From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 24 Nov 2001 19:27:25 -0000 Issue 327 Date: Saturday, November 24, 2001 11:28 AM krnet Digest 24 Nov 2001 19:27:25 -0000 Issue 327 Topics (messages 7684 through 7703): Re: Todays Engine Activity. 7684 by: Ross Youngblood 7692 by: Tom Crawford Re: More Engine Runup festivities. 7685 by: Ross Youngblood KR2 drawings 7686 by: Serge VIDAL 7693 by: Oscar Zuniga 7703 by: Serge VIDAL rudder pedal blocks 7687 by: nikki Re: Hole finder 7688 by: Ross Youngblood 7689 by: Linda Warner 7696 by: virgnvs.juno.com Thirteen years of building.... 7690 by: Ross Youngblood 7691 by: Ed Janssen 7694 by: Oscar Zuniga more test flying (longitudal stability) 7695 by: Flymaca711689.cs.com Re: Spinner Front bulkhead 7697 by: virgnvs.juno.com William Wynne Video 7698 by: Mark Jones 7699 by: Mark Jones 7700 by: MARVIN MCCOY Re: corvaircraft: Re: KR> William Wynne Video 7701 by: Mark Jones Move 7702 by: Edwin Blocher Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:41:50 -0700 To: virgnvs@juno.com From: Ross Youngblood CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Todays Engine Activity. Message-Id: <20011122193546.SWRE24537.femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx239334-a> 11/22/2001 7:39:42 AM, virgnvs@juno.com wrote: > Ross, Idle adjustment at idle. At idle shut down >the engine by cutting off the fuel. If it speeds up you are too rich, >adjust so it just dies. Took me a minute to figure out what you were saying... but basicly if I shut off fuel and the engine speeds up, I'm too rich. As the engine leans out properly it will pick up speed. Thanks for the tip. > Battery. Tony B says that you can get 7 starts from a fully >charged battery like yours. Recommends no alternator system but recharge >overnight. This is >only if you are using it for starting, not ignition like >you are doing. Virg ( HUFF PUFF ) Well, my ignition system is 12V, but one expects that once the alternator kicks in the drain on the battery is minimal. One of my to do list items is to hook up my Fluke DVM in series with the regulator and see what the alternator current output to the main 12V bus is at various RPM settings and voltage settings. I'm assuming this will vary with different battery charge conditions, but it will give me some baseline data. Somewhere in my construction log I have jotted down what the current output of my alternator is at one or two specific RPM ranges. I got this data from Steve Bennett at great plains, and used it to size my push pull circuit breakers, and 12V bus wiring. I need to review this data. The Compu-Fire ignition has two coils each which require 6A, and there are overlaps so I would expect the current demand to go from 6A to 12A peaks if I were to look at it on a scope. I might actually do this as I can grab a scope from work, and rig up a test circuit... but I would need a poloroid to photograph it, as the scopes I have don't have access to can't dump a .jpg file as some of the newer stuff does. If the alternator doesn't put out at least 12A at 2000 RPM, it would explain why my engine cuts out when the master is disabled. Theoreticly the engine should run with the battery master off if the alternator is supplying enough current. Most of my work so far has been 2000RPM and lower, so I need to try shutting the battery master off at 3500 rpm. > >On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:46:37 -0700 Ross Youngblood >writes: >> >> Just checking on what/how folks set the timing on their VW's. The >> Great Plains specifies >> 28 BTDC assuming no advance mechanism, and therefore, I assume, they >> do not specify >> an RPM setting for this. The VW book specifies various timing >> settings for type I and type IV >> with some of the type I settings being ABTDC. I can't for the life >> of me figure out what I >> decided two years ago when I initially timed the engine, as far as >> RPM and setting. >> >> I decided that if the GPASC book called for 28 BTDC assuming no >> advance, that would be >> equivilant to the Bosch 009 advance at a higher RPM setting. My hot >> rod VW engine book >> has advance curves for various distributors but not the Bosch 009. >> It indicated that by 2500 >> rpm, most of these distributors had all their advance in play. I >> didn't make any notes when I >> initially timed the engine, and with the timing disk in place, it >> was close to 28BTDC even with >> the small adjustments. >> >> I tweeked it a bit today, then played with mixture to get the engine >> to idle smootly at 1000rpm. >> It doesn't want to idle nicely at 600-800 rpm yet. I replaced the >> propeller, and got some >> roughness (backfires) when going up around 2500 rpm this time. My >> hunch is that it was >> running rich, but I'm not 100% confident in my timing setting. >> >> The Ellison manual gives a iterative procedure for getting the idle >> speed adjustment down, >> involving tweeking the idle throttle stop and idle mixture screw, so >> I will play with this some >> more, ideally I would like a smooth idle between 600-800 rpm. >> >> After I leaned the mixture I recorded some higher EGT and CHT >> temperatures. I think I >> saw EGT up around 1100 which gives me more confidence in the EGT >> values. Oil temps >> were also a bit higher today getting closer to 200. Again, my probe >> is in the sump which >> is not where GPASC recommonds as it reads cooler at this location. >> >> The engine starts much easier with the primer in the new location >> aft of the Ellison. >> I verified