From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 2 Jan 2002 00:57:44 -0000 Issue 350 Date: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 4:58 PM krnet Digest 2 Jan 2002 00:57:44 -0000 Issue 350 Topics (messages 8264 through 8293): Re: Moving the rear Spar... 8264 by: Tim Brown 8282 by: virgnvs.juno.com moving rear spar 8265 by: nikki Re: Canopy design 8266 by: Jerry Mahurin kr in colorado 8267 by: nikki Re: MOUNTING A REVMASTER 8268 by: budz 8270 by: Daniel Heath Re: older KR newsletters 8269 by: Dave King warming your work area 8271 by: Oscar Zuniga 8272 by: Mark Jones 8273 by: Edwin Blocher 8279 by: larry flesner REVMASTER ANYONE ? 8274 by: Philip J. Visconti 8275 by: Mark Langford Re: rev.html 8276 by: norm-ruth New photos 8277 by: Tim Brown 8278 by: Mark Jones wife's car 8280 by: larry flesner Re: Ellison/ and graet fuel system info 8281 by: Phillip Matheson Angle of fixed landing gear to mount 8283 by: The Pond Family 1st run 8284 by: Sean Clay 8285 by: cartera 8286 by: Daniel Heath corvair power 8287 by: Gary W Haun Hapi 1835 Turbo Charged Fire wall forward set-up including cowling for sale 8288 by: Ron Eason VIRUS ALERT 8289 by: Frank Ross Removing the rear spar? 8290 by: bob.flyboybob.com New year and shop heat 8291 by: John & Elaine Roffey 8292 by: David McKelvey Update 8293 by: Mark Jones Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:18:53 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Tim Brown Subject: Re: KR> Moving the rear Spar... Message-ID: <20011231041853.62504.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> Yes it is rear spar only. I had just gone that far when I decided to switch to the new airfoil. It DID take hours to cut out that rear spar using a hacksaw blade and perseverance. Now I am at ribs cut and WAFs installed. Aileron metal pieces next followed by controls then stub covering. QUESTION: Why not use a pushrod instead of cables from stick to RR aileron metal moved ala Mark Jones? Tim --- Leo & Gail Dondlinger wrote: > I have been working a lot of hours lately... > I don't know who said it only took a few hours > to raise the rear spar, but > they must have meant moving the rear spar only. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:36:48 -0500 To: langford@hiwaay.net From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Re: Moving the rear Spar... Message-ID: <20011231.211119.-125649.4.virgnvs@juno.com> Started in 74. Will get spars in this year, Virg Maybe!? On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:04:28 -0600 "Mark Langford" writes: > > I don't know who said it only took a few hours to raise the rear > spar, but > > they must have meant moving the rear spar only. > > That was Dana, and "rear spar only" is exactly what he did, since > his stub > wings and fairings weren't done yet (see > http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/hangar/7085/ ) . Maybe > someday he'll > get off that DEAD BUTT and finish that plane! Oops, that might be > a double > edged sword, come to think of it. > > But I did my part today... I spent it bolting the same > piston/cylinder/rod/bearing/shim combination to all six cylinder > locations > on the Vair and measuring deck height each time, getting a variance > of .007" > between them.. Then I bolted them ALL to the SAME location and > measured > again.. The spread was only .002". Oh, this is gonna hurt my brain > now! > Obviously, I'm going for the record on time spent building ONE > airplane > engine. And I wonder why I'm not flying yet... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:00:53 -0800 To: From: "nikki" Subject: moving rear spar Message-ID: <001f01c191c0$8235d940$0101a8c0@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C1917D.733865E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had to cut mine loose after a "helper" leaned on the spar before cure = and moved it over about 3/4 of an inch out of center, I didnt catch it = until after it cured. I used a small semi-flexible" Jap" saw, usually = used for traditional joinery. It cuts flush on sides,( the cut is the = same width as the blade material, as it has no set to the teeth) and has = a thin blade. worked great . Jim Sporka P.s. Rod Kelso, are you still in = colorado?=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C1917D.733865E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 00:03:34 -0500 To: "Mark Langford" , From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> Canopy design Message-ID: Mark, et al, We are installing a removeable instrument panel to get around that working behind the instrument panel problem... It will just be a sheet of .060 AL attached to the main structure with a half a dozen shock mounts..... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 08:56:33 -0600 "Mark Langford" wrote: > Dan Heath wrote: > > > I agree, this looks like a very simple and efficient > canopy design. But, > > Mark, please tell us what you think. You really have > me curious now. > Which > > canopy design do you prefer? > > Whoooops. There's that can o' worms! I'm kinda like > you, there are a lot > of good ones. For a while I was enamored with the > sliding canopy that we > saw on Perry's "Area 51" plane (shown about half way down > at > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/k97gathr.html ), but > it's pretty ugly when > it's open, and I'm sure there are other compromises such > as adequate sealing > when closed. The forward hinging thing works just fine > too, but is a little > spindly in my case, and others with the four-bar > mechanism appear to be even > worse. John's "wide-track" design fixes that aspect > though. Forward hinging > also requires latches on both sides, which basically > means about four of > them. Side hinging per the plans has apparently worked > fine for years and > offers the benefit of only needing latches on one side > (assuming the hinge > is strong enough). I can't put my finger on exactly why > I never even > considered it, but I haven't. Maybe it's the poor-looking > implementations > I've seen that leave a straight hinge protruding out of > the curved top > longeron. Or maybe it's just that it came in the plans > with that > hemispherical canopy fastened to it! > > Right now I'm thinking that the gullwing is the ticket, > with pilot's side > opening and the other fixed. This offers the best > combination of safety > (built in, permanent rollbar and increased structural > integrity), > weathertightness (one short continuous gasket), and > aerodynamics (no joint > presented at the high pressure area at forward base). > Entry/egress is good > because you've got something to hang onto. A lot of guys > are flat-wrapping > the front windshield, but at high speeds it can bend > inwards an amazing > amount, so make sure it has a good curve to it or you'll > have to add extra > support down the middle to reinforce it. Both Troy ( > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/ktroyp.html ) and Bobby > Muse ( > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kbobbym.html ), and > several others have > some beautiful examples. > > Personally, I'd take a Dragonfly canopy and build the > rollbar and gullwing > door frame into it, then cut it all apart and have a > perfectly fitted > assembly. Dragonfly canopies are expensive, but it's > hard to beat the looks > or aerodynamics, and the front has a complex curve that's > very strong when > facing impinging high-speed air. The downside is that if > it's permanently > fastened, working on the backside of the panel would be > tough, so I'd still > make the whole thing easily detachable like mine is now > for access to all > systems behind the firewall, but there goes the structure > integrity thing. > > You'll have to take all of this with a grain of salt, > since I've only > climbed in and out of these things, not actually lived > with them for years > like some of you guys. Other comments or points of view > are certainly > welcome... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT > "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:56:27 -0800 To: From: "nikki" Subject: kr in colorado Message-ID: <001501c191c8$45c66080$0101a8c0@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C19185.36D9B600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there anyone else in Co. or surrounding area with a kr.?I was never = able to locate Steve Alderman. Rod, when and where are you getting your = kr1? also try Rifle co. for a J. Crook. you can phone me@970_704-0966 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C19185.36D9B600-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:07:25 -0700 To: Jerry Mahurin From: budz CC: Daniel Heath , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> MOUNTING A REVMASTER Message-ID: <3C30009D.F36C8476@home.com> Dan I have both a Happy 1835 and a Revmaster 2100; both have been on the plane , but the motor mount fits only the revmaster case. both engines have been bolted to both accessory cases without modification. The prop hubs are different though on these two. Hope this helps Bud Zeitz ...C-GJEY > > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 06:22:34 -0500 > "Daniel Heath" wrote: > > I am replying to all, because I want you to hold my feet > > to the fire if this > > is not correct. > > > > Phil, > > > > All VW engines of a given type, have engine mounting > > holes located in the > > same place. The case mounts to the engine, so all cases > > would have to be > > able to mount to all VW engines, no matter who modified > > them for AC use. > > The motor mount then mounts to the case, so it would seem > > to me that if you > > have a mount and case of the same variety, then you are > > good to go. > > > > Daniel R. Heath > > > > WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > > See our KR2 at: > > > > www.JerryMahurin.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 06:23:28 -0500 To: "budz" , "Jerry Mahurin" From: "Daniel Heath" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> MOUNTING A REVMASTER Message-ID: <001601c191ed$92ae2ed0$6b2c5d0c@scana.com> Yes, I would think that the case and the motor mount must match. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "budz" To: "Jerry Mahurin" Cc: "Daniel Heath" ; Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:07 AM Subject: Re: KR> MOUNTING A REVMASTER > Dan > I have both a Happy 1835 and a Revmaster 2100; both have been on the plane , > but the motor mount fits only the revmaster case. both engines have been > bolted to both accessory cases without modification. The prop hubs are > different though on these two. > Hope this helps > Bud Zeitz ...C-GJEY > > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 06:22:34 -0500 > > "Daniel Heath" wrote: > > > I am replying to all, because I want you to hold my feet > > > to the fire if this > > > is not correct. > > > > > > Phil, > > > > > > All VW engines of a given type, have engine mounting > > > holes located in the > > > same place. The case mounts to the engine, so all cases > > > would have to be > > > able to mount to all VW engines, no matter who modified > > > them for AC use. > > > The motor mount then mounts to the case, so it would seem > > > to me that if you > > > have a mount and case of the same variety, then you are > > > good to go. > > > > > > Daniel R. Heath > > > > > > WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > > > > See our KR2 at: > > > > > > www.JerryMahurin.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:25:53 -0800 To: John Bouyea From: Dave King Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: older KR newsletters Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20011230222543.02405210@24.71.223.43> --=====================_32731556==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed --Boundary_(ID_lHvphGX98a8cfRqwntO5jA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >Which file were you after? If you were trying to get the 1-87.pdf, it is >65meg... That was the one. >I've increased the paging file and rebooted the server. Please give it >another try. I managed to get to finally about 3am last night. I had to kill my firewall off which gave me just enough extra to finish it. It almost died off at 99% but hung in there and finished. Now just have to print the thing. Thanks. Dave --Boundary_(ID_lHvphGX98a8cfRqwntO5jA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >Which file were you after? If you were trying to get the 1-87.pdf, it is >65meg... That was the one. >I've increased the paging file and rebooted the server. Please give it >another try. I managed to get to finally about 3am last night. I had to kill my firewall off which gave me just enough extra to finish it. It almost died off at 99% but hung in there and finished. Now just have to print the thing. Thanks. Dave --Boundary_(ID_lHvphGX98a8cfRqwntO5jA)-- The only thing that helps me maintain my slender grip on reality is the friendship I share with my collection of singing potatoes \|/ ____ \|/ ~@-/ oO \-@~ /_( \__/ )_\ \__U_/ --=====================_32731556==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:31:13 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: warming your work area Message-ID: Daniel wrote: >Then Jerry decided to bring over his heat lamps and give them a try. >That AeroPoxy cures in 4 hours under the light. I love AeroPoxy. I love Aeropoxy too! I first tried a heat lamp, but it's too concentrated and won't work on a larger layup area. If I tried more than one, my breaker would trip... and I didn't want to rewire the garage so I went to a propane "orange torpedo" heater. Oh, and when using the heat lamp- you've gotta make sure not to point it at your cup of mixed resin, either- it will kick off and waste that batch. Don't ask me how I know. And Mark J. wrote; >I just got home and cranked up my 85,000 BTU heater to warm up my >garage >I still am wondering if I will be able to do any glassing though. >My heater will get the garage up to 70 degrees pretty quick but when >I turn it off, the temp falls fairly quick. A little boost of heater >about every thirty minutes keeps the temp up. Yep; this is what I do. It's a shame I can't automate the firing of the heater so I don't have to stop every little while and go hold down the igniter. What I have noticed is that if I don't pre-warm the shop for a good while, and keep it warm while doing a layup, I'll always end up with a heavier layup and it will be harder to wet out the glass I'm working with. There's just no way around it except to have a tight shop with a heater and keep it up to temperature all the time. In my case, that would translate to: "Dear, you can't open the garage or go anywhere today or tomorrow. Ride the bus." And now you know the meaning of the word "compromise". Just don't try to do a big layup when it's cold, because it will be heavier than it needs to be, guaranteed. You just can't get the layup to wet out as readily, and even with heavy squeegee'ing you end up with excess resin. For small work, it shouldn't matter. Now if we can get a contribution fund going, the KRNet can acquire a group workshop someplace where it's warm all the time, and go do our glass work there ;o) Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:23:02 -0600 From: Mark Jones CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> warming your work area Message-ID: <3C3082D6.327B90D@execpc.com> My wife has been asking me for the last month when am I going to arrange the garage so she can get her car in. I have used every excuse I know of and now it is simply down to " I'll get around to it tomorrow"!!! If enough tomorrow's come it will be spring and I will not have to worry about it. Both our cars sit outside while mt KR remains in a roomy garage with a smile on it's face. I do have to warm her car every morning and keep the ice and snow clear, a small price to pay for a clean garage. I hate all that snow and salt dripping in my garage, what a mess!!!. Mark Jones Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > There's just no way around it except to have a tight shop with a heater and > keep it up to temperature all the time. In my case, that would translate > to: "Dear, you can't open the garage or go anywhere today or tomorrow. Ride > the bus." And now you know the meaning of the word "compromise". Just > don't try to do a big layup when it's cold, because it will be heavier than > it needs to be, guaranteed. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:43:04 -0600 To: "Oscar Zuniga" , From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> warming your work area Message-ID: <000b01c1922a$fd0305c0$749131cc@cyou.com> Warm-sunny Florida got down to 30 this morning, my garage was 60, and when I turn on my heat (Heat/AC unit gor garage-shop only) it gets 70 in a few minutes. I am also hearing about my wifes car being outside but that is only because I am not unpacking boxes fast enough. She keeps catching me working on my plane. Once she get her car in I will still have room to completely assemble my -2S inside. Anyone that wants to come and glass their wings is welcome. Might even find a place for you to sleep. My rates are really outstanding. ED, PS: Might have a snow flurry here tomorrow night. Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: Oscar Zuniga To: Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: KR> warming your work area > Daniel wrote: > >Then Jerry decided to bring over his heat lamps and give them a try. > >That AeroPoxy cures in 4 hours under the light. I love AeroPoxy. > > I love Aeropoxy too! I first tried a heat lamp, but it's too concentrated > and won't work on a larger layup area. If I tried more than one, my breaker > would trip... and I didn't want to rewire the garage so I went to a propane > "orange torpedo" heater. Oh, and when using the heat lamp- you've gotta > make sure not to point it at your cup of mixed resin, either- it will kick > off and waste that batch. Don't ask me how I know. > > And Mark J. wrote; > >I just got home and cranked up my 85,000 BTU heater to warm up my > >garage > >I still am wondering if I will be able to do any glassing though. > >My heater will get the garage up to 70 degrees pretty quick but when > >I turn it off, the temp falls fairly quick. A little boost of heater > >about every thirty minutes keeps the temp up. > > Yep; this is what I do. It's a shame I can't automate the firing of the > heater so I don't have to stop every little while and go hold down the > igniter. What I have noticed is that if I don't pre-warm the shop for a > good while, and keep it warm while doing a layup, I'll always end up with a > heavier layup and it will be harder to wet out the glass I'm working with. > There's just no way around it except to have a tight shop with a heater and > keep it up to temperature all the time. In my case, that would translate > to: "Dear, you can't open the garage or go anywhere today or tomorrow. Ride > the bus." And now you know the meaning of the word "compromise". Just > don't try to do a big layup when it's cold, because it will be heavier than > it needs to be, guaranteed. You just can't get the layup to wet out as > readily, and even with heavy squeegee'ing you end up with excess resin. For > small work, it shouldn't matter. > > Now if we can get a contribution fund going, the KRNet can acquire a group > workshop someplace where it's warm all the time, and go do our glass work > there ;o) > > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, Oregon > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:03:07 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> warming your work area Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011231190307.00883700@pop3.norton.antivirus> It's a shame I can't automate the firing of the >heater so I don't have to stop every little while and go hold down the >igniter. What I have noticed is that if I don't pre-warm the shop for a >good while, and keep it warm while doing a layup, I'll always end up with a >heavier layup and it will be harder to wet out the glass I'm working with. >Oscar Zuniga >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++SNIP++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++ Southern Illinois has some pretty cold weather (20 degrees F. right now) and my heat system for a 24 X 24 foot garage works well. I have one of those "torpedo", 70,000 btu? heaters on an in-line thermostat. After I crank it up I light my 23,500 btu convection heater. I also have a 1500W protable electric heater with a fan I turn on. Once the big dude shuts down for the first time I unplug it. It scares the hell out of me every time it kicks on if I don't. Once warm , the convection heater and electric heater keeps it at temp and after a bit I even have to turn down 23,500 heater to low or I start to sweat. My walls are insulated and paneled but the ceiling is only about 60% covered and insulated and the 16 foot single door is not. I bought all these heaters at end-of-season sales so I probably only have about $250 total tied up in all of them. It works for me. I bought 2 Corvair 110hp engines today for $50 each to hold in reserve in case my 0-200 doesn't pan out. I'm too far along to switch horses right now but who knows. I had a 90hp Corvair on an 18 foot jon boat (airboat) years ago and it was so smooth I could sneak up on the fish. Wellllllll, o.k. but it was smooth and reliable and I ran it just the way it came out of a car at the junk yard. Happy New year everyone !! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:57:34 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Philip J. Visconti" Subject: REVMASTER ANYONE ? Message-ID: <20011231.155735.-168621.2.viscan@juno.com> I tried calling Revmaster this afternoon. All I got was an answering service. My information is 8 years old. Does anyone know how to contact Revmaster now ? Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:12:46 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> REVMASTER ANYONE ? Message-ID: <009f01c1923f$e5d1c750$5f0ca58c@mlangford> > I tried calling Revmaster this afternoon. All I got was an answering > service. My information is 8 years old. Does anyone know how to contact > Revmaster now ? From www.krnet.org (and www.switchboard.com), but it could be old: Revmaster Aviation, 7146 Sante Fe Avenue East, Hesperia, CA 92345 (760) 244-3074 The phone rang, but no answer (there are only maybe 10% of folks here at work today too). Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:54:40 -0600 To: "KRnet" From: "norm-ruth" Subject: Fw: rev.html Message-ID: <004e01c1924e$21d9a2a0$77cbd03f@d5b8c8> ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C1921B.D68FB8C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_004B_01C1921B.D68FB8C0" ------=_NextPart_001_004B_01C1921B.D68FB8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: norm-ruth=20 To: corvaircraft@usm.edu=20 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 4:21 PM Subject: rev.html Phil Visconti Revmaster- Norm Seel http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/rev.html=20 ------=_NextPart_001_004B_01C1921B.D68FB8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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 http= ://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/rev.html=20 ------=_NextPart_001_004B_01C1921B.D68FB8C0-- ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C1921B.D68FB8C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:30:02 -0800 (PST) To: Group KR NET From: Tim Brown Subject: New photos Message-ID: <20011231223002.11804.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> Dear net: Just added a few more photos of progress to my site. They include outer wing spars attached to plane and elevator flight controls. http://www.angelfire.com/super/timkr2s To Mark Jones: hope you don't mind me stealing your prototype with original design by Mark Langford. Thanks for your photos. Finally, does anyone have any idea why the photos come out with all the "shimmer dots" that are on my page? They scan clean and look fine when on floppy before loading to web page. As you can see, some come out OK. Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:06:46 -0600 From: Mark Jones CC: Group KR NET Subject: Re: KR> New photos Message-ID: <3C30EF86.A2DEF11C@execpc.com> Nice job Tim. looks like a winner to me. Mark Jones Tim Brown wrote: > Dear net: > > Just added a few more photos of progress to my > site. They include outer wing spars attached to > plane and elevator flight controls. > > http://www.angelfire.com/super/timkr2s > > To Mark Jones: hope you don't mind me stealing > your prototype with original design by Mark > Langford. Thanks for your photos. > > Finally, does anyone have any idea why the photos > come out with all the "shimmer dots" that are on > my page? They scan clean and look fine when on > floppy before loading to web page. As you can > see, some come out OK. > > Tim > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:03:20 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: wife's car Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011231190320.00886880@pop3.norton.antivirus> >My wife has been asking me for the last month when am I going to arrange the >garage so she can get her car in. I have used every excuse I know of and now it >is simply down to " I'll get around to it tomorrow"!!! If enough tomorrow's come >it will be spring and I will not have to worry about it. >Mark Jones ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++== When I started my project I convinced my wife I could build in half the garage and she could park in the other half. She hasn't gotten the car in the garage for five years now and still hasn't torched my KR !! Do I owe her or what??!! She also doesn't believe a word I say any more either. Right now my story is "Come spring .........." and her reply is "yea, yea, yea". Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 12:44:44 +1100 To: "KR Mailing Lists" From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Re: Ellison/ and graet fuel system info Message-ID: <006d01c19265$ea893fa0$0100a8c0@barry> To all Netters I found a really good site to copy some great info and problems that pop up in home builts. Great info on VW's EFS-2 Carby or almost any engine you can think of. Plus Carby Heat Fual Vapor Prevention Fuel filtering Primer Requirements and must read- Fuel System for Homebuilt A/Craft Plus many other topics. http://www.ellison-fluid-systems.com/ Then go to Aircraft Engine Applications Then down to VW ( or your engine) then down to Installation Requirements. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 21:14:37 -0800 To: krnet From: The Pond Family Subject: Angle of fixed landing gear to mount Message-ID: <3C3145BD.4A19598D@rogers.com> Hi Guys Happy New Year What is the angle of the composite or alum landing gear at. From the many picture I think it could be 60deg or at least 50deg? How wide a stance can i have on a KR2S (distance be between main wheel as a tail dragger) Darren Building and flying this year or at least that the goal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:34:20 -0800 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Sean Clay" Subject: 1st run Message-ID: Well i finally got out to the airport with the new KR1. It doesnt have a starter so after a little hand propping (about 5 spins) it fired and idled perfectly After letting it warm up I did a few taxi tests nothing fancy just getting comfortable everything checked out well just a few sputters on the engine but ill work those out tomorrow I think its cause its been sitting so long. What I did com to conclude is I think its easier to leave the wings on it and leave her at the airport. After getting it loaded and unloaded and wings on I only had 30 minutes of daylight but still had fun. Ill be back at it again tomorrow : ) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 01:02:45 -0700 To: Sean Clay From: cartera CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> 1st run Message-ID: <3C316D25.561DC9EA@cuug.ab.ca> Hi Sean the the KR Group, Not sure of your history on your engine but it may a good idea to go through a break-in period and I would suggest if your doing taxi tests do it with the wings on. Good Luck! Sean Clay wrote: > > Well i finally got out to the airport with the new KR1. It doesnt have a > starter so after a little hand propping (about 5 spins) it fired and idled > perfectly After letting it warm up I did a few taxi tests nothing fancy just > getting comfortable everything checked out well just a few sputters on the > engine but ill work those out tomorrow I think its cause its been sitting so > long. What I did com to conclude is I think its easier to leave the wings on > it and leave her at the airport. After getting it loaded and unloaded and > wings on I only had 30 minutes of daylight but still had fun. Ill be back at > it again tomorrow : ) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 08:03:19 -0500 To: "cartera" , "Sean Clay" From: "Daniel Heath" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> 1st run Message-ID: <000f01c192c4$aff5ee60$472c5d0c@scana.com> Everyone should heed that advise. Never taxi test with the wings off. You could loose your plane and maybe your life. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "cartera" To: "Sean Clay" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 3:02 AM Subject: Re: KR> 1st run > Hi Sean the the KR Group, > Not sure of your history on your engine but it may a good idea > to go through a break-in period and I would suggest if your doing > taxi tests do it with the wings on. Good Luck! > > Sean Clay wrote: > > > > Well i finally got out to the airport with the new KR1. It doesnt have a > > starter so after a little hand propping (about 5 spins) it fired and idled > > perfectly After letting it warm up I did a few taxi tests nothing fancy just > > getting comfortable everything checked out well just a few sputters on the > > engine but ill work those out tomorrow I think its cause its been sitting so > > long. What I did com to conclude is I think its easier to leave the wings on > > it and leave her at the airport. After getting it loaded and unloaded and > > wings on I only had 30 minutes of daylight but still had fun. Ill be back at > > it again tomorrow : ) > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > -- > Adrian VE6AFY > Calgary, Alberta > Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca > http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:16:44 -0500 To: From: "Gary W Haun" Subject: corvair power Message-ID: Where are you guys finding all these $50.00 Corvair engines? I'd buy 4 of them for that price! Gary W Haun KR1 #5985 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 12:54:19 -0800 To: From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Hapi 1835 Turbo Charged Fire wall forward set-up including cowling for sale Message-ID: <00ad01c19306$7d489480$7c611e41@Administration> ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C192C3.6D7C8680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a KR2 and a Hapi 1835 Turbo Charged Fire wall forward set-up = including cowling for sale. This set up includes engine mount, cowling = ,a dual ignition [ one magneto;aircraft plugs, one electronic fired from = flywheel; autoplugs], complete exhaust system and a premium [beautifully = finished "Almost Constant Speed" Prop. The engine has 0 time on it. I am = changing my requirements for a engine in favor of more H.P. and have = decided to sell my present engine setup. =20 Contact me at ron@jrl-engineering.com If you are interested. I can = furnish you photos of the engine also. ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C192C3.6D7C8680-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:56:47 -0800 (PST) To: krnet From: Frank Ross Subject: VIRUS ALERT Message-ID: <20020101185647.38540.qmail@web14007.mail.yahoo.com> Just got an e-mail that my Norton Virus scanner says is a VIRUS. From: Loretta Fanselow From: Subject: Removing the rear spar? Message-ID: <000501c192f9$30f6fed0$040c0b0a@cheryl> KR-netters, I'm trying to get up the courage to remove my rear spar and move it up 1.494" to fit the profile of the AS5046 airfoil. The details of the upgrade can be seen at http://flyboybob.com/wing_documentation.htm. I have already built my stub wings with the RAF-48 airfoil. Is there someone out there that can share the experience of removing the rear spar? I would like to save the spar and any help with technique would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Bob Lee _____________________________________ e-mail: mailto:bob@flyboybob.com web site: http://flyboybob.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:46:34 -0500 To: "KR Mailing Lists" From: "John & Elaine Roffey" Subject: New year and shop heat Message-ID: <000201c192fe$15fdfd40$d0a828d8@default> ------=_NextPart_000_0196_01C192D3.1B7FCE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Happy new year to all. I should feel guilty about leaving my KR shop here in Michigan heated = while we are at our condo in Scottsdale during the holidays but I am = heating it with a gas radiant heater that I was talked into when I = finished the interior of the shop. When I first considered a heater, forced air conventional was my choice = but this radiant unit works so well and is quite economical for the = space (1200 sqft X 10ft high) that I promote the unit when ever someone = mentions heating a garage or any workspace. It cost us about $1.25 a day to keep the shop at 60 deg. The unit is a 20ft long tube and reflector at 64000 BTUs output built by = Reverberay in Detroit. They make almost any size and output for any = application. Anyone who has natural gas supplied to their home might want to take a = look at this system for their shop, garage or workspace as it uses an = outside combustion air source and vents outside so the heat produced is = clean and non disturbing of the surroundings. They are popular in the hangars and body shops in the area. John Roffey plugging away at the landing gear jeroffey@tir.com ------=_NextPart_000_0196_01C192D3.1B7FCE40-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:32:15 -0600 To: "KR Mailing Lists" From: "David McKelvey" Subject: RE: KR> New year and shop heat Message-ID: something to keep in mind about shop heating, building a KR will create airborne sawdust, it can be explosive if it's concentrated enough. A good heater should be one that is not an ignition source, it's something to remember when looking. dave Grapevine Tx -----Original Message----- From: John & Elaine Roffey [mailto:jeroffey@tir.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 1:47 PM To: KR Mailing Lists Subject: KR> New year and shop heat Happy new year to all. I should feel guilty about leaving my KR shop here in Michigan heated while we are at our condo in Scottsdale during the holidays but I am heating it with a gas radiant heater that I was talked into when I finished the interior of the shop. When I first considered a heater, forced air conventional was my choice but this radiant unit works so well and is quite economical for the space (1200 sqft X 10ft high) that I promote the unit when ever someone mentions heating a garage or any workspace. It cost us about $1.25 a day to keep the shop at 60 deg. The unit is a 20ft long tube and reflector at 64000 BTUs output built by Reverberay in Detroit. They make almost any size and output for any application. Anyone who has natural gas supplied to their home might want to take a look at this system for their shop, garage or workspace as it uses an outside combustion air source and vents outside so the heat produced is clean and non disturbing of the surroundings. They are popular in the hangars and body shops in the area. John Roffey plugging away at the landing gear jeroffey@tir.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 18:58:04 -0600 To: KR-Net From: Mark Jones Subject: Update Message-ID: <3C325B1C.24BE2FA4@execpc.com> For the last four days I have been building my turtle deck. Made templates, blocked up the polyurethane foam, got out the sureform tool and got my rough shape and then sanded, sanded, sanded , sanded and even sanded some more. It is very close to being ready to glass and for the last couple of hours I have just sat there and looked at her. She is really starting to look like an airplane and that excites me and makes me want to get more and more done. Man do I want to fly this thing!!! -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************