From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 3 Dec 2001 23:11:50 -0000 Issue 334 Date: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:12 PM krnet Digest 3 Dec 2001 23:11:50 -0000 Issue 334 Topics (messages 7877 through 7906): Viruses 7877 by: Eric Evezard 7904 by: Eric Evezard Re: SHORTEN PROP 7878 by: gleone 7879 by: Robert X. Cringely 7895 by: Daniel Heath 7897 by: gleone 7902 by: Stuart Deal Re: Seat belts 7880 by: Peter Johnson 7882 by: Oscar Zuniga 7883 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout 7890 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER Re: Subaru on KR2S... 7881 by: w.g. kirkland Looking for Bill McCraw 7884 by: The Pond Family kr in colorado 7885 by: nikki 7886 by: larry flesner Re: VIRUS ALERT!! Check Carefully 7887 by: BillStarrs 7899 by: macwood 7900 by: flykr2s.execpc.com 7903 by: David Busby Re: VIRUS ALERT!! Check CarefullyHOAX ALERT 7888 by: Frank Ross hoaxes 7889 by: Oscar Zuniga 7891 by: Mark Langford 7906 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER USE OF PEEL- PLY 7892 by: David Hartz 7893 by: Livingstone, Danny (DJ) 7894 by: Daniel Heath Re: New owner & member 7896 by: Phillip Matheson 7898 by: Mark Langford Re: Lavond Loynd virus 7901 by: Ross Youngblood ENOUGH !!! 7905 by: Eric Evezard Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:09:43 +0200 To: KR MAILING LIST From: Eric Evezard Subject: Viruses Message-id: <000001c17b4d$92ae9de0$80ce07c4@user> ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C17B5C.84636A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Netters, I have a policy not to open any attachments from a person I dont know = personally.I have received the Lavond Loynd virus,The Seven Dwarves,and = others.In addition I have the Nortons system,so I have had no = problems.Keep up your fine newsletters.I thoroughly enjoy them.Thanks = for the virus warnings. Best Regards, Eric Evezard, South Africa ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C17B5C.84636A40-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 21:16:03 +0200 To: KR MAILING LIST From: Eric Evezard Subject: Viruses Message-id: <000001c17c30$47f382a0$e1ce07c4@user> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C17C3F.B6A5FD40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Netters, Firstly to Dave Christiansen,I think Ross has given the gen.on the = Lavond Loynd virus and I cant add to it.Secondly to the delightful = couple who sent a blank e mail with an attatchment, (let them remain = nameless for now) ---try again.!!!!!! =20 I hope to have some real KR 2 S news later (nearly there) Best Regards , Eric Evezard, South Africa ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C17C3F.B6A5FD40-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 10:21:11 -0700 To: Mark Langford From: gleone CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> SHORTEN PROP Message-ID: <3C0A6307.4C8883C@tritel.net> Just my 2 cents worth, but with something as critical as that whirling mass at the end of the crankshaft, I would have the manufacturer do the shortening rather than fight trying to balance the thing. Even if they charge for it, it would be infinitely less frustrating and a whole lot more reassuring. Otherwise, I'd say buy another prop. Again, just my 2 cents worth. Mark Langford wrote: > Philip J. Visconti > > > I've tried writing this question 3 times now. ( I'm still not sure > > someone won't suggest running prop near the ground.) How do you shorten a > > wooden prop ? Or where can I get a wooden prop shortened ? > > Personally, I would use a bandsaw and dress up the sharp edges with a palm > sander. The prop manufacturer can certainly shorten it for you, and might > do it for free. Some folks have no qualms about shortening it themselves, > but if you ask to ask the question... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:14:06 -0800 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR> SHORTEN PROP Message-Id: There are two questions here: 1) How do I shorten a prop?, and; 2) How do I change the pitch of a prop? If Props Inc. suggests a 52x49 for the KR-2, first find how they measure this. Every prop maker does this a bit differently so it is important to know both what the guy at Props Inc. means AND what are the current measurements of the prop you intend to shorten. The issue isn't the length but the pitch. Using the Props Inc. technique maybe that 56x45 is really a 56x44 or 46. It is important to know what you are starting with. Now that you know this information and we are talking apples and apples, the next thing to do is calculate where to cut and where to measure the new pitch. The first is easy. We are taking four inches off the total length which means two inches from each tip. But don't cut yet. Now remeasure the uncut prop to determine the station at which you would determine the pitch after shortening. Typically (and this is the information you'd get from Props Inc on their particular technique) this measurement is done at the 75 percent station, 75 percent of the distance from the middle of the center hole to the tip. If that's the technique Props Inc. uses, the original pitch was measured at (56/2)*.75=21. That's 21 inches from the middle of the center hole, though it is easier to measure from the tip (56/2)-21=7 (7 inches in from the tip). Now do the same calculation for the shortened blade, but remember not to cut yet! (52/2)*.75=19.5 (52/2)-19.5=6.5 inches from the NEW tip. At this point you'd measure the angle of the blade at the original pitch determination point and at the new pitch determination point for the shortened blade. This angle is measure between a flat surface and the BACK of the blade. Measuring the back