reliable starts and adjusted idle speed after >> re-installing the carb heat plenum >> in front of the carb. >> >> I wanted to get a survey of what folks with starters are using for >> batteries. I am currenlty >> using a motorcycle battery, which has been taking a beating with >> repeated starts. I had >> hoped that this would be sufficient but thought I would ask if >> anyone else has been >> successful with such a small battery. I've noticed that I get hard >> starts when the battery >> becomes drained, and my working theory is that there is not enough >> voltage for the >> starter and the COMPU-FIRE ignition when this occurs, so it cranks >> but doesn't start >> well. I've got some clever solutions to this problem in mind, but >> the brute force solution >> would be to add some poundage and get a tractor battery or somthing >> else larger. >> >> Ross Youngblood >> rossy65@home.com >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" >> >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >> See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >> AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other >> system! >> >> > Ross Youngblood rossy65@home.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:42:45 -0500 To: rossy65@home.com From: Tom Crawford CC: virgnvs@juno.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Todays Engine Activity. Message-ID: <3BFE5255.493D@ufl.edu> Ross Youngblood wrote: > > > > Well, my ignition system is 12V, but one expects that once the alternator > kicks in the drain on the battery is minimal. One of my to do list items is to > hook up my Fluke DVM in series with the regulator and see what the alternator > current output to the main 12V bus is at various RPM settings and voltage settings. > I'm assuming this will vary with different battery charge conditions, but it will give > me some baseline data. > > > The Compu-Fire ignition has two coils each which require 6A, and there are overlaps > so I would expect the current demand to go from 6A to 12A peaks if I were to look at > it on a scope. If the alternator > doesn't put out at least 12A at 2000 RPM, it would explain why my engine cuts out > when the master is disabled. > > Theoreticly the engine should run with the battery master off if the alternator is supplying > enough current. Most of my work so far has been 2000RPM and lower, so I need to > try shutting the battery master off at 3500 rpm. > > I have the Compufire on a 009 distributor, and a Slick mag on my engine. I found that the alternator in the accesory case is a bit overrated, and the Compufire guzzles electricity. With the Compufire on, I have a large negative drain while the plane is on the ground. In practice, I start on the mag, and don't turn on the Compufire (other than checking it on run up) until I roll onto the active. I then turn it off again on roll out after landing to save battery. Tom Crawford Gainesville, FL N262TC Flying KR2 N???TC Wings RV6A Mailto:toys@ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:55:46 -0700 To: ron.martha@mindspring.com, KRNET From: Ross Youngblood Subject: RE: More Engine Runup festivities. Message-Id: <20011122194942.TBTX539.femail46.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx239334-a> Ron, I need to post my fuel schematic on my website so folks can see it, and flame it or whatever. When I select gravity feed header tank fuel, I bypass both fuel pumps, and feed directly through a GM auto filter (fuel injected car filter), then to the gascolator and onto the Ellison. If I select either L or R tanks, I select from a fuel pump through a glass rough filter, and into the GM auto filter. So when I select gravity feed fuel I don't have to go through a fuel pump. The plan was to select gravity feed fuel if I had a fuel pump failure. Since I use an electrical ignition system, if I loose my electrical system, I'm going to play glider pilot as gravity feed fuel will not do much if there is no spark. I'm considering an upgrade to a dual magneto/electrical system, but so far, I'm not completely convinced that a magneto is any more reliable than the Compu-Fire system coupled with an alternator. In my mind, a magneto would be a secondary system, although I might time it as the primary ignition. Of course, opinions can be changed by a quiet enough cockpit. -- Regards Ross 11/22/2001 9:23:07 AM, "RONALD.FREIBERGER" wrote: > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ross Youngblood [mailto:rossy65@home.com] > Thanks for the post... I guess I would like to know what you mean by >a high "cracking" presssure. The amount of vacuum required to keep >the pump open? Or the pressure provided when the pump is on? > >--- reply ------- >Ross, it's the initial pressure to push fuel through a pump which is not >powered, or failed.. There is a valve in th pump which might restrict the >fuel flow, and not all of them are easy to open. Check the fuel flow with >the pump turned off. The issue (again) is will the Ellison allow the engine >to run with gravity feed from the header tank is there is a pump or >electrical failure. Also, the valve might change a bit with time. > >For that reason, I'm planning my system with a "FREE FLOW ONE WAY CHECK >VALVE" parallleling the fuel pump from the headder tank. Aircraft spruce >P/N 10630. > >In your case (ROSS) that may not be an issue if you're using the FACET pumps >to transfer fuel from wings to main (header), but there has been some >misleading info regarding the unpowered characteristics of the FACET pumps, >and I thought this might be a useful discussion > >Ron Freiberger... >mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com > > > Ross Youngblood rossy65@home.