From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 13 Nov 2001 23:33:27 -0000 Issue 321 Date: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:33 PM krnet Digest 13 Nov 2001 23:33:27 -0000 Issue 321 Topics (messages 7534 through 7559): KR2 parts 4sale 7534 by: KR2HOPPER.aol.com Re: corvaircraft: high temp paint 7535 by: Mark Jones off-topic: Pietenpol for sale 7536 by: Oscar Zuniga KR2S 7537 by: 1 Bad Man 7541 by: David Mullins 7542 by: Donald Reid 7545 by: David Mullins Re: KRnet annual fee/donation 7538 by: Ross R. Youngblood 7539 by: Ross R. Youngblood 7544 by: Mark Langford 7554 by: Ross R. Youngblood 7559 by: Daniel Heath Re: progress posa 7540 by: Ross R. Youngblood 7549 by: macwood 7557 by: William Tabbert Carbon fiber seats................ 7543 by: Jerry Mahurin Re: Builders in my area 7546 by: Eduardo José Jankosz KRnet Website Help 7547 by: Walter Lounsbery Re: Carbon fiber seats 7548 by: Frank Ross 7555 by: Ross R. Youngblood veterans day 7550 by: Flymaca711689.cs.com new Kr flying 7551 by: w.g. kirkland kr-2 7552 by: Flyer2mc.aol.com Tail wheel Position 7553 by: Darren Pond 7556 by: Ross R. Youngblood 7558 by: virgnvs.juno.com Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:38:01 EST To: rossy65@home.com From: KR2HOPPER@aol.com CC: kfc@primus.com.au, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR2 parts 4sale Message-ID: <15.1d970329.292049b9@aol.com> kr retracts complete with all fairings $115.00 engine cowling vw $100.00 canopy (cut 1in. short on the aft end) otherwise it's fine no dings/scratches/still in protective coating $90.00 (color is dark smoke,dark solar gray?) If interested in any or all please call.I hate having these just sitting around collecting dust when somebody could be using them! Thank You, Ray Kobzeff kr2hopper@aol.com or (707) 778-6162 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:05:33 -0600 To: corvaircraft@usm.edu, KR-Net From: Mark Jones Subject: Re: corvaircraft: high temp paint Message-ID: <3BEEF62D.27356222@execpc.com> --------------95A9E43E0FAE06AAD12EBAA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jack, I would recommend "Dupli-Color" High Heat Ceramic Paint 1200 degree. It can be found at Auto Zone and probably any other auto parts store. For maximum curing of this paint, cure in oven at 300 degrees for 2 hours or 400 degrees for 1.5 hours or 600 degrees for 1 hour. Mark Jones ROBERT COOPER wrote: > I was just looking at a can of 500 degree engine paint and it gave no > directiond as to how to cure in an oven. Do you put it in the oven > immideately after spraying or do you let it cure for a period of time? > > Jack > Coopermailto:kr2cooper@msn.comhttp://www.geocities.com/kr2cooper/Fayetteville, > NC. -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html --------------95A9E43E0FAE06AAD12EBAA1-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:29:59 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: off-topic: Pietenpol for sale Message-ID: Howdy, folks; I missed Friday, so hope nobody takes offense... I've put up a webpage showing Ernie Moreno's Pietenpol for sale. Ernie is my EAA Tech Counselor, and I recently visited his place to try out the Piet for size. If somebody doesn't stop me pretty soon, my Christmas bonus just might end up in his wallet and I'd fly away in the Piet. Anyway, pictures are at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/piets.html And just so's I won't get in trouble for not relating this to KRs, recently there was a post about wheel/tire size for KRs. Paul Martin's plane looked a whole heck of a lot like Dan Heath's "Little Beast", which looked just right with 5" skins; you can see it at http://www.flysquirrel.net/ride.html Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:51:17 -0500 To: "Krnet" From: "1 Bad Man" Subject: KR2S Message-ID: Is anyone working on a kr2s? I see alot of kr2 requests and info but from what I understand, Im too tall for one. -B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:00:12 -0500 From: David Mullins CC: Krnet Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Message-ID: <3BEF1F1C.BF0C48FA@mediaone.net> Hey Bad, Don Reid is 6' 10" and building one. If your taller than that, I would watch out for Jack climbing a beanstalk and stealing your goose that lays the golden egg! Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire http://n323xl.iwarp.com 1 Bad Man wrote: > Is anyone working on a kr2s? > > I see alot of kr2 requests and info but from what > I understand, Im too tall for one. > > -B > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:58:21 -0500 To: Krnet From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20011111205002.00a1b4c0@pop.erols.com> --=====================_11473028==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:00 PM 11/11/2001 -0500, David Mullins wrote: >Hey Bad, > >Don Reid is 6' 10" and building one. > > > Is anyone working on a kr2s? > > > > I see alot of kr2 requests and info but from what > > I understand, Im too tall for one. That is a totally unfounded exaggeration. I am only a little over 6'-8" (205 cm). You can modify the KR2S to fit a larger person but it requires some changes that you may not want to consider. Extra size means more weight. More weight means either a lower load factor or a re-design of the basic structure. I have also taken a few new photos of the project with both wings installed. From the firewall back, it is starting to look like a real airplane. Work has been placed on hold while I re-model (and clean out) my shop. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org --=====================_11473028==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:08:51 -0500 From: David Mullins CC: Krnet Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Message-ID: <3BEF3D43.C7D8CA77@mediaone.net> Don, I'm sorry. I got my facts mixed up! I've been breathing burnt kerosene for the last two days building an airplane. I cut the canopy off, installed the instrument panel (still waiting for some goodies to fill it up), reinstalled the motor mount, bolted up the corvair engine, making the control brackets and controls, started the rudder pedals, wiring the fuselage, installing antennas. Reworked the end caps to the aluminum stub wing tanks. I am making Camloc brackets for the cowling right now. Tomorrow I go get some more aluminum sheared to size for the fuel tanks. Along with making some CAD drawings for another netter. I will probably be in work for the next two days, so no work on the plane. Finally getting some OT to buy some more parts. Got to keep the economy going! Hopefully, I will get some down time at work and finish the next update to my website. Happy building everyone! Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire http://n323xl.iwarp.com Donald Reid wrote: > At 08:00 PM 11/11/2001 -0500, David Mullins wrote: > >Hey Bad, > > > >Don Reid is 6' 10" and building one. > > > > > Is anyone working on a kr2s? > > > > > > I see alot of kr2 requests and info but from what > > > I understand, Im too tall for one. > > That is a totally unfounded exaggeration. I am only a little over 6'-8" > (205 cm). > > You can modify the KR2S to fit a larger person but it requires some changes > that you may not want to consider. Extra size means more weight. More > weight means either a lower load factor or a re-design of the basic > structure. > > I have also taken a few new photos of the project with both wings > installed. From the firewall back, it is starting to look like a real > airplane. Work has been placed on hold while I re-model (and clean out) my > shop. > > Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com > Bumpass, Va > > Visit my web sites at: > KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm > Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm > EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org > Ultralights: http://usua250.org > VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:58:33 -0700 From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: Mark Langford , KRnet Subject: Re: KR> KRnet annual fee/donation Message-ID: <3BEF1EB8.9E7AF9F4@home.com> What I'd like to do is see some work from folks and upload the stuff from the site. I had one volunteer helper at one point, but wasn't too excited about the results. The site is paid up for the year as far as domain name registration and hosting, until next August or so. Right now all we need is people to work on new webpages, and then we can upload the results to the krnet account. -- Ross Mark Langford wrote: > Mark Jones wrote: > > > If you need a home for the KR.net site, I would be glad to volunteer to > take over. > > Mark, > > He said a "GOOD" home! Actually, that sounds great to me. Maybe there > could be some cooperative effort to spruce things up a bit, with lots of > folks contributing new stuff, and Mark tying it all together however he sees > fit (with endless suggestions from the rest of us, of course). Something > like the KROnline articles that Randy and several of the KRNet oldtimers did > several years ago (see the middle of http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford for > those excellent issues). I don't know what > > Ross asked me if I wanted to take over, but I've become way too selfish with > my time to take on another job like that one. There's a lot of potential > there though, and I'd love to see something done with it. Sorry about the > jab, Ross, but I'm famous for my brutal frankness, especially at work. > > I suppose if KRNet goes to another "keeper", it could easily go to another > ISP as well. I don't know what everybody has in mind, but I'll volunteer > that hiwaay.net has virtually unlimited diskspace (I'm using over 250Mb at > the moment) for $19.95 a month, and I've never known it to be down, > inacessible, or