isn't precisely accurate since not all sections are flat on the bottom (especially closer tot he hub) but it doesn't really matter since every prop maker in America measures the back. You aren't trying to get a 52x49 prop as much as what Props Inc. thinks is a 52x49 prop and he measures the back of the blade (I know, since I have one of his props on my Fisher Youngster). Now that we have the angle information we have to turn that into a pitch reading. The easiest way to do this is to pull out Fred Weick's NACA technical notes on this subject from 1926 (http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/reports/1926/naca-tn-237/naca-tn-237.pdf). Yeah, but who is really going to go to all this trouble, right? Now I'll let you in on a little secret that some prop makers don't even know. Most propellers are designed with a common pitch distribution. If your prop maker is especially technically savvy, he'll pull out the computer and design a prop for minimum induced loss, which will give it a unique pitch distribution or twist. BUT MOST PROP MAKERS DON'T DO THAT. They use the same twist on every prop they make and certainly the same twist on every VW prop. So how do we turn a 56x45 prop into a 52x49? We cut two inches off each tip. You can run all the calculations as I describe, but I'll bet a dollar the new pitch comes out right on the money. Cut with a hand saw. Dress the tips with a belt sander. Either dress them straight like an old Mooney wingtip or, if you want to get fancy, dress them at a 45 degree angle like a more modern wingtip (you'll get a bit better performance that way). Balance the prop using a lawn mower blade balancer from Sears. Sand to get the balance close then use layers of paint or varnish to get the final balance right. Bob >I've tried writing this question 3 times now. ( I'm still not sure >someone won't suggest running prop near the ground.) How do you shorten a >wooden prop ? Or where can I get a wooden prop shortened ? Please keep in >mind that I would like to be able to use it safely. > >The prop is 56x45 and Props Inc. suggests a 52x49 for a Revmaster 2100D >on a KR-2. Someone would like to buy the prop if it can be cut down about >2 inches. I'm not sure of the type of wood. It was made by Cowley, Inc of >Mojave Airport; Mojave, CA. I can't seem to find any information about >that company. It was part of a package for a Q2 with the Revmaster engine >that the original builder did not complete. > >Phil -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 05:54:23 -0500 To: "gleone" , "Mark Langford" From: "Daniel Heath" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> SHORTEN PROP Message-ID: <005201c17be8$df65bba0$592b5d0c@scana.com> I would buy a prop from Ed Sterba. The reason for this is that he has always been there and stands behind his props 110%. I know because I dinged one and he offered me instructions on how to fix it myself and also offered to fix it at no charge to me. I chose to let him fix it because I am a LAY person when it comes to props. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "gleone" To: "Mark Langford" Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: Re: KR> SHORTEN PROP > Just my 2 cents worth, but with something as critical as that whirling mass at > the end of the crankshaft, I would have the manufacturer do the shortening > rather than fight trying to balance the thing. Even if they charge for it, it > would be infinitely less frustrating and a whole lot more reassuring. > Otherwise, I'd say buy another prop. Again, just my 2 cents worth. > > Mark Langford wrote: > > > Philip J. Visconti > > > > > I've tried writing this question 3 times now. ( I'm still not sure > > > someone won't suggest running prop near the ground.) How do you shorten a > > > wooden prop ? Or where can I get a wooden prop shortened ? > > > > Personally, I would use a bandsaw and dress up the sharp edges with a palm > > sander. The prop manufacturer can certainly shorten it for you, and might > > do it for free. Some folks have no qualms about shortening it themselves, > > but if you ask to ask the question... > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 05:04:19 -0700 To: Daniel Heath From: gleone CC: Mark Langford , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> SHORTEN PROP Message-ID: <3C0B6A43.E70E8622@tritel.net> --------------F211B6278F5E77A6B24AFD19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree. Building the plane is easy. Building or modifying or repairing a prop is more of an art than a craft. Some would say a "black art". (Oops! Did I take an ounce too many off this side? No problem! I'll take two off the other!) ;-) Daniel Heath wrote: > I would buy a prop from Ed Sterba. The reason for this is that he has > always been there and stands behind his props 110%. I know because I dinged > one and he offered me instructions on how to fix it myself and also offered > to fix it at no charge to me. I chose to let him fix it because I am a LAY > person when it comes to props. > > Daniel R. Heath > > WWW.EAA242.ORG > > See our KR2 at: > > www.JerryMahurin.