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:27:27 +0200 To: From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: KR2 drawings Message-ID: <009401c17394$3f249280$c504a8c0@sergevateint> ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C173A4.DE022D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would anybody have a very simple drawing of a stock KR2, possibly in = JPEG, Bitmap or any other format? Or an Autocad drawing? I need a side view, and possible a top view. The reason is, I now need = to compile a pilot manual for my KR (new local requirement), and I need = to do the illustrations. (I will happily share my pilot manual with the network once complete) Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C173A4.DE022D80-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:42:49 To: svidal@icon.co.za, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR2 drawings Message-ID: Serge wrote: >Would anybody have a very simple drawing of a stock KR2, possibly >in JPEG, Bitmap or any other format? Or an Autocad drawing? I believe I can help you with that. If you haven't already gotten what you need, email me off-net and I'll see what I can do for you; I have .bmp, .jpg, and .dwg formats, front, top, and side views. They are, as you say, simple... you can see one (but not the one you want), at the bottom of http:www.flysquirrel.net/KR/tango.html Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:27:31 +0200 To: , From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 drawings Message-ID: <004401c1751e$34452560$c504a8c0@sergevateint> Dear unknown netter, who do you think I am? The KR I fly has been completed 7 years ago, and the original builder definitely go a set of plans, duly paid. Personally, I have no intention to rebuild that aircraft, nor to build another one! All I need is a couple simple drawings to put in my flight manual my flight manual! Who am I trying to steal? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Serge VIDAL" Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 7:33 PM Subject: RE: KR> KR2 drawings > I kinda doubt it Serge its like stealing Rand property thats why we have to purchase the plans from Rand. flyKRS > > "Serge VIDAL" wrote: > > >Would anybody have a very simple drawing of a stock KR2, possibly in JPEG, Bitmap or any other format? Or an Autocad drawing? > > > >I need a side view, and possible a top view. The reason is, I now need to compile a pilot manual for my KR (new local requirement), and I need to do the illustrations. > > > >(I will happily share my pilot manual with the network once complete) > > > >Serge VIDAL > >KR2 ZS-WEC > >Johannesburg, South Africa > > > -- > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:40:35 -0800 To: From: "nikki" Subject: rudder pedal blocks Message-ID: <003a01c173b7$7840b300$0101a8c0@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C17374.691A0CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tim, I am about to make mine. I could do a set for you as well. Im = making mine from HDPE( real slippery plastic) . E-mail me at synergy = design@ sopris.net . I was a tool and die maker for almost 20 years. = Jim Sporka ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C17374.691A0CC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:38:59 -0700 To: Bob Unternaehrer From: Ross Youngblood CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: Hole finder Message-Id: <20011123013254.CTNF28134.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx239334-a> Bob, Hey I get the idea... if I get some small pole magnets that will fit in the holes, I should be able to locate the other side by playing with another magnet. Kind of a neat idea... -- Ross 11/22/2001 5:21:32 PM, "Bob Unternaehrer" wrote: > > > > As usual with me when I want something I can't find it. I haven't used > if for a long time and don;'t remember where I found it.....some show I > suppose. I've looked thru several catalogs and don't find it. Basically > as I remember it there were several magnets with different size studs like > things sticking out to insert into the holes. Don't remember how you held > them in but maybe tape. Then a magnetic finder on the outside allowed you > to mark the center of the hole. Sorry I'm no help. > > Blue Skies > Bob Unternaehrer Ross Youngblood rossy65@home.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:59:25 -0500 (EST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: jaslkw@webtv.net (Linda Warner) Subject: Fwd: KR> Re: Hole finder Message-ID: <181-3BFDAD7D-357@storefull-226.iap.bryant.webtv.net> --WebTV-Mail-13277-178 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit If you are talking about finding blind holes like rivet holes, I think you're referring to a product called a "Mag Peck". I bought several a few years ago from a man who invented them. I think I bought them at the regional flyin at Marion Ohio. I believe I have one extra set if any of you want one. I paid about $8 each for them & would let them go for that. I think they will locate 3/32 and 1/8 inch holes. They work by taping the magnets into the hole in one piece and then it has a pin which locates the magnet thru whatever you put over it and then you tap the pin & mark the spot. John Sickafoose, Naples Fl --WebTV-Mail-13277-178 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-101-9.