised several items for sale several months ago, and actually thought I had the parts sold...but the potential buyer had a financial reversal and had to back out. So.....please let me know if any of you are interested in the following. I am parting out a modified KR, and have for sale a complete firewall forward VW engine package. This is a professionally built 2280 cc engine with Ellison TBI, electronic ignition, swingout engine mount, alternator, vacuum pump, 52 x 50 Props Inc propeller. Engine has about 250 hours TT, and is in excellent running condition. Also have a complete set of panel instruments for sale: airspeed with KR markings, altimiter, directional gyro, attitude indicator, VSI, electronic tach, Westach engine gage (EGT, Oil Temp/Pressure), vacuum gage. Also have an ARC 459 Xpdr and Mode C blind encoder. All the above is in good working order, and I would be glad to part with it for somewhere in the neighborhood of 40% of new value. Please contact me offline if you'd like more detail, to talk price, etc. Bill Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 23:26:40 -0800 To: kr From: Darren Pond Subject: Loose wires and cables Message-ID: <3BE0F930.1E8CC6A1@home.com> Hi All What is the proper thing to fasten wires, control cables, oil pressure, oil temp, primer 1/8 copper tubing and other such thing that seem to be needed under my fuel tank but above my feet. Are tie raps taboo? Or How about black electrical tape. Heck Tuck tape? I am only talking about the 24" or so from panel to firewall. Any thoughts? Darren Pond ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 21:56:00 -0800 (PST) To: Darren Pond , kr From: Tim Brown Subject: Re: KR> Loose wires and cables Message-ID: <20011101055600.34390.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Use the plastic ties. In the Sheriff's Dept. we used them as handcuffs in a pinch. They will hold anything. --- Darren Pond wrote: > Hi All > What is the proper thing to fasten wires, > control cables, oil pressure, > oil temp, primer 1/8 copper tubing and other > such thing that seem to be > needed under my fuel tank but above my feet. > Are tie raps taboo? Or How > about black electrical tape. Heck Tuck tape? I > am only talking about the > 24" or so from panel to firewall. > Any thoughts? > Darren Pond > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: > krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so > use some other system! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 04:37:36 -0600 To: kr From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Loose wires and cables Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011101043736.0086f100@pop3.norton.antivirus> Darren, As Martha Stewart would say, tie raps, they're a good thing. Just don't go tie rapping electrical lines to fuel or oil lines. Fuel and oil lines need a good mechanical support other than tie raps (i.e. adel clamps,etc.). These are the types of things Tony Bingelis covers in his books. Every builder ought to have them. Am I starting to sound like a broken record? Have you made your Christmas list out yet? Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:46:17 +0200 To: "Darren Pond" , From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: Re: KR> Loose wires and cables Message-ID: <000001c16306$2240a4e0$c504a8c0@sergevateint> Use Tyraps, but secure them on decent Tyraps holders. These are plastic blocks that you can either glue or screw to your attachment points. They have bridges to slide the Tyraps into. Clean, safe, and easy to remove/replace. Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren Pond To: kr Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:26 AM Subject: KR> Loose wires and cables > Hi All > What is the proper thing to fasten wires, control cables, oil pressure, > oil temp, primer 1/8 copper tubing and other such thing that seem to be > needed under my fuel tank but above my feet. Are tie raps taboo? Or How > about black electrical tape. Heck Tuck tape? I am only talking about the > 24" or so from panel to firewall. > Any thoughts? > Darren Pond > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 04:04:56 +0000 To: guentheraviator@yahoo.com, KRNet From: Stuart Deal Subject: Re: KR> Flaming squirrels...and Flight Safety Message-ID: <3BC125E8.8C8AF841@sonic.net> As builders and pilots, we need to be on our guard for jumping to conclusions and extreme emotions. In times where more folks are on edge, we must ask ourselves: Am I safe to fly? Even a driver's license is a privilege, not a right. Let's look out for each other as well as other species. Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:04:52 -0500 To: "'Stuart Deal'" From: "Garland, Norm F" Cc: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" Subject: RE: KR> Flaming squirrels...and Flight Safety Message-id: <322D26F4E94CD5118F560008C7E65E4A02A1C9A9@emss03m07.orl.lmco.com> The subject line has such a subtle change .. I see people dousing squirrels with a flammable liquid and throwing them out of windows.. Look out!!! I see a PETA representative coming after you..they are at the door .. Don't answer it... THIS WAS ALL IN FUN I don't think Mark L. could ever believe the ruckus his little comment would raise. How about we leave the poor wildlife alone and go back to airplanes. Norm F. Garland Jr > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Deal [SMTP:sdeal@sonic.net] > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 12:05 AM > To: guentheraviator@yahoo.com; KRNet > Subject: Re: KR> Flaming squirrels...and Flight Safety > > As builders and pilots, we need to be on our guard for > jumping to conclusions and extreme emotions. > > In times where more folks are on edge, we must ask ourselves: > > Am I safe to fly? > > Even a driver's license is a privilege, not a right. > > Let's look out for each other as well as other species. > > Stuart > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:16:54 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: doug c boyd Subject: B. Thomas Message-ID: <20011101.121921.1748.0.boyd84@juno.com> Looking for tri gear forK R. Am converting KR1 taildragger to tri gear. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:12:22 -0400 To: , "doug c boyd" From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: Re: KR> B. Thomas Message-ID: <001a01c16309$26e853a0$784bfea9@mainpc> Gentlemen; I have an offer you can't refuse. A brand new KR2, with a Subaru engine, in the trike configuration. Beautiful and clean, located in eastern Canada. The fellow wants to sell because he prefers to build, he tell me and he only wants to get out what he has in it. Hold your seats, $10000 CDN. That's like approximately $6200.US. This is a beautiful airplane and I swear if I didn't have two in my garage right now you'd never have heard about this one. Get back to me if your interested, regards Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "doug c boyd" To: Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:16 PM Subject: KR> B. Thomas > Looking for tri gear forK R. Am converting KR1 taildragger to tri gear. > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 00:45:22 +0000 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: brodc@att.net Cc: rlgabor@juno.com Subject: KR project for sale Message-Id: <20011102004522.ROUL5495.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Rich as a KR2 project he will take offers on. The fuslage is complete with stub wings, tail feathers in place, rudder and brakes installed, wings for the most paart complete. The fiber glass has not been filled, plenty of work left. Project is located near Augusta, Ga Rich is project poor with several others on going. If anyone is interested contact Rich at rigabor@juno.com He can give you a complete run down. Clay Brod Harlem, GA. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:14:36 -0800 (PST) To: KR-Net From: CS Subject: EA-81 for sale at Barnstormers.com Message-ID: <20011102071436.48364.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Netters, Just found this at barnstormers.com, sounds like a decent price... EA-81 • AVAILABLE FOR SALE!! EA-81 engine for sale! direct drive setup! only 50 hrs run time! Electronic ignition conversion! Nice engine! $1250.00 Contact Mike King located Highlandville MO USA. Telephone: 417-443-0279. -- Posted 2 November 2001 -- the email is: mking@mediacomcc.com Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 18:01:22 -0800 To: kr From: Darren Pond Subject: Cont A65 forSale Message-ID: <3BE34FF2.2FE227F0@home.com> I have a Cont a65 zero timed my EAA advisor. Will ship anywhere in Canada US for $3300 Us Carb, dual mag, intake manifold Darren Pond 519-651-2522 ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************