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krnet Digest 20 Dec 2001 17:35:20 -0000 Issue 344

Topics (messages 8151 through 8167):

Re: rules of thumbs for S glass?
	8151 by: mike

S-glass and referances
	8152 by: Glasco
	8153 by: flykr2s.execpc.com

Re: Oil leaks
	8154 by: GARYKR2.cs.com
	8162 by: Daniel Heath

Rev-Flow
	8155 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout
	8156 by: David R. Christensen

Website update
	8157 by: David Mullins

Re: Rev-Flow/ slippy KR2
	8158 by: Phillip Matheson

Posa
	8159 by: Sean Clay
	8160 by: Timothy Bellville
	8161 by: Daniel Heath
	8163 by: Ed Janssen
	8164 by: Jerry Mahurin
	8165 by: mike
	8166 by: Jerry Mahurin

Re: KR-1 test flights.
	8167 by: idrawtobuild

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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:48:20 -0500
To: "The Pond Family" <pond27@rogers.com>,
	"krnet" <krnet@mailinglists.org>
From: "mike" <mike@wolftreeinc.com>
Subject: Re: KR> rules of thumbs for S glass?
Message-ID: <000701c188a4$95b70c20$6400a8c0@wolftreeinc.com>

While we are on the subject of glass, could anyone suggest a book or tape on
common practice on composites? I have fiberglass experience from work but
everything is polyester resin based and weight is not an issue. We almost
always use the "mat" chopped up stuff, so I am at a loss on working with
cloth.
----- Original Message -----
From: The Pond Family <pond27@rogers.com>
To: krnet <krnet@mailinglists.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:48 AM
Subject: KR> rules of thumbs for S glass?

> Hi All
> Is there any rules of thumb for using S glass? How does one decide on
> the number of layer or the weight of the cloth chosen? This is a general
> question and yes i have the plans.
> Darren
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:15:24 -0800
To: krnet@mailinglists.org
From: Glasco <Glasco@ridgenet.net>
Subject: S-glass and referances
Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011219121524.008b41e0@ridgenet.net>

Greetings,

I expected several answers to these questions already but since there are
none I will jump in.

<snip>  While we are on the subject of glass, could anyone suggest a book
or  tape on
common practice on composites? <snip>

	There is information in both the Wicks and Aircraft Spruce catalogs and
there are many web sites with information.  If you want a video there is
Rutan's video (available from wicksaircraft online catalog -
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/showPage.phtml?pagenum=088.  For books
consider Rutan Aircraft Factory's book & practice kit available at wicks -
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/showPage.phtml?pagenum=82, and Ron Wanttaja
has pretty good detail in Chapter six of his Kitplane Construction
available from http://www.mazon.com (search in books for wanttaja).  

<snip> Is there any rules of thumb for using S glass? <snip>

	S-glass is stiffer, stronger, and more heat resistant.  If I were to use
S-glass I would go with Aircraft Spruce part # 4533-60 for the bid.  It is
the same weight and weave as the 7533 bid recommended for KR's.  (also
costs about 2.5 times as much as the e-glass)

<snip>  How does one decide on the number of layer or the weight of the
cloth chosen? This is a general question and yes i have the plans.  <snip>

	Unless you have good reason for a change; follow the plans.  Remember the
parts are structurally balanced, if you beef up one part without analyzing
the effect on the whole you are likely to overload another adjacent part
thereby reducing the safety margin of the whole.

	That said there are a number of aircraft in progress or flying the have
used carbon fiber in place of some or all of the 5.85 oz e-glass which of
course replaced the dynel used in the original design.  The e-glass is
rated at 250# by 250#.  The plans call for one layer on the wings behind
the spars and two layers in front of the spars overlapping on the leading
edge to provide six inches of four layers.  You could start with a
requirement to match what the plan provides; 250x250 behind the spar,
500x500 in front of the spar, and 1000x1000 on the leading edge.