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gleone" > To: "Mark Langford" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:21 PM > Subject: Re: KR> SHORTEN PROP > > > Just my 2 cents worth, but with something as critical as that whirling > mass at > > the end of the crankshaft, I would have the manufacturer do the shortening > > rather than fight trying to balance the thing. Even if they charge for > it, it > > would be infinitely less frustrating and a whole lot more reassuring. > > Otherwise, I'd say buy another prop. Again, just my 2 cents worth. > > > > Mark Langford wrote: > > > > > Philip J. Visconti > > > > > > > I've tried writing this question 3 times now. ( I'm still not sure > > > > someone won't suggest running prop near the ground.) How do you > shorten a > > > > wooden prop ? Or where can I get a wooden prop shortened ? > > > > > > Personally, I would use a bandsaw and dress up the sharp edges with a > palm > > > sander. The prop manufacturer can certainly shorten it for you, and > might > > > do it for free. Some folks have no qualms about shortening it > themselves, > > > but if you ask to ask the question... > > > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > > > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > > > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! --------------F211B6278F5E77A6B24AFD19-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 09:15:14 +0000 To: Mark Langford From: Stuart Deal CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> SHORTEN PROP Message-ID: <3C0B42A2.A63AB9D7@sonic.net> Philip, If you do it yourself, try doing one end first, longer than you want the final cut. This way you can practice, and see how it goes. If you decide not to do it yourself after trying, you have wood left for the expert. You can leave the other end for an example. I would trace out the shape of the current ends with center allignment. Once you prove to yourself that you know how, by shortening some fraction of final on one or both ends, then make the final cuts and finish sanding. You can become knowledgeable through practice instead of boldness. Why not try your hand, Stuart Mark Langford wrote: > > Philip J. Visconti > > > I've tried writing this question 3 times now. ( I'm still not sure > > someone won't suggest running prop near the ground.) How do you shorten a > > wooden prop ? Or where can I get a wooden prop shortened ? > > Personally, I would use a bandsaw and dress up the sharp edges with a palm > sander. The prop manufacturer can certainly shorten it for you, and might > do it for free. Some folks have no qualms about shortening it themselves, > but if you ask to ask the question... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 12:29:38 -0800 To: , "The Pond Family" From: "Peter Johnson" Subject: Re: KR> Seat belts Message-ID: <001001c17b70$3216e780$2209eccf@peter> Hi Darren. What I'm about to say is not applicable to car seatbelt ARRANGEMENTS, but your question has prompted me to discuss the USE of car seatbelts in airplanes. It's a topic that has come up in various inspections that I've done over the years. If one were to get some car seatbelts and do some testing, one would find that some car seatbelts WILL NOT RELEASE WHILE UNDER LOAD! Hanging upside down in a seatbelt is something new car designers should consider in the future. The use of NEW car seatbelts therefore IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR USE IN AIRCRAFT. (Plus, trying to get your mitt covered fingers into that silly little button hole should almost preclude their use in cars north of the iceline!) However... Remember when seatbelts first became standard equipment in cars? Remember the seatbelt buckle that had the big, grab the whole thing and pull lever, the ones that looked like the seatbelts in commercial aircraft and many small aircraft? If you were to rig your favourite easy chair up to the shop ceiling, fit the OLD STYLE of seatbelt to it, and if you were to climb upside down and try it all on for size, then you would find that SOME of the old style car seatbelts will quite happily drop you on your nogin when you pulled the lever. (And, you can happily pull the lever even when wearing leather mitts with three pair of knit wool gloves inside!) So, is it acceptable to use the OLD style of car seatbelts in an aircraft? Perhaps. This is something that you will want to ponder while recovering from the drop on your head, or while you're still trying to get out of the easy chair. Food for thought.... PS, Darren, I'm running some prelimanary numbers now. mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ----- Original Message ----- Subject: KR> Seat belts > HI Netters > Is it ever exceptable to use the car seat belt arrangment like the new > Cessna use or is this just asking for trouble? > Darren ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 19:31:58 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Seat belts Message-ID: Darren writes: >Is it ever exceptable to use the car seat belt arrangment like >the new Cessna use or is this just asking for trouble? As far as I know, there are no regulations requiring anything specific on seatbelts for homebuilts. You could take a piece of rope and tie yourself in, or use zip-ties, or get some pink ones off a Barbie car if you wanted to, I guess. That's not to say that we needn't use good practice or good judgement when selecting them, but rather that there isn't anything specific that an examiner could fault you on when going for your inspection. But if certified aircraft builders are using something, it should be OK for homebuilders too, right? And if automakers use them, it should work just fine in airplanes. A "G" in a car is the same as a "G" in an airplane. Provide secure anchors, use a good solid design, and don't look back. That said, heed Peter's comment about ease of unbuckling the thing. Personally, I'm using a 5-point harness with wide straps that I got from Summit Racing. You can't "side-slip" out of the shoulder harness to reach across the cabin when you're in a 5-point like you can with the across-the-chest type, but I'll live with that. One grab of the lever, and I'm out. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 15:52:40 -0500 To: taildrags@hotmail.com From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Seat belts Message-ID: <20011202.155240.