slow. So that's always an option, but administration would > have to be done by somebody with LAN access, since the only "foreign" dialup > access is an 800 number for $8 an hour. Just a thought, and I think Mark > has LAN access anyway. I'm sure there are other options as well, but I'd > love to stay away from advertising, if possible. > > On other matters, I just welded my 4130 lower gear bracket gussets in place, > and I hereby declare that I can WELD! They aren't perfectly beautiful, but > I assure you they are good welds. I'll have them magnafluxed at work on > Monday just for kicks. Speaking of work, we've built a portable waterjet > cutter for "a very large metropolitan city" bomb squad, and spent the day > cutting up car doors from the junkyard for entertainment. Yesterday we > sawed through a piece of 4130 an inch thick just for good measure. Life is > good... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 18:03:59 -0700 From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: Daniel Heath , Mark Langford , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> KRnet annual fee/donation Message-ID: <3BEF1FFF.158900D7@home.com> Dan, As far as I can tell we are in good shape. Mark would send up a flag if the email list had a problem, we have managed since my ISP gave up supporting email lists a couple of years ago. At one time www.krnet.org and the mailing list where under the same hat. I'm just not up to the task of keeping the content at www.krnet.org up to date as I'd like. Paying the annual fee for www.krnet.org is somthing I do myself it's only about $250 a year or so, and compared to what my flying costs... well, we are paid up till next year. I just haven't gotten around to making the effort of cashing contributions be worth the effort of going to the bank. Be sure that there are enough of us crazy KR-netters out here to keep the email list and a quasi official website up, so don't worry. -- Regards Ross Daniel Heath wrote: > I sure wish I could figure out exactly what is expected of the Netters and > whether or not the net is in jeopardy. Does someone want to get rid of it > or not do it anymore? Or is it just an issue of how we are supposed to pay > for it. > > Daniel R. Heath > > WWW.EAA242.ORG > www.JerryMahurin.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Langford" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:00 AM > Subject: Re: KR> KRnet annual fee/donation > > > Darren Pond wrote: > > > > > I was wondering if the KRnet operators would consider using one of the > > > several internet money transfer sites that out there. Paypal.com I think > > > is one of them... > > > > Darren, > > > > The KRNet list donations are made directly to the organization that > actually > > provides the list hosting (mailinglists.org). Actual donations are made > at > > http://www.mailinglists.org/donations.html , which does indeed do Paypal. > > These donations makes the guy (Alan) who runs this service just barely > happy > > enough to keep this thing going as inexpensively, effectively, and > > efficiently as he does, with no advertising or other painful information > > gathering tactics going on in the background. I'd much rather pay a few > > dollars a year for a nice clean service like this than suffer through a > > littany of unending banner ads and other crap that keeps popping up on my > > screen. It might be noted that this list cost exactly $10 to set up in > the > > beginning, with a hundred dollar per year fee, but that was then waived in > > lieu of voluntary donations sent to the web page above. Since we have 600 > > members, I'd think that if everybody sent him a dollar he'd be quite > happy, > > but since only one out of ten is decent enough to actually do that, the > rest > > of us should probably send him $5 or so. > > > > Just to show you how wierd I am, I'm the one who asked him to put his > snail > > mail address on that site for those of us who don't trust establishments > > like Paypal. Signing up for Paypal is just short of an inquisition, and > you > > can bet that all of that information they gather is sold to somebody > either > > now or will be later. When I mail a letter with a check in it, nobody > makes > > me fill out three pages of personal information, so I prefer to mail > checks > > or bank checks. To each his own, I guess. And Paypal skims 3% off the > top > > of every transaction that goes through, which I think is way too much > (kinda > > like Visa\Mastercard, but I'll confess to using IT). > > > > If you ever forget where to make KRNet donations, this link is just about > in > > the center of my KR2S web page at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford , along > > with some other stuff that people are always looking for and can't seem to > > find. > > > > Donations for Ross Youngblood's KRNet website at http://www.krnet.org/ can > > be made on the site itself (you can't