	Of course, if you glass both the inner and outer surface of the wing foam
(as Mark Langford did - see http://home.HiWAAY.net/~langford/) then you are
going to make the wing  much stiffer, stronger and heavier then the
original even tho he used the plans specified 5.85 e-glass.

Brad Glasco

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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:22:21 -0600 (CST)
To: Glasco <Glasco@ridgenet.net>
From: flykr2s@execpc.com
Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org
Subject: Re: KR> S-glass and referances
Message-Id: <200112192022.OAA25757@nm2.nwbl.wi.voyager.net>

There is also a video called "Fiberglass 101" sold by EAA. The authors
name has escaped me right now. I have the tape and it is very
informative. Call EAA and they will be glad to sell you one.
Mark Jones
flykr2s@execpc.com

>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I expected several answers to these questions already but since
there are
> none I will jump in.
>
>
> <snip>  While we are on the subject of glass, could anyone suggest a
book
> or  tape on
> common practice on composites? <snip>
>
> 	There is information in both the Wicks and Aircraft Spruce catalogs
and
> there are many web sites with information.  If you want a video
there is
> Rutan's video (available from wicksaircraft online catalog -
> http://www.wicksaircraft.com/showPage.phtml?pagenum=088.  For books
> consider Rutan Aircraft Factory's book & practice kit available at
wicks -
> http://www.wicksaircraft.com/showPage.phtml?pagenum=82, and Ron
Wanttaja
> has pretty good detail in Chapter six of his Kitplane Construction
> available from http://www.mazon.com (search in books for wanttaja).
>
>
>
> <snip> Is there any rules of thumb for using S glass? <snip>
>
>
> 	S-glass is stiffer, stronger, and more heat resistant.  If I were
to use
> S-glass I would go with Aircraft Spruce part # 4533-60 for the bid.
It is
> the same weight and weave as the 7533 bid recommended for KR's.
(also
> costs about 2.5 times as much as the e-glass)
>
>
>
> <snip>  How does one decide on the number of layer or the weight of
the
> cloth chosen? This is a general question and yes i have the plans.
<snip>
>
>
> 	Unless you have good reason for a change; follow the plans.
Remember the
> parts are structurally balanced, if you beef up one part without
analyzing
> the effect on the whole you are likely to overload another adjacent
part
> thereby reducing the safety margin of the whole.
>
> 	That said there are a number of aircraft in progress or flying the
have
> used carbon fiber in place of some or all of the 5.85 oz e-glass
which of
> course replaced the dynel used in the original design.  The e-glass
is
> rated at 250# by 250#.  The plans call for one layer on the wings
behind
> the spars and two layers in front of the spars overlapping on the
leading
> edge to provide six inches of four layers.  You could start with a
> requirement to match what the plan provides; 250x250 behind the
spar,
> 500x500 in front of the spar, and 1000x1000 on the leading edge.
>
> 	Of course, if you glass both the inner and outer surface of the
wing foam
> (as Mark Langford did - see http://home.HiWAAY.net/~langford/) then
you are
> going to make the wing  much stiffer, stronger and heavier then the
> original even tho he used the plans specified 5.85 e-glass.
>
> Brad Glasco
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:09:54 EST
To: tonysoldano@prodigy.net, krnet@mailinglists.org, klw1953@juno.com
From: GARYKR2@cs.com
Subject: Re: KR> Oil leaks
Message-ID: <192.6e45.29529462@cs.com>

In a message dated 12/16/01 8:22:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
tonysoldano@prodigy.net writes:

<< on vw push rod tubes it is very important to make sure the welds on the
 tubes are facing up. >>

  One question. If the tubes are welded, how can they leak? Mine don't.
                      Gary Hinkle (A/P)      Middletown, Pa.
                                   garykr2@cs.com

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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:22:48 -0500
To: <GARYKR2@cs.com>,
	<tonysoldano@prodigy.net>,
	<krnet@mailinglists.org>,
	<klw1953@juno.com>
From: "Daniel Heath" <DanRH@att.net>
Subject: Re: KR> Oil leaks
Message-ID: <002f01c18948$a85c33b0$642c5d0c@scana.com>

Well, isn't it sort of like always put bolts in with the head up?