-588871.0.klw1953@juno.com> I just got my 2S inspected last May and the first thing the DAR asked when he opened the canopy was: are those seat belts approved for flight? I bought aircraft seat belts but it seemed to me like auto belts would have failed, but i'm not possitive. On Sun, 02 Dec 2001 19:31:58 "Oscar Zuniga" writes: > Darren writes: > >Is it ever exceptable to use the car seat belt arrangment like > >the new Cessna use or is this just asking for trouble? > > As far as I know, there are no regulations requiring anything > specific on > seatbelts for homebuilts. You could take a piece of rope and tie > yourself > in, or use zip-ties, or get some pink ones off a Barbie car if you > wanted > to, I guess. That's not to say that we needn't use good practice or > good > judgement when selecting them, but rather that there isn't anything > specific > that an examiner could fault you on when going for your inspection. > But if > certified aircraft builders are using something, it should be OK for > > homebuilders too, right? And if automakers use them, it should work > just > fine in airplanes. A "G" in a car is the same as a "G" in an > airplane. > Provide secure anchors, use a good solid design, and don't look > back. > > That said, heed Peter's comment about ease of unbuckling the thing. > > Personally, I'm using a 5-point harness with wide straps that I got > from > Summit Racing. You can't "side-slip" out of the shoulder harness to > reach > across the cabin when you're in a 5-point like you can with the > across-the-chest type, but I'll live with that. One grab of the > lever, and > I'm out. > > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, Oregon > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other > system! > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 20:35:49 -0500 To: "Oscar Zuniga" , From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: RE: KR> Seat belts Message-ID: Oscar said; As far as I know, there are no regulations requiring anything specific on seatbelts for homebuilts. You could take a piece of rope and tie yourself in, or use zip-ties, or get some pink ones off a Barbie car if you wanted to, I guess. ========================= The experiment in EXPERIMENTAL category is letting a bunch of amateurs built their own aircraft, not tying yourself in with a tie-wrap to experimentally determine whether it'll work. Some of you will encounter DAR's that take their work seriously. If all else fails, use your head. Oscar, I know you were stretching to make a point, but every "experimenter" potentially endangers or enhances my opportunity to enjoy a wonderful hobby. Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 14:06:37 -0500 To: "w.g. kirkland" , "Willy Trinker" , "krnet" From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: Re: Subaru on KR2S... Message-ID: <007901c17b64$78326840$3eb45bd1@utboopki> W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "w.g. kirkland" To: "Willy Trinker" Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Subaru on KR2S... > Willy; Glad to hear from you. I am still working on KR and haven't yet got > my engine running or installed. > Dave Johnson used to sell the plans for his R-drive but quit when he found > groups were making multiple copies from one set of plans. I stumbled on one > such group who had made 12 r-drives. Their machinist offered me the last set > of machined pieces for $1000. I told Dave what I had and paid him for a set > of plans although I got the set with the parts. Dave was nice enough to send > me a new set of drawings because they keep updating the design. He has been > excellent about sending me drawings and giving me advice. > I had him make up an engine mount for me and his price was very reasonable > especially as it even included the "lord" style mounts. > I've enjoyed building up the drive but it's a lot of work and unless you > have access to a machine shop I suggest you buy the whole thing from him. He > also gives a lot of suggestions on how to convert the engine. > Let me know how you are making out. > I also built a set of dual controls that seem to work real well. Will put > the design on Marks site one day. > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Willy Trinker" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 9:27 PM > Subject: Subaru on KR2S... > > > > Hello there, > > > > I am writing in response to a blirp I found on the KRnet in regards of > your > > plane. I am building also a Kr2s (tail wheel version) and have a Ea81 that > > will be converted for use. Any little tricks you found out during > > installation or what worked and/or what you would change would certainly > be > > greatly appreciated on my end. So far I am planning on using a Reductions > > gear drive from Dave Johnson in Manitoba. Looking forward hearing from > you, > > Willy T. > > > > Plan #481 in Logan Lake, BC. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 16:23:00 -0800 To: krnet From: The Pond Family Subject: Looking for Bill McCraw Message-ID: <3C0AC5E4.EACDE7D9@rogers.com> HI Bill any one that know's his address. Please send drop me a line. Looking for AZUSA 5.00 x 5 rims and tires. Thought I would look for second hand before I purchase from Tracy O'Brian. I can't wait to get a pair of his disc brakes. Darren Pond ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:18:43 -0800 To: From: "nikki" Subject: kr in colorado Message-ID: <006701c17b90$122b01c0$0101a8c0@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C17B4D.02E2C9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glenn, I am in carbondale co. have boat stage starting to glass and do = controls, if you want to see one under construction. I was told there is = a guy in Longnont that has a real nice one, but I cant remember what his = name is. I tried about a year ago to get in touch with him, but never = could find him. e-mail me or phone 970-704-0966 . good luck , Jim=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C17B4D.02E2C9C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 17:29:32 -0600 To: From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> kr in colorado Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011202172932.0087e8c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> I was told there is a guy in Longnont that has a real nice one, but I cant remember what his name is. I tried about a year ago to get in touch with him, but never could find him. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++ Jim, The guy in Longmont (I think it is) is Steve Alderman. He has (had) a standard KR2 taildragger with a hopped up C85 that was a real screamer. He attended several fly-in's . Nice fellow. His registration is still on the records. (5276J) Check it out on the net. It may give you the info you need to contact him. Seems like he won one of the S.& F. races for under 100 hp one year. His KR is yellow with large wheel pants. Good luck. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 17:04:26 -0700 To: "KR-net" From: "BillStarrs" Subject: Fw: VIRUS ALERT!! Check Carefully Message-ID: <002e01c17b8e$12e2a3e0$02defea9@bstarrs> ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C17B53.65FF0B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Fatcat412@aol.com=20 To: pamis@aristotle.net ; medic2816@hotmail.com ; lbsingin@aristotle.net = ; Beaverman@texramp.com ; TBosche@texramp.com ; gid@cei.net ; = sybil@cei.net ; Smile2cb@aol.com ; shirtman@airmail.net ; = MsSisterP@aol.com ; PSAudio@aol.com ; lcresse@ailins.com ; = ryan1999@juno.com ; Bmfrosch@home.com ; hootjr84@hotmail.com ; = KHayes1332@aol.com ; KHayes8325@aol.com ; MaryDonald@worldnet.att.net ; = bmcneese@homel.com ; mmpnut59@msn.com ; bstarrs@cybertrails.com ; = JJTERRELL@juno.com ; Rookie303@aol.com ; misswheel@juno.com ; = ADWOOLF@aol.com ; RWOOLF23@aol.com ; CRWOOLF@aol.com ; SWOOLF88@aol.com = ; jdl@branson.net ; RichandLois@aol.com ; lhermann@wavecom.net ; = OTroutRes@aol.com ; RGold78018@aol.com ; BobPattyM@aol.com ; = WLB470@aol.com ; NCB3901@aol.com ; mtbear4@home.com ; Brocksob@glade.net = ; WilsonSoccerMo@aol.com ; AFPCAFoshJ@aol.com ; Stegmang@aol.com ; = BarbCollierABC@aol.com ; BERTAJC1@aol.com ; arparks@eaze.net ; = PRose205@peoplepc.com ; CKM567@yahoo.com ; MemaPampa@aol.com ; = Gruberly@aol.com ; bobfrancia@hotmail.com ; DDillin618@aol.com ; = horsefeathers2109@altavista.com ; Jim.Brock@banctec.com ; = emeyebe@earthlink.net ; RJ102981@aol.com ; Pchaloup@cswnet.com ; = PETEROMMEL@aol.com ; pchsat@gateway.net ; skipper10@peoplepc.com ; = kkrueger00@msn.com ; faithbaptist@futura.net ; lmrench@quixnet.net ; = Donnaburke47@hotmail.com ; HUL1812@email.msn.com ; ramcneese1@yahoo.com = ; TerryAndKelly2@aol.com ; bryant78@yahoo.com ; mpilkilton@keyad.com ; = sjgandy@swbell.net ; sofatoye@sofatoye.com=20 Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: VIRUS ALERT!! Check Carefully I found this thing on my computer too. You had better check yours! It = may have been transmitted to yours. It is supposed to be a timed = release one so I don't think it has done any damage yet. Get it off now = if you have it. Jim Burke With apologies to each of you, I received the below notice from a friend = and I did, indeed, find the virus on my machine. The steps to remove = it are very simple and follow. Again, my apologies. Cathy=20 > >=20 > > SIMPLE directions you can delete it off of your hard=20 > > drive. It is time-released virus, so Norton and=20 > > Macafee Anti-virus don't pick it up until it's too=20 > > late.=20 > >=20 > > Click on "start"=20 > > Choose "find" or "search"=20 > > Choose "files and folders"=20 > > Select "find" Select "C drive"=20 > > Name of file to search for: SULFNBK.EXE=20 > > If you find this file, DO NOT OPEN IT! Select by right=20 > > clicking on your mouse and DELETE it. Then close the=20 > > window and empty your RECYCLE BIN. The good news is=20 > > that YOU HAVE ELIMINATED THE VIRUS ON YOUR COMPUTER.=20 > > The bad news is that you have transmitted this virus=20 > > to anyone you may have sent=20 > > e-mails to in the last month. Thus the reason for=20 > > this message. Please contact everyone in your address=20 > > book and pass this message along.=20 > >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C17B53.65FF0B80-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:30:17 -0000 To: "BillStarrs" From: "macwood" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> Fw: VIRUS ALERT!! Check Carefully Message-ID: <001101c05d35$90859fa0$232f3c3e@tinypc> Bill- According to symantec this is a hoax first spotted in Brazil. I followed "Cathy's" instructions,and followed them down to thefile "SULFNBK.EXE",was about to delete when I smelt a rat! -What is that file anyway? Cheers Mac----- Original Message ----- From: BillStarrs To: KR-net Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:04 AM Subject: KR> Fw: VIRUS ALERT!! Check Carefully ----- Original Message ----- From: Fatcat412@aol.com To: pamis@aristotle.net ; medic2816@hotmail.com ; lbsingin@aristotle.net ; Beaverman@texramp.com ; TBosche@texramp.com ; gid@cei.net ; sybil@cei.net ; Smile2cb@aol.com ; shirtman@airmail.net ; MsSisterP@aol.com ; PSAudio@aol.com ; lcresse@ailins.com ; ryan1999@juno.com ; Bmfrosch@home.com ; hootjr84@hotmail.com ; KHayes1332@aol.com ; KHayes8325@aol.com ; MaryDonald@worldnet.att.net ; bmcneese@homel.com ; mmpnut59@msn.com ; bstarrs@cybertrails.com ; JJTERRELL@juno.com ; Rookie303@aol.com ; misswheel@juno.com ; ADWOOLF@aol.com ; RWOOLF23@aol.com ; CRWOOLF@aol.com ; SWOOLF88@aol.com ; jdl@branson.net ; RichandLois@aol.com ; lhermann@wavecom.net ; OTroutRes@aol.com ; RGold78018@aol.com ; BobPattyM@aol.com ; WLB470@aol.com ; NCB3901@aol.com ; mtbear4@home.com ; Brocksob@glade.net ; WilsonSoccerMo@aol.com ; AFPCAFoshJ@aol.com ; Stegmang@aol.com ; BarbCollierABC@aol.com ; BERTAJC1@aol.com ; arparks@eaze.net ; PRose205@peoplepc.com ; CKM567@yahoo.com ; MemaPampa@aol.com ; Gruberly@aol.com ; bobfrancia@hotmail.com ; DDillin618@aol.com ; horsefeathers2109@altavista.com ; Jim.Brock@banctec.com ; emeyebe@earthlink.net ; RJ102981@aol.com ; Pchaloup@cswnet.com ; PETEROMMEL@aol.com ; pchsat@gateway.net ; skipper10@peoplepc.com ; kkrueger00@msn.com ; faithbaptist@futura.net ; lmrench@quixnet.net ; Donnaburke47@hotmail.com ; HUL1812@email.msn.com ; ramcneese1@yahoo.com ; TerryAndKelly2@aol.com ; bryant78@yahoo.com ; mpilkilton@keyad.com ; sjgandy@swbell.net ; sofatoye@sofatoye.com Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: VIRUS ALERT!! Check Carefully I found this thing on my computer too. You had better check yours! It may have been transmitted to yours. It is supposed to be a timed release one so I don't think it has done any damage yet. Get it off now if you have it. Jim Burke With apologies to each of you, I received the below notice from a friend and I did, indeed, find the virus on my machine. The steps to remove it are very simple and follow. Again, my apologies. Cathy > > > > SIMPLE directions you can delete it off of your hard > > drive. It is time-released virus, so Norton and > > Macafee Anti-virus don't pick it up until it's too > > late. > > > > Click on "start" > > Choose "find" or "search" > > Choose "files and folders" > > Select "find" Select "C drive" > > Name of file to search for: SULFNBK.EXE > > If you find this file, DO NOT OPEN IT! Select by right > > clicking on your mouse and DELETE it. Then close the > > window and empty your RECYCLE BIN. The good news is > > that YOU HAVE ELIMINATED THE VIRUS ON YOUR COMPUTER. > > The bad news is that you have transmitted this virus > > to anyone you may have sent > > e-mails to in the last month. Thus the reason for > > this message. Please contact everyone in your address > > book and pass this message along. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:39:50 -0600 (CST) To: "macwood" From: flykr2s@execpc.com Cc: "BillStarrs" , Subject: Re: KR> Fw: VIRUS ALERT!! Check Carefully Message-Id: <200112031439.IAA13061@nm0.nwbl.wi.voyager.net> That file allows your computer to read long file names. Seems Bill forgot about this as he flamed me for making this same post several months back. Mark Jones > Bill- > According to symantec this is a hoax first spotted in Brazil. I followed > "Cathy's" instructions,and followed them down to thefile "SULFNBK.EXE",was > about to delete when I smelt a rat! -What is that file anyway? > Cheers Mac----- Original Message ----- > From: BillStarrs > To: KR-net > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:04 AM > Subject: KR> Fw: VIRUS ALERT!! Check Carefully > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fatcat412@aol.com > To: pamis@aristotle.net ; medic2816@hotmail.com ; lbsingin@aristotle.net ; > Beaverman@texramp.com ; TBosche@texramp.com ; gid@cei.net ; sybil@cei.net ; > Smile2cb@aol.com ; shirtman@airmail.net ; MsSisterP@aol.com ; > PSAudio@aol.com ; lcresse@ailins.com ; ryan1999@juno.com ; Bmfrosch@home.com > ; hootjr84@hotmail.com ; KHayes1332@aol.com ; KHayes8325@aol.com ; > MaryDonald@worldnet.att.net ; bmcneese@homel.com ; mmpnut59@msn.com ; > bstarrs@cybertrails.com ; JJTERRELL@juno.com ; Rookie303@aol.com ; > misswheel@juno.com ; ADWOOLF@aol.com ; RWOOLF23@aol.com ; CRWOOLF@aol.com ; > SWOOLF88@aol.com ; jdl@branson.net ; RichandLois@aol.com ; > lhermann@wavecom.net ; OTroutRes@aol.com ; RGold78018@aol.com ; > BobPattyM@aol.com ; WLB470@aol.com ; NCB3901@aol.com ; mtbear4@home.com ; > Brocksob@glade.net ; WilsonSoccerMo@aol.com ; AFPCAFoshJ@aol.com ; > Stegmang@aol.com ; BarbCollierABC@aol.com ; BERTAJC1@aol.com ; > arparks@eaze.net ; PRose205@peoplepc.com ; CKM567@yahoo.com ; > MemaPampa@aol.com ; Gruberly@aol.com ; bobfrancia@hotmail.com ; > DDillin618@aol.com ; horsefeathers2109@altavista.com ; Jim.Brock@banctec.com > ; emeyebe@earthlink.net ; RJ102981@aol.com ; Pchaloup@cswnet.com ; > PETEROMMEL@aol.com ; pchsat@gateway.net ; skipper10@peoplepc.com ; > kkrueger00@msn.com ; faithbaptist@futura.net ; lmrench@quixnet.net ; > Donnaburke47@hotmail.com ; HUL1812@email.msn.com ; ramcneese1@yahoo.com ; > TerryAndKelly2@aol.com ; bryant78@yahoo.com ; mpilkilton@keyad.com ; > sjgandy@swbell.net ; sofatoye@sofatoye.com > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 10:55 AM > Subject: VIRUS ALERT!! Check Carefully > > > I found this thing on my computer too. You had better check yours! It may > have been transmitted to yours. It is supposed to be a timed release one so > I don't think it has done any damage yet. Get it off now if you have it. > Jim Burke > > > With apologies to each of you, I received the below notice from a friend and > I did, indeed, find the virus on my machine. The steps to remove it are > very simple and follow. Again, my apologies. Cathy > > > > > > > SIMPLE directions you can delete it off of your hard > > > drive. It is time-released virus, so Norton and > > > Macafee Anti-virus don't pick it up until it's too > > > late. > > > > > > Click on "start" > > > Choose "find" or "search" > > > Choose "files and folders" > > > Select "find" Select "C drive" > > > Name of file to search for: SULFNBK.EXE > > > If you find this file, DO NOT OPEN IT! Select by right > > > clicking on your mouse and DELETE it. Then close the > > > window and empty your RECYCLE BIN. The good news is > > > that YOU HAVE ELIMINATED THE VIRUS ON YOUR COMPUTER. > > > The bad news is that you have transmitted this virus > > > to anyone you may have sent > > > e-mails to in the last month. Thus the reason for > > > this message. Please contact everyone in your address > > > book and pass this message along. > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 13:24:43 -0600 To: BillStarrs From: "David Busby" CC: KR-net Subject: Re: KR> Fw: VIRUS ALERT!! Check Carefully Message-ID: <3C0BD17B.2030807@jefcoed.com> There's a good reason you found it--it's supposed to be there! It is NOT a virus. It is a Windows file. This is another hoax that has gone around for awhile. DON'T DELETE THIS FILE! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:18:59 -0800 (PST) To: BillStarrs , KR-net From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Fw: VIRUS ALERT!! Check CarefullyHOAX ALERT Message-ID: <20011203001859.88384.qmail@web14002.mail.yahoo.com> BILL, This one keeps coming up. It is a hoax. Check: http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/hoaxes/sulfnbk.html You may want to keep this web address in your favorites file. Wouldn't you just love to get your hands on the ones who start the hoaxes too? Frank in San Antonio ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 00:39:49 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: hoaxes Message-ID: >Wouldn't you just love to get your hands on the ones who >start the hoaxes too? Yes, I would. I thought after the Sept. 11 thing people might start getting serious about cracking down on some of these dorks, but it only seems to have gotten worse. I typically start a session checking email by working my way backwards through the email deleting all the offers to refinance the house, play roulette online, earn billions overnight, lose weight while sleeping, meeting lonely Russian women, etc.- then move on to the "pass this along to 100 friends" and "warning- read this!" posts, swinging my virtual machete through the jungle of !@#$%^&* until I end up with just the good stuff. Usually, 2/3 of what's in my box is the !@#$%^&* But every now and then, my machete slashes a good one! And every now and then there is a really good hoax in there, too; like the day I opened a post from Mark Langford to KRNet, where he offered his KR2S project for sale. You have to watch Mark- he does this every April Fool's day. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 22:12:27 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> hoaxes Message-ID: <003701c17bb0$b89e09b0$7600a8c0@athlon600> OZ wrote: >...like the day I opened a post > from Mark Langford to KRNet, where he offered his KR2S project for sale. > You have to watch Mark- he does this every April Fool's day. Aw man! Now you've ruined it for me. I was gonna recycle that one this year! Now I'll have to think harder... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:11:48 -0500 To: "Mark Langford" , From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: RE: KR> hoaxes Message-ID: No prolem; we'll be asking again "how many layers of cloth on the wing", and will be numb to your hoax. Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Langford [mailto:langford@hiwaay.net] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 11:12 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> hoaxes OZ wrote: >...like the day I opened a post > from Mark Langford to KRNet, where he offered his KR2S project for sale. > You have to watch Mark- he does this every April Fool's day. Aw man! Now you've ruined it for me. I was gonna recycle that one this year! Now I'll have to think harder... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 21:13:09 -0800 (PST) To: Mark Langford , krnet@mailinglists.org From: David Hartz Subject: USE OF PEEL- PLY Message-ID: <20011203051309.58762.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com> HEY FOLKS CAN I GET SOME FEEDBACK ON WORKING WITH PEEL-PLY.I PLAN TO START F-G WORK ON MY STUB-WINGS AND FUSELAGE HERE SOON.PRO'S & CONS WOULD BE HELPFULLLLL!!!!A PRAYER WOULD NOT HURT EITHER. DAVE > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > some other system! > ===== DAVID HARTZ,WILLITS,CALIF. DEWRENCHER@PRODIGY.NET __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:46:03 +0200 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" Subject: RE: KR> USE OF PEEL- PLY Message-ID: The pros - Minimal work to get a nice finish (Definitely worth it!!) The cons - Expensive (If you use genuine peel-ply), does not take well to complex shapes. When using the peel ply I pulled it taught and secured it to get a close fit on the fiber glass. It tends to form bumps if you pull it taught and just leave it like that. Very important: work out all the air bubbles from the fiber glass that may form before you put the peel ply on, they are more difficult to remove afterward (But luckily not impossible). After applying the peel ply it is relatively easy to remove excess resin by squeegee. At areas where tight corners are it will tend to lift so try keep it flat. Hope this helps. PS - No prayers are required. Danny Livingstone Sasolburg South Africa www.geogities.com/livd0124/index.html > -----Original Message----- > From: David Hartz [SMTP:dewrencher@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 7:13 AM > To: Mark Langford; krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> USE OF PEEL- PLY > > HEY FOLKS > CAN I GET SOME FEEDBACK ON WORKING WITH PEEL-PLY.I > PLAN TO START F-G WORK ON MY STUB-WINGS AND FUSELAGE > HERE SOON.PRO'S & CONS WOULD BE HELPFULLLLL!!!!A > PRAYER WOULD NOT HURT EITHER. > DAVE > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > > or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > > some other system! > > > > > ===== > DAVID HARTZ,WILLITS,CALIF. DEWRENCHER@PRODIGY.NET > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ********************************************************************** This e-mail and its attachments, if any, are intended only for use by the named addressee(s) and may contain information that is legally privileged, confidential, or both. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating, distributing or copying this email and its attachments, if any. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copies of this e-mail, its attachments, and any printed copies of any of them. ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 05:40:36 -0500 To: "David Hartz" , "Mark Langford" , From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Re: KR> USE OF PEEL- PLY Message-ID: <000c01c17be6$f26b7e30$592b5d0c@scana.com> On you fuselage and wing stubs, it should work very well for you, especially on the wing stubs. It just does not conform to compound curves. I am going to experiment with cutting it in smaller strips for the compound curves to see how that works. I may make more mess than cure. Use it wherever you can. Put it on and make sure that it is wet out, pull it off as soon as it is no longer tacky. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hartz" To: "Mark Langford" ; Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:13 AM Subject: KR> USE OF PEEL- PLY > HEY FOLKS > CAN I GET SOME FEEDBACK ON WORKING WITH PEEL-PLY.I > PLAN TO START F-G WORK ON MY STUB-WINGS AND FUSELAGE > HERE SOON.PRO'S & CONS WOULD BE HELPFULLLLL!!!!A > PRAYER WOULD NOT HURT EITHER. > DAVE > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > > or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > > some other system! > > > > > ===== > DAVID HARTZ,WILLITS,CALIF. DEWRENCHER@PRODIGY.NET > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 22:06:15 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> New owner & member Message-ID: <002701c17bea$87cff0c0$1296dccb@Matheson> > Mark > I have picked a KR2 unfinished project today.( have not got it home yet, and > can not wait to start building) > It has 2.5 Lit Vw fuel injection, (if I can find a aftermarket injection > computer in Australia) > I have read all your comments on your web page. > The fuse and tail are built, Mod canopy and turtle deck > I would like to move the engine forward up to 6 to 8 inches to help with > stability. > I have been told to change where the engine mounts to the mount, but would > it be better to cut the mount near the firewall and extend the mount ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Langford > To: > Sent: 03 December 2001 15:12 > Subject: Re: KR> hoaxes > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 06:51:22 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> New owner & member Message-ID: <002f01c17bf9$36d3d510$5f0ca58c@mlangford> Phillip Matheson wrote: > > I would like to move the engine forward up to 6 to 8 inches to help with > > stability. I sincerely doubt that you really need to move the engine 6 to 8 inches. If this is a type 4 engine, it's already heavy, and may be just fine where it is. If it needs to move an inch or so, add aluminum spacers between mount and engine. Although you could weight it now to get a rough idea on the CG, you need to get the plane almost finished (all except the cowling) before you start worrying about where the CG is. You'll be fine if you use the forward end of RR's CG range recommendation. Just don't use the aft 2" of it. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 09:50:32 -0700 To: David R. Christensen From: Ross Youngblood CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Lavond Loynd virus Message-Id: <20011203164421.QPOA15422.femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx239334-a> Dave, If you were using Netscape mail, then you are probably OK. Netscape just made a request to start the Media player and then the media player barfed. If you were running Microsoft Outlook, you might have installed what is called a "trojan horse" virus. I don't recall what the Lavond virus attachment looked like, as I just deleted it... however, if you do a search at the Symantec or Norton anti virus websites on the string "Lavond Loynd" you should get some hits which will tell you how bad this virus is and how to remove it. I got a really bad trojan horse virus (not from KR-net), and it took me about a day to remove it. It basicly gave hackers the rights to use my PC for anything they wanted, and also sent a message to Internet chat groups when the machine booted saying "Hey an infected machine is online, and you can get to it at XXX address". This was the "sub seven" virus and there are websites for it. -- Regards Ross 12/1/2001 9:43:06 PM, "David R. Christensen" wrote: Ross Youngblood rossy65@home.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 22:54:50 +0200 To: KR MAILING LIST From: Eric Evezard Subject: ENOUGH !!! Message-id: <000901c17c3c$e23b3ea0$2ace07c4@user> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C17C4D.838D8320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Netters, Kobus de Wet,I know damned well that viruses attatch to mailing = lists.Enough said.Dont lets contaminate this wonderful KR newsletter = with such trivia !!!Lets hear some KR news from you.!! Best Regards, Eric Evezard ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C17C4D.838D8320-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************