miss the KA-CHING sound of $$$$$ on > > THAT site!), although some might wonder what this particular site does for > > the actual list, other than provide a pointer to it, and an abundance of > > dead links... > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:52:02 -0600 To: "KRnet" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Fw: KR> KRnet annual fee/donation Message-ID: <005801c16b25$021f1d00$0100a8c0@cmc3075662a> RossY wrote: > What I'd like to do is see some work from folks and upload the > stuff from the site. I had one volunteer helper at one point, but > wasn't too excited about the results.. What if we just tried to reduce the scope of www.krnet.org to simply do two or three things, and try to do those few things right, with links that actually work? Maybe the builders' yearbook ("builders links with photos"), and pointers to KR builders' and pilots' websites. I'm not sure if Ross is talking about me being the volunteer whose work he wasn't too impressed with, but all I remember volunteering to do was update the builder's yearbook, which I did, and have updated several times since then. I had just typed up a paragraph volunteering to take it over and revamp it, but fortunately came to my senses before hitting "SEND" and deleted it. If I'm going to spend a month revamping a web page, it should probably be my own. Still, it wouldn't take somebody that knows what they're doing but a few hours to reduce www.krnet.org to one or two well-organized pages that actually work. Besides, y'all have seen enough of my lackluster HTML work. Still, if somebody else doesn't do it, I will, but I have this cowling mold to make at the moment. If you don't get any other takers in the next few weeks, I'll give it a shot, and if you don't like what I do, you can retore it back to the way it was before I messed with it... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:49:38 -0700 From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: Mark Langford , KRnet Subject: Re: Fw: KR> KRnet annual fee/donation Message-ID: <3BF06E22.AB8B1BB@home.com> Mark, No you aren't the person I wasn't happy with., in fact I liked the work you did. It would be nice if we could keep the Gathering Link, and the links to builders sites up. -- Ross Mark Langford wrote: > RossY wrote: > > > What I'd like to do is see some work from folks and upload the > > stuff from the site. I had one volunteer helper at one point, but > > wasn't too excited about the results.. > > What if we just tried to reduce the scope of www.krnet.org to simply do two > or three things, and try to do those few things right, with links that > actually work? Maybe the builders' yearbook ("builders links with photos"), > and pointers to KR builders' and pilots' websites. I'm not sure if Ross is > talking about me being the volunteer whose work he wasn't too impressed > with, but all I remember volunteering to do was update the builder's > yearbook, which I did, and have updated several times since then. > > I had just typed up a paragraph volunteering to take it over and revamp it, > but fortunately came to my senses before hitting "SEND" and deleted it. > If I'm going to spend a month revamping a web page, it should probably be my > own. Still, it wouldn't take somebody that knows what they're doing but a > few hours to reduce www.krnet.org to one or two well-organized pages that > actually work. Besides, y'all have seen enough of my lackluster HTML work. > > Still, if somebody else doesn't do it, I will, but I have this cowling mold > to make at the moment. If you don't get any other takers in the next few > weeks, I'll give it a shot, and if you don't like what I do, you can retore > it back to the way it was before I messed with it... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:31:31 -0500 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Cc: "Mark Langford" , "KRnet" Subject: Re: Fw: KR> KRnet annual fee/donation Message-ID: <005101c16c9b$6ecb6a40$6f2e5d0c@scana.com> Ross, I think that builder links are very important. If that is all there is to it, I could do it, if I can get FTP access to the site. I would want input from the regular NET mailing list to help me know when the links expire, or if the site has statistics available, that would be sufficient. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG www.JerryMahurin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Cc: "Mark Langford" ; "KRnet" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:49 PM Subject: Re: Fw: KR> KRnet annual fee/donation > Mark, > No you aren't the person I wasn't happy with., in fact I liked the work you > did. It would be nice if we could keep the Gathering Link, and the links > to builders sites up. > -- Ross > > Mark Langford wrote: > > > RossY wrote: > > > > > What I'd like to do is see some work from folks and upload the > > > stuff from the site. I had one volunteer helper at one point, but > > > wasn't too excited about the results.. > > > > What if we just tried to reduce the scope of www.krnet.org to simply do two > > or three things, and try to do those few things right, with links that > > actually work? Maybe the builders' yearbook ("builders links with photos"), > > and pointers to KR builders' and pilots' websites. I'm not sure if Ross is > > talking about me being the volunteer whose work he wasn't too impressed > > with, but all I remember volunteering to do was update the builder's > > yearbook, which I did, and have updated several times since then. > > > > I had just typed up a paragraph volunteering to take it over and revamp it, > > but fortunately came to my senses before hitting "SEND" and deleted it. > > If I'm going to spend a month revamping a web page, it should probably be my > > own. Still, it wouldn't take somebody that knows what they're doing but a > > few hours to reduce www.krnet.org to one or two well-organized pages that > > actually work. Besides, y'all have seen enough of my lackluster HTML work. > > > > Still, if somebody else doesn't do it, I will, but I have this cowling mold > > to make at the moment. If you don't get any other takers in the next few > > weeks, I'll give it a shot, and if you don't like what I do, you can retore > > it back to the way it was before I messed with it... > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 18:06:32 -0700 From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: Daniel Heath , Flymaca711689@cs.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> progress posa Message-ID: <3BEF2098.C2CF22FC@home.com> Dan, As far as I know there is no such thing as a free lunch. I paid $$ for my Ellison, but starting the bugger has been a bit troublesome. If I manually take a tube of nyflo tubing and blow fuel down the throat, it started right up, but priming with my primer design, (2 intake cylinders fed), didn't work so well. It's one of the issues I need to resolve. I plan on experimenting with suggestings I got on KR-net next time I'm at the airport. -- Ross Daniel Heath wrote: > Speaking of carburetors..... Everyone knows that the Posa sucks and the > Revflow is not much better.. I think the Ellison is perfect, but costs too > much. Has anyone found the right formula. > > I need to be able to use a fuel pump with the carb, have true mixture > control, and to have in install and operate as easily as the Ellison. AND > I don't want to give away the farm to get it. > > Has anyone found the perfect carb? You would think that after all this time > of running VW engines on KRs, someone would have built something to compete > with the Ellison or some genius builder would have found the right > combination. > > Does anyone have an Ellison for sale for the right price? > > Daniel R. Heath > > WWW.EAA242.ORG > www.JerryMahurin.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:36 AM > Subject: KR> progress posa > > > Dave good luck with the posa I try it all 3/8 fuel lines helped but It > > changes day to day with posa after It quit that was IT more than one time! > I > > like It just cant get IT right with new needles maybe no parts for this > thing > > all so It needs to be drill for set srew to lock the needle or your > begging > > for engine out.you can get flange for the manifold 1821 for great planes > > .Keep In mind some guys do real good with the posa I failed and IM master > > auto tech. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mac bb sport > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:54:28 -0000 To: From: "macwood" Cc: "Daniel Heath" , , Subject: Re: KR> progress posa Message-ID: <000701c16b79$2c7a1e20$e8393c3e@tinypc> Having the same problem re starting here. Was considering fitting a primer,but are thrown into doubt after your last e/m. I was going to fit the nipple at the manifold junction (how do you fit them anyway?) My carb is an Amal concentric -recommended by a RR engineer, and it used to start first time.(Ditched the POSA after loss of confidence). Thanks for any suggestions- Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross R. Youngblood Cc: Daniel Heath ; ; Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:06 AM Subject: Re: KR> progress posa > Dan, > As far as I know there is no such thing as a free lunch. I paid $$ for my > Ellison, but starting the bugger has been a bit troublesome. If I manually > take a tube of nyflo tubing and blow fuel down the throat, it started right > up, but priming with my primer design, (2 intake cylinders fed), didn't work > so well. It's one of the issues I need to resolve. > I plan on experimenting with suggestings I got on KR-net next time I'm > at the airport. > -- Ross > > Daniel Heath wrote: > > > Speaking of carburetors..... Everyone knows that the Posa sucks and the > > Revflow is not much better.. I think the Ellison is perfect, but costs too > > much. Has anyone found the right formula. > > > > I need to be able to use a fuel pump with the carb, have true mixture > > control, and to have in install and operate as easily as the Ellison. AND > > I don't want to give away the farm to get it. > > > > Has anyone found the perfect carb? You would think that after all this time > > of running VW engines on KRs, someone would have built something to compete > > with the Ellison or some genius builder would have found the right > > combination. > > > > Does anyone have an Ellison for sale for the right price? > > > > Daniel R. Heath > > > > WWW.EAA242.ORG > > www.JerryMahurin.