Daniel R. Heath

WWW.EAA242.ORG

See our KR2 at:

www.JerryMahurin.com

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From: <GARYKR2@cs.com>
To: <tonysoldano@prodigy.net>; <krnet@mailinglists.org>; <klw1953@juno.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Oil leaks

> In a message dated 12/16/01 8:22:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> tonysoldano@prodigy.net writes:
>
> << on vw push rod tubes it is very important to make sure the welds on the
>  tubes are facing up. >>
>
>   One question. If the tubes are welded, how can they leak? Mine don't.
>                       Gary Hinkle (A/P)      Middletown, Pa.
>                                    garykr2@cs.com
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:18:49 -0500
To: krnet@mailinglists.org
From: Kenneth L Wiltrout <klw1953@juno.com>
Subject: Rev-Flow
Message-ID: <20011219.211850.-209271.0.klw1953@juno.com>

Just wondering how many KR guys use trhe Rev Flow. I have trouble keeping
the idle set due to the actuater arm slipping on the throttle shaft, then
I lose my idle setting. When I pull back to idle that's when the arm
slips as the idle adjustment screw makes contact with the stop. I made 2
dead stick landings due to this. Anybody got a fix?
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:40:44 -0700
To: "krnet mailing lists" <krnet@mailinglists.org>
From: "David R. Christensen" <davec@favorites.com>
Subject: Fw: KR> Rev-Flow
Message-ID: <001001c18908$1b818020$3ce16441@davec>

I had the same problem.  I reinstalled the set screw with locktite and
tightened it down.  This works on mine.  My problem was not being able to
idle back enough due to the slippage.  I had to shut the engine down with
the tail up which contributed to a ground loop when I lowered the tail.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth L Wiltrout <klw1953@juno.com>
To: krnet@mailinglists.org <krnet@mailinglists.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:23 PM
Subject: KR> Rev-Flow

>Just wondering how many KR guys use trhe Rev Flow. I have trouble keeping
>the idle set due to the actuater arm slipping on the throttle shaft, then
>I lose my idle setting. When I pull back to idle that's when the arm
>slips as the idle adjustment screw makes contact with the stop. I made 2
>dead stick landings due to this. Anybody got a fix?
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:07:20 -0500
To: krnet <krnet@mailinglists.org>
From: David Mullins <n323xl@mediaone.net>
Subject: Website update
Message-ID: <3C2163F8.BAC39AEA@mediaone.net>

OK Netters,

Here is the next update to my web pages.
I have mostly been working on the aluminum
fuel tanks and fuel lines. There are some
new pages on the controls too. I have run
some wiring and antenna coax. I will get to
some fiberglassing when I return from my
trip to Baltimore.

http://n323xl.iwarp.com/blupdate.htm

I am still working on getting the KRCam going.

I will be in Baltimore from thursday night to
the 26th. If any builders want to get together
during that time and talk KR's, the local number
is 410-242-3039.

Welcome back ED!

Happy Holidays to all,

Dave Mullins
Nashua, New Hampshire
http://n323xl.iwarp.com

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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:29:28 +1100
To: "David R. Christensen" <davec@favorites.com>,
   "krnet mailing lists" <krnet@mailinglists.org>
From: "Phillip Matheson" <matheson@dodo.com.au>
Subject: Re: KR> Rev-Flow/ slippy KR2
Message-ID: <001301c18917$4ea9f9a0$0100a8c0@barry>

This may sound DUM, but flaps are shown on the plan, why are they not fitted
to the KR2 when built?

I have just got my KR2, half finished, and now I think I'll fit flaps,
Any comments ?