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.149) by storefull-227.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:33:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-101-9.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id 497781D8; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:33:03 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: jaslkw@webtv.net Received: from mailinglists.org (server1.mailinglists.org [63.160.175.18]) by smtpin-101-9.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with SMTP id 6350E185 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:33:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26978 invoked by alias); 23 Nov 2001 01:32:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact krnet-help@mailinglists.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list krnet@mailinglists.org Received: (qmail 26969 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 01:32:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:38:59 -0700 To: Bob Unternaehrer Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Ross Youngblood Reply-To: rossy65@home.com X-Mailer: Opera 5.12 build 932 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20011123013254.CTNF28134.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx239334-a> Subject: KR> Re: Hole finder Bob, Hey I get the idea... if I get some small pole magnets that will fit in the holes, I should be able to locate the other side by playing with another magnet. Kind of a neat idea... -- Ross 11/22/2001 5:21:32 PM, "Bob Unternaehrer" wrote: > > > > As usual with me when I want something I can't find it. I haven't used > if for a long time and don;'t remember where I found it.....some show I > suppose. I've looked thru several catalogs and don't find it. Basically > as I remember it there were several magnets with different size studs like > things sticking out to insert into the holes. Don't remember how you held > them in but maybe tape. Then a magnetic finder on the outside allowed you > to mark the center of the hole. Sorry I'm no help. > > Blue Skies > Bob Unternaehrer Ross Youngblood rossy65@home.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! --WebTV-Mail-13277-178-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:46:29 -0500 To: jaslkw@webtv.net From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: Fwd: KR> Re: Hole finder Message-ID: <20011123.195910.-373739.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Have one in front of me now! Cute little thingy. Agood amount of work for $8.00. Bud Meyer gave me one years ago. Virg On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:59:25 -0500 (EST) jaslkw@webtv.net (Linda Warner) writes: > If you are talking about finding blind holes like rivet holes, I > think > you're referring to a product called a "Mag Peck". I bought several > a > few years ago from a man who invented them. I think I bought them at > the > regional flyin at Marion Ohio. I believe I have one extra set if any > of > you want one. I paid about $8 each for them & would let them go for > that. I think they will locate 3/32 and 1/8 inch holes. They work > by > taping the magnets into the hole in one piece and then it has a pin > which locates the magnet thru whatever you put over it and then you > tap > the pin & mark the spot. John Sickafoose, Naples > Fl > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:08:01 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Thirteen years of building.... Message-Id: <20011123050157.DKJU24537.femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx239334-a> I was going through photos tonight and put together a brief movie which gives folks a feel for what it's like to spend 13 years building a KR. It started out with a before and after photo of my 16 year old daughter one taken in 1988, and another a few months ago in 2001. In the process, I found several other KR construction photos where I was able to drag my daughter into the frame. I'd only recommed it if you have a reasonably good connection as it's a 1.9Mb shockwave file so it will take some time to download for those with modems. If you have DSL or Cable modem you shouldn't notice a wait. http://n541ry.com/TimePasses.html Also, I discovered somthing last week, my wife and I have started taking dancing lessons together. The dance instructor has been telling my wife what a great husband I am for coming willingly to dance lessions, two of his other couples had guys who either lost a poker bet or forgot an aniversary. I have gained major points for going to dance lessons, so I thought I'd pass this on just in case anyone out there needs to make amends for tracking urethane dust on the carpet or somthing like that. I'm not sure dance lessons are somthing you would want to do at the beginning of your project, but perhaps by year five. It's cheaper than flying lessons, in that you don't have to rent a plane. -- Regards Ross Ross Youngblood rossy65@home.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:14:24 -0600 To: , From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: Re: KR> Thirteen years of building.... Message-ID: <000a01c17420$c592eb00$0200a8c0@dad> Ross, Nicely done! I have a pretty fast wireless hookup and the slide show was very enjoyable. Add some appropriate music, and you'll have yourself a real tear-jerker. Your "benchmark" (daughter) is a vivid reminder of how long it takes to build something like this when you have to live your life as well. Dancing? Well, ----ok. :o) Personally, I let my wife plant around 225 trees on our 13 acre property, even though I knew I'd have to mow around them for the next ??? years. :o) Hope you (and all the netters out there) had a great Thanksgiving. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Youngblood" To: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 11:08 PM Subject: KR> Thirteen years of building.... > I was going through photos tonight and put together a brief movie > which gives folks a feel for what it's like to spend 13 years building a KR. > It started out with a before and after photo of my 16 year old daughter > one taken in 1988, and another a few months ago in 2001. In the > process, I found several other KR construction photos where I was > able to drag my daughter into the frame. > I'd only recommed it if you have a reasonably good connection > as it's a 1.9Mb shockwave file so it will take some time to download > for those with modems. If you have DSL or Cable modem you shouldn't > notice a wait. > > http://n541ry.com/TimePasses.html > > Also, I discovered somthing last week, my wife and I have started > taking dancing lessons together. The dance instructor has been telling > my wife what a great husband I am for coming willingly to dance lessions, > two of his other couples had guys who either lost a poker bet or forgot > an aniversary. I have gained major points for going to dance lessons, > so I thought I'd pass this on just in case anyone out there needs to make > amends for tracking urethane dust on the carpet or somthing like that. > I'm not sure dance lessons are somthing you would want to do at the > beginning of your project, but perhaps by year five. It's cheaper than > flying lessons, in that you don't have to rent a plane. > > -- Regards > Ross > > > > > Ross Youngblood > rossy65@home.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:21:00 To: rossy65@home.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Thirteen years of building.... Message-ID: Ross wrote: >I was going through photos tonight and put together a brief movie >which gives folks a feel for what it's like to spend 13 years >building a KR. Very nice, Ross. I think this type of visual information brings this homebuilding stuff back down to the real level, the level where home and family, breakfast cereal and jammies, groceries and lawns- meet epoxy, foam, fiberglass, spruce, and 4130. I like it. Oh, and- I like Mark Jones' site for that reason, too. He puts the kids in the boat, then the cockpit, around the shop- to show that it's a family thing. That's why I'm building in my half of the garage even though it's super tight, messy, and won't work forever. At least I can be at the dinner table one minute and out in the shop ten seconds later. And I can turn on the belt sander whenever I need to pretend that I can't hear somebody calling me from inside the house ;o) Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:38:37 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Flymaca711689@cs.com Subject: more test flying (longitudal stability) Message-ID: <65.1e36f2a3.2930460d@cs.com> --part1_65.1e36f2a3.2930460d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Happy holidays all. I flow the last three days all all things are going good the hardest part have been dealing with the feel of turbulence mine in calm air balls dead center in less in climb then your on the rudder it yaws back and forth if the wind is more then ten miles hour hard to get use to that's all i can find wrong with the kr2? i wonder if winglets help. with the airplane only 14ft 6inces you live with it again pitch roll are great. now get back in the shop and build. by the way my buddy with the pulsar says it does the same thing. Mac --part1_65.1e36f2a3.2930460d_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:24:42 -0500 To: rossy65@home.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: shilocom@c-magic.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Spinner Front bulkhead Message-ID: <20011123.195910.-373739.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Check with Wicks, Virg On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:21:47 -0700 Ross Youngblood writes: > Bob, > 11/22/2001 6:48:19 AM, "Bob Unternaehrer" > wrote: > > >What about the magnetic hole finders. Is your spinner and > bulkheads al or > >SS Bob U. > > Everyting is al. I have a electronic stud finder...what is a > magnetic hole finder? > > Sounds like somthing that physicists use to look for charmed quarks > in the > galaxy to me. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other > system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:27:40 -0600 To: CorvAIRCRAFT , KR-Net From: Mark Jones Subject: William Wynne Video Message-ID: <3BFF059C.1D46EA14@execpc.com> Hello All, We have only seen one or two post to the net as to your thoughts on the William Wynne Video. Please, we would like for all who have viewed the video to please tell us what you think, be it positive or negative. Also, please tell us if you are now in possession of the video so I can advise the rest of the folks on the lists as to when they may receive the video. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated.... -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:54:02 -0600 To: Robert Stone , CorvAIRCRAFT , KR-Net From: Mark Jones Subject: Re: KR> William Wynne Video Message-ID: <3BFF19D8.9D9BDFA3@execpc.com> --------------5421EA81E7D69119E98BC9FA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert, You are number two on your list. Tracy O'Brien of Chehalis, Washington apparently is still in possession of the tape. The tapes were shipped out on Monday 11-12-01. I would hope you receive it soon. Mark Jones Robert Stone wrote: > Mark: I would very much like to know where I am on the list and when I can expect to receive the vido. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Txrlspjs@dashlink.com -------Original Message------- From: Mark Jones Date: Friday, November 23, 2001 20:21:01 To: CorvAIRCRAFT; KR-Net Subject: KR> William Wynne Video Hello All, We have only seen one or two post to the net as to your thoughts on the William Wynne Video. Please, we would like for all who have viewed the video to please tell us what you think, be it positive or negative. Also, please tell us if you are now in possession of the video so I can advise the rest of the folks on the lists as to when they may receive the video. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated.... -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! . > ____________________________________________________ > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html --------------5421EA81E7D69119E98BC9FA Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------FC071B77FA03E9F3074E8FCF" --------------FC071B77FA03E9F3074E8FCF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert,
You are number two on your list. Tracy O'Brien of Chehalis, Washington apparently is still in possession of the tape. The tapes were shipped out on Monday 11-12-01. I would hope you receive it soon.
Mark Jones

Robert Stone wrote:

Mark:  I would very much like to know where I am on the list and when I can expect to receive the vido. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Txrlspjs@dashlink.com 
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Date: Friday, November 23, 2001 20:21:01
Subject: KR> William Wynne Video
 Hello All,
We have only seen one or two post to the net as to your thoughts on the
William Wynne Video. Please, we would like for all who have viewed the
video to please tell us what you think, be it positive or negative.
Also, please tell us if you are now in possession of the video so I can
advise the rest of the folks on the lists as to when they may receive
the video. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated....
--
Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI USA
E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html
 
 

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  --------------FC071B77FA03E9F3074E8FCF Content-Type: application/x-unknown-content-type Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="" --------------FC071B77FA03E9F3074E8FCF-- --------------5421EA81E7D69119E98BC9FA-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:56:43 -0800 To: Mark Jones From: MARVIN MCCOY CC: CorvAIRCRAFT , KR-Net Subject: Re: KR> William Wynne Video Message-ID: <3BFF44AB.A159266A@worldnet.att.net> Hi: I just sent the video on to the next person on the list. It was good to hear William talk about the reason for his crash. (carb ice) The forum put on by Mark Langford was good. The only negative thing I can say about the video was the video camera was placed in the back of the room and made it seem like you were viewing it from far away. Overall it was worth the time to view it. I am looking forward to a video on "How To Put a Corvair Engine Together." Thanks Marvin McCoy mr.marvin@worldnet.att.net Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing Field ------------------------------ Mark Jones wrote: > > Hello All, > We have only seen one or two post to the net as to your thoughts on the > William Wynne Video. Please, we would like for all who have viewed the > video to please tell us what you think, be it positive or negative. > Also, please tell us if you are now in possession of the video so I can > advise the rest of the folks on the lists as to when they may receive > the video. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated.... > -- > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:29:52 -0600 To: corvaircraft@usm.edu From: Mark Jones CC: KR-Net Subject: Re: corvaircraft: Re: KR> William Wynne Video Message-ID: <3BFFAEE0.F8F626E2@execpc.com> Thanks Marvin, George Allen of Marysville, PA you are next on the list so you should be receiving the tape soon. Mark Jones MARVIN MCCOY wrote: > > I just sent the video on to the next person on the list. It was good > to hear William talk about the reason for his crash. (carb ice) The > forum put on by Mark Langford was good. The only negative thing I can > say about the video was the video camera was placed in the back of the > room and made it seem like you were viewing it from far away. Overall > it was worth the time to view it. > -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:41:58 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Move Message-ID: <035301c174f6$2c993720$6d9131cc@cyou.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0350_01C174C3.E0F3BFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are moved in and my project is in the garage. It made the move from = Alabama to Florida with no damage. I will now divide my time between = unpacking and my plane. Does anyone have a WAF drill jig they would loan = out? ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, Florida ------=_NextPart_000_0350_01C174C3.E0F3BFC0-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************