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:36 AM > > Subject: KR> progress posa > > > > > Dave good luck with the posa I try it all 3/8 fuel lines helped but It > > > changes day to day with posa after It quit that was IT more than one time! > > I > > > like It just cant get IT right with new needles maybe no parts for this > > thing > > > all so It needs to be drill for set srew to lock the needle or your > > begging > > > for engine out.you can get flange for the manifold 1821 for great planes > > > .Keep In mind some guys do real good with the posa I failed and IM master > > > auto tech. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mac bb sport > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:39:26 +0000 To: macwood@tinyworld.co.uk From: "William Tabbert" Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> progress posa Message-ID: MAc, if you have not welded the old vacume openings below the flange of the head intake, you can use an 1/8" NPT tap (the only pipe tape that comes with a standard tap & die kit) and tap a nice set of threads into the alluminum housing. I did it to install plugs to seal off the holes and ended up installing my primer there. Bill Tabbert >From: "macwood" >To: >CC: "Daniel Heath" , , > >Subject: Re: KR> progress posa >Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:54:28 -0000 > >Having the same problem re starting here. Was considering fitting a >primer,but are thrown into doubt after your last e/m. I was going to fit >the >nipple at the manifold junction (how do you fit them anyway?) My carb is an >Amal concentric -recommended by a RR engineer, and it used to start first >time.(Ditched the POSA after loss of confidence). >Thanks for any suggestions- Mac >----- Original Message ----- >From: Ross R. Youngblood >Cc: Daniel Heath ; ; > >Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:06 AM >Subject: Re: KR> progress posa > > > > Dan, > > As far as I know there is no such thing as a free lunch. I paid $$ >for >my > > Ellison, but starting the bugger has been a bit troublesome. If I >manually > > take a tube of nyflo tubing and blow fuel down the throat, it started >right > > up, but priming with my primer design, (2 intake cylinders fed), didn't >work > > so well. It's one of the issues I need to resolve. > > I plan on experimenting with suggestings I got on KR-net next time >I'm > > at the airport. > > -- Ross > > > > Daniel Heath wrote: > > > > > Speaking of carburetors..... Everyone knows that the Posa sucks and >the > > > Revflow is not much better.. I think the Ellison is perfect, but >costs >too > > > much. Has anyone found the right formula. > > > > > > I need to be able to use a fuel pump with the carb, have true mixture > > > control, and to have in install and operate as easily as the Ellison. >AND > > > I don't want to give away the farm to get it. > > > > > > Has anyone found the perfect carb? You would think that after all >this >time > > > of running VW engines on KRs, someone would have built something to >compete > > > with the Ellison or some genius builder would have found the right > > > combination. > > > > > > Does anyone have an Ellison for sale for the right price? > > > > > > Daniel R. Heath > > > > > > WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > www.JerryMahurin.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:36 AM > > > Subject: KR> progress posa > > > > > > > Dave good luck with the posa I try it all 3/8 fuel lines helped but >It > > > > changes day to day with posa after It quit that was IT more than one >time! > > > I > > > > like It just cant get IT right with new needles maybe no parts for >this > > > thing > > > > all so It needs to be drill for set srew to lock the needle or your > > > begging > > > > for engine out.you can get flange for the manifold 1821 for great >planes > > > > .Keep In mind some guys do real good with the posa I failed and IM >master > > > > auto tech. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mac bb sport > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:11:58 -0500 To: "Daniel Heath" , "HEATH, DANIEL R" , "KRnet" , "Kim Bevier" From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Carbon fiber seats................ Message-ID: Netters, et al, Go to http://www.jerrymahurin.com and take a look at the seats made from foam and carbon fiber. Dan and I can step in and bounce on them (a little...!) and do not go thru the bottom of the plane..... And they weigh less than 2 1/2# each.... They just sit in place, no fasteners. They replace several pounds of wood and metal fastners and reinforcing angle. We figure the seat back will weigh about two more pounds and will be replacing a four pound wooden one.... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:25:45 -0200 To: "Robert Stone" , "KRNet" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eduardo_Jos=E9_Jankosz?=" Subject: Re: KR> Builders in my area Message-Id: <200111120332.fAC3WJR88868@cwbone.bsi.com.br> Robert Frank Ross, in San Antonio, south central Texas, near about 120 miles of you, is too building a KR! Eduardo José Jankosz jankosz@bsi.com.br http://www.bsi.com.br/cbcb Curitiba - PR - BRASIL ---------- De: Robert Stone Para: KRNet Assunto: KR> Builders in my area Data: Sábado, 10 de Novembro de 2001 21:54 Netters: Is anyone building a KR aircraft in my area: Killeen, Texas Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rlspjs@dashlink.com ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:55:18 -0600 To: "KRnet \(E-mail\)" From: "Walter Lounsbery" Subject: KRnet Website Help Message-ID: <000601c16b36$3a1141a0$6401a8c0@dragon> I understand we are looking for volunteers to help with the KRnet website. I would be happy to work on the site in any capacity needed. I would be happier to work on a plane, but my project start looks to be at least 8 months out now. Plenty of time to help with cleanup or adding some nifty stuff. By day I am a Project Lead with the ECommerce group at Lennox International. The sites are www.lennoxdavenet.com and www.web-lex.com. Although I work with Microsoft Active Server Pages and database software, I am familiar with UNIX environments and their site architectures. HTML and Javascript stuff is all fairly portable. My personal website is very sad right now, so I won't point out its URL. Send me a note off the list if I can be of assistance. Walt Lounsbery Walt@Lounsbery.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:01:17 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Carbon fiber seats Message-ID: <20011112050117.94731.qmail@web14007.mail.yahoo.com> Dan & Jerry, Real nice work on both the web site and the seats. You guys have really been busy. Congratulations. Frank in San Antonio, TX > Go to http://www.jerrymahurin.com and take a look at > the > seats made from foam and carbon fiber. Dan and I > can step > in and bounce on them __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:58:39 -0700 From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: Frank Ross , KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Carbon fiber seats Message-ID: <3BF0703F.66299F55@home.com> Thanks Frank, I took a look at Dan & Jerrys site... really nice KR project! Inspirational. -- Ross Frank Ross wrote: > Dan & Jerry, > Real nice work on both the web site and the seats. You > guys have really been busy. Congratulations. > Frank in San Antonio, TX > > > Go to http://www.jerrymahurin.com and take a look at > > the > > seats made from foam and carbon fiber. Dan and I > > can step > > in and bounce on them > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:15:22 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Flymaca711689@cs.com Subject: veterans day Message-ID: <64.160d6dcb.2921256a@cs.com> --part1_64.160d6dcb.2921256a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To all who served this great nation past and present thank you. I wish my dad was here to see airpower at work once again my dad was b17 pilot WW2 and flow black widows In Alaska after the war was over.bin ledin went from saying he'd use nukes to you wont take me a live. Sounds like he's getting ass kickin!~ thanks again for riding the world of nice guy like that. Ihope we can defeat them with airpower alone after all they used are aircraft to start all this!!!! back to the dead or alive thing dead be lot better then johnny cockren cant defend him say he had a bad childhood . Mac --part1_64.160d6dcb.2921256a_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:51:37 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: new Kr flying Message-ID: <00a801c16bb3$71581300$06b45bd1@utboopki> ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C16B89.878F6DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was down to Oshawa to see Chris Gardiners new Kr, CFKRZ. If he shows = up at the next fly in hang on t your prizes or he will steal them. A = real nice piece of work Chris. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C16B89.878F6DA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:00:57 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Flyer2mc@aol.com Subject: kr-2 Message-ID: kr-2 for sale 1835 revmaster eng only 6 hours testing time new paint red/white new interior fixed gear $7000 call steve sutton @ 502 9331282 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:26:56 -0800 To: kr From: Darren Pond Subject: Tail wheel Position Message-ID: <3BF09300.54E232D0@home.com> Hi all How does a tail dragger behave if the tail wheel pivot is slightly infront of Rudder pivot point? Because of lengthening the tail I will need much longer landing gear legs to get the centre line at 14deg well at rest. I have seen several Formula race planes with wheel under Horiz Stab and the tail nearly dragging on the tar mat. Is tail wheel suspension really needed on our light weight a/c's? Any thoughts? Darren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:05:58 -0700 From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: Darren Pond , kr Subject: Re: KR> Tail wheel Position Message-ID: <3BF071F6.3A6DD524@home.com> Darren, I'm not convinced it really matters too much where the rudder is vs the tailwheel pivot point. The center of mass is still behind the mains, which is the primary issue with the tailwheel configuration. At low speeds the rudder isn't going to be too effective, so perhaps there is some tradeoff, but I'm not sure if it is better or worse, or at what speed the curves of tail wheel authority vs rudder authority cross. I suspect that at the speeds where the rudder is effecive, the wheel is off the ground. With the standard gear length, I have come to believe that you really can't expect to do a three point landing in the KR, but what do I know, mine hasn't flown. When I got my tailwheel endorsement in a Champ, I found that if I thought "land tail first", I ended up making good tailwheel landings... it felt like the tail was landing first, but thats not what was really going on, it was just a way for me to get the correct attitude. It's been a couple of years since I've flown in a tailwheel, so all of that probably doesn't count much anyway. Where did the 14 deg angle at rest come from? Is this the assumed stall attitude? -- Ross Darren Pond wrote: > Hi all > How does a tail dragger behave if the tail wheel pivot is slightly > infront of Rudder pivot point? Because of lengthening the tail I will > need much longer landing gear legs to get the centre line at 14deg well > at rest. I have seen several Formula race planes with wheel under Horiz > Stab and the tail nearly dragging on the tar mat. Is tail wheel > suspension really needed on our light weight a/c's? Any thoughts? > Darren > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:48:35 -0500 To: rossy65@home.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: carterkr2s1@home.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Tail wheel Position Message-ID: <20011112.224937.-264187.2.virgnvs@juno.com> Most stalls are at about 13 Degrees AOA. At 14 Degrees the wing is stalled and you no fly. Virg On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:05:58 -0700 "Ross R. Youngblood" writes: > Darren, > I'm not convinced it really matters too much where the rudder is > vs the > tailwheel > pivot point. The center of mass is still behind the mains, which is > the > primary > issue with the tailwheel configuration. > At low speeds the rudder isn't going to be too effective, so > perhaps > there > is some tradeoff, but I'm not sure if it is better or worse, or at > what > speed > the curves of tail wheel authority vs rudder authority cross. I > suspect > that > at the speeds where the rudder is effecive, the wheel is off the > ground. > With the standard gear length, I have come to believe that you > really > can't expect to do a three point landing in the KR, but what do I > know, > mine hasn't flown. When I got my tailwheel endorsement in a Champ, > I found that if I thought "land tail first", I ended up making good > tailwheel > landings... it felt like the tail was landing first, but thats not > what was > > really going on, it was just a way for me to get the correct > attitude. > It's been a couple of years since I've flown in a tailwheel, so > all of > that probably doesn't count much anyway. > Where did the 14 deg angle at rest come from? Is this the > assumed stall attitude? > -- Ross > > Darren Pond wrote: > > > Hi all > > How does a tail dragger behave if the tail wheel pivot is > slightly > > infront of Rudder pivot point? Because of lengthening the tail I > will > > need much longer landing gear legs to get the centre line at 14deg > well > > at rest. I have seen several Formula race planes with wheel under > Horiz > > Stab and the tail nearly dragging on the tar mat. Is tail wheel > > suspension really needed on our light weight a/c's? Any > thoughts? > > Darren > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply > all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other > system! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other > system! > > ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************