Phillip Matheson
matheson@dodo.com.au

----- Original Message -----
From: "David R. Christensen" <davec@favorites.com>
To: "krnet mailing lists" <krnet@mailinglists.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:40 PM
Subject: Fw: KR> Rev-Flow

> I had the same problem.  I reinstalled the set screw with locktite and
> tightened it down.  This works on mine.  My problem was not being able to
> idle back enough due to the slippage.  I had to shut the engine down with
> the tail up which contributed to a ground loop when I lowered the tail.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth L Wiltrout <klw1953@juno.com>
> To: krnet@mailinglists.org <krnet@mailinglists.org>
> Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:23 PM
> Subject: KR> Rev-Flow
>
>
> >Just wondering how many KR guys use trhe Rev Flow. I have trouble keeping
> >the idle set due to the actuater arm slipping on the throttle shaft, then
> >I lose my idle setting. When I pull back to idle that's when the arm
> >slips as the idle adjustment screw makes contact with the stop. I made 2
> >dead stick landings due to this. Anybody got a fix?
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:08:29 -0800
To: krnet@mailinglists.org
From: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>
Subject: Posa
Message-ID: <F144hmvBHNHoOlVNKdV0000a8da@hotmail.com>

Who is the maker of the Posa carb? and where can I get information on tuning 
one? I will be at the airport with the new KR1 doing taxi test tomorrow but 
I wont take to the air unless 110% comfortable. Wish me good luck : )

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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 05:18:49 -0500
To: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>,
	<krnet@mailinglists.org>
From: "Timothy Bellville" <Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: KR> Posa
Message-ID: <001301c1893f$bba9d8e0$d25f570c@default>

Hi Sean,
In my opinion,if you want to tune it, your best chance is to melt it down in
to a harmonica.(sorry)
I had a super carb on my 1600cc and never felt confident enough to leave the
ground with it.
I read and watch and listened to everything and everyone I could on it.with
no satisfactory results.
I have been running a Zenith model "A" up-draft carb for two years now, and
I have had no problems with it.
Sorry
Tim
Sonerai I
N2206X
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>
To: <krnet@mailinglists.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:08 AM
Subject: KR> Posa

>
> Who is the maker of the Posa carb? and where can I get information on
tuning
> one? I will be at the airport with the new KR1 doing taxi test tomorrow
but
> I wont take to the air unless 110% comfortable. Wish me good luck : )
>
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:15:44 -0500
To: "Timothy Bellville" <Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>,
	"Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>,
	<krnet@mailinglists.org>
From: "Daniel Heath" <DanRH@att.net>
Subject: Re: KR> Posa
Message-ID: <000a01c18947$ac2e18b0$642c5d0c@scana.com>

The best way to tune a Posa is to spend a lot of money and get an Ellison.

Daniel R. Heath

WWW.EAA242.ORG

See our KR2 at:

www.JerryMahurin.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Timothy Bellville" <Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>; <krnet@mailinglists.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Posa

> Hi Sean,
> In my opinion,if you want to tune it, your best chance is to melt it down
in
> to a harmonica.(sorry)
> I had a super carb on my 1600cc and never felt confident enough to leave
the
> ground with it.
> I read and watch and listened to everything and everyone I could on
it.with
> no satisfactory results.
> I have been running a Zenith model "A" up-draft carb for two years now,
and
> I have had no problems with it.
> Sorry
> Tim
> Sonerai I
> N2206X
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>
> To: <krnet@mailinglists.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:08 AM
> Subject: KR> Posa
>
>
> >
> > Who is the maker of the Posa carb? and where can I get information on
> tuning
> > one? I will be at the airport with the new KR1 doing taxi test tomorrow
> but
> > I wont take to the air unless 110% comfortable. Wish me good luck : )
> >
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:46:03 -0600
To: "Timothy Bellville" <Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>,
	"Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>,
	<krnet@mailinglists.org>
From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen)
Subject: Re: KR> Posa
Message-ID: <005701c18954$48f5a1c0$0200a8c0@dad>

Sean,

If the Posa seems to be running your engine well at this point, check to
make sure that the carb has been modified, if need be, for locking the
needle so it doesn't turn.  Many guys have sucessfully flown with it - and
still do, but I would seriously consider using something else - such as the
Zenith updraft, as Tim mentions.   You'll have less headaches.  I used this
same carb on my KR-1 (1700cc) and never had a problem with it.  Of course,
there are other good carbs out there.  It's kind of a personal thing and you
need to be comfortable with your particular setup before you go flying.
Have you contacted Steve Bennett at Great Plains for advice?

Ed Janssen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Timothy Bellville" <Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>; <krnet@mailinglists.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:18 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Posa

> Hi Sean,
> In my opinion,if you want to tune it, your best chance is to melt it down
in
> to a harmonica.(sorry)
> I had a super carb on my 1600cc and never felt confident enough to leave
the
> ground with it.
> I read and watch and listened to everything and everyone I could on
it.with
> no satisfactory results.
> I have been running a Zenith model "A" up-draft carb for two years now,
and
> I have had no problems with it.
> Sorry
> Tim
> Sonerai I
> N2206X
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>
> To: <krnet@mailinglists.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:08 AM
> Subject: KR> Posa
>
>
> >
> > Who is the maker of the Posa carb? and where can I get information on
> tuning
> > one? I will be at the airport with the new KR1 doing taxi test tomorrow
> but
> > I wont take to the air unless 110% comfortable. Wish me good luck : )
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:04:03 -0500
To: "Daniel Heath" <DanRH@att.net>,"Timothy Bellville" 
 <Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>,	"Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>,	
 <krnet@mailinglists.org>
From: "Jerry Mahurin" <jerrymahurin@charter.net>
Subject: Re: KR> Posa
Message-ID: <web-988479@dc-mxdb03.cluster1.charter.net>

Dan,

There are other perfectly good carbs besides THE
Ellison...!!  Some people (most) even have the intellingence
to use them....  Not everyone in the world has the bucks to
needlessly spend on a 'Cadilliac'; regardless of it's
merits.

Please don't take this note personally and maybe the Posa
users will not take your note personally....

Jerry Mahurin
Lugoff, SC

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:15:44 -0500
 "Daniel Heath" <DanRH@att.net> wrote:
> The best way to tune a Posa is to spend a lot of money
> and get an Ellison.
> 
> Daniel R. Heath
> 
> WWW.EAA242.ORG
> 
> See our KR2 at:
> 
> www.JerryMahurin.com
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Timothy Bellville" <Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>;
> <krnet@mailinglists.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:18 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> Posa
> 
> 
> > Hi Sean,
> > In my opinion,if you want to tune it, your best chance
> is to melt it down
> in
> > to a harmonica.(sorry)
> > I had a super carb on my 1600cc and never felt
> confident enough to leave
> the
> > ground with it.
> > I read and watch and listened to everything and
> everyone I could on
> it.with
> > no satisfactory results.
> > I have been running a Zenith model "A" up-draft carb
> for two years now,
> and
> > I have had no problems with it.
> > Sorry
> > Tim
> > Sonerai I
> > N2206X
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>
> > To: <krnet@mailinglists.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:08 AM
> > Subject: KR> Posa
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Who is the maker of the Posa carb? and where can I
> get information on
> > tuning
> > > one? I will be at the airport with the new KR1 doing
> taxi test tomorrow
> > but
> > > I wont take to the air unless 110% comfortable. Wish
> me good luck : )
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:12:14 -0500
To: "Jerry Mahurin" <jerrymahurin@charter.net>,
	"Daniel Heath" <DanRH@att.net>,
	"Timothy Bellville" <Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>,
	"Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>,
	<krnet@mailinglists.org>
From: "mike" <mike@wolftreeinc.com>
Subject: Re: KR> Posa
Message-ID: <000601c18971$1735dc00$6400a8c0@wolftreeinc.com>

I guess i have no business giving my opinion but, if i were looking for a
carb option i would consider some of the motorcyle carbs. I used to race and
some of those are very adjustable and a few even have a mix richener that
could be used to control mix. One of those could be picked up at a
motorcycle salvage place easily and they come in many different sizes and
brands.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Mahurin <jerrymahurin@charter.net>
To: Daniel Heath <DanRH@att.net>; Timothy Bellville
<Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>; Sean Clay <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>;
<krnet@mailinglists.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Posa

> Dan,
>
> There are other perfectly good carbs besides THE
> Ellison...!!  Some people (most) even have the intellingence
> to use them....  Not everyone in the world has the bucks to
> needlessly spend on a 'Cadilliac'; regardless of it's
> merits.
>
> Please don't take this note personally and maybe the Posa
> users will not take your note personally....
>
> Jerry Mahurin
> Lugoff, SC
>
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:15:44 -0500
>  "Daniel Heath" <DanRH@att.net> wrote:
> > The best way to tune a Posa is to spend a lot of money
> > and get an Ellison.
> >
> > Daniel R. Heath
> >
> > WWW.EAA242.ORG
> >
> > See our KR2 at:
> >
> > www.JerryMahurin.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Timothy Bellville" <Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>;
> > <krnet@mailinglists.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: KR> Posa
> >
> >
> > > Hi Sean,
> > > In my opinion,if you want to tune it, your best chance
> > is to melt it down
> > in
> > > to a harmonica.(sorry)
> > > I had a super carb on my 1600cc and never felt
> > confident enough to leave
> > the
> > > ground with it.
> > > I read and watch and listened to everything and
> > everyone I could on
> > it.with
> > > no satisfactory results.
> > > I have been running a Zenith model "A" up-draft carb
> > for two years now,
> > and
> > > I have had no problems with it.
> > > Sorry
> > > Tim
> > > Sonerai I
> > > N2206X
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <krnet@mailinglists.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:08 AM
> > > Subject: KR> Posa
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Who is the maker of the Posa carb? and where can I
> > get information on
> > > tuning
> > > > one? I will be at the airport with the new KR1 doing
> > taxi test tomorrow
> > > but
> > > > I wont take to the air unless 110% comfortable. Wish
> > me good luck : )
> > > >
> > > > _________________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:02:07 -0500
To: "mike" <mike@wolftreeinc.com>,"Jerry Mahurin" 
 <jerrymahurin@charter.net>,	"Daniel Heath" <DanRH@att.net>,	
 "Timothy Bellville" <Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>,	"Sean Clay" 
 <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>,	<krnet@mailinglists.org>
From: "Jerry Mahurin" <jerrymahurin@charter.net>
Subject: Re: KR> Posa
Message-ID: <web-999690@dc-mxdb06.cluster1.charter.net>

Mike,

Your opinion is a 'good' as anyone elses.....!!!

But, I would call this a GOOD suggestion.  I do not remember
the brand name; but there is a motorcycle carbureator that
is EXACTLY like the Revflow but has a float bowl.  The body
castings are identical...!

There are a lot of Tillotson and Mikuni carbs on airplanes
that were manufactured for motorcycles.  I have even seen
one plane with a Amal motorcycle carb....

Keep on giving your opinion...

Jerry Mahurin
Lugoff, SC

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:12:14 -0500
 "mike" <mike@wolftreeinc.com> wrote:
> I guess i have no business giving my opinion but, if i
> were looking for a
> carb option i would consider some of the motorcyle carbs.
> I used to race and
> some of those are very adjustable and a few even have a
> mix richener that
> could be used to control mix. One of those could be
> picked up at a
> motorcycle salvage place easily and they come in many
> different sizes and
> brands.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry Mahurin <jerrymahurin@charter.net>
> To: Daniel Heath <DanRH@att.net>; Timothy Bellville
> <Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>; Sean Clay
> <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>;
> <krnet@mailinglists.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> Posa
> 
> 
> > Dan,
> >
> > There are other perfectly good carbs besides THE
> > Ellison...!!  Some people (most) even have the
> intellingence
> > to use them....  Not everyone in the world has the
> bucks to
> > needlessly spend on a 'Cadilliac'; regardless of it's
> > merits.
> >
> > Please don't take this note personally and maybe the
> Posa
> > users will not take your note personally....
> >
> > Jerry Mahurin
> > Lugoff, SC
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:15:44 -0500
> >  "Daniel Heath" <DanRH@att.net> wrote:
> > > The best way to tune a Posa is to spend a lot of
> money
> > > and get an Ellison.
> > >
> > > Daniel R. Heath
> > >
> > > WWW.EAA242.ORG
> > >
> > > See our KR2 at:
> > >
> > > www.JerryMahurin.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Timothy Bellville" <Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net>
> > > To: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>;
> > > <krnet@mailinglists.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:18 AM
> > > Subject: Re: KR> Posa
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Sean,
> > > > In my opinion,if you want to tune it, your best
> chance
> > > is to melt it down
> > > in
> > > > to a harmonica.(sorry)
> > > > I had a super carb on my 1600cc and never felt
> > > confident enough to leave
> > > the
> > > > ground with it.
> > > > I read and watch and listened to everything and
> > > everyone I could on
> > > it.with
> > > > no satisfactory results.
> > > > I have been running a Zenith model "A" up-draft
> carb
> > > for two years now,
> > > and
> > > > I have had no problems with it.
> > > > Sorry
> > > > Tim
> > > > Sonerai I
> > > > N2206X
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <krnet@mailinglists.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:08 AM
> > > > Subject: KR> Posa
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Who is the maker of the Posa carb? and where can
> I
> > > get information on
> > > > tuning
> > > > > one? I will be at the airport with the new KR1
> doing
> > > taxi test tomorrow
> > > > but
> > > > > I wont take to the air unless 110% comfortable.
> Wish
> > > me good luck : )
> > > > >
> > > > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:
> > > http://messenger.msn.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:30:52 -0800
To: "Z-KRflyguys" <krnet@mailinglists.org>
From: "idrawtobuild" <idrawtobuild@ncinternet.net>
Subject: Re: KR-1 test flights.
Message-ID: <002301c1897c$34f97c00$6e13fea9@net>

Sean

What size is you engine?  Have you had TD time?  And don't do anything when
you have any winds over 5mph.  And especially no gussets.

Glad to see you are going to take your time.  As a matter of fact.  I'd just
do taxi and high speed taxi test for at least 3 weekends, both Saturday and
Sunday.  You'll need the break to make mental adjustments and possible
tweaks to the plane.  And if you can set it up to make a couple of runs a
day.  The last two days would be getting the tail up and just about ready to
lift off.  Of course you are going to need to monitor you RPM's closely and
only increase them by 50 RPM until you get the tail up without using to much
elevator .

The one thing that happened to me with my KR-1 is it's so light that it just
wants to jump into the air.  I just pulled the throtle back and made sure I
was still lined up on the runway.  As time pasted and more test.  I found
that the plane was perfectly balanced and I was luck that I only needed a
little adjustment on the elevator cables.  My stick was to far back.

I hope to have my KR-1 back into the air this summer.

Greg Martin

P. S. Good luck and be safe.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Clay" <clay1pilot@hotmail.com>
To: <krnet@mailinglists.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:08 AM
Subject: KR> Posa

>
> Who is the maker of the Posa carb? and where can I get information on
tuning
> one? I will be at the airport with the new KR1 doing taxi test tomorrow
but
> I wont take to the air unless 110% comfortable. Wish me good